Coming Out as Trans: When HR Takes That Decision Away feat. Leo Yockey

Coming Out as Trans: When HR Takes That Decision Away feat. Leo Yockey

Allyship is a Verb

In this week’s episode, Leo Yockey (he/him) shares how his first tech job denied him the opportunity to control his narrative. Learn what surprised him about the experience and hear how it shaped the man he is today. We also discuss the "I'm not gay hug." Are you a fan of Tan France from Queer Eye? Leo talks about how reading Tan's memoir was the inverse of his experience, though it helped him find a man to model himself after.

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💻 Sources and resources from this episode:

  • Leo’s Instagram post on being shirtless
  • Leo has since taken down his blog post on his tech experience


Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*

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