The Hustle

The Hustle

Jon Lamoreaux

Every artist has a story. Whether big or small, they‘ve all seen the ups and downs and worked hard to maintain careers in music. We chat with some of the most interesting legacy artists in pop music and go in depth on their careers, how they feel about them, what it‘s like being a ”rock star” and also hear their best stories. If you‘re a music junkie you will love these long form conversations with beloved figures from your life.

Bonus - The NewlyPod Game

Bonus - The NewlyPod Game

Host Pod Eubanks (aka Eric Miller) hosts three couples (Brad Page and Sarah Linnen, Brian Linnen and Alex Alt, and Andy Schaal and Jon Lamoreaux) as they answer questions about each other for prizes and bragging rights. We had a blast!

Feb 21, • 1:07:49

Episode 510 - Nigel Dick

Episode 510 - Nigel Dick

Director Nigel Dick is behind some of the most iconic videos (and images) in rock history. Whether it's Britney Spears, Guns n Roses, Oasis, Tears for Fears, Cher, Def Leppard, or hundreds of others, his visuals are what shapes our impressions of these artists. In this incredibly entertaining conversation, we dive into all the best stories from his nearly 45 years of directing including his time making Hollywood features, how videos are made from the top down, working with temperamental artists,

Feb 18, • 2:21:58

Episode 509 - Ed Kuepper of the Saints/Solo

Episode 509 - Ed Kuepper of the Saints/Solo

The Saints were a very important band in the history of Australian rock. Their mixture of melodic but greasy garage rock with a punk spirit was unlike anything else in the 70s. It produced the song they're still best known for, "(I'm) Stranded", one of the greatest punk anthems ever. That debut album of the same name from 1977 was recently given the deluxe treatment - 4 albums of remastered versions, b-sides, live shows, and more. Guitarist Ed Kuepper joins us to discuss his own, and the band's

Feb 14, • 1:23:10

Episode 508 - Charles Fisher

Episode 508 - Charles Fisher

Australian producer Charles Fisher's resume is all over the place. Two of his earliest producing jobs were with Australian punk legends Radio Birdman followed by Air Supply! That kind of diversity continued for decades working with everyone from Olivia Newton-John to Divinyls to Jimmy Barnes to Hoodoo Gurus to Deep Blue Something (as well as more Australian artists like Moving Pictures and Ol' 55). In the 90s he hit the jackpot when he did Savage Garden's debut album that went on to sell over 15

Feb 11, • 1:35:47

Episode 507 - Don Gehman

Episode 507 - Don Gehman

Thanks mostly to his magical work with John Mellencamp, Don Gehman was one of the biggest producers of the 80s. He was by John's side from the Cougar days through his whole peak period ending with The Lonesome Jubilee. Along the way he also produced REM's best album, Life's Rich Pageant, Bruce Hornsby's A Night on the Town, and many more, but the success started to wane. Then, he took on the job of producing this new band with a funny name called Hootie and the Blowfish and we know how that ende

Jan 31, • 1:41:09

Episode 506 - Robin Millar

Episode 506 - Robin Millar

Robin Millar doesn't let anything hold him back. The man is blind, and yet he became one of the most successful producers in the UK in the 80s. His biggest claim to fame is shepherding a young Sade to two world-beating albums (her first two). Working together to find her unique sound made him the go-to guy for "sophistopop" and brought him a ton of success. He did the first few Everything But the Girl albums, the Fine Young Cannibals' debut, the first Colin Hay album and even scratched his rock

Jan 22, • 1:36:02

Bonus - Chef Rory O'Connell

Bonus - Chef Rory O'Connell

Irish chef Rory O'Connell has become a True North for Jon. His cooking shows have become appointment viewing in the Lamoreaux house. Funny enough, it isn't about the food. It's his calming demeanor and relaxing spirit that makes you feel everything will be ok. In this unexpected conversation, we get into his cooking school in Ireland, how he got on television, his favorite foods, his passion for the planet, and much more. It may not be music, but this one means a lot! Enjoy.

Jan 17, • 44:42

Episode 505 - Mark Plati

Episode 505 - Mark Plati

When David Bowie wanted to update his sound in the 90s to the drum-n-bass that was popular on the streets, he picked producer/musician Mark Plati to get him there. Mark had come up under the mentorship of the great Arthur Baker and was venturing out on his own. He thinks it was producing Babylon Zoo's "Spaceman" that sealed the deal with Bowie. Mark stuck around for a decade producing albums like Earthling, Hours, and Reality. In addition there's work with the Cure, Duncan Sheik, Prince and many

Jan 15, • 1:45:51

Episode 504 - Niko Bolas

Episode 504 - Niko Bolas

The way producer Niko Bolas tells it, he's never worked a day in his life. He went into a studio about 45 years ago and just never came out. Along the way he's worked with many of the greats like Toto, Kiss, Steve Perry, Keith Richards, Linda Ronstradt, the Jacksons and tons more. One of his strongest bonds has been with Neil Young who he partnered with in the 80s and has never left. They continue to work together on Neil's exhaustive remastering project of his entire archive. "Neeks" tells us a

Jan 9, • 1:45:38

Episode 503 - Rob Birch of Stereo MC's

Episode 503 - Rob Birch of Stereo MC's

Stereo MC's are coming back to the states this month for the first time in 24 years. It's a short trip - three shows on the east coast in three nights - but it's a start. Frontman Rob Birch joins us this week to discuss the band's history. They broke big with "Connected" off their third album (that song still sounds just as fresh and groovy today), but they took 9 years to issue a follow up and momentum stalled. They may not be prolific, but the quality has always been there. We also get into th

Jan 1, • 1:06:46

Episode 502 - Dony Wynn on Robert Palmer

Episode 502 - Dony Wynn on Robert Palmer

By the late 70s, drummer Dony Wynn thought his music career might be over. Nothing was really happening and he wasn't holding down gigs. Then the great Robert Palmer heard him and everything changed. Dony joined the fray around the Secrets album in 1979 and stuck around for the next 15 years or so. Dony joins us this week to tell us what it's like working for Robert during his peak (and post peak) period, why they had that magic and his times working with Robert Plant, Steve Winwood, Wang Chung,

Dec 26, 2024 • 1:35:04

Deep Dive - Dave Gregory on XTC's Skylarking (1986)

Deep Dive - Dave Gregory on XTC's Skylarking (1986)

This is epic. XTC guitarist Dave Gregory returns to the podcast to give us all the scoop on the creation of XTC's 1986 masterpiece Skylarking. The album almost can't be listened to without an understanding of the behind the scenes stories - the animosity between Andy Partridge and producer Todd Rundgren chief among them. This essential album was recently given the Steven Wilson Dolby Atmos treatment enhancing it even more. Joining us for this conversation is our friend Brad Page of the I'm In Lo

Dec 20, 2024 • 2:01:15

Episode 501 - Fonzi Thornton

Episode 501 - Fonzi Thornton

Whether you know it or not, you've been listening to Fonzi Thornton for almost 50 years. As teenagers he and Luther Vandross formed a lifelong friendship and devoting their lives to music pays off for both - Luther becomes a giant among giants and Fonzi becomes one of the most sought after backup singers ever. Starting in Listen My Brother with Luther and friends Carlos Alomar and Robin Clark turns into a stint singing with Chic and then a lifelong partnership with Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry. Al

Dec 18, 2024 • 1:17:13

Book Club - Gary Graff editor of 501 Essential Albums of the 90s

Book Club - Gary Graff editor of 501 Essential Albums of the 90s

Who doesn't love a good list! Music nerds especially will spend hours debating one topic or another. Author Gary Graff returns to the show to discuss his new book - 501 Essential Albums of the 90s. Gary discusses the process for compiling the book, the writers involved, covering various genres and, most importantly, what was and wasn't included! Be sure to tell us what you would have made your list! www.patreon.com/c/thehustlepod

Dec 16, 2024 • 55:21

Episode 500 - Ken Stringfellow

Episode 500 - Ken Stringfellow

WARNING: EXTREMELY SENSITIVE CONTENT Ken Stringfellow was a founding member of the Posies, who enjoyed a long career as one of the best power pop bands of the 90s and beyond. He also held down recurring gigs with REM, Big Star, Giant Sand and many others as well as a solo career. In 2021 this was all upended when three women accused him of sexual assault. Since then almost all of his musical partners have distanced themselves from him and he's had to (almost) start over from scratch. This year h

Dec 11, 2024 • 1:41:05

Episode 499 - Steven McDonald of Redd Kross and Director Andrew Reich

Episode 499 - Steven McDonald of Redd Kross and Director Andrew Reich

Like it or not, this is the year of Redd Kross! This underappreciated power pop band is coming at you with an assault of good stuff in 2024. They have an incredible new self-titled album, a memoir called Now You're One of Us, and a fantastic new documentary called Born Innocent: The Redd Kross Story. Jeff and Steven McDonald started out as pre-teens in the hardcore scene in Southern California, but matured into one of the great, if unsung, bands of the 80s and 90s with albums like 1990's Third E

Dec 4, 2024 • 1:18:26

Episode 498 - Peter Godwin of Metro/Solo

Episode 498 - Peter Godwin of Metro/Solo

This week is synth pioneer Peter Godwin! In the 70s he was a part of the very arty and European band Metro who are best known for being the originators of the song "Criminal World" that was covered by Bowie for the Let's Dance album. Peter went solo and recorded the worldwide hit "Images of Heaven" that still lives on today as well as an album and some EPs, but the rest of his career has been sort of mysterious. Recently, Cherry Red released a 2-disc set of this fruitful period called The Polydo

Nov 28, 2024 • 1:21:06

Episode 497 - PJ Moore of the Blue Nile

Episode 497 - PJ Moore of the Blue Nile

The Blue Nile would never be accused of being overly prolific. In 20 years of activity, they only managed four albums, two of which, 1984's A Walk Across the Rooftops and 1989's Hats, are absolute masterpieces. Ask Taylor Swift if you don't believe me. The hallmarks of their unique sound is part Paul Buchanen's soulful voice and part PJ Moore's wholly unique synth work. In 2023 PJ Moore and Co. finally released his first solo album, When a Good Day Comes, that is just what you would want from so

Nov 20, 2024 • 1:24:06

Episode 496 - Dr. Fink of Prince and the Revolution

Episode 496 - Dr. Fink of Prince and the Revolution

We all miss Prince. It's a hole that will never be filled. Imagine what it would have been like to be a part of the Revolution during his peak 80s period. He can play every instrument better than his band members, but he's reliant on them to put on incredible concerts and keep his musical instincts in check. It's not an accident that he made his best music when he had them as collaborators  "Dr." Matt Fink was at Prince's side playing keyboards for over a decade. Who can forget the cool guy in s

Nov 13, 2024 • 1:23:09

Book Club - Graeme Thomson author or Under the Ivy: The Life and Music of Kate Bush

Book Club - Graeme Thomson author or Under the Ivy: The Life and Music of Kate Bush

Author Graeme Thomson returns this week to discuss the updated release of his 2012 book, Under the Ivy: The Life & Music of Kate Bush. He had no idea when he finished that book 12 years ago how Kate's profile would change in the next few years. From induction into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, to the rediscovery of "Running Up That Hill" by millions of new fans, to her Before the Dawn concert residency at a time you assumed she'd never perform again, it's as if her story was just beginning.

Nov 10, 2024 • 1:03:19

Book Club - Chris Charlesworth author of Just Backdated - Melody Maker: Seven Years in the Seventies

Book Club - Chris Charlesworth author of Just Backdated - Melody Maker: Seven Years in the Seventies

Music writer Chris Charlesworth joins us to discuss his new book, Just Backdated, which depicts his years writing for Melody Maker in the seventies. Every music lover would kill for a job like this and Chris was the lucky guy that had it. He befriends his favorite band (the Who), sleeps with groupies, parties with everyone, lives the high life in NYC, goes to concerts every night, and hangs out with all the rock stars of the decade. The book is so fun you won't believe it or put it down. Enjoy!

Nov 8, 2024 • 1:18:27

Episode 495 - Eric Martin of Mr. Big/Bebel Gilberto

Episode 495 - Eric Martin of Mr. Big/Bebel Gilberto

We've got a unique twofer for you this week. First up is Mr. Big frontman Eric Martin! Eric had been at it for a decade before Mr. Big happened. He fronted bands in the Bay Area and recorded a solo albums that were as poppy as it gets. Luckily, Mr. Big worked out and they just completed their "last" tour and released the live album, The Big Finish as a memento. They've been extra busy beecause they also released a new album earlier this year. He didn't have much time, but we get into his early d

Nov 6, 2024 • 1:21:45

Bonus - Carlos Alomar on Luther: Never Too Much

Bonus - Carlos Alomar on Luther: Never Too Much

The wonderful Carlos Alomar returns to discuss the new Luther Vandross documentary, Luther: Never Too Much. Carlos and his wife Robin Clark have been friends with Luther since high school and that friendship extends from their first group together, Listen My Brother, to them all being introduced to David Bowie for the Young Americans album and beyond. The film shows his launch as one of the greatest male r&b vocalists in history, his many talents as a writer and arranger, his battles with we

Nov 4, 2024 • 50:52

Episode 494 - Paul Clark and Trevor Tanner of The Bolshoi/The Bolshoi Brothers

Episode 494 - Paul Clark and Trevor Tanner of The Bolshoi/The Bolshoi Brothers

The Bolshoi flirted with Goth and synth pop in the late 80s, but what they ended up doing was releasing some great alternative rock songs. "A Way", "Lindy's Party" and "Sunday Morning" still hold up and tours with Peter Murphy and Sisters of Mercy should have propelled them further, but it didn't happen. Eventually the band splintered with lead singer Trevor Tanner moving to FLA and going solo and keyboardist Paul Clark doing his thing in Seattle. Those two have partnered up over the years as th

Oct 30, 2024 • 1:04:31

Book Club - Daniel Rachel author of Too Much Too Young: The 2 Tone Records Story

Book Club - Daniel Rachel author of Too Much Too Young: The 2 Tone Records Story

Ska Week concludes with author Daniel Rachel and our discussion on his fantastic new book, Too Much Too Young: The 2 Tone Records Story. This essential document tells the story of one of the most revolutionary record labels created to release some of the most revolutionary music ever made. Created by Jerry Dammers in the late 70s, 2 Tone was meant to be a safe place for interracial bands like the Specials and the Selecter to release the hottest ska music happening at the time. Eventually, the la

Oct 26, 2024 • 1:02:24

Episode 493 - Horace Panter of the Specials/General Public

Episode 493 - Horace Panter of the Specials/General Public

Bassist Horace Panter has been a valuable and reliable sideman for his entire career. He starts out as a founding member of the Specials, contributing mightily to the magic sound of that revolutionary band. After their demise, he joined forces with Dave and Roger to form General Public and rode that wave for a few years. Since then, he's been around for nearly every version of the Specials including the Neville Staple fronted version in the 90s and the Terry Hall reunion version of the 2000s. Th

Oct 23, 2024 • 1:16:34

Book Club - Marc Wasserman author of Sole Savation: A Gen X Love Letter to the English Beat

Book Club - Marc Wasserman author of Sole Savation: A Gen X Love Letter to the English Beat

We're kicking off "Ska Week" with a conversation with author Marc Wasserman about his new book, Sole Savation: A Gen X Love Letter to the English Beat. Marc writes beautifully about his tough childhood - specifically a broken family life and poor health - and how the band's last album, Special Beat Service, got him through all of it while also informing his lifelong love of music and ska. These are sentiments we share on the Hustle so Marc and Jon go deep on what the band means to them. It's the

Oct 20, 2024 • 55:22

Episode 492 - Boz Boorer

Episode 492 - Boz Boorer

We continue celebrating Morrissey's guitarists this week by hearing from longtime collaborator Boz Boorer! The love of rockabilly runs deep with this group and was central to Boz and Moz hitting it off. Boz stuck around for decades and co-wrote many of Moz's best songs including "The More You Ignore Me", "Maladjusted", and "Jack the Ripper". Right now he's about to release a solo album called Morrissey: Reimagined which is him and a bunch of friends doing wild covers of the classics we know. Boz

Oct 16, 2024 • 1:13:42

Deep Dive - Dean Pitchford on Footloose (1984)

Deep Dive - Dean Pitchford on Footloose (1984)

The wonderful Dean Pitchford returns to the podcast to deep dive the gargantuan soundtrack to 1984's Footloose. After winning the Oscar for "Fane: in 1981, Dean set about creating the entire world of Footloose - the songs, the screenplay, etc. It's gone on to sell millions and millions of copies and never left the zeitgeist. Dean goes track by track giving us all the stories behind the songs. He also catches us up on his induction in the Songwriters Hall of Fame (the same ceremony that included

Oct 14, 2024 • 1:59:11

Episode 491 - Alain Whyte

Episode 491 - Alain Whyte

For the next two weeks we're celebrating the guitarists that make Morrissey the artist he was. First up is the great Alain Whyte! Alain was brought on in 91 to simply mime behind Moz in a video, but once they realized how much they had in common musically, he stuck around for the next several years, not to mention he co-wrote many of his best songs like "Alma Matters", "Glamorous Glue" and "Billy Budd" to name only a few. Though he's been out of the Moz orbit for a while, his impact is still fel

Oct 9, 2024 • 1:49:54

Episode 490 - Vicki Peterson of the Bangles/Continental Drifters

Episode 490 - Vicki Peterson of the Bangles/Continental Drifters

Man, the Bangles had a ton of hits in the 80s. It came to an end by the end of the decade, but what a legacy. From there, guitarist and founding member Vicki Peterson took a break from the spotlight and got involved with a sort of mini supergroup called the Continental Drifters. Originally, the Drifters were made up of LA musicians looking for something to do, but their live shows were hot and their network eventually grew to about 10 members and included people like Vicki, Susan Cowsill, and Pe

Oct 1, 2024 • 1:13:54

Episode 489 - Omar Hakim

Episode 489 - Omar Hakim

Drummer Omar Hakim is one of those players you know it's him when you hear him. He's been the go-to guy for dozens of legends for over 40 years. Artists like Miles Davis, Sting, Bowie, Dire Straits, Kate Bush rely on him to make them the best they can be. These days, Omar is excited about a new project called Sonic Boom Squad which is almost a solo project. In a fit of creativity he wrote and recorded several funk rock songs along the lines of the Isley Brothers or Mother's Finest and is releasi

Sep 25, 2024 • 2:06:54

Episode 488 - Carmine Appice

Episode 488 - Carmine Appice

Carmine Appice is one of the few drum legends we have left. What's interesting to me about his career is that his name is usually bigger than the bands he's in whether it's Vanilla Fudge, Cactus, Beck, Bogart, Appice, King Kobra, Blue Murder or his side work with Rod Stewart and Ozzy. These days he's turning his attention to Cactus, who recently released a new album called Temple of Blues where they redo a bunch of the classic Cactus songs and invite their friends along. Buddies like Dee Snider,

Sep 17, 2024 • 1:15:51

Episode 487 - Randy Jackson of Zebra

Episode 487 - Randy Jackson of Zebra

Zebra were a fascinatingly interesting hard rock band in the early 80s that are hard to categorize. While they toured with Sammy Hagar, REO Speedwagon, Journey and the like, their style is what I call "ambitious rock" where the ideas are flowing, but not to the point of prog. They released three exceptional albums, but didn't quite reach the top and then hair metal came along and overwhelmed them. Leader Randy Jackson joins us this week to discuss how it felt on that tidal wave - working with Ja

Sep 10, 2024 • 1:24:26

Bonus - 80s Super Group Fantasy Draft with the Permanent Record Podcast

Bonus - 80s Super Group Fantasy Draft with the Permanent Record Podcast

Jon was invited on the Permanent Record podcast recently with friends Eric Miller and Heidi Waugaman-Page to do a fantasy-styled draft of an 80s super group. We each picked a singer, guitarist, bassist, drummer, keyboardist, producer and a special flex person and you can vote on whose band you like the best!  Go to this link and let us hear your picks!  https://permanentrecordpodcast.com/80s-supergroup-fantasy-draft?fbclid=IwY2xjawFFvc5leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHQFcYzczbwrr-8B9NwIorW3NevZNz-qp8yyU37oEhCT

Sep 4, 2024 • 1:47:43

Episode 486 - Donita Sparks of L7

Episode 486 - Donita Sparks of L7

L7 were pioneers. Yes, there were all female rock bands before, but how many rocked as hard as they did with as much authenticity? Those four girls let it all hang out and walked it like they talked it. Success had to find them, they weren't going to play any games to find it. They finally broke through with 'Pretend We're Dead" off their third album, but it was hard keeping it all together and the band began to fracture soon after. For the last several years, the original members have reformed

Sep 3, 2024 • 1:11:34

Bonus - John Scott Clough

Bonus - John Scott Clough

Actor John Scott Clough appeared in two of the great 80s movies - one underrated and one super cheesy. His big break came in the Sidney Poitier directed Fast Forward about a dance troupe from Ohio who move to the Big Apple to "make it". After appearances in other movies and TV shows of the era like Family Ties, Empty Nest and the Love Boat, he also had a juicy role in Gross Anatomy with Matthew Modine and Christine Lahti. He gives us juicy tidbits from all of this and more including eventually r

Sep 2, 2024 • 58:22

Episode 485 - Gary Newby of the Railway Children

Episode 485 - Gary Newby of the Railway Children

Britain's Railway Children were a band stuck between movements. Too late for the post-punk explosion of the early 80s and done just before Britpop conquered the world, they released a handful of albums and songs that deserved more attention. "Every Beat of the Heart" did crackthe UK top 40 and singles like "A Pleasure" and "Brighter" did well on the indie charts, but it wasn't enough and the band called it quits in the early 90s after three albums. Frontman Gary Newby joins us this week to expla

Aug 27, 2024 • 1:06:30

Episode 484 - Candi Staton

Episode 484 - Candi Staton

Candi Staton is arguably one of the best, and most underrated, soul singers in history. While Aretha and Gladys and Diana were getting most of the attention, Candi was consistently recording incredible music whether it's deep r&b in Muscle Shoals, disco smashes like "Young Hearts Run Free", or quality gospel music. She remains one of the finest interpreters of music ever and she joins us this week to discuss her storied career including starting out on the chitlin circuit, her approach to ma

Aug 20, 2024 • 1:03:09

Episode 483 - Danton Supple

Episode 483 - Danton Supple

Producer/Engineer/Mixer Danton Supple has been at the forefront of big music by big artists since he first broke into the business in the 80s. U2, Coldplay, Pet Shop Boys, Morrissey and more are prominently on his CV. In this conversation we cover all of those as well as Elbow, Doves, Starsailor (which included Phil Spector's last project), Spandau Ballet and his work with past guests Clive Langer, Steve Lillywhite, Trevor Horn, Julian Mendelsohn and tons more. His stories are gold and almost as

Aug 14, 2024 • 2:03:43

Episode 482 - Annie Golden of the Shirts

Episode 482 - Annie Golden of the Shirts

Annie Golden's career has hit on almost every creative endeavor there is. She starts out in the 70s fronting the punk/new wave band The Shirts who are making waves in the CBGB scene with Blondie, Television and the rest. The band released three good albums, but none of them really took off. Then, one fateful night, director Milos Foreman goes to their show and immediately decides to cast her in his new movie Hair. This kicks off her acting career (both on the big and small screens as well as Bro

Aug 7, 2024 • 1:15:05

Book Club - Gillian Gaar author of Springsteen @ 75

Book Club - Gillian Gaar author of Springsteen @ 75

This week we continue speaking with some of the authors of the wonderful @ series. Our guest is Gillian Gaar, author of Springsteen@75. Gillian discusses her love of Bruce and how her book contributes to the narrative of one of America's most beloved artists. We discuss many of her other projects as well like books she's written on Nirvana and Queen. AND we have a copy of this book to give away! Enjoy!  www.amazon.com/Bruce-Springsteen-at-Gillian-Gaar/dp/0760381100 www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Aug 5, 2024 • 36:36

Episode 481 - Mark Gardener of Ride/Ryan Policky of A Shoreline Dream

Episode 481 - Mark Gardener of Ride/Ryan Policky of A Shoreline Dream

This week's twofer is a fun one. We hear from a major British rock band and then we hear from a newer band heavily influenced by the first band! First up is Mark Gardener of Ride! They, along with bands like Jesus and Mary Chain and My Bloody Valentine, were the key figures in the Shoegaze movement of the late 80s. Ride's debut album, Nowhere, is one of the greatest examples of the genre. Eventually the guys changed their style and imploded as they went, but they've been back since 2017 and thei

Jul 31, 2024 • 2:11:08

Episode 480 - Matt Scannell of Vertical Horizon

Episode 480 - Matt Scannell of Vertical Horizon

Has it really been 25 years since "Everything You Want" took over the airwaves? The 90s are littered with one hit or album wonders, artists that broke out, but were forced to break down thanks to a chaotic music biz, but VH mastermind Matt Scannell has not only survived but thrived. He could have packed it in after the label buried their follow up album to the double platinum breakthrough, or he could have called it quits at any point while scratching to make it as an indie artist. But, instead,

Jul 24, 2024 • 1:01:35

Deep Dive - Peter Holsapple on the dB's Stands for Decibels (1981)

Deep Dive - Peter Holsapple on the dB's Stands for Decibels (1981)

Included in the bedrock of the American alternative rock sound created by bands like REM, the Feelies, the Bongos and the Replacements is the dB's. Their debut album, Stands for Decibels, is essential to showing what us Yanks were up to while New Wave and Post Punk were gestating largely in the UK. That seminal album was just re-released on vinyl for the first time last month and Peter Holsapple joined us to deep dive the whole experience like how he and former guest Chris Stamey split up the so

Jul 21, 2024 • 1:23:47

Episode 479 - Rick Buckler of The Jam

Episode 479 - Rick Buckler of The Jam

You can't tell the story of British rock and roll without acknowledging the impact of The Jam. Unfortunately, Paul Weller pretends that chapter never happened, which is sad and confusing. Drummer Rick Buckler recently published the book The Jam 1982 depicting the last year of the band's existence. They start off releasing The Gift with singles like "Town Called Malice" and "Precious" climbing the charts, but it ends with a call from Weller out of nowhere to pack it up. Rick tries to make sense o

Jul 16, 2024 • 1:21:31

Episode 478 - Graham Gouldman of 10cc/Wax/Solo

Episode 478 - Graham Gouldman of 10cc/Wax/Solo

Did America ever fully "get" 10cc? Their mix of perfect tunes with a biting sense of humor flew over the heads of many of us. Luckily, that didn't stop them from having a long and legendary career back in the UK. The only original member these days is the great Graham Gouldman, but he's taking the band on their first US tour in ages soon. He joins us this week to discuss his partnership with Andrew Gold to form Wax, his wonderful solo career (and new album, I Have Notes) working with other legen

Jul 10, 2024 • 1:01:31

Book Club - Andrea Swensson author of Prince and Purple Rain: 40 Years

Book Club - Andrea Swensson author of Prince and Purple Rain: 40 Years

To commemorate the 40th anniversary of the masterpiece that is Prince's Purple Rain, we welcome author Andrea Swensson to discuss her fabulous new book celebrating the achievement. Andrea knew Prince and had been to Paisley Park a few times, plus she's an acclaimed writer, podcast host, and expert on the music of Minneapolis, making her the perfect person for this book. We discuss his legacy, his artistry, his impact on Minnesota, and much more. Also, we have a copy of the book to give away! The

Jul 8, 2024 • 55:31

Episode 477 - Junior Marvin of The Wailers/Solo

Episode 477 - Junior Marvin of The Wailers/Solo

This week we welcome reggae royalty to the show with guitarist Junior Marvin! If you can believe it - on the same day in 1977, Junior was offered jobs playing with Stevie Wonder AND Bob Marley! Which would you choose? He decided to go with Bob and it changed the rest of his life. After Bob's death a few years later, Junior focused on session work and solo albums while also touring with the Wailers to keep the One Love spirit alive. He recently released a brand new solo album called Happy Family.

Jul 3, 2024 • 1:12:37

Deep Dive - Jim Goodwin and Tom Ferrier of The Call on Reconciled (1986)

Deep Dive - Jim Goodwin and Tom Ferrier of The Call on Reconciled (1986)

With the recent re-release of the breakthru Call album Reconciled on vinyl and remastered, we felt it was a good time to welcome back keyboardist Jim Goodwin and guitarist Tom Ferrier (for the first time) to go deep on the album that changed everything for the band. The album includes the powerful singles "Everywhere I Go" and "I Still Believe", which was made iconic by the "Sexy Sax Man" (and friend of the show) Tim Cappello in Lost Boys. We also discuss the spiritual lyrics by the late great f

Jul 2, 2024 • 1:16:55

Episode 476 - Susanne Freytag and Claudia Brücken of Propaganda

Episode 476 - Susanne Freytag and Claudia Brücken of Propaganda

In 1985 the German group Propaganda managed their one perfect album, A Secret Wish. Released on Trevor Horn's ZTT label (he was also the Executive Producer), this synth pop classic featured hits like "Duel" and "Dr. Mabuse" which haven't aged a day. Though it was an achievement, it created friction within the group (as well as financial and interpersonal issues), causing the frontwomen, Susanne and Claudia, to leave the band before the follow up was recorded. Other bands were created and solo ca

Jun 26, 2024 • 1:11:02

Episode 475 - Tom Bailey of Thompson Twins

Episode 475 - Tom Bailey of Thompson Twins

t took a few years, but Tom Bailey is finally reclaiming the wonderful legacy of the Thompson Twins. The excellent hit makers were everywhere in the 80s, but eventually Tom lost interest in pop music and moved on with then wife Alannah Currie to making dub and trance music under the names Babble and International Observer letting the Twins' flame die out. Thankfully, about 10 years ago he brushed off those old hits, put out a poppy solo album, and has been back in our lives since. He's now joini

Jun 19, 2024 • 1:11:49

Episode 474 - Jeff Babko

Episode 474 - Jeff Babko

Session keyboardist Jeff Babko has a career that even he can't believe. His day job is playing keys in Jimmy Kimmel's band every night. Then, his side hustle on the weekends is as the musical director for Steve Martin and Martin Short on their tour. Those alone are incredible, but he also releases solo albums and has done sessions and tours with a bunch of legends. In this chat we discuss Huey Lewis, James Taylor, the Doobie Brothers, Sheryl Crow, Neil Young, Joe Cocker, Alanis Morissette, Smoke

Jun 13, 2024 • 2:20:27

Episode 473 - Ian Hunter/John Butler of Diesel Park West

Episode 473 - Ian Hunter/John Butler of Diesel Park West

We have a very special twofer for you this week! We kick it off with the birthday boy himself, the great Ian Hunter! Ian turned 85 this week (!) and is still at it and as good as ever. He just released a new album called Defiance 2: Fiction (Defiance 1 came out last year) and both are star-studded affairs featuring Joe Elliott, Brian May, Slash, Todd Rundgren and tons more including the late great Taylor Hawkins and Jeff Beck. Ian and I discuss making music at this age, going glam with Bowie, hi

Jun 5, 2024 • 1:40:32

Episode 472 - Mark Bryan of Hootie & the Blowfish/Solo

Episode 472 - Mark Bryan of Hootie & the Blowfish/Solo

Have we come back around to Hootie & the Blowfish yet? They went from fun, good-time band, to hugely popular, to overexposed, to punching bag, back to fun, good-time band. Today, they've settled into a nice level of fame where the band successfully tours when they feel like it and the guys each do their own projects during the downtime. Guitarist Mark Bryan joins us this week to discuss it all, especially how it affected him and his family. We also get into a lot of his solo work, which is s

May 30, 2024 • 1:11:20

Episode 471 - Jim Peterik of the Ides of March/Survivor/Solo

Episode 471 - Jim Peterik of the Ides of March/Survivor/Solo

Jim Peterik has the power to create a whole band for every musical impulse he ever has. Survivor is mostly in the rear view, but his original band The Ides of March still get together to perform for special occasions. He has a country band called The Stormchasers. He has a smooth jazz band called Lifeforce. He has a rock band called Pride of Lions. And he has World Stage, which is him collaborating with his musical friends like Jason Scheff, Don Barnes, Kevin Cronin and many more. Each of these

May 21, 2024 • 1:10:41

Episode 470 - Jim Moginie of Midnight Oil

Episode 470 - Jim Moginie of Midnight Oil

Not only did the mighty Midnight Oil bless the world with their incredible music, they also educated us on the plight of Australian people and politics which ended up informing many of us and how we see the world. Guitarist and primary songwriter Jim Moginie recently released a memoir called The Silver River which tells the band's story, but, even more impressively, tells his personal journey as someone who was adopted at a young age and found his birth parents later in life. That story is reall

May 15, 2024 • 2:01:08

Book Club - Darren Paltrowitz author of DLR Book: How David Lee Roth Changed the World

Book Club - Darren Paltrowitz author of DLR Book: How David Lee Roth Changed the World

For this week we welcome author, podcast host and private investigator (!) Darren Paltrowitz to discuss his book DLR Book. Capturing the real David Lee Roth, while also separating the real guy from the mythology he's worked hard to create is no easy task, but Darren does his best. David Carruth joins co-hosts this episode as we dissect DLR's Hollywood ambitions, his solo efforts, his radio hosting gigs, and much much more. He's surely one of the greatest entertainers ever, and one of the most co

May 12, 2024 • 1:08:42

Bonus - "When Two Podcast Worlds Collide": Jon Lamoreaux from the Hustle

Bonus - "When Two Podcast Worlds Collide": Jon Lamoreaux from the Hustle

Jon was invited to hang with his good friends Haydn and Bee of the INXS : Access All Areas podcast recently to discuss our love of Australian music, the rich history, and, of course, our mutual love of INXS. Any fan of this band needs to know this great podcast is out there if they don't already. Every member has appeared on there, it's a wealth of valuable knowledge. Jon tells some stories you've heard before and some you haven't, but enjoy either way!  www.inxsaccessallareas.podbean.com www.pa

May 10, 2024 • 1:13:47

HAPPY 9TH BIRTHDAY TO US with Nick Laird-Clowes of the Dream Academy

HAPPY 9TH BIRTHDAY TO US with Nick Laird-Clowes of the Dream Academy

Can you believe another year has gone by? We can't! Who would have ever thought 9 years The Hustle would become what it has. As usual, we always celebrate this day with a very special guest and this year is no different. This week we welcome the wonderful Nick Laird-Clowes of the Dream Academy! The band snuck up on everyone in 1985 with the seminal and wholly unique "Life in a Northern Town". Those who were there will never forget it. They followed that up with two more equally excellent albums

May 7, 2024 • 1:29:48

Deep Dive - John Parr on Man With a Vision (1992)

Deep Dive - John Parr on Man With a Vision (1992)

For this Deep Dive we welcome back John Parr to discuss his underappreciated album from 1992, Man With a Vision. By this point in his career, John was all alone with no major label support and litigation making it hard to get heard. He self-produced this album and it's an excellent slab of peak AOR goodness, even though it's from the early 90s. John gives us the full story and I hope you'll all seek out this beauty for yourselves. Enjoy!  www.johnparr.net www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

May 4, 2024 • 1:06:00

Episode 468 - Michael Bradley of the Undertones

Episode 468 - Michael Bradley of the Undertones

The short but solid trajectory of the Undertones' career reflects the arc of popular British music during the same time. Starting off in Derry Ireland as punks with an ear for melodies in the late 70s and ending up about five years later exploring sophisti-pop is a map of what was in style in the UK. If the band wasn't so good at both genres you might accuse them of selling out, but, in truth, they're just excellent at making catchy songs. The band split up in the early 80s and lead singer Fearg

Apr 30, 2024 • 1:10:19

Episode 467 - Tom Lord-Alge

Episode 467 - Tom Lord-Alge

Grammy winning engineer/producer Tom Lord-Alge has been behind some major music the last 40 years. He starts out in NYC under the tutelage of his brother Chris and breaks big working on Steve Winwood's Back in the High Life album. Over the years he's engineered dozens of gigantic hits including albums by Blink-182, Pink, Weezer, Marilyn Manson and Korn. We don't talk about any of those though (to Tom's surprise). Instead we get into Simple Minds, Live, Manic Street Preachers, OMD, REO Speedwagon

Apr 24, 2024 • 2:26:58

Episode 466 - Neil Stubenhaus

Episode 466 - Neil Stubenhaus

Bassist Neil Stubenhaus was a key member of that pool of exceptional talent in LA in the 70s and 80s that were first calls to play on the great albums made during the era. Neil stood shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Nathan East, Lee Sklar and Pino Palladino (among many) to make good music even better. Included on his resume are people like Billy Joel, Lionel Richie, Al Jarreau, Anita Baker, Rod Stewart, Barbra Steisand, the Temptations and tons of others. In fact, we both had nothing else

Apr 17, 2024 • 3:27:22

Episode 465 - Mike Post

Episode 465 - Mike Post

Mike Post is probably the most successful composer of the last half century. He literally wrote the themes to hundreds of TV shows from the early 70s until now. In fact, there's a good chance that during the heyday, almost every person on earth heard his work at least once a week. That's astounding. You could argue that shows like NYPD Blue, Law & Order, Magnum P.I., Rockford Files, White Shadow, Hill Street Blues, L.A. Law and tons more wouldn't be what they are without him. He recently too

Apr 9, 2024 • 2:09:14

Episode 464 - Ken Caillat

Episode 464 - Ken Caillat

Imagine being one of the architects of one of the biggest albums in rock history. It's like winning the lottery. As we know from the Fleetwood Mac story, what was happening behind the scenes on Rumours was as juicy and tasty as the music they were making. Witness to all of it was the great Ken Caillat! He went on to co-produce with Richard Dashut Tusk and Mirage as well before parting ways and parlaying that success into starting several music businesses over the years. Then, his daughter Colbie

Apr 2, 2024 • 1:14:58

Deep Dive - Iain Baker on Jesus Jones's Doubt (1991)

Deep Dive - Iain Baker on Jesus Jones's Doubt (1991)

This week, Jesus Jones embarks on their first US tour in 30 years! It's short, just a few shows over a couple of weeks, but it's, hopefully, the beginning of restoring a relationship with the states that will grow in the near future. Since lead singer Mike Edwards was on the show a few years ago, we are joined this time by keyboardist (and band manager) Iain Baker to not only explain the circumstances of the tour, but deep dive their 1991 breakthru Doubt while he's at it. We learn what influence

Mar 27, 2024 • 1:19:02

Episode 463 - Dean Pitchford

Episode 463 - Dean Pitchford

This week we get to hear from acclaimed songwriter Dean Pitchford! After 45 years of near consistent success, Dean will finally be inducted in the Songwriters Hall of Fame this year, which is just another line on his impressive resume. He won an Oscar for writing "Fame" for Irene Cara and achieved the absolute peak with Footloose. He not only wrote the screenplay, but every song on the soundtrack and collected a couple Grammys in the process. He tried again a few years later with the movie Sing,

Mar 26, 2024 • 1:51:42

Episode 462 - Russ Titelman

Episode 462 - Russ Titelman

Our guest this week is multi-Grammy winning producer Russ Titelman. Russ has been deeply rooted in the music business since the 60s as a producer, an engineer, a songwriter, and even a session guitarist. His midas touch has benefitted legendary artists like Paul Simon, Chaka Khan, James Taylor, Cyndi Lauper, Brian Wilson, Rickie Lee Jones, and won Grammys for Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton. In this conversation we hit on all of that and more including how songs like "Higher Love", "Tears in Heav

Mar 20, 2024 • 2:08:54

Episode 461 - Peter Farnan of Boom Crash Opera/Solo

Episode 461 - Peter Farnan of Boom Crash Opera/Solo

In 1989 when Australian rock bands like Midnight Oil and INXS were screaming up the charts in the US, you'd think the easiest thing in the world would be to present one more and let them continue the streak. Such was not the story of Boom Crash Opera. Despite getting some airplay for "Onion Skin" off their second album, These Here Are Crazy Times, and despite having material just as strong as their peers, it didn't happen and BCO never got their just due (except back home where they remain a dra

Mar 14, 2024 • 2:03:47

Episode 460 - Zia McCabe of the Dandy Warhols

Episode 460 - Zia McCabe of the Dandy Warhols

The Dandy Warhols have been around for 30 years. That can't be right! In the 90s they seemed like hedonistic little hippies and now, they still are, but the rest of the world has caught up with them. On the 15th, the band releases ROCKMAKER, their first fully guitar-driven album in a while (maybe ever) and they embark on a US tour this week. Zia McCabe joins us to talk about the new album, how the band writes songs (fans know their albums are gloriously all over the place), what it's like having

Mar 6, 2024 • 1:19:11

Episode 459 - Nigel Bennett of the Members/the Vibrators

Episode 459 - Nigel Bennett of the Members/the Vibrators

These days, guitarist Nigel Bennett is as much an entrepreneur as he is a punk rocker. I'll explain. Nigel's career began in the 70s when he was hired to join The Members who were mixing punk, pop and reggae in unique ways. They're probably best remembered by their 1982 hit "Working Girl". The band didn't last long and Nigel bummed around until he was hired by the Vibrators in 1990, where he remains today. During the pandemic, the rest of the Vibrators called it quits, leaving Nigel to carry on

Feb 28, 2024 • 1:22:00

Book Club - Joel Selvin author of Drums & Demons: The Tragic Journey of Jim Gordon

Book Club - Joel Selvin author of Drums & Demons: The Tragic Journey of Jim Gordon

Author Joel Selvin returns to the show to discuss his new book on one of the greatest and most complicated drummers in rock history, Jim Gordon. The list of songs made better by Jim's talent is endless - "Good Vibrations", "Rikki Don't Lose That Number", "Wichita Lineman", "Apache" and hundreds of others. He was also the drummer in Derek and the Dominoes and co-wrote "Layla". Unfortunately, Jim was overwhelmed by demons from schizophrenia most of his life and murdered his mother in 1983 confinin

Feb 27, 2024 • 52:06

Deep Dive - Mike Scott on the Waterboys This Is The Sea (1985)

Deep Dive - Mike Scott on the Waterboys This Is The Sea (1985)

The amazing Mike Scott returns to the podcast to go deep on the Waterboys' 1985 masterpiece This is the Sea. This benchmark album has been released in a massive 6-disc deluxe edition that includes almost 100 tracks, many of which have never been heard before, and a hardback book all of which tells the story of the album's creation. Mike takes us track by track through the original album, the contributions from other band members and where his head was at back then. If any classic album deserves

Feb 24, 2024 • 1:31:35

Episode 458 - Josie Cotton

Episode 458 - Josie Cotton

Cult icon Josie Cotton joins us this week! Of course, her career exploded in the early 80s with the help of Valley Girl and the immortal "Johnny, Are You Queer?" but her time on major labels was short-lived. For almost 40 years she's built a career thriving as an indie artist and doing her own thing. Last year she released a strong new album called Day of the Gun which, like everything she does, is a complete artistic package from the music to the fashion to the videos and beyond. She  discusses

Feb 21, 2024 • 1:12:00

Episode 457 - Rich Travali

Episode 457 - Rich Travali

Rich Travali is one of the most successful guests we've ever featured on the show. He began his career in the 80s at the Hit Factory in New York working with legends like Patti Smith, Sting and Paul Simon, who he was especially close to during the recording of The Rhythm of the Saints. In the 90s he formed a bond with Puff Daddy which led to a couple decades of gigantic hits - 11 #1 singles and over 140 million in total record sales. We're talking generational hits like "Hot in Herre", "Big Popp

Feb 14, 2024 • 1:26:32

Episode 456 - Ian Lloyd of Stories/Solo

Episode 456 - Ian Lloyd of Stories/Solo

Ian Lloyd has been at this longer than many of us have been alive. He first took off fronting Stories in the early 70s for three albums. The second one, About Us, featured the surprising #1 smash "Brother Louie". From there he went solo and released some excellent (and sadly out of print) power pop albums including the wonderful Goosebumps from 1979. He also made a nice living singing backing vocals for Foreigner, Billy Joel and many others including several ads and jingles. He's still out there

Feb 8, 2024 • 1:25:29

Book Club - Jeff Apter author of Don't Dream It's Over: The Remarkable Life of Neil Finn

Book Club - Jeff Apter author of Don't Dream It's Over: The Remarkable Life of Neil Finn

For this Book Club we welcome noted Australian author Jeff Apter to discuss his new book on Neil Finn, Don't Dream It's Over. Jeff has been a successful music writer for decades, contributing to Rolling Stone as penning books on AC/DC, Keith Urban, and the Bee Gees. Nick and I nerd out on our love for Neil, what he's like, how the band and his family works (they're often similar), his relationship with his brother Tim and the late Paul Hester and much more. The book is essential for any Neil fan

Feb 5, 2024 • 1:17:59

Episode 455 - Jah Wobble of Public Image Ltd/Invaders of the Heart/Solo

Episode 455 - Jah Wobble of Public Image Ltd/Invaders of the Heart/Solo

This week we welcome one of the greatest musicians alive, bassist Jah Wobble! Jah first rose to prominence in PIL alongside John Lydon on their first two groundbreaking albums. After he left he struggled for a few years before picking it back up with the Invaders of the Heart and playing with almost everyone. In this conversation we discuss artists as diverse as Sinead O'Connor, Ginger Baker and Suggs. In 2023 alone he released several new projects, the main one being his new solo album, A Brief

Jan 30, 2024 • 1:30:20

Deep Dive - Bill Wadhams on Animotion's Raise (2017)

Deep Dive - Bill Wadhams on Animotion's Raise (2017)

Animotion's Bill Wadhams returns to the show to deep dive their excellent comeback album from 2017, Raise. I see this album as a perfect example of what legacy artists, especially ones from the 80s, are capable of doing in this day and age. It's an incredibly strong set of tunes that not enough people know about. Bill explains how the album came to be and the stories behind the songs. Please seek out this fantastic piece of pop.  www.animotion-obsession.com www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jan 29, 2024 • 1:10:50

Episode 454 - Saffron of Republica/Ian Pickering of Sneaker Pimps

Episode 454 - Saffron of Republica/Ian Pickering of Sneaker Pimps

We go deep on excellent 90s British alternative rock with this week's twofer. First up is the iconic Saffron of Republica! The band is best known for (and still make a nice living from) "Ready To Go", which is saying a lot for a band that only managed a couple albums. They have recently come back together to make some new music including their latest single "New York". Saffron discusses all of it, including her second life as a nurse. After that we talk with Sneaker Pimp lyricist Ian Pickering.

Jan 24, 2024 • 1:49:38

Episode 453 - Budgie of Siouxsie and the Banshees

Episode 453 - Budgie of Siouxsie and the Banshees

We're honored to welcome one of music's greatest living musicians, Budgie! In this sprawling conversation we cover all the bases - coming up in Liverpool with Big in Japan, joining The Slits for their revolutionary album Cut, and joining Siouxsie and the Banshees where he would stay until the bitter end in the mid-90s. He also married Siouxsie and did their side project The Creatures for many years as well. Last year he teamed up with podcasting partner (and fellow legend), former Cure drummer L

Jan 17, 2024 • 2:17:40

Episode 452 - Chris Kimsey

Episode 452 - Chris Kimsey

We're kicking off 2024 the way we often do by hearing from a legendary producer. This year we get to hear from the great Chris Kimsey! Chris was closely tied to the Stones for many years, producing albums like Some Girls, Undercover and Steel Wheels but his genius has impacted many other greats as well. In this conversation we cover artists big and small like Killing Joke, INXS, Duran Duran, Marillion, Led Zeppelin, Escape Club, Diesel Park West, Psychedelic Furs, Billy Squier, Bad Co., Curt Smi

Jan 10, 2024 • 2:08:58

Episode 451 - Don Barnes of 38 Special/Roger Earl of Foghat

Episode 451 - Don Barnes of 38 Special/Roger Earl of Foghat

It's a classic rock twofer this week! First up is Don Barnes of 38 Special. Next year the band will be celebrating 50 years and they're still as strong as ever. Their peak 80s period rivals anyone's with a bunch of hits that are still beloved. Don discusses the stories behind the songs, touring today, his lost solo album and much more. Then we get to hear from original Foghat drummer Roger Earl. Roger's the last man standing, but is also performing a bunch of shows every year. The band also has

Dec 27, 2023 • 1:44:12

Episode 450 - Danny Chavis of The Veldt

Episode 450 - Danny Chavis of The Veldt

The pioneering story of the Veldt is a one of one. Twin black brothers from North Carolina in the 80s embrace the alternative rock coming from the UK and record their debut album in 1989 with Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins producing! The album was shelved, but they did get a couple great albums out in the 90s (Afrodisiac is especially excellent) but it never really takes off mainly because labels don't know what to do with black guys making alternative rock. They've soldiered on over the yea

Dec 19, 2023 • 1:07:57

Promo Mode - Maia Sharp and Garrison Starr Discuss Their New Projects

Promo Mode - Maia Sharp and Garrison Starr Discuss Their New Projects

This week we welcome back two of our favorites - Maia Sharp and Garrison Starr. The girls (who are also friends) return to catch us up on what they're doing these days. Maia is producing Sarah & Shannon while Garrison has paired up again with Sean McConnell for their second release as My Sister, My Brother. They also get into the music industry's handling of lesbian artists, writing lyrics, and how they approach their career in the modern era. They're so great at what they do and we're big f

Dec 19, 2023 • 1:06:11

Episode 449 - Derek Forbes of Simple Minds

Episode 449 - Derek Forbes of Simple Minds

Isn't the race for best alternative rock bass player in history neck and neck between Derek Forbes and Peter Hook? Those two showed what making great music with a bass as practically the lead instrument could do. Anyone who has listened to those early Simple Minds albums knows that what makes them so special is Derek's incredible bass work. Unfortunately, he was sacked from the band in '84 and has never returned for any real length of time. Many believe the band hasn't been the same since then.

Dec 13, 2023 • 1:18:12

Book Club - Martin Popoff’s Kiss at 50

Book Club - Martin Popoff’s Kiss at 50

We welcome back for a rarefied air third time, the excellent author, Martin Popoff, to discuss his Kiss at 50 book. Kiss are a perfect band to discuss, and we enjoyed Martin's insights, and hope you do too! www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Dec 11, 2023 • 45:45

Episode 448 - Jez Williams of Doves

Episode 448 - Jez Williams of Doves

Manchester is known for all kinds of legendary bands emerging from the area. The Smiths, New Order, The Stone Roses, Oasis, Buzzcocks and tons more. The best of the 2000s has to be Doves. Beginning as the dance group Sub Sub, Doves went on to be one of the biggest and best bands the UK has brought the world, as five consistently great albums prove. They've been less busy the last decade or so (although 2020's Universal Want is a creative peak), as Jimi Goodwin works on his mental health, but the

Dec 6, 2023 • 1:10:47

Book Club - Kevin Armstrong author of Absolute Beginner: Memoirs of the World’s Best Least-Known Guitarist

Book Club - Kevin Armstrong author of Absolute Beginner: Memoirs of the World’s Best Least-Known Guitarist

This week we welcome back our friend Kevin Armstrong to discuss his new memoir, Absolute Beginner. This wonderful book details how his unique career took flight, from forming great bands that never go anywhere, to joining forces with David Bowie and performing with him at Live Aid, and rocking alongside Iggy Pop for a decade. There are also stops with Thomas Dolby and Propaganda as well as amazing McCartney and Eno stories. The book is a blast and we love Kevin around here so be sure to add this

Dec 4, 2023 • 1:08:36

Episode 447 - Greg Errico of Sly & the Family Stone

Episode 447 - Greg Errico of Sly & the Family Stone

The real story of Sly & the Family Stone needs to be told. Sly himself recently released a reportedly underwhelming memoir and there have been others over the years, but the true story of this revolutionary group is eroding too quickly. This week we welcome their legendary drummer (and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer) Greg Errico. Greg recounts just how special those early days were and how sad it was when it all ended. Greg has had tons of success elsewhere including with Santana, Weather Repor

Nov 29, 2023 • 1:27:33

Episode 446 - Les McCann/Garry Peterson of the Guess Who

Episode 446 - Les McCann/Garry Peterson of the Guess Who

This week we give thanks for another twofer with a couple of legends. First up is my brief chat with jazz icon Les McCann. This weekend Les is releasing a special box set for Record Store Day, Never a Dull Moment - Live From Coast to Coast 66-67. This gorgeous collection showcases his mastery of the piano in the Trio setting and is an incredible piece of history. We're SO lucky to get a few minutes of his time. Then we hear from original Guess Who drummer Garry Peterson. The band has been withou

Nov 22, 2023 • 1:28:11

Recap Q3

Recap Q3

Jon and Jan review our 3rd quarter episodes, gigs, life and more.

Nov 21, 2023 • 1:16:40

Episode 445 - Andrea Lewis and Matt Gray of the Darling Buds

Episode 445 - Andrea Lewis and Matt Gray of the Darling Buds

The Darling Buds were another one of those excellent British alternative bands of the late 80s/early 90s that was sadly short lived. Three strong albums in four years and then nothing for a long time. People listening to college radio or scouring records stores around that time would know them well. Thankfully, the band is back with an incredible box set, Killing For Love, Albums, Singles, Rarities, Unreleased 1987-2017, just released by Cherry Red Records (they're so good at this stuff). Andrea

Nov 15, 2023 • 1:08:43

Promo Mode - Robert LaRoche and John Douglas Discuss Their New Solo Albums

Promo Mode - Robert LaRoche and John Douglas Discuss Their New Solo Albums

Former guests Robert LaRoche of the Sighs and John Douglas of the Trashcan Sinatras return to discuss their brand new solo albums. Robert's new one Forevermore continues his perfect brand of "country-tinged power pop". And John's self-titled release shows his take on acoustic stripped-down versions of original songs as well as some Trashcan covers. They're both great at what they do and we like supporting artists we believe in. Enjoy! wwww.robertlarochemusic.com www.johndouglas.bandcamp.com/albu

Nov 9, 2023 • 56:15

Episode 444 - Andrew Roachford/Teddy Geiger

Episode 444 - Andrew Roachford/Teddy Geiger

We have another excellent twofer up this week with two decorated artists. First is Andrew Roachford! In the US, he's primarily remembered for his 1989 hit "Cuddly Toy" which still slaps today, but did you know he's an MBE back in England and one of their biggest selling artists? Over the years, whether fronting his band Roachford, or singing with Mike + the Mechanics, or doing his own solo work, he's gone from strength to strength. Next month he goes on a UK Tour celebrating his entire body of w

Nov 8, 2023 • 1:48:05

Episode 443 - Glenn Mercer of the Feelies/Andy McCluskey of OMD

Episode 443 - Glenn Mercer of the Feelies/Andy McCluskey of OMD

It's another great twofer for you this week! First is Glen Mercer of the Feelies. If there's an American version of post-punk, the Feelies are the best example. They released one of the greatest debuts ever, 1980's Crazy Rhythms, but have only recorded sporadically as a unit over 45 years. The band's been quiet since 2017, and original member Anton Fier died in 2022, but they have a new live album of Velvet Underground songs called Some Kinda Love out now. Then we hear from the ever-charming And

Nov 1, 2023 • 1:28:51

Episode 442 - Chan Kinchla of Blues Traveler/Dolphus Ramseur manager of the Avett Brothers

Episode 442 - Chan Kinchla of Blues Traveler/Dolphus Ramseur manager of the Avett Brothers

It's a Jam Band adjacent twofer this week! First up is Blues Traveler guitarist and founding member Chan Kinchla. BT just released an excellent covers album called Traveler's Soul that includes their versions of songs by Dee-Lite, Stevie Wonder, TLC and more. It's a great companion to their last album Traveler's Blues. Chan discusses the making of the album, picking the songs, their live shows and much more. He's just about the nicest guy there is! Then we do something different. We talk to Dolp

Oct 25, 2023 • 1:50:28

Episode 441 - Fergal Lawler of the Cranberries

Episode 441 - Fergal Lawler of the Cranberries

The Cranberries are no more, sadly. After the tragic death of Dolores O'Riordan, the rest of the band decided they would not carry on and to leave the legacy as is. Drummer Fergal Lawler joins us this week to discuss the newly released 3-disc Deluxe Edition of the band's 3rd album To The Faithful Departed. This expanded collection includes outtakes and b-sides as well as a killer live show. Fergal talks where they were when they made this album, his early life as a breakdancer (!), his new caree

Oct 17, 2023 • 58:55

Deep Dive - Genya Ravan on Urban Desires (1978)

Deep Dive - Genya Ravan on Urban Desires (1978)

Genya Ravan's two seminal, and self-produced, solo albums, 1978's Urban Desire and 1979's ..And I Mean It!, have recently been re-released in all their glam rock mixed with Phil Spector and his girl group's glory. Seriously, if you aren't familiar with these two classics, you'll wonder how you've made it this long without them. Genya returns to the podcast to deep dive Urban Desires with us, go track by track, and talk about the making of the album in her inimitable way. She's rock and roll to h

Oct 15, 2023 • 56:07

Episode 440 - Henry Lee Summer/Melanie

Episode 440 - Henry Lee Summer/Melanie

This week we catch up with a couple ol' timers. First up is 80s heartland rocker Henry Lee Summer. In the late 80s, Henry scored a couple big hits with "Wish I Had a Girl" and "Hey Baby" and cut a memorable image with his giant mullet and tight jeans. Times got tough for Henry there for a while - drug addiction, arrests, bankruptcy, divorce etc - but he's working his way back with a new album. Then we hear from Melanie of Woodstock and "Brand New Key" fame. Melanie's still at it and tours freque

Oct 11, 2023 • 1:56:59

Episode 439 - Graeham Goble of Little River Band

Episode 439 - Graeham Goble of Little River Band

Australia's Little River Band had an uncanny knack for nailing the beautiful Southern California soft rock sound of the 70s and early 80s despite being on the other side of the world. Guitarist Graeham Goble, along with core members Beeb Birtles and Glenn Shorrock were the primary songwriters behind many of the hits like "Reminiscing", "Lonesome Loser", "Cool Change" and dozens of others. Be warned: the current version of LRB that tours and releases albums does NOT contain any original members.

Oct 4, 2023 • 1:42:12

Book Club - Daniel Bukzpan author of Ozzy@75

Book Club - Daniel Bukzpan author of Ozzy@75

The wonderful "Artists at" series continues with our guest this week. Author Daniel Bukzpan recently released Ozzy@75 detailing the entire Prince of Darknesses career, Black Sabbath and first wives, to reality TV stardom and Ozzfest. The book is packed with goodies, including Daniel's dry humour that's fitting for a book about Ozzy. We have a copy to give away too! Enjoy!  www.amazon.com/Ozzy-75-Unofficial-Illustrated-History/dp/076037743X www.patreon.com/thehustlepod www.notoriousbuk.com

Oct 2, 2023 • 55:16

Episode 438 - Miki Berenyi of Lush

Episode 438 - Miki Berenyi of Lush

Last year, Lush lead singer Miki Berenyi released one of the greatest memoirs ever written by a rock star, of which there are many. She grew up in the UK with a Hungarian dad and a Japanese mom who soon divorced with her mom becoming an actress and moving to Hollywood, while her dad remained a freelance writer living in relative squalor. Miki found her tribe in the local music scene which led to her and Emma Anderson forming Lush. After three solid albums and the tragic suicide of drummer Chris

Sep 27, 2023 • 1:28:03

Episode 437 - Elliot Scheiner

Episode 437 - Elliot Scheiner

Multiple Grammy and Emmy winning producer, mixer and engineer Elliot Scheiner is behind some of the most pristine pop music ever made. Mentored by the great Phil Ramone, Elliot has produced luminaries like Van Morrison, Steely Dan, Billy Joel, Fleetwood Mac, Bruce Hornsby, Ashford and Simpson, the Eagles, George Benson, John Denver, Bobby McFerrin, Chaka Khan, Phish and tons more. Success like this has also translated into car audio where he's partnered with Acura and Panasonic to improve the st

Sep 20, 2023 • 1:48:29

Some Kind of Wonderful Soundtrack with Lick the Tins, Blue Room and the March Violets

Some Kind of Wonderful Soundtrack with Lick the Tins, Blue Room and the March Violets

It's been stated that Jon's favorite soundtrack ever is for the John Hughes film Some Kind of Wonderful from 1987. We've heard from artists featured on it, including the music supervisor Tarquin Gotch, but this time we're hearing from some of the lesser known bands. We start with Alison Marr of Lick the Tins whose cover of "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You" plays over the closing credits. Next up is David Joyner and Linda Hall of Blue Room who had "Cry Like This" in the film, but also had "

Sep 19, 2023 • 1:26:11

Episode 436 - Stephen ”Tin Tin” Duffy of the Lilac Time/Solo

Episode 436 - Stephen ”Tin Tin” Duffy of the Lilac Time/Solo

The multi-talented Stephen Duffy could have a fine rock doc made about all the different facets of his music career. Being a founding member of Duran Duran. Being a synthpop pioneer. The folk-pop beauty of the Lilac Time. His excellent 90s power pop period. His soundtrack work with John Hughes. His hits writien with Robbie Williams. See what I mean? For the last few years, the Lilac Time has been the main focus and they just released a fantastic new album called Dance Till All the Stars Come Dow

Sep 13, 2023 • 1:26:17

Episode 435 - Josh Caterer of Smoking Popes

Episode 435 - Josh Caterer of Smoking Popes

Among the many bands bringing excellent power pop/punk to the mainstream in the 90s, floating slightly above the rest were Chicago's Smoking Popes. Probably best known for their song "Need You Around" featured on the Clueless soundtrack, the band released some excellent albums there for a while that stood out thanks to the power of the riffs and the unmistakable croon of Josh Caterer. Once Josh converted to Christianity, he felt he couldn't continue in the same way, so the band went from top pri

Sep 6, 2023 • 1:17:42

Deep Dive - John Cafferty on The Beaver Brown Band’s Tough All Over (1985)

Deep Dive - John Cafferty on The Beaver Brown Band’s Tough All Over (1985)

They just don't make 'em like John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band anymore, but luckily they're still out there doing what they do best. John returns this week to discuss their 1985 album Tough All Over, which featured the hits "C-I-T-Y" and the title track. It was their first album not tied to Eddie and the Cruisers. Plus, they said it would never happen, but the band has released three new singles this year in preparation for their first album in about 35 years. Listen to a true "Voice of A

Sep 5, 2023 • 1:18:19

Episode 434 - Richard Patrick of Filter

Episode 434 - Richard Patrick of Filter

Perseverance could be Richard Patrick's mantra. Navigating his band Filter for 30 years, through the ups and downs, fads, cultural moments, and tastes, can't be easy, but he's done it by staying true to himself. They just released their 8th album, The Algorithm last week and it's one of their strongest yet. Richard gets intensely personal here discussing his appearance in the popular Hired Gun documentary, leaving Nine Inch Nails to go out on his own but eventually reuniting with Trent Reznor, t

Aug 30, 2023 • 1:36:58

Episode 433 - Maia Sharp

Episode 433 - Maia Sharp

Big life changes often make for the best art. That's certainly true with the wonderful singer/songwriter Maia Sharp. After 30 years in the indie trenches, a divorce and a move to Nashville has changed her perspective and made for some of the richest material of her career. Her latest album, Reckless Thoughts, details where she is now, amidst the changes and opening up to what comes next. We talk about writing songs for legends like Art Garfunkel, Cher, Paul Carrack and, Bonnie Raitt. We also dis

Aug 23, 2023 • 1:35:08

Episode 432 - Rat Scabies of The Damned/The Sinclairs

Episode 432 - Rat Scabies of The Damned/The Sinclairs

Is there a better punk rock name than Rat Scabies? When drummer Chris Millar picked that pseudonym and took up with the legendary Damned, he solidified his legacy in rock royalty. Along with his decades with the Damned, Rat has also always had several side projects going on. These days, one of his main focuses is The Sinclairs, his collaboration with guitarist Billy Shinbone. The sound is a beautiful blend of surf rock and hazy blues and psychedelia. They just released their second album, The Lo

Aug 16, 2023 • 1:11:25

Episode 431 - Dave Robinson Co-Founder of Stiff Records

Episode 431 - Dave Robinson Co-Founder of Stiff Records

Where would we be without Stiff Records? Founded by Dave Robinson and Jake Riviera in 1976, this is the label that introduced the world to artists like Elvis Costello, Madness, Ian Dury, Graham Parker, the Damned, the Pogues, Nick Lowe and many more. This week Dave Robinson showers us with numerous stories about these and many other artists, including his former roommates Van Morrison and Jimi Hendrix! He also tells us about the hot young band that brought him back to management, Hardwicke Circu

Aug 8, 2023 • 1:27:40

Episode 430 - Ricky Phillips of the Babys/Bad English/Styx

Episode 430 - Ricky Phillips of the Babys/Bad English/Styx

Bassist Ricky Phillips is a glue guy, which is saying something when you figure the bands he's been in and big personalities he's worked with. He joined the Babys near the end of their time and weathered the storms well enough to get the call to join Bad English with some of the same guys. Then, when that band began to implode he joined a couple more legends named Coverdale/Page. Finally, the call came to join Styx where he's been happily employed for about 20 years. He shares the story of this

Aug 1, 2023 • 1:09:50

Episode 429 - Sonya Madan and Glenn Johansson of Echobelly

Episode 429 - Sonya Madan and Glenn Johansson of Echobelly

Brit Pop! A term used for good and bad to describe a bunch of excellent bands coming out of the UK in the 90s. As usual, they were leading the charge in sounds and style making the rest of the world observers. Echobelly, with their killer sound ("Great Things", "King of the Kerb", "Insomniac" and more) and beautiful lead singer looked and sounded different and made a dent because of it. Unfortunately, when Brit Pop moved on, so did the spotlight leaving bands like Echobelly in its wake. This wee

Jul 25, 2023 • 1:16:49

Book Club - John Robb author of The Art of Darkness: The History of Goth

Book Club - John Robb author of The Art of Darkness: The History of Goth

Our Book Club guest this week is writer John Robb. John wears many hats - he runs the popular music website Louder Than War, he's a popular talking head and commentator of music and culture, he's written several books, and he's been in a couple punk bands. His latest is the massive endeavor, The Art of Darkness: The History of Goth which manages to explain the origins of the scene (Edgar Allen Poe, Marquis de Sade, Dionysus) and how that lead to the excellent music we all love (Adam Ant, Siouxsi

Jul 22, 2023 • 1:01:55

Episode 428 - Paul Kelly

Episode 428 - Paul Kelly

Paul Kelly has been labeled "the Australian Bob Dylan" for decades and as much as that's a huge compliment, it undercuts that Paul is legend in his own rite. The talents he shares with the greats are a never ending ear for melody, a bag of hooks that never empties, and a knack for storytelling envied by many. After almost 50 years, Paul is currently curating his vast catalog in a new way. The last couple years has seen him release several "Mix-Tape Compilations" of his songs based on themes like

Jul 18, 2023 • 1:08:06

Recap 2023 Q2

Recap 2023 Q2

Jon and Jan recap Q2, with some excellent gigs in the bag!   We hear about Jan's sabbatical, and more! A huge debt of gratitude to those who filled in.  We couldn't have managed it without you.   We hit a million downloads, so have some goodies to give away, which Jon will tell the Patreon folks about, in the next few days.

Jul 17, 2023 • 1:28:58

Episode 427 - Tommy Stinson of the Replacements/Guns N’ Roses/Solo

Episode 427 - Tommy Stinson of the Replacements/Guns N’ Roses/Solo

What were you doing when you were 14? I bet it wasn't playing bass in one of the most important bands in rock history. Tommy Stinson's career has gone in many directions since those impressionable days, all of it good. After the implosion of the Replacements, Tommy eventually joined Axl Rose in Guns N' Roses while also releasing solo and Bash & Pop albums. His newest project is a pairing with guitarist Chip Roberts called Cowboys in the Campfire and it's laid back and excellent. Tommy's as r

Jul 11, 2023 • 1:00:13

Promo Mode - Mark Brzezicki and Tony Butler of Big Country Discuss the Deluxe Reissue of Driving to Damascus

Promo Mode - Mark Brzezicki and Tony Butler of Big Country Discuss the Deluxe Reissue of Driving to Damascus

Mark and Tony of the mighty Big Country are back to discuss Cherry Red's amazing deluxe reissue of their 1999 album, Driving to Damascus. In the late 90s, Big Country were finally starting to find their footing again after some years of reinvention and Damascus shows a ton of promise of where they might be headed. Sadly, it ended up being their last album with the core four guys. Mark and Tony are upfront about all of it. This reissue collects the original album as well as demos, the "Nashville

Jul 7, 2023 • 1:01:46

Episode 426 - Matt Piucci and Steven Roback of the Rain Parade

Episode 426 - Matt Piucci and Steven Roback of the Rain Parade

It's always a good feeling when artists you haven't heard from in a while come back with some of their strongest work. California's Rain Parade were one of the key bands of the Paisley Underground, the name given to indie bands like the Bangles and the Dream Syndicate who were focusing on melody and steeped in Big Star and the Byrds. Their '83 debut is still a masterwork of any genre. After switching to a major label, the usual challenges ensued and the band ceased, though the members all went o

Jul 4, 2023 • 1:15:02

Episode 425 - Jim Bob of Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine/Solo

Episode 425 - Jim Bob of Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine/Solo

Only the late 80s/early 90s Britain could have produced a band like Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine. With sarcasm and attitude to spare, Jim Bob and Fruitbat pilloried modern British culture in a way no one else could. That talent got them a number one album and a headlining spot at Glastonbury in 1992. Eventually the band went their separate ways and Jim Bob has been on a roll ever since releasing album after album of wry cultural criticism packed with hard won wisdom. His latest, Thanks For

Jun 27, 2023 • 1:14:53

Deep Dive - Producer Terry Manning on ZZ Top’s Eliminator (1983)

Deep Dive - Producer Terry Manning on ZZ Top’s Eliminator (1983)

ZZ Top producer Terry Manning returns this week to tell us about the making of the band's massive comeback album Eliminator. Billy Gibbons is lucky his risky bet that merging blues with new wave would be successful paid off because all signs point that it wouldn't. The album spawned four huge hits like "Legs", "Sharp Dressed Man" and "Gimme All Your Lovin'" and went on to sell about 20 million copies, not to mention confirming their legendary status. Terry discusses helping Billy fulfill his vis

Jun 26, 2023 • 1:22:45

Episode 424 - Dean Roland of Collective Soul/Brock Walsh

Episode 424 - Dean Roland of Collective Soul/Brock Walsh

This week is another fun twofer! We kick it off with Collective Soul guitarist Dean Roland! Dean talks about hitting the road this summer playing various festivals, and the plans next year for a big 25th anniversary celebration. Plus, we hear the stories behind several songs and collaborations. Then, we welcome accomplished songwriter Brock Walsh! Brock is probably best known for writing "Automatic", which the Pointer Sisters turned into a big hit. Brock's career hits many fun pop culture touchs

Jun 21, 2023 • 2:57:57

Episdoe 423 - Louise Post of Veruca Salt

Episdoe 423 - Louise Post of Veruca Salt

The 90s were the best time in music history for women that rocked. When punk went pop the alternative underground was full of killer rock bands fronted and driven by women, including Veruca Salt. Co-founders Louise Post and Nina Gordon made a big splash with hits like "Seether" and "Volcano Girls" and even after Nina left, Louise kept the band going for two more equally, if not harder edged, albums. Louise recently released her first solo album, Sleepwalker, which shows a lot of maturity and vul

Jun 13, 2023 • 1:04:45

Episode 422 - Simon Kirke of Free/Bad Company

Episode 422 - Simon Kirke of Free/Bad Company

Drummer Simon Kirke has been at the forefront of what most people consider real, authentic rock and roll to be. Beginning with the amazing Free and then joining Paul Rodgers in Bad Company, Simon has played on some of the greatest rock songs ever and seen just about everything along the way. In our conversation we talk about the state of the band now, the Brian Howe years, his solo career, his family's take over of Hollywood, the RnR Hall of Fame, and everything in between. The guy has contribut

Jun 6, 2023 • 1:20:23

2023 Recap 1

2023 Recap 1

Jon and Andy record their memories of the first quarter of 2023 (better late than never). The guests, the state of the pod, concerts and whatever else came up. This was recorded live and unedited.  www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jun 5, 2023 • 1:55:39

Episode 421 - David Thomas of Pere Ubu

Episode 421 - David Thomas of Pere Ubu

Pere Ubu mastermind David Thomas has never found a dark, unchartered corner of music he didn't want to explore. More punk in spirit than sound, David has guided the band for almost 50 years leading with his rants and raves and sounds uniquely his own. Last week, the band released their umpteenth album, Trouble on Big Beat Street, and it's as full of ideas as anything else they've done. Here David and I discuss his approach to "pop" music, working with Stephen Hague in the 80s, how he plans out (

May 31, 2023 • 1:02:46

Episode 420 - Stephen Patman of Chapterhouse

Episode 420 - Stephen Patman of Chapterhouse

Chapterhouse were one of the premiere bands to come out of that shoegaze scene of the early 90s in the UK. They were experts at mixing shimmery, psychedelic guitars with acid-house drum samples taking listeners on deep mental and emotional journeys. Guitarist Stephen Patman joins us this week to discuss the new 6-disc box set Chronology coming out this week! We also get into the history of the band, why it only lasted two albums, (Whirlpool and Blood Music, both excellent) and what those wild da

May 23, 2023 • 1:28:20

Episode 419 - Don Letts

Episode 419 - Don Letts

If "influencer" had been a thing back in the 70s, Don Letts would have been the master. He's one of the most important figures in British music and culture, but it's not just because of him being in Big Audio Dynamtie (which he was) or because he's a revolutionary film director (which he is) or because he's a successful DJ (which he is). It's because in the late 70s, he was in the nexus of music, fashion, punk rock and culture and brought the sounds of underground dub and reggae to creatives lik

May 16, 2023 • 1:05:02

Episode 418 - Brad Roberts of Crash Test Dummies

Episode 418 - Brad Roberts of Crash Test Dummies

Toronto's Crash Test Dummies are one of the quirkier acts to ever achieve world-wide fame. Thanks to the 1993 smash "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" off their second album, the world became aware of this band of creative misfits doing their own thing. While more smash hits were not to be, their audience have remained loyal over the years, no matter what style seems to be tickling head Dummy Brad Roberts at the moment. Here Brad and I discuss what inspires him creatively, his feelings about his unique singing v

May 9, 2023 • 55:09

Book Club - Shane Robitaille author or Rockit Crew: The Adventures of Teenage Hip-Hop Misfits

Book Club - Shane Robitaille author or Rockit Crew: The Adventures of Teenage Hip-Hop Misfits

Author Shane Robitaille joins us for Book Club this week to discuss his recent book, Rockit Crew. This wonderful little novel depicts the (mostly) personal story of close friends growing up in the 80s, dealing with being outcasts, bullied, uncool, working class, and broken homes all while also falling in love with Hip-Hop. It's a beautiful coming of age story of teenage boys finding each other at a crucial time in life and forming bonds and memories that last a lifetime. We've all been there. En

May 9, 2023 • 47:14

HAPPY 8th BIRTHDAY TO US with Robbie Nevil

HAPPY 8th BIRTHDAY TO US with Robbie Nevil

The Hustle turns 8 years old this week and we celebrate by bringing on the excellent singer/songwriter Robbie Nevil! When most of us think about Robbie we remember those late 80s hits like "C'est La Vie" and "Dominoes" and then probably wonder where he went. Robbie actually had a successful career as a writer for others before and after his solo career took over. Among the people he wrote for that we talk about are Sheena Easton, Al Jarrreau, Earth Wind and Fire, David Lee Roth, the Pointer Sist

May 3, 2023 • 1:54:47

Episode 416 - Ed Stasium pt.2

Episode 416 - Ed Stasium pt.2

Our conversation with legendary producer Ed Stasium continues today with part two. This time we cover more Ramones, the Smithereens, Genya Ravan, the Sighs and much much more. Enjoy!  www.edstasium.com www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Apr 30, 2023 • 1:26:31

Episode 416 - Ed Stasium pt.1

Episode 416 - Ed Stasium pt.1

This week is another epic two-parter with a legendary producer. This time we get to hear from legendary producer Ed Stasium! American punk rock may not have been what it was without the help of Ed Stasium. He's humble and says he's just a "knob turner", but there is magic in those hands. First of all he helped bring up the Ramones and in part one of this conversation we also discuss the Hoodoo Gurus, Peter Wolf, Living Colour, Marshall Crenshawm and Jeff Healey as well as many others. Ed's full

Apr 26, 2023 • 1:36:12

Book Club - Martin Popoff author of AC/DC @ 50

Book Club - Martin Popoff author of AC/DC @ 50

The great author Martin Popoff returns to the show to discuss his new book in the @ series, AC?DC @ 50. These beautiful books by Motorbooks serve as a great read and an excellent coffee table book.The content counts down 50 benchmark events in the career of AC/DC accompanied by beautiful rare photos. Popoff, one of the best rock writers there is, knows this history inside and out and weaves an entertaining story. Check it out! www.amazon.com/AC-DC-at-Martin-Popoff/dp/0760377413  www.patreon.com/

Apr 22, 2023 • 40:38

Episode 415 - Glen Matlock of the Sex Pistols/Solo

Episode 415 - Glen Matlock of the Sex Pistols/Solo

When you look back over Glen Matlock's career, the parts involving the Sex Pistols are relatively short blips. Yes, they're titans that cast a tall shadow on everything else, but Glen has carved a path for himself the last few years very much his own. He's become a go-to session guy for legends like the Faces and Blondie (who gave a triumphant performance at Coachella last weekend), as well as his own excellent solo career. His latest, Consequences Coming, is out on April 28th and contains all t

Apr 19, 2023 • 1:13:31

Deep Dive - Iva Davies on Icehouse’s Man Of Colour (1987)

Deep Dive - Iva Davies on Icehouse’s Man Of Colour (1987)

We are honored to welcome back Icehouse mastermind Iva Davies to deep dive their breakthrough album Man Of Colours from 1987. This was the album that brought Icehouse into the mainstream with hits like "Crazy" and "Electric Blue" and remains their best known globally. Iva gives us incredible stories about every song on the record, how they came to be, writing with John Oates, and much much more. We're lucky to hear from Iva again! Enjoy.

Apr 17, 2023 • 1:03:03

Episode 414 - Debora Iyall of Romeo Void

Episode 414 - Debora Iyall of Romeo Void

Romeo Void were a sneaky important band. First, they were the most successful band to come out of the San Francisco scene of the early 80s and showed that interesting things were happening in that city. They also had a couple of the most provocative hits of the era, "Never Say Never" and "A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing)" that remain potent today. And frontwoman Debora Iyall represented proudly large women everywhere with her style, intellect, talent and grace. Debora joins us to talk ab

Apr 11, 2023 • 1:13:29

Podcaster Panel - Musical Bias

Podcaster Panel - Musical Bias

Why do people who love music so passionately, still have styles, genres, decades etc that they just can't get into? Does it mean you have a closed mind? Baggage? Bigotry? Have you ever come around to certain artists or styles once the right person or situation turns you on to them? Can you ever approach anything artistic with a completely open mind? Brad Page, BJ Kramp and Eric Miller join Jon to discuss these topics. Tell us what you think!

Apr 10, 2023 • 1:08:23

Episode 413 - Peter Case of the Nerves/the Plimsouls/Solo

Episode 413 - Peter Case of the Nerves/the Plimsouls/Solo

I wonder if it's Peter Case's slightly rebellious spirit that has endeared him to fans for so long. Within one decade he was a member of two hugely important rock bands - the Nerves ("Hanging on the Telephone") and the Plimsouls ("A Million Miles Away"), but since the late 80s he's been doing things his way - a little folk, a little jazz, a little blues, just whatever he felt like. His diverse tastes have made for an equally diverse body of work and his latest album, Doctor Moan, is no exception

Apr 5, 2023 • 1:26:35

Episode 412 - Nik Kershaw and Henry Priestman of Yachts/The Christians/Solo

Episode 412 - Nik Kershaw and Henry Priestman of Yachts/The Christians/Solo

This week is a fun, UK-focused, twofer. First is the great Nik Kershaw. Nik was a major hit maker in the early 80s with songs like "Wouldn't It Be Good" and "The Riddle" peaking with his appearance at Live Aid. Things started to slow down after that, but he's continued on releasing excellent music. This fall he'll be going back on the road in Europe for his first tour in 11 years. After that we hear from journeyman Henry Priestman. Henry was in a great new wave band called Yachts that had some s

Mar 29, 2023 • 1:58:15

Book Club - D.X. Ferris author of The Story of Donnie Iris and the Cruisers

Book Club - D.X. Ferris author of The Story of Donnie Iris and the Cruisers

The great Donnie Iris just turned 80 years old and is still out there playing packed shows that totally rock in his homebase of Cleveland and Pittsburgh. To celebrate we welcome author D.X. Ferris to discuss his book The Story of Donnie Iris and the Cruisers. Part oral history, part narrative, Ferris goes through every benchmark in Donnie's career, including every track on every album with Donnie, Mark Avsec, and the rest of the band. We learn about why Ferris felt compelled to write this book a

Mar 27, 2023 • 50:46

Episode 411 - Rodney Anonymous of the Dead Milkmen

Episode 411 - Rodney Anonymous of the Dead Milkmen

Philadelphia's Dead Milkmen hold a special place in American punk rock. Relying heavily on absurdist humour rather than ferocity, the band found a place in the hearts of many with underground hits like "Punk Rock Girl" and "Bitchin' Camaro". Eventually the band slowed way down and the guys went back to "normal" with the occasional reunion show, but as frontman Rodney Anonymous shows us, that caustic sense of rebellion has never left. Here Rodney tells us the band's story, his feelings on perform

Mar 22, 2023 • 1:20:27

Deep Dive - Gina Schock on House of Schock (1988)

Deep Dive - Gina Schock on House of Schock (1988)

We are welcoming back Hall of Famer Gina Schock to discuss her lone solo album, House of Schock from 1988, After the Go-Gos called it quits, and with each member going off to do their own thing, Gina formed House of Schock with bassist Vance DeGeneres (Ellen's brother). They only managed one album, and a decent hit with "Middle of Nowhere" before moving on to other projects. Gina fills us in on the full story and much more. Enjoy!

Mar 20, 2023 • 1:01:37

Episode 410 - John Leckie

Episode 410 - John Leckie

Producer John Leckie's long and storied career spans from Syd Barrett and John Lennon to Doves and the Coral. That's over 50 years of amazing work. In this 2 hour conversation we try to cover as much of it as possible. The diverse and far-ranging list of topics include Fela Kuti, Ornette Coleman, the Stone Roses, Human League, Simple Minds, Gene Loves Jezebel, Spiritualized, the Verve, Ride, Pink Floyd, John Lennon, George Harrison, XTC, T. Rex, the Fall, Public Image Ltd, Magazine, Radiohead, E

Mar 15, 2023 • 2:38:14

Episode 409 - Tony Carey

Episode 409 - Tony Carey

It's been a long, sometimes confusing, ride for Tony Carey. His breakthrough on the big stage was being recruited to join Rainbow on their Rising album. After a year or so, Tony decided he'd be happier on his solo and chose to go back to focusing on his solo career. In the early 80s things started to pick up with the success of "A Fine Fine Day" and "Why Me" under his Planet P Project moniker. But, once again, he decided the rock and roll ratrace wasn't for him and he moved to Germany where he's

Mar 8, 2023 • 1:35:43

Episode 408 - Sean Dickson of the Soup Dragons/HiFi Sean

Episode 408 - Sean Dickson of the Soup Dragons/HiFi Sean

It hasn't been easy for Sean Dickson. In fact, he doesn't even look like the Soup Dragons frontman you remember from early 90s hits like "I'm Free" and "Divine Thing". There's a good reason for that - almost nothing is the same. Since the Soup Dragons closed up shop in the late 90s, Sean came out, left music for many years, spent some time battling mental health, marrying his husband and finally becoming an in demand DJ named HiFi Sean and releasing a hit new album with vocalist David McAlmont r

Mar 1, 2023 • 1:45:56

Episode 407 - Ron Sexsmith

Episode 407 - Ron Sexsmith

Canadian singer/songwriter Ron Sexsmith has been so consistently strong his entire career that it's easy to take him for granted. If industry respect equated to hits, he'd have hundreds, but instead he carries on effortlessly doing what he does and doing it well. Last week we released his latest album, The Vivian Line, and it's just as good as anything else he's done, of course. Ron joins us this week to discuss his lengthy career, his unique Twitter persona, his approach to songwriting, and mor

Feb 22, 2023 • 1:26:39

Book Club - Gary Graff author of Alice Cooper @ 75

Book Club - Gary Graff author of Alice Cooper @ 75

Much like with recent guest Martin Popoff and his Bowie @ 75 book, author Gary Graff has summarized the incredible career of Alice Cooper into 75 key moments and illustrates the significance of each. Starting with his childhood in Arizona and Detroit, and then moving on to being discovered by Frank Zappa, hitting their stride thanks to Bob Ezrin, the big comeback with "Poison", and the settling in as shock rock elder statesman, every major up and down is featured in the book along with hundreds

Feb 18, 2023 • 48:55

Episode 406 - Dan Wilson

Episode 406 - Dan Wilson

Last year songs written by Dan Wilson were streamed on Spotify 743 million times. Think about that. Dan has turned a decent run as the frontman for Semisonic ("Closing Time"), into one of the most successful songwriting careers of the last 25 years. The big ones are Taylor, Adele, Mitski and the Chicks, but we also discuss his work with bands like Weezer and Nada Surf among others. Alongside all of this is his own beautiful solo career. He recently released an EP called Dancing on the Moon and i

Feb 15, 2023 • 1:37:58

Episode 405 - Steve Hillage

Episode 405 - Steve Hillage

There's a good chance Steve Hillage was beamed here from another planet and has been living among us as an alien for over 70 years. He starts out in the far out prog band Gong making super challenging music. He then goes solo and makes equally challenging music with producers like Nick Mason and Todd Rundgren while exploring where the mind (and his guitar) could go. Then, he decides techno and trance music has a similar spacey effect so he becomes System 7 and travels the world DJing. Along the

Feb 8, 2023 • 1:27:59

Book Club: DJ Richard Blade Author of World in My Eyes and The Lockdown Interviews

Book Club: DJ Richard Blade Author of World in My Eyes and The Lockdown Interviews

The great DJ Richard Blade joins us to discuss a couple of his recent books. A couple years ago he released his entertaining memoir World In My Eyes which details his rise to fame as one of the most recognizable DJs in the world. He also recently released another book, The Unlocked Interviews which are conversations he had during lockdown with some of music’s greatest personalities. We discuss both of these as well as many behind the scenes stories from his long career. Enjoy!

Feb 6, 2023 • 1:10:05

Episode 404 - Corinne Drewery of Swing Out Sister

Episode 404 - Corinne Drewery of Swing Out Sister

The wonderful Swing Out Sister are celebrating 35 years of exceptional music this year. They may be best known for the global (and still evergreen) hit "Breakout" from their debut album in 1987, but there has been a steady stream of excellent albums and hits of all kinds ever since. Their style has gone deep into jazz, lounge and house while always remaining uniquely SOS. The duo of Corinne Drewery and Andy Connell are celebrating that history with the recent boxset Blue Mood, Breakout and Beyon

Feb 1, 2023 • 1:30:19

Episode 403 - Dave Rowntree of Blur

Episode 403 - Dave Rowntree of Blur

For a while there in the 90s Blur were one of the biggest bands in the world. Global dominance didn't last long, but for some people, especially in the UK, they're still legends. After years of making music for Film and TV, drummer Dave Rowntree has just released his first solo album, Radio Songs, which sounds like you might imagine someone adept at scoring might sound. In this conversation, Dave discusses the transition from band drummer to musician for hire, why the time was now for a solo alb

Jan 25, 2023 • 1:26:49

2022 4th Quarter and Year End Review

2022 4th Quarter and Year End Review

2022 was an excellent year for The Hustle Podcast, and Jon, Andy & Jan give their thoughts on the last quarter, and on their top ten  episodes for the year. Jan goes bold, and predicts a specific episode will be hard to beat for the winner for the 2023 edition of this recap. Catch the reasoning behind that. Watch out for some interesting updates at the Q1 recap.  Yeah, it's 3 months away yet, but you'll never believe it if we told you now, so we won't

Jan 23, 2023 • 2:33:16

Episode 402 - Marian Gold of Alphaville

Episode 402 - Marian Gold of Alphaville

Who would have guessed when Alphaville recorded "Forever Young" way back in 1984 that it would go on to be the anthem that it is today? That's just one of several surprises in this band's career. They've taken many artistic risks over the years, never standing still for too long, and their fans have always stood by them. Recently, they turned their classic songs over to a German symphony and the result is Eternally Yours, which brings compelling new arrangements to the songs you know. Lead singe

Jan 18, 2023 • 1:10:51

Episode 401 - Stephen Lipson

Episode 401 - Stephen Lipson

This week is another one of the greatest producer/engineers of all time Stephen Lipson! Lippy first made a name for himself when a little song he produced called "Driver's Seat" became a hit. Then, when he joined up with Trevor Horn's production crew, it was off to the races. We discuss their collaborations on albums by Grace Jones, Simple Minds, and Propaganda. From there he broke off to do his own thing and we get to hear stories on the Stones, Bruce Hornsby, Sinatra, Whitney Houston, Cher and

Jan 11, 2023 • 2:01:44

Deep Dive - Tony Kaye of Yes on Big Generator (1987)

Deep Dive - Tony Kaye of Yes on Big Generator (1987)

Yes keyboardist and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Tony Kaye returns to the show to discuss the making of Yes's 1987 album Big Generator. The band was not in a good place when producer Trevor Horn brought them together for the 90125 album. Because that album was such a surprise hit, the team came back together for the follow up, only to have more dysfunction and infighting. Surprisingly, with hits like "Rhythm of Love" and "Love Will Find a Way", the album became another hit almost in spite of itse

Jan 10, 2023 • 1:18:59

Episode 400 - Trevor Horn

Episode 400 - Trevor Horn

We're kicking off 2023 and celebrating 400 episodes with one of our most desired guests - the great Trevor Horn! Known as the man who "invented the 80s", Trevor discusses his groundbreaking work with artists like Seal, Yes, Simple Minds, Grace Jones, Marc Almond, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and ABC as well as his adoption of technology to achieve his creative goals. More importantly, Trevor recently released a sort of autobiography called Adventures in Modern Recording: From ABC to ZTT that recoun

Jan 4, 2023 • 1:18:56

Episode 399 - Tiffany/Mark Burgess of the Chameleons

Episode 399 - Tiffany/Mark Burgess of the Chameleons

We're closing out 2022 with another twofer! This week we get to hear from 80s pop starlet Tiffany. At 16, Tiffany became the youngest female singer to reach #1 when "I Think We're Alone Now" took over the world. Pop stardom can be fleeting though, and in a short time she had to rethink her career. Since then she's done a little bit of everything - country and dance music, acting, cooking shows and more. Last month she released her latest album, Shadows, which is a fantastic collection of rock so

Dec 28, 2022 • 2:13:12

Episode 398 - Ivan Julian of Richard Hell and the Voidoids/Solo

Episode 398 - Ivan Julian of Richard Hell and the Voidoids/Solo

Guitarist Ivan Julian is a punk rock lifer. Though born in the states, Ivan became a professional musician when he moved to London and started touring with The Foundations in 1972. Eventually he made his way back to NYC and was a principle of the CBGB scene and founding member of Richard Hell and the Voidoids. Even though their lone album, Blank Generation, is considered  classic, the band didn't last long. Ivan has started a few other bands over the years, played with artists like The Clash, Ma

Dec 21, 2022 • 1:20:56

Episode 397 - Lisa Loeb/Steve ”Smiley” Barnard

Episode 397 - Lisa Loeb/Steve ”Smiley” Barnard

This week is a super fun twofer. First up is the delightful Lisa Loeb. She talks about her new radio show, Where They Are Now, her love of David Bowie, her more recent albums, her dabbles in children's music, and much more. She's as wonderful as you think she'll be. Then we hear from drummer Steve "Smiley" Barnard. Smiley has been one of the UK's most in demand musicians for 30 years. He started with the Mock Turtles but then spent a couple years play with Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros and eve

Dec 14, 2022 • 2:06:14

Book Club - Joel Selvin author of Sly & the Family Stone: An Oral History

Book Club - Joel Selvin author of Sly & the Family Stone: An Oral History

Author Joel Selvin joins us this week to discuss the re-release of his 1998 book Sly & the Family Stone: An Oral History. When Joel originally put this book together in the 90s, there was nothing even close to a definitive history of Sly and his band. Even today, it still stands as a striking and horrifying account of a musical genius torpedoed by drugs and the band members and family members that were affected, including the ones that followed him down. Also, Joel and I discuss his work on Samm

Dec 13, 2022 • 59:18

Episode 396- John Cafferty of the Beaver Brown Band

Episode 396- John Cafferty of the Beaver Brown Band

What a strange trip it's been for John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. After a decade of playing every pier and boardwalk in the Northeast, they achieved "overnight success" when they were plucked to do the music for the 1983 film Eddie and the Cruisers. This brought them big hits like "On The Darkside" and "Tender Years" but because the popular video was taken from the movie, many listeners were confused where the movie ended and the band began. JCBBB continued to have hits on their next al

Dec 8, 2022 • 1:15:46

Podcaster Panel: Does Cher Belong in the Rock Hall?

Podcaster Panel: Does Cher Belong in the Rock Hall?

In this live and unedited panel discussion, Jon is joined by three friends and fellow podcasters to debate whether Cher, icon that she is, belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Team NAY is made up of Jon and Scott Kummer of the 10 Junk Miles Podcast. Team YAY is Josh Fitzgerald of the Movies that Rock podcast and Nick Bambach of the Rock in Retrospect podcast. You like fireworks and hot takes? We have plenty. What say you, does Cher make the cut?  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ten-j

Dec 4, 2022 • 1:07:46

Episode 395 - Jeanette Jurado of Exposé

Episode 395 - Jeanette Jurado of Exposé

Did you know that Miami's Exposé are the 8th most successful girl group of all time? And did you know they were the first group to land four top 10 songs on their debut album? Accolades like that are mostly forgotten with these guys, unfortunately. The combination of Jeanette Jurado, Ann Curless, and Gioia Bruno - all great singers, all beautiful and all different - was unbeatable from the mid 80s to the early 90s. Svengali Lewis Martineé guided the girls to huge hits like "Point of No Return",

Nov 30, 2022 • 1:07:12

Episode 394 - Tom Werman

Episode 394 - Tom Werman

Tom Werman was one of the most successful producers of the 70s and 80s. He's responsible for making Cheap Trick what they are thanks to his work on their first few albums. He's also behind some of the best power pop of the era like the Producers, Off Broadway, and Gary Myrick. And, he helped shape the sound of the Sunset Strip by producing massive albums by Motley Crue, Twisted Sister and Poison. Oh, he also discovered Ted Hugent, Boston, REO Speedwagon and more. Surprisingly, in the 90s he left

Nov 24, 2022 • 1:40:08

Deep Dive - Phill Brown on Talk Talk’s Spirt of Eden (1988)

Deep Dive - Phill Brown on Talk Talk’s Spirt of Eden (1988)

Talk Talk basically invented a new musical language with their fourth album, Spirit of Eden. The band began as a strong, but slightly derivative, synth pop group, but due to the artistic restlessness of main man Mark Hollis, Talk Talk evolved into something no one had ever heard before and hasn't heard since. Critics called what they did "post-rock", which is probably pretty close. Former guest Phill Brown was the engineer on those sessions and recounts the entirely unique circumstances Mark and

Nov 20, 2022 • 1:33:22

Episode 393 - Kirk Douglas of The Roots/Hundred Watt Heart

Episode 393 - Kirk Douglas of The Roots/Hundred Watt Heart

The Roots are revolutionary artists for many reasons. Not just the music they make, but being hired as Jimmy Fallon's house band changed the landscape of late night television. Guitarist Kirk Douglas has risen as one of the most exciting images on our TVs night after night. In addition to his two important day jobs, Kirk also has a solo career as Hundred Watt Heart and recently released his second solo album, New Unknown. Kirk's sound is true gumbo, but the main hallmarks are psychedelic guitar

Nov 16, 2022 • 1:13:58

Promo Mode - Tarquin Gotch on Life Moves Pretty Fast: The John Hughes Mixtapes Box Set

Promo Mode - Tarquin Gotch on Life Moves Pretty Fast: The John Hughes Mixtapes Box Set

Today sees the release of the much anticipated box set of songs from John Hughes movies called Life Moves Pretty Fast: The John Hughes Mixtapes. John's Music Supervisor, and friend of the podcast, Tarquin Gotch returns to discuss how he went about compiling the box, what got left off and why, and the love and care that went into it finally coming out. Over four discs (and plenty of extra goodies) we can relive the hugely influential music from one of the hugely influential voices of his generati

Nov 12, 2022 • 37:44

Episode 392 - Dar Williams

Episode 392 - Dar Williams

Singer/songwriter Dar Williams can do it all. On top of her wonderful music career, she also publishes the occasional book and her latest is a gift to creative people everywhere. How to Write a Song that Matters shows her describing not only the best way to approach making music, but also how to tap into the best parts of yourself when tackling something inventive. She details her own experiences of stressing over a certain word, committing to an idea and seeing it through, finding the right cho

Nov 9, 2022 • 1:35:49

Episode 391 - Glen Phillips of Toad the Wet Sprocket/Solo and Garrison Starr

Episode 391 - Glen Phillips of Toad the Wet Sprocket/Solo and Garrison Starr

This week is a fun twofer with a couple of excellent singer/songwriters that are hitting the road together. First up is Toad the Wet Sprocket frontman Glen Phillips. Not only has Glen fronted Toad since the beginning with hits like "Walk On the Ocean" and "Come Down", but he's also had his own robust solo career. Glen has a new album coming out this weekend called There Is So Much Here that is a wonderfully optimistic take on the world. Glen is a deep guy and we hit all the big topics - faith, m

Nov 2, 2022 • 2:47:09

Episode 390 - Jason Scheff of Chicago/Generation Radio and Rebecca Pidgeon

Episode 390 - Jason Scheff of Chicago/Generation Radio and Rebecca Pidgeon

This week is another special twofer!  Imagine being brought into one of the biggest bands in the world at 23 years old to replace the face of the band. That's the lion's den bassist Jason Scheff strode into and remained for the next 31 years. Jason recently left the band to take care of some family matters and now has a new album with his new supergroup Generation Radio that is a total blast It's an album inspired by the magic of 80s rock radio and will surely put a smile on your face. Jason dis

Oct 26, 2022 • 2:01:25

2022 Recap 3

2022 Recap 3

Jon, Andy and Jan review the 3rd quarter, discuss Andy's arboreal habits and find out what gigs we'd all been to. Spoiler alert.  Jan didn't get to any this quarter.  Find out what he DID get to, on the last day of the quarter!

Oct 24, 2022 • 2:20:32

Episode 389 - Bobby Whitlock of Derek & The Dominos/Solo

Episode 389 - Bobby Whitlock of Derek & The Dominos/Solo

The mythology of classic rock is built on the backs of legendary characters like Bobby Whitlock. Bobby was involved in three of the greatest rock albums ever made - George Harrison's All Things Must Pass, the Rolling Stones' Exile on Main Street and, of course, Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs from when he and Eric Clapton teamed up for Derek & The Dominos. Bobby discusses his own solo career, plus working with legends like Delaney & Bonnie, Steve Winwood, Duane Allman, "Duck" Dunne, and many

Oct 19, 2022 • 1:23:58

Episode 388 - Jack Tempchin

Episode 388 - Jack Tempchin

Songwriters Hall of Fame member Jack Tempchin is probably best known for the hits he penned for the Eagles. "Peaceful Easy Feeling" and "Already Gone" are two of the most heard songs in history. He also helped Glenn Frey have a few solo hits like "Smuggler's Blues" and "You Belong to the City" among others. Johnny Rivers, Glen Campbell, Tanya Tucker and George Jones are also in his history. Today, Jack has a couple projects he's super excited about. First, he's collaborating with the great young

Oct 12, 2022 • 1:37:45

Episode 387 - Don Powell of Slade/Chuck Wright of Quiet Riot

Episode 387 - Don Powell of Slade/Chuck Wright of Quiet Riot

This week is a pretty unique pairing of classic rockers. First up we hear from Slade drummer Don Powell! Don discusses those glory days of Slade, why they never fully caught on in the States despite being one of the biggest UK bands of the 70s, how Quiet Riot's cover of "Cum on Feel the Noize" finally brought them some attention, the personal and business obstacles the band had to overcome and his recent solo album with the Occasional Flames, Just My Cup of Tea. He's about as nice as they come!

Oct 5, 2022 • 1:54:59

Episode 386 - Billy Bragg

Episode 386 - Billy Bragg

God bless Billy Bragg, one of mankind's greatest gifts! The man has devoted his life to fighting for those that can't fight for themselves, to improving the planet and to inspiring all of us to get involved. We learn what actually motivates him is empathy and knowing that makes his mission even better. Last year he put out a new album called The Million Things That Never Happened that sees him looking at the world optimistically and this week he kicks off a North American tour. We also go deep o

Sep 28, 2022 • 1:28:10

Deep Dive - Dennis Diken on The Smithereens’ Green Thoughts (1988)

Deep Dive - Dennis Diken on The Smithereens’ Green Thoughts (1988)

Great news coming out of the Smithereens' camp these days. This weekend they released The Lost Album which is a collection of songs recorded in the early 90s that never saw the light of day until now. Hearing the band, especially the voice of the late great Pat DiNizio again is like manna from heaven for fans. We welcome drummer Dennis Diken to discuss the new album and then we Deep Dive the band's classic from 1988, Green Thoughts. We discuss each track, working with Don Dixon, the many guests

Sep 26, 2022 • 1:25:53

Episode 385 - Tony James of Generation X/Sigue Sigue Sputnik/Sisters of Mercy/Carbon Silicon

Episode 385 - Tony James of Generation X/Sigue Sigue Sputnik/Sisters of Mercy/Carbon Silicon

Tony James is one of rock's great shapeshifters. He starts out with Billy Idol in Generation X, one of the great punk bands, but when Billy went solo, Tony took some time to conceptualize his next creative move. That gestation period eventually brought about Sigue Sigue Sputnik, one of the most outrageous groups of the 80s. Though they were short-lived, the band left a giant lipstick stain on the collar of pop music. Tony then downgraded to sideman when he joined up with "The" Sisters of Mercy f

Sep 21, 2022 • 1:24:17

Promo Mode - Anvil on the Re-Release of Anvil! The Story of Anvil

Promo Mode - Anvil on the Re-Release of Anvil! The Story of Anvil

One of the best rock docs ever made is coming back to theaters next month to celebrate its 13th anniversary. Who can forget seeing Anvil! The Story of Anvil for the first time? For many (too many, sadly) it was our introduction to Lips and Robb and their decades long struggle to be taken seriously in rock and roll. The world fell in love with these guys, and the movie, and they've been enjoying a lot more success ever since. Anvil's Lips Kudlow and Robb Reiner along with director Sacha Gervasi j

Sep 19, 2022 • 45:07

Episode 384 - Guy Chadwick of the House of Love

Episode 384 - Guy Chadwick of the House of Love

For a band that has barely made a peep over the last 25 years, the House of Love are having a major resurgence. This summer they released the incredible 8 CD box set Burn Down The World that showcases just about everything from their major label days. They're also kicking off a UK tour this week, as well as a 30th anniversary tour of the US next month, and, as if that isn't enough, they have a killer new album called State of Grace coming out this Friday! Mastermind Guy Chadwick joins us to disc

Sep 14, 2022 • 1:16:49

Book Club - Martin Popoff author of Bowie@75

Book Club - Martin Popoff author of Bowie@75

Acclaimed author Martin Popoff joins us to discuss his new coffee table book Bowie@75. Martin is probably best known for his many books and thoughts on hard rock and heavy metal, but this time he's focused on a beautiful book that celebrates Bowie at 75, but also the 75 chronological benchmarks in Bowie's career - good and bad. In here we talk about how he wrote the book, but also banter and debate our hot takes and opinions about the man. The book is as gorgeous as it is thought provoking. Chec

Sep 13, 2022 • 1:03:03

Episode 383 - Richard James Burgess

Episode 383 - Richard James Burgess

Google Richard James Burgess. Trust me. His list of accomplishments, inventions, innovations, businesses, etc is long. We focus on his production career here and it barely scratches the surface. He started out in the late 70s as the frontman for a quirky synthpop band called Landscape that had a couple hits in the UK. He quickly went into production work starting with the first couple Spandau Ballet albums and then became a go-to guy for vibrant pop music with a dance accents and an r&b angle. H

Sep 7, 2022 • 1:45:38

Book Club - Brian J. Kramp author of This Band Has No Past: How Cheap Trick Became Cheap Trick

Book Club - Brian J. Kramp author of This Band Has No Past: How Cheap Trick Became Cheap Trick

This week we are honored to welcome our good friend, and first time author, BJ Kramp to the show to talk about his new book on Cheap Trick. Many of us may feel like we have a book somewhere inside of us, but BJ actually did, conducting hundreds of interviews to tell the origin story of one of the greatest American bands ever. We learn about his writing process, the band's involvement, and why he connects with Cheap Trick so much. The book is great and we're incredibly proud of our friend and his

Sep 5, 2022 • 1:05:13

Episode 382 - Howard Jones

Episode 382 - Howard Jones

We did it! It only took 382 episodes, but we finally get to hear from the great Howard Jones! Next week sees the release of his new album, Dialogue, which is the 3rd album of a four-part series that discusses the issues of our time and humanity's responsibility to find common ground. If anyone knows about staying positive in the face of adversity, it's Howard Jones! We also discuss his performance at Live Aid, the ups and downs of his career, following his creative muse, and why he's so huge in

Aug 31, 2022 • 1:00:40

Book Club - Mitchell Cohen author of Looking for the Magic: New York City, The ’70s and the Rise of Arista Records

Book Club - Mitchell Cohen author of Looking for the Magic: New York City, The ’70s and the Rise of Arista Records

Writer Mitchell Cohen started working in the music business during those heady days in the 70s that we imagine as the peak period for record labels. When Clive Davis began Arista Records, Mitchell was there on the ground floor doing marketing and A&R and helping to build the label into what it would become. He writes about these experiences in his new book, Looking for the Magic, that details label politics, building marketing campaigns, and highlighting musicians big and small. He shares those

Aug 29, 2022 • 1:03:02

Episode 381 - Jon King of Gang of Four

Episode 381 - Jon King of Gang of Four

Gang of Four's 1979 debut album Entertainment! defined what we think of when we think of "post-punk". They perfected the mix of angular guitars crossed with disco bass, driving beats and political lyrics. The band's sound continued to evolve over time, but never lost its bite or urgency. Unfortunately, as with most bands, there's been a lot of animosity over the decades, but with the passing of guitarist Andy Gill last year, frontman Jon King is carrying the torch and recently completed a succes

Aug 24, 2022 • 1:16:50

Episode 380 - Annabella Lwin of Bow Wow Wow

Episode 380 - Annabella Lwin of Bow Wow Wow

Annabella Lwin has seen a lot. More than she wants to talk about, honestly. We know the story - discovered at 13 and made the lead singer of a band masterminded by the outlandish Malcolm McLaren, Bow Wow Wow. They make a sound no one's ever heard before and leave behind a bunch of hits no one will ever forget (sadly, only "I Want Candy" got much traction in the States). The career she had would never fly now, not like it did then, but she's survived a lot, including the end of the band, a solo a

Aug 16, 2022 • 1:10:47

Bonus - INXS Talk on Rock in Retrospect

Bonus - INXS Talk on Rock in Retrospect

Rock in Retrospect host Nick Bambach recently had Jon and Haydn Murdoch of the INXS: Access All Areas podcast on his show to make their case why INXS deserves consideration for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Here is our impassioned plea! www.rockinretrospect.buzzsprout.com

Aug 13, 2022 • 2:45:28

Episode 379 - Stephen Street

Episode 379 - Stephen Street

This week is another legendary producer, the fantastic Stephen Street! Stephen first came to prominence when he engineered those classic Smiths album like Meat is Murder and The Queen is Dead. He ultimately produced the Strangeways, Here We Come album, which led to a partnership with Morrissey on his solo debut. Stephen is also best known for his work with Blur and producing Parklife, one of the ultimate British albums of the modern era. He's also had long collaborations with the Cranberries and

Aug 10, 2022 • 1:38:39

2022 Recap 2

2022 Recap 2

Jon, Andy and Jan recap the second quarter's episodes, and discuss what's going on in their lives, and gigs.  Jan's curious love of redheads makes an appearance ( you think he'd learn, after the first one ).   We also get into gig openers, and discuss our faves!  Make sure and tell us yours! There's also some great music available.  Check out the following:   Opener: The Byson Family  Dusty: Dusty Miller   Our featured song for this recap can be found at Rich Bischoff Original Music

Aug 8, 2022 • 2:48:09

Episode 378 - St. Paul Peterson of Morris Day and the Time/The Family/Solo

Episode 378 - St. Paul Peterson of Morris Day and the Time/The Family/Solo

In Minneapolis, the Peterson family musical dynasty goes back decades. Paul Peterson didn't even have to think about what he'd do with his life. In his late teens, he was pegged to join Morris Day and the Time for their Ice Cream Castles album which became their biggest and featured hits like "Jungle Love" and "The Bird". From there, Prince decided to build The Family, one of his many 80s side projects, around the voices of Paul and Susannah Melvoin. But, after one album The Family ended and Pau

Aug 3, 2022 • 1:20:26

Episode 377 - Steve Lillywhite pt.2

Episode 377 - Steve Lillywhite pt.2

In the second part of our conversation with the great Steve Lillywhite, we get into his work with Aretha Franklin, the Chameleons, Crowded House, The La's, Thompson Twins, Talking Heads, XTC, U2, Ultravox, and the Psychedelic Furs. And there's more ballbusting and strong opinions. Steve's the best!  https://www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jul 31, 2022 • 1:31:59

Episode 377 - Steve Lillywhite pt.1

Episode 377 - Steve Lillywhite pt.1

It finally happened! When Jon started this podcast seven years ago, at or near the top of his dream guest wishlist was producer Steve Lillywhite, one of his absolute favorites. Steve was so cool and generous with his time that we're releasing this in two parts. In part one we get straight into it discussing Steve's work with Travis, Morrissey, the Killers, Marshall Crenshaw, Big Country, Simple Minds, U2, Peter Gabriel, the Pogues, the Rolling Stones and Johnny Thunders. There are also side conv

Jul 27, 2022 • 1:43:52

Episode 376 - Paul Humphries of OMD and Mary Fahl of October Project/Solo

Episode 376 - Paul Humphries of OMD and Mary Fahl of October Project/Solo

We have another wonderful 2fer for you this week.  First up is Paul Humphries of OMD! The band recently completed a hugely successful US tour and are now in Europe bringing the same greatness. They remain one of the best live acts around and the music they've made since reforming a few years ago remains top notch! Paul and I discuss the history of the band, what they did during the break, and the stories behind many of the classic songs.  Then we hear from the talented singer Mary Fahl! In the e

Jul 20, 2022 • 2:34:49

Episode 375 - Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music

Episode 375 - Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music

Seriously, what can you say about Roxy Music? They are literally one of the most inventive and influential musical acts in history. That fact was finally confirmed when they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago. Guitarist Phil Manzanera joins us this week to talk about the history of the band, the evolution of their sound, and how they're getting back together for some 50th anniversary shows later this year. In addition, Phil has had a fruitful career collaborating w

Jul 13, 2022 • 1:25:29

Podcaster Panel: When Rock Stars are Problematic - Music, Politics, and Fandom

Podcaster Panel: When Rock Stars are Problematic - Music, Politics, and Fandom

WARNING: 100% POLITICS TALK Jon is joined by friends and fellow podcasters Eric Miller, Brad Page and BJ Kramp to discuss how we approach fandom when our favorite rock stars are on the wrong side of history. Are opposing political views and historically bad behavior grounds to move on? What are the stakes politically in this day and age? Here's our live and unedited discussion on this topic.

Jul 10, 2022 • 1:22:17

Bonus - Doobie Brothers Talk on Retro Rock Roundup

Bonus - Doobie Brothers Talk on Retro Rock Roundup

Jon was recently invited by host Mike Wiles to come on the Retro Rock Roundup podcast to discuss the Doobie Brothers and go album by album through their career. Here's their conversation.  www.retrorockroundup.com

Jul 8, 2022 • 2:37:35

Episode 374 - Margo Timmins of the Cowboy Junkies

Episode 374 - Margo Timmins of the Cowboy Junkies

Nobody does what the Cowboy Junkies do quite like they do. The Canadians' music is often slow, smokey, and emotional and conveys a heaviness even if it's not always heavy. They have also shown a mastery of covers, often taking ownership of the song from the original artist, and their latest album, Songs of the Recollection, is an album of excellent and well thought out covers, some of which might surprise you. Lead singer Margo Timmins joins us this week to discuss the band's long history includ

Jul 6, 2022 • 1:16:21

Episode 373 - Pete Agnew of Nazareth/John Payne of Asia

Episode 373 - Pete Agnew of Nazareth/John Payne of Asia

It's a classic rock two-fer this week! First up is Nazareth bassist Pete Agnew. This band of Scots has been chugging along for over 50 years and Pete is the last original member still at it. Pete and the band managed to release a super strong new album this year, Surviving the Law, that's one of the best they've released in a while. Pete and I discuss the effects of the lockdown on touring, what it's like experiencing periodic success in various parts of the world, and the glory days of Hair of

Jun 29, 2022 • 2:05:27

Bonus - Phillip Reichenheim director of Freakscene: The Story of Dinosaur Jr.

Bonus - Phillip Reichenheim director of Freakscene: The Story of Dinosaur Jr.

We're lucky to be living in the golden age of excellent rock docs. The latest one to add to the list is Freakscene: The Story of Dinosaur Jr. In this episode, director Phillip Reichenheim joins us from Berlin to discuss making the movie and working with the unique personalities of J, Lou, and Murph. The film also includes excellent insights from Henry Rollins, Black Francis, Kim Gordon and more. The movie is now available for streaming, so check it out even if the band is new to you!  www.dinosa

Jun 26, 2022 • 44:10

Episode 372 - Steve Levine

Episode 372 - Steve Levine

This week is another excellent producer. Steve Levine had worked as an engineer on albums by the Clash and the Vibratoirs before doing the work that brought him the most attention - producing the first three Culture Club albums. He saw that band conquer the world and, ultimately, implode. This led to gigs producing the Beach Boys, Quarterflash, China Crisis, America, the Creatures, and the Vapors among many others. Today's he's busier than ever working for the BBC as well as many other projects.

Jun 22, 2022 • 1:38:42

Book Club - Nick Duerden author of Exit Stage Left: The Curious Afterlife of Pop Stars

Book Club - Nick Duerden author of Exit Stage Left: The Curious Afterlife of Pop Stars

Writer Nick Duerden has recently published a book that, if you've been a listener of this podcast for any length of time, will be manna from heaven. His new book, Exit Stage Left, explores what rock stars do when the spotlight has moved on. Sound familiar? It's one of the most enjoyable music books you'll ever read if you've ever wondered how and why artists try to make it work decade after decade. We get the inside story of around 50 artists of all levels of fame (many of which have also been g

Jun 20, 2022 • 1:00:17

Episode 371 - Mike Scott of the Waterboys

Episode 371 - Mike Scott of the Waterboys

Ringleader Mike Scott has been at the center of the Waterboys keeping the train moving for about 45 years. He's always mixed traditional Irish folk music with the poetry of Bob Dylan or Yeats and a heavy dose of punk to create their unique sound and spirit. The result is spirit-lifting anthems like "The Whole of the Moon" and "Fisherman's Blues" and a bunch of fantastic and experimental detours. The last few albums have seen Mike experiment with drum loops and hip-hop beats culminating in the sp

Jun 15, 2022 • 1:26:42

Episode 370 - Cy Curnin of The Fixx/Stephen W. Tayler

Episode 370 - Cy Curnin of The Fixx/Stephen W. Tayler

This week is another very special two-fer who share a long history together.  First up is Fixx frontman Cy Curnin! The band have a brand new album called Every Five Seconds that is as good as anything they've done (and was produced by our second guest). They're also about to embark on a tour of the US which is a must see. Cy discusses the new record, working with Stephen and Rupert Hine, and the stories behind several Fixx classics.  Then we get to hear from noted mixer/producer Stephen W. Tayle

Jun 8, 2022 • 2:12:49

Episode 369 - Graham Bonnet of Rainbow/MSG/Alcatrazz/Solo

Episode 369 - Graham Bonnet of Rainbow/MSG/Alcatrazz/Solo

You could say Graham Bonnet is hard rock's greatest chameleon. Perpetually stylish and sexy with his white suits, short hair and sunglasses, he continues to be an anomaly compared to his metal peers. He was plucked from relative obscurity to front Rainbow in the late 70s, but only lasted one album before joining Michael Schenker's group where his time was even shorter. Then he created Alcatrazz which launched the careers of Yngwie Malmsteen and Steve Vai and which he's dipped in and out of over

Jun 1, 2022 • 1:18:29

Episode 368 - John Doe of X/Solo and Roger Manning Jr. of Jellyfish/Lickerish Quartet

Episode 368 - John Doe of X/Solo and Roger Manning Jr. of Jellyfish/Lickerish Quartet

It's a couple of straight shooters this week.  First up is punk legend John Doe. John's been exploring the intersection of punk and rockabilly for over 40 years now (X's 2020 album Alphabetland is an incredible return to form), but his solo career is often much quieter, more Americana. His new album, Fables in a Foreign Land is maybe his best yet. Here we discuss the Hispanic influence on parts of the new album, writing poetry, X's recent comeback, and a couple stories from the set of Road House

May 25, 2022 • 2:11:01

Episode 367 - Lenny Kaye of the Patti Smith Group

Episode 367 - Lenny Kaye of the Patti Smith Group

Guitarist Lenny Kaye has positioned himself as the ultimate tour guide through the history of rock and roll. Of course he's best known for being Patti Smith's enabler and co-conspirator, having been by her side since day one. He's also a producer helping artists like Suzanne Vega, James, Kristen Hersh and Soul Asylum find their best selves. He's a noted music historian, having curated the indispensable Nuggets compilation and writing articles and liner notes for decades. And, he's also a writer

May 18, 2022 • 1:44:48

Episode 366 - Leo Sayer

Episode 366 - Leo Sayer

When you think about music from the late 70s, chances are good you think about Leo Sayer. He practically owned that period with hits like "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing", "When I Need You" and "More Than I Can Say". Unfortunately, bad management robbed him of his career (and all his money) and he's had to build it all back up, which he's done successfully for decades. The last few years have been especially fruitful. In 2019 he released the excellent album Selfie and this year he put out Norther

May 11, 2022 • 1:46:45

Episode 365 - HAPPY 7th BIRTHDAY TO US with Darryl ”DMC” McDaniels of Run-DMC

Episode 365 - HAPPY 7th BIRTHDAY TO US with Darryl ”DMC” McDaniels of Run-DMC

The Hustle turns seven this week and to celebrate we welcome Rock and Roll Hall of Famer and the "King of Rock" Darryl "DMC" McDaniels of Run-DMC! Darryl recently published a children's book called "Darryl's Dream" about an awkward kid with big glasses growing up in the hood with an interest in comic books and cartoons. That kid grew up to join forces with Run and Jam Master Jay and form Run-DMC, one of the most revolutionary music groups in history. Darryl discusses the history of the group, hi

May 3, 2022 • 58:13

Book Club - Graeme Thomson author of Theme For Great Cities: A New History of Simple Minds

Book Club - Graeme Thomson author of Theme For Great Cities: A New History of Simple Minds

The new book by Graeme Thomson answers many of the questions Simple Minds fans have had for decades. In Themes For Great Cities, Thomson explains (with participation from almost all band members past and present) how their artistically challenging beginning gave rise to their commercial peak in the mid-80s. What were their influences, how were songs like "I Travel" and "Love Song" even constructed, and what was behind the good and bad decisions the band made along the way. Theme is manna from he

May 2, 2022 • 1:08:47

Episode 364 - Brinsley Schwarz

Episode 364 - Brinsley Schwarz

Guitarist Brinsley Schwarz, in his own little way, changed music. When his namesake band came on the scene in the early 70s, they popularized a sound (along with bands like Dr. Feelgood, Clover and Status Quo) that would forever be known as "Pub Rock". British bands emulating the American roots music they were hearing, while adding their own spin. After a few albums, the hyper talented Nick Lowe left the band and Brinsley joined up with Graham Parker to start the Rumour. After several years in a

Apr 26, 2022 • 1:26:26

Episode 363 - Ann Wilson of Heart/Jeff Bova

Episode 363 - Ann Wilson of Heart/Jeff Bova

This week is another two-fer! First up is the legend herself and one of the greatest voices in rock history, Heart's Ann Wilson! Ann and Nancy have been doing their own thing the last few years and Ann has a brand new solo album called Fierce Bliss coming out on the 29th. To me, it sounds the closest to the heavy rock sound of the 70s that Heart and their influences like Led Zeppelin and Bad Company were doing. Singles like "Greed" and her cover of the Eurythmics' "Missionary Man" are already ou

Apr 20, 2022 • 2:05:59

Episode 362 - Brian O’Neal of the BusBoys

Episode 362 - Brian O’Neal of the BusBoys

Imagine being one of the hottest tickets in Hollywood in the early 80s. The parties. The celebrities. The glitz and glam. The BusBoys lived that life for a while. As most people know, they were captured for eternity thanks to their appearance in the movie 48 Hours, which cemented a friendship with Eddie Murphy that continues to this day. Frontman Brian O'Neal and the guys are finally back with new music! Excellent singles "Love On My Mind" and "Civil Rights" are already out there and a new album

Apr 13, 2022 • 1:26:30

2022 Recap vol.1

2022 Recap vol.1

This time Jon is joined by Hustle CMO Any Schaal to recap the last three month's of episodes. Lots of behind the scenes stories, what's working and what isn't, some parenting experiences, Jan's new podcast (!), recent concerts and more. Enjoy!  www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Apr 11, 2022 • 2:16:16

Episode 361 - Robin Guthrie of Cocteau Twins/Solo

Episode 361 - Robin Guthrie of Cocteau Twins/Solo

Is Robin Guthrie one of the most influential guitarists ever? Going back to his days with the Cocteau Twins, up to his stellar solo work the last 25 years, his shimmering, reverb-heavy style pretty much kicked off the Shoegaze and Dream Pop movements. Not to mention, it inspired every bedroom player to mess with the pedals and knobs to find that perfect sound. Robin has spent the last couple decades adding to his legacy by consistenly releasing stellar albums (mostly ambient, many with others in

Apr 6, 2022 • 1:20:36

Book Club - Ben Wardle author of Mark Hollis: A Perfect Silence

Book Club - Ben Wardle author of Mark Hollis: A Perfect Silence

Author Ben Wardle has pulled off what, until a few years ago, would have been impossible. He's written a brand new book detailing the life of the late great, and intensely private, Mark Hollis of Talk Talk. A Perfect Silence includes interviews with many people who worked closely with Mark and helps us get as close as possible to understanding the man who walked away from music (and public life) almost 25 years ago and never resurfaced. We learn Mark was into golf and motorcycles, but never stra

Apr 3, 2022 • 53:35

Episode 360 - Dave Wakeling of the English Beat/General Public

Episode 360 - Dave Wakeling of the English Beat/General Public

Good ol' Dave Wakeling. Still out there keeping the flame of English Beat and General Public alive. Sadly, after the passing of his old buddy Ranking Roger three years ago, the mantle sits squarely on his shoulders. In this conversation (that's the best word for it) Dave and I discuss the ups and downs of his relationship with Roger, his approach to songwriting, his non-starting solo album, their early 90s comeback, whether Mick Jones was meant to be a member of General Public, growing old, John

Mar 30, 2022 • 2:06:41

Episode 359 - Dale Bozzio of Missing Persons

Episode 359 - Dale Bozzio of Missing Persons

Would Lady Gaga, Madonna and New Wave music in general be what they became without the stylistic influence of Dale Bozzio and the guys in Missing Persons? Not only did the band establish a template for the new wave sound with their debut album Spring Session M in 1982, but Dale otherworldly look married substance and style in a way that hadn't been done before. Dale writes about her wild life in her new book Life Is So Strange, which details her being discovered by Frank Zappa, marrying Terry Bo

Mar 22, 2022 • 1:08:25

Episode 358 - Curtis Stigers

Episode 358 - Curtis Stigers

Almost exactly 30 years ago, Curtis Stigers had it all going for him. His first album is hitting big thanks to the song "I Wonder Why" climbing the charts, his cover of "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding" is included on The Bodyguard soundtrack (famously making Nick Lowe a rich man) and he's working with legends like Carole King. But, after a few more years, Curtis makes the bold choice to switch to jazz and he's been among the best of the genre since. He recently released th

Mar 16, 2022 • 1:19:45

Episode 357 - Tim Finn of Split Enz/Solo

Episode 357 - Tim Finn of Split Enz/Solo

This week we're welcomed by rock royalty. Tim Finn is one of the most consequential artists of the last 50 years, especially for music lovers Down Under. As one of the founding members of Split Enz, he brought New Wave closer to the mainstream and pushed boundaries for others. Then his wonderful solo career, dalliances with Crowded House and collaborations with brother Neil as well as Phil Manzanera, Eddie Rayner and many more have maintained an unparalleled level of quality. He and Eddie are at

Mar 9, 2022 • 1:18:22

Promo Mode - Dave Faulkner discusses the new Hoodoo Gurus’ album Chariot of the Gods

Promo Mode - Dave Faulkner discusses the new Hoodoo Gurus’ album Chariot of the Gods

Australia's Hoodoo Gurus are releasing their first new album in 12 years, Chariot of the Gods on March 11th. Lead singer Dave Faulkner returns to the pod to discuss the state of the world that inspired a lot of these songs. the idea that it might be the band's final statement, and the status of their world tour. Also, the band will be performing the whole album on a livestream the day before the release. Tickets to the show are available on their website below. We're so lucky to have this band s

Mar 6, 2022 • 47:42

Episode 356 - Gina Schock of the Go-Go’s

Episode 356 - Gina Schock of the Go-Go’s

Thanks to the effective and entertaining documentary from 2020, the Go-Go's are enjoying a much-deserved resurgence. The revolutionary group of gals even made it into the Rock Hall last year, finally! Drummer Gina Schock released the beautiful coffee table picture book/memoir called Made In Hollywood last year. With all that's going on, it's time for Gina to tell her story. In this chat we expand on stories from the book, get a feel for the band dynamic, and go deep on her musical contribution t

Mar 2, 2022 • 1:09:06

Episode 355 - Ivan Doroschuk of Men Without Hats

Episode 355 - Ivan Doroschuk of Men Without Hats

If all you know about Men Without Hats is their eternal hit "Safety Dance" you're missing out. The Canadian synthpop outfit tried other styles and broadened their sound (1987's Pop Goes The Worldbeing a high point), including a grunge album few have heard, but it's been "Safety Dance '' that has never gone away and for good reason, it's still as fresh as it was in '82. Frontman Ivan Doroschuk has been at the helm the whole time and talks candidly about some of his struggles, but, ultimately, his

Feb 23, 2022 • 1:06:04

Book Club - Bradley Morgan Author of U2’s The Joshua Tree: Planting Roots in Mythic America

Book Club - Bradley Morgan Author of U2’s The Joshua Tree: Planting Roots in Mythic America

First time author Bradley Morgan felt compelled to compare the political world that encircled U2's creation of the iconic Joshua Tree album with the state of the country today. Bradley dissects the album track by track, retelling the inspiration behind each song, and paints a vivid picture of what inspired four Irish punks to make a definitive statement of Reagan's America. Additionally, how does it stand up today and have "the two Americas" become more unified? We're joined this week by co-host

Feb 20, 2022 • 46:10

Episode 354 - Mick Wall

Episode 354 - Mick Wall

No Rock Doc is complete without an appearance from esteemed British rock writer Mick Wall. Mick's career goes way back to the 70s working promotion and PR for many of the great New Wave bands, but he quickly realized the real action was in Heavy Metal. This led to gigs writing for Kerrang! and Classic Rock magazines (among many others) and penning books on Zeppelin, GnR, Meat Loaf, Ozzy, Maiden, Sabbath, Lemmy and many more. Mick recently started the Mick Wall Podcast which is a load of fun. Mic

Feb 16, 2022 • 2:05:51

Bonus - Howie Klein

Bonus - Howie Klein

Here's my conversation with label honcho, political blogger, gay activist and more Howie Klein. In the 70s Howie was a DJ and concert promoter in San Francisco when he started 415 Records. That story was told brilliantly in Bill Kopp's new book Disturbing the Peace that we showcased last week. When 415 was sold to Columbia, it kicked off Howie's long career as a mover and shaker in the music biz. In here we talk a lot about his time at Sire and Warner Bros. where he worked closely with Depeche M

Feb 13, 2022 • 1:28:56

Episode 353 - Beau Hill

Episode 353 - Beau Hill

One could argue that producer Beau Hill is the architect of the sound of 80s Hair Metal. Just as his nascent producing career is getting started, Ratt hit the jackpot with Out of the Cellar and "Round and Round" and from there he (along with Bob Rock and Ron Nevison) becomes THE go-to-guy for that sound. That leads to huge commercial success with bands like Warrant, Winger, Twisted Sister, Europe and Alice Cooper (not to mention fantastic bands that didn't take off like Airrace, Sandy Stewart, S

Feb 9, 2022 • 2:00:34

Book Club - Bill Kopp author of Disturbing the Peace: 415 Records and the Rise of New Wave

Book Club - Bill Kopp author of Disturbing the Peace: 415 Records and the Rise of New Wave

Author Bill Kopp has gifted music lovers with a fantastic piece of history. In his new book, Disturbing The Peace, Bill tells the story of San Francisco's influential 415 Record label started by Howie Klein and Chris Knabb. The story recounts how this upstart label even got off the ground, the key venues that built the scene, and, of course, the many excellent bands, many of which have been lost to history. Eventually, when 415 artists like Romeo Void, Translator, Wire Train and Red Rockers star

Feb 7, 2022 • 58:28

Episode 352 - Mark Seymour of Hunters & Collectors/Solo

Episode 352 - Mark Seymour of Hunters & Collectors/Solo

Rocker Mark Seymour is one of Australia's greatest gifts to music. From his many years fronting the mighty Hunters & Collectors to his last couple decades putting out quality solo work, Mark has fought the good fight and inspired millions of others to do the same. In our conversation we discuss the difficulty of being the main songwriter for a large band with strong opinions as well as their change in sound over time, why they never quite took off in the States while compadres like Midnight Oil,

Feb 2, 2022 • 1:31:28

2021 Year in Review

2021 Year in Review

Jon and Jan look back at 2021, discuss life without their dads, the state of the world and more. We also recap the last three month's worth of episodes with any behind the scenes stories, and countdown our Top 10 eps of the year, as well as the listener picks. And lastly, we answer some listener questions (hope we got most of them). Thanks for sticking with us!

Jan 31, 2022 • 2:37:53

Episode 351 - Jacknife Lee

Episode 351 - Jacknife Lee

Where to start with Jacknife Lee? He's been one of the most successful and in demand producers of the last 20 years for a start. A short list of people he's worked with include the Killers, Weezer, Modest Mouse, James, Neil DIamond, One Direction, Taylor Swift, REM, Snow Patrol, the Hives, Bloc Party and the Cars, and he won a Grammy for U2's Atomic Bomb album. Then there's his solo work, which always includes incredible artists like Beth Ditto, Sneaks, and Open Mike Eagle to create forward-thin

Jan 26, 2022 • 2:46:23

Episode 350 - Doug MacMillian of The Connells

Episode 350 - Doug MacMillian of The Connells

Raleigh, North Carolina's Connells have had a unique career. Jangly, college rock mainstays in America/HUGE one-hit-wonders in Europe. Throughout the 80s and 90s the band was able to make a career in Indie rock with songs like "Stone Cold Yesterday" and albums like the MItch Easter produced Boylan Heights. But, in 1993 they had a giant hit across the Atlantic with "74-75" which seemed to come out of nowhere. The band called it quits 20 years ago, but in 2021 they released their first album since

Jan 19, 2022 • 1:12:02

Episode 349 - Dee C. Lee of the Style Council/Solo

Episode 349 - Dee C. Lee of the Style Council/Solo

Singer Dee C. Lee's vocal talents are undeniable. She was already making strides in the London music scene when she was pegged by Wham! to sing back up on their first album which featured hits like "Club Tropicana" and "Young Guns (Go For It)". This led to the life-changing gig with the Style Council. Hits like "Walls Come Tumbling Down", "Shout to the Top", and "Wanted" wouldn't be what they are without her. She proved to be so valuable she became a full member and a writer, not to mention she

Jan 12, 2022 • 1:17:15

Episode 348 - Stephen Hague

Episode 348 - Stephen Hague

Would you ever guess that one of the key producers for the radical synth-styled music coming out of the UK in the 80s was an American former LA session musician? Thanks to artists like New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, OMD and many others, Stephen Hague shaped what we think of when we think of the best music artists like that had to offer in the 80s. He's been a key figure in music ever since. Since his 80s career was recently covered fantastically on the 80sography podcast, we dig into other a

Jan 5, 2022 • 2:05:44

Episode 347 - Rocky Burnette

Episode 347 - Rocky Burnette

In 1980, Rocky Burnette hit #8 on the pop charts with "Tired of Toein' The Line", an excellent song that still holds up today. That may have been the peak of his solo career, but his musical history stretches much further. His dad was Johnny Burnette, the Godfather of Rockabilly. Rocky shares stories of growing up in old Hollywood and hanging out with Elvis. His cousin is Billy Burnette, who replaced Lindsey in Fleetwood Mac in the late 80s, and has had a solid career of his own. After Rocky's s

Dec 29, 2021 • 49:45

Episode 346 - Colin Campsie of The Quick/Giant Steps

Episode 346 - Colin Campsie of The Quick/Giant Steps

Colin Campsie is one of those artists that consistently made quality music whether everyone was paying attention or not. He and his partner George McFarlane finally started having success in the early 80s as The Quick, an excellent dance group that had a #1 Dance chart hit with "Zulu". After three albums they changed their name to Giant Steps, took on a more r&b style, and scored a #13 hit in 1988 with "Another Lover". However, both before and since, Colin has written and produced for other peop

Dec 22, 2021 • 1:14:33

Episode 345 - Jerry Casale of DEVO

Episode 345 - Jerry Casale of DEVO

DEVO are the template for New Wave. Mixing the DIY aggression of punk with the new technology of the late 70s is what they did better than anyone else. Over the years, the music could be up and down, but their vision of de-evolution has proven to be accurate. Co-founder Jerry Casale has also had a successful career as a director and has recently created one of his best videos yet to his new single "I'm Gonna Pay You Back". It's amazing. Here we discuss his entire career as well as a heavy dose o

Dec 15, 2021 • 1:25:06

Podcaster Panel: The Rookies

Podcaster Panel: The Rookies

This week I had a chat with four of our newer podcasting friends, all of which have started their own pods fairly recently. There's Alex Alt of the Sly Dog Music-Cast, Mike Wiles of Retro Rock Roundup, Patrick Dupuis of EETF and Nick Bambach of Rock in Retrospect. Each host brings with them stories about what it takes to start and maintain a podcast, what have we learned, what were expectations going in and how have they changed, monetization, work vs reward, and where we see this going.  If any

Dec 12, 2021 • 1:22:45

Bonus - Sequence One: Glass Jar with Brent Zius

Bonus - Sequence One: Glass Jar with Brent Zius

Our good friend Brent Zius (Podcast Rock City) has a unique and ambitious music project we wanted to tell you about. With the help of musician Zoog Von Rock of Angelspit, they've created an epic vinyl sci-fi concept album called Sequence One: Glass Jar. It's a space fantasy audio journey unlike anything you've seen before. The project is in the kickstarter stage, so if you like what you hear, please consider contributing. Either before or after this interview, be sure to watch the video at the l

Dec 11, 2021 • 28:47

Episode 344 - Tony Kaye of Yes

Episode 344 - Tony Kaye of Yes

Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Tony Kaye does what he wants. As a founding member of Yes, he helped build the band into legends, but left after three albums when it stopped being fun. After spurts in bands like Detective and Badfinger and touring with Bowie, he came back to Yes for their 80s heyday, but eventually left again, when it stopped being fun. In fact, he's been known to leave music altogether to play tennis, sell t-shirts, whatever got him excited. Now, largely retired in Florida, he's cr

Dec 8, 2021 • 1:33:06

Podcaster Panel: Get Back and Music Wormholes

Podcaster Panel: Get Back and Music Wormholes

This week we welcome back more of our best buddies - Joy Royland of Sit and Spin with Joe, Ben Montgomery of Records Revisited and, the Podfather himself, Ken Mills to discuss again our impressions of the Get Back documentary. What did we learn, what would we change, etc. This leads to a second discussion on musical wormholes we went on this year. Again, this was recorded live and then released - no edits! Enjoy!

Dec 5, 2021 • 1:15:31

Episode 343 - Pete Byrne of Naked Eyes

Episode 343 - Pete Byrne of Naked Eyes

When you think about all the classic synth pop duos of the 80s (Erasure, Pet Shop Boys, OMD, etc) Naked Eyes are right up there too. Rob Fisher and Pete Byrne only managed two albums in their heyday, but scored four top 40 hits like "Always Something There to Remind Me" and "Promises Promises" that have remained evergreen. After Rob's death, Pete IS Naked Eyes these days and put out a brand new album this year called Disguise The Limit, their first album of all new material in over 35 years. Pet

Dec 1, 2021 • 1:04:19

Podcaster Panel: 2021 TV Shows

Podcaster Panel: 2021 TV Shows

Today we recorded a live round table with some of our best friends - Brad Page of the I'm In Love With That Song podcast, BJ Kramp from Rock and/or Roll, and Eric Miller of the Pods & Sods Network. The point of the discussion was to countdown our top three TV shows of the year, which we do, but before that we spend a lot of time discussing Get Back, whether BJ and Eric are even still in podcasting, Thanksgiving, turning friendly chats into content, and a bunch of other stuff. Once again, we just

Nov 29, 2021 • 1:42:49

Episode 342 - Jude Cole

Episode 342 - Jude Cole

When singer/songwriter Jude Cole was on the scene from the mid 80s to the mid 90s you knew you were listening to someone special. His ability to marry hooks and harmonies in a rock, bordering on Americana, tradition (think of someone like Aimee Mann) put him above the rest. But, after four strong albums and some moderate hits, he decided to change his focus to artist management, even discovering successful acts like Lifehouse. After 20 years of being on that side of the business, Jude is back th

Nov 24, 2021 • 1:13:08

Episode 341 - Susan Rogers

Episode 341 - Susan Rogers

Noted audio engineer/producer Susan Rogers began her unique career in the late 70s, but she really earned her bona fides when she moved to Minneapolis to assist Prince. She was right by his side during those peak Purple Rain to Sign O the Times years, helping him create, record, log, and document his every creative impulse (she created his famous "Vault"). She shares stories of her experiences that add invaluable color to who Prince was and what he was like to work with. After leaving Prince, sh

Nov 17, 2021 • 2:08:24

Episode 340 - Donnie Iris

Episode 340 - Donnie Iris

Unless you live in Ohio or Pennsylvania, you may not have heard from the great Donnie Iris for a while. Many of us fans probably even carry some regret that he wasn't a bigger star when he was active back in the 80s. Well, there's no need to worry! Donnie has been living the life for many years now, playing a few shows a year along the Rust Belt, putting out an album or two here and there, and enjoying the spoils of his labor. This was a light-hearted, funny conversation and I think you'll agree

Nov 10, 2021 • 1:03:56

2021 Recap vol.3

2021 Recap vol.3

Jon and Jan recap the last three months of episodes, including a few behind the scenes stories. While they're at it they get into death, work, travel, and life in general. Join us!    www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Nov 8, 2021 • 1:32:00

Episode 339 - Alan Parsons/Mike Thorne

Episode 339 - Alan Parsons/Mike Thorne

This week is a special two-fer, two legendary producers in one shot! First up is the legend himself, Alan Parsons! If you think about it, even with all the iconic albums he's worked on like Dark Side and Abbey Road, his main focus has largely been his Alan Parsons Project. In fact, they are releasing a brand new live CD/DVD called The Neverending Show: Live in the Netherlands on Nov. 5th. We discuss the Project's history and hits as well. Then we talk to producer Mike Thorne. This is the man who

Nov 3, 2021 • 2:05:09

Episode 338 - Midge Ure

Episode 338 - Midge Ure

Midge Ure has done so many amazing things, been in so many amazing bands, and recorded so much amazing music that you could fill several books! From Slik to the Rich Kids to Thin Lizzy to Visage and finally Ultavox, he was a pioneer in the sound that synths and guitars could make together, creating some of the most enduring music ever. We touch on just about all of this, as well as his solo career and working with luminaries like Phil Lynott, Paddy Maloney, and Kate Bush as well as many others.

Oct 27, 2021 • 1:21:36

Episode 337 - Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls/Solo

Episode 337 - Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls/Solo

This week we are honored to welcome Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls! Any conversation with a citizen as solid as Amy is going to include the current state of the world, but her empathetic and wise view of it all may surprise you. She's seen it all and knows firsthand that positive change happens slowly. We also discuss fun stuff like her excellent solo career, her memories of Lilith Fair (they've evolved over the years), her love for Salt Lake City, her memories of the recently departed Nanci Griffi

Oct 20, 2021 • 1:13:49

Book Club: Mike Evans author of The Who: Much Too Much

Book Club: Mike Evans author of The Who: Much Too Much

In this edition of Book Club we welcome seasoned rock writer Mike Evans to discuss his new book, The Who: Much Too Much. Mike's book tells us the whole Who story, from beginning to end, while also reviewing every Who album and song. Plus, it features scores of never before seen photos. It's the perfect starter guide for the band. Jon and Dave discuss Mike's history with the band, his feelings are the band's dynamics, favorite songs, and more. Enjoy!  www.palazzoeditions.com www.patreon.com/thehu

Oct 17, 2021 • 59:43

Episode 336 - Jon ”Bermuda” Schwartz of ”Weird” Al Yankovic

Episode 336 - Jon ”Bermuda” Schwartz of ”Weird” Al Yankovic

Drummer Bermuda Schwartz has been by "Weird" Al's side since that fateful day when they recorded "Another One Rides the Bus" for Dr. Demento. In all these years, he's watched as new generations discover Al at just the right time and remain devoted fans over the decades (bringing their kids and grandkids along for the ride). While helping Al fulfill his comedic and creative vision, Bermuda has also served as archivist, collecting every speck of swag/recording/photo there's ever been. This has res

Oct 13, 2021 • 1:27:46

Episode 335 - Chris Frantz of Talking Heads/Tom Tom Club

Episode 335 - Chris Frantz of Talking Heads/Tom Tom Club

Last year, drummer Chris Frantz released his excellent memoir "Remain in Love", a sincerely wonderful and unique rock bio. This week he joins us to discuss his life before, during and after Talking Heads, but also the central relationship in his life, his marriage with the great Tina Weymouth. He also share stories how the band's sound evolved over time, his production work with Happy Mondays and Ziggy Marley, and how Tom Tom Club's "Genius of Love" has provided a very nice living thanks to Mari

Oct 6, 2021 • 1:36:11

Episode 334 - Martin Briley

Episode 334 - Martin Briley

Singer/Songwriter Martin Briley's solo career may have been brief, but he isn't bothered about it. Best known for the 1983 hit "The Salt in My Tears", Martin has always been way more comfortable working behind the scenes. He has been a session guy for artists like Ellen Foley, Ian Hunter, Julian Lennon and Bonnie Tyler (he even plays on "Total Eclipse of the Heart"), but his focus has always been on writing, preferably for anyone but himself. This has led to everyone from Celine Dion to N'Sync t

Sep 29, 2021 • 1:44:13

Episode 333 - Tessa Niles

Episode 333 - Tessa Niles

Whether you're aware of it or not, you've heard Tessa Niles' voice on dozens of beloved songs. She was one of Britain's most in demand backup singers for more than 20 years appearing with artists like ABC, Duran Duran, Tina Turner, Steve Winwood, Tears For Fears. In addition she toured with Eric Clapton, the Police, Robbie Williams and performed at Live Aid with David Bowie. She's written her entire story in the endlessly entertaining memoir Backtrack which is highly recommended. In our conversa

Sep 22, 2021 • 2:00:22

Book Club - John Aizlewood author of Joy Division + New Order: Decades

Book Club - John Aizlewood author of Joy Division + New Order: Decades

Esteemed music writer John Aizlewood returns to the podcast to discuss his new book Joy Division + New Order: Decades. The book is a fantastic distillation of the band's story along with beautiful never before seen photos and reviews of every album, written in that intelligent and entertaining way that only John can do. We also discuss the band's place in history, it's current dysfunction and favorite songs. And, since we're lucky to have John back, we discuss some other artists too. Enjoy!    w

Sep 19, 2021 • 1:14:04

Episode 332 - Gary Langan

Episode 332 - Gary Langan

Can you imagine what it must have been like to actually work with Queen on "Bohemian Rhapsody"? Producer Gary Langan can say he was there! Gary's done a lot, but his career really started to take off in the early 80s when he was a member of Trevor Horn's production team. That connection had him working on landmark albums by Yes, ABC and Malcolm McLaren. He went on to do his own work with artists like Spandau Ballet, Public Image Ltd, Then Jerico, Scritti Politti, The Dream Academy and Billy Idol

Sep 15, 2021 • 2:56:50

Episode 331 - Kasim Sulton of Utopia/Todd Rundgren/Meat Loaf/Blue Oyster Cult/Solo

Episode 331 - Kasim Sulton of Utopia/Todd Rundgren/Meat Loaf/Blue Oyster Cult/Solo

This week is one of the best sidemen in the business, Kasim Sulton! Kasim hit the big leagues when he joined Utopia in the mid-70s where he stayed for about a decade. Of course this formed the bond with Todd Rundgren that has remained to this day. In addition there have been stints with Meat Loaf, Joan Jett, Hall and Oates, Blue Oyster Cult, the Indigo Girls and many more. When he has the time, he releases solo albums, including his latest, Kasim 2021 (produced by former guest Phil Thornalley),

Sep 8, 2021 • 1:30:50

Episode 330 - Ian McNabb of the Icicle Works/Solo

Episode 330 - Ian McNabb of the Icicle Works/Solo

As great as the Icicle Works were, they will forever be remembered for one perfect moment, the still gorgeous "Birds Fly (Whisper to a Scream)". After that one hit in the States (and a few more in the UK), the band called it quits in the 90s and lead singer Ian McNabb has been going strong ever since. He's been on an especially epic hot streak the last few years with several exceptional albums in a row, capped off with his latest, Utopian. Ian discusses very openly the history of Icicle Works, h

Sep 1, 2021 • 1:18:24

Episode 329 - Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze/Solo

Episode 329 - Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze/Solo

The duo of Difford and Tillbrook are up there with Jagger/Richards, Lennon/McCartney, John/Taupin and Holland/Dozier/Holland as one of history's greatest songwriting teams. Glenn's knack for a melody has always provided the perfect space for Chris's intelligent lyrics. Today, Squeeze is as busy as ever. They're currently on tour (some dates as openers for Hall & Oates), and Glenn continues to release strong albums, both with Squeeze and solo. Glenn and I discuss the history of the band, the stor

Aug 25, 2021 • 1:23:44

Deep Dive - Ellen Foley on Nightout (1979)

Deep Dive - Ellen Foley on Nightout (1979)

From out of nowhere, former guest Ellen Foley has released one of the best rock albums of 2021. Her latest work (and only her second in 40 years), Fighting Words hearkens back to her glam rock beginnings when she was a beautiful instrument in the hands of legends like Ian Hunter and Mick Ronson. This is why, in addition to discussing the new album, we deep dive her debut album Nightout that features those two greats and, in some ways, feels like an extension of the music she had been making with

Aug 23, 2021 • 1:24:08

Episode 328 - Guy Pratt

Episode 328 - Guy Pratt

These days Guy Pratt might be best known as the co-host of the second best (😉) music podcast in the world: Rockonteurs, which he does with his buddy Gary Kemp of Spandau Ballet. They bring so many years of experience and music love to every conversation, it's just about the best thing out there. Guy's experience includes some of everything. He started out with Icehouse in the early 80s, toured with Pink Floyd in the late 80s and played with everyone from Bryan Ferry to Madonna to Michael Jackso

Aug 18, 2021 • 2:32:14

Episode 327 - Steve Smith of the Vapors/Tony Marsico of the Cruzados

Episode 327 - Steve Smith of the Vapors/Tony Marsico of the Cruzados

This week is a special two-fer: two great bass players from two great 80s bands that are releasing new music this weekend. We start with Vapors bassist Steve Smith. Everyone knows the Vapors from their enduring hit "Turning Japanese", but the fantastic band only managed two great albums in the early 80s before calling it quits. Finally, a couple years ago they came back "together" for a long-awaited third album called Together that has been welcomed warmly. Now they're enjoying playing 80s festi

Aug 10, 2021 • 2:32:58

Episode 326 - Lyle Workman

Episode 326 - Lyle Workman

Guitarist Lyle Workman is one of the more successful multi-hyphenates. He began his career in the 80s as a member of Bourgeois Tagg where he co-wrote their biggest hit, the beautiful "I Don't Mind At All". When that band broke up, he became a hugely in demand sideman and session guitarist where he lent his talents to artists like Jellyfish, Frank Black, They Might Be Giants, Alanis Morissette, Bryan Adams, Pat Monahan, Sting, Todd Rundgren and many others. As if that wasn't enough, he eventually

Aug 3, 2021 • 1:29:26

Episode 325 - Andy Scott of Sweet

Episode 325 - Andy Scott of Sweet

Don't we all kind of wish we'd been in London in the 70s absorbing all the fantastic music pouring out? One of the greatest that doesn't get enough credit is glam rockers Sweet. Known for eternal jams like "Ballroom Blitz", "Fox on the Run" and "Love Is Like Oxygen", Sweet (with the help of Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman) married sparkling, but heavy, guitar riffs with perfect pop songs like few others. Today, guitarist Andy Scott is carrying on the Sweet name and released a great album of reworke

Jul 27, 2021 • 1:02:27

2021 Recap vol.2

2021 Recap vol.2

For the latest Recap Jon is joined by Hustle CMO Andy Schaal to discuss the last three months of podcasting Commando Style! No edits, no songs, no production. Totally live. We have to kick it off with some very sad news but then we cover newsworthy topics and, of course, all the episodes from April, May and June. Thanks everybody for your continued support.  www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jul 26, 2021 • 2:04:31

Episode 324 - Paula Cole

Episode 324 - Paula Cole

Paula Cole was one of the key figures of the "Lilith Fair Generation" - that class of fantastic female artists like Sarah McLachlan, Shawn Colvin, India Arie, Joan Osbourne, and many more - whose artistry finally got the attention it deserved. Sadly, when the spotlight on Lilith moved on it moved off many of them too. But, Paula has consistently released strong albums ever since and her latest, American Quilt is her doing gorgeous versions of many American spirituals and folk songs from history.

Jul 21, 2021 • 1:32:04

Book Club - Joel Miller author of Memoir of a Roadie

Book Club - Joel Miller author of Memoir of a Roadie

In his early 20s Joel Miller, like most of us, was floating.  There was telesales, film production work, and other things. He eventually decided to try his hand at being a roadie and quickly joined a Stone Temple Pilots tour where he rose up the ranks. This lead to tours and interactions with Guns n Roses, the Cranberries, and many others. He decided to write about his experience in his entertaining book Memoir of a Roadie. In this discussion, Jon and Dave bro down with Joel about his experience

Jul 19, 2021 • 1:30:22

Bonus - The Music Of Your Youth on Pretty Much Pop

Bonus - The Music Of Your Youth on Pretty Much Pop

Jon was invited to join the gang from Pretty Much Pop: A Culture Podcast recently to discuss how we relate as adults to the music we loved in our youth. Does it hold up? Do we ever really move on? What does it say about us if we still go back there? Will new music ever surpass the music we grew up on? The panel tackles these topics in an engaging discussion. Go in the PMP archives and find other eps you might like. It's good stuff!

Jul 15, 2021 • 50:54

Episode 323 - Dennis DeYoung of Styx/Solo

Episode 323 - Dennis DeYoung of Styx/Solo

Dennis DeYoung is saying goodbye. Last month he released what he says will be his final studio album, the killer 26 East Vol.2 (the equally excellent Vol.1 came out last year). But before he goes off into retirement, he agreed to share with us his thoughts on just about everything. Dennis holds court on Styx and it's various iterations, capitalism, punk rock, lockdown, his hits, his solo career, prog rock, street cred, marriage and a million other things. If you know Dennis, you also know the gu

Jul 14, 2021 • 1:36:19

Bonus - Michael Ciravolo of Beauty in Chaos

Bonus - Michael Ciravolo of Beauty in Chaos

We don't normally cover new bands on the Hustle, but we're making a special exception this time. Beauty in Chaos is the brainchild of musician Michael Ciravolo. Michael is steeped in the dark goth rock of the 80s, bands like the Cure, the Mission, Gene Loves Jezebel (who he also played with). He's taken that and released two great albums (as well as two remix albums), but what's amazing is who he's gotten to appear on these albums. Here's a list - Robin Zander, Michael Anthony, Simon Gallup, Ice

Jul 12, 2021 • 1:03:05

Episode 322 - Donnie Vie of Enuff Z'nuff/Solo

Episode 322 - Donnie Vie of Enuff Z'nuff/Solo

Fans know that Enuff Z'nuff are one of the most mishandled, mismarketed and misunderstood rock bands ever. The boys from Chicago had way more in common with logical legends Cheap Trick and the Beatles than with the Poisons and Warrants they were getting lumped in with (nothing against those bands). This cost EZ the chance to truly take off like they should have. Sadly, the aftermath was drugs, bankruptcy, sex, lawsuits, you name it. Donnie left years ago for an excellent solo career, while Chip

Jul 7, 2021 • 1:20:50

Episode 321 - Peter Coyne of The Godfathers

Episode 321 - Peter Coyne of The Godfathers

In the late 80s the Godfathers were on to something. College radio hits like "Birth, School, Work, Death" was a swift punch in the face at a time just before that sound would become more commonplace. Covid prevented the band from celebrating their 35th anniversary to the fullest, but that will hopefully be changing soon. Frontman Peter Coyne gives us the full band history lesson, shares some killer newer tunes, tells touring stories, and even offers his tips for keeping those immaculate suits cl

Jun 30, 2021 • 1:14:34

Episode 320 - Marcella Detroit of Shakespear's Sister/Eric Clapton/Solo

Episode 320 - Marcella Detroit of Shakespear's Sister/Eric Clapton/Solo

When Shakespeare's Sister struck gold with their #1 hit "Stay" in 1992, what listeners may not have known is that singer Marcella Detroit had already put in 20 years of professional singing by then. Marcy Levy starts out in the early 70s singing with Bob Seger, then moves on to Leon Russell, and then Eric Clapton where she even co-wrote several of his songs including "Lay Down Sally". She eventually joins up with Bananarama's Siobhan Fahey for SS, but that's really a short chapter of her long ca

Jun 23, 2021 • 1:54:33

Episode 319 - Richard Jobson of the Skids

Episode 319 - Richard Jobson of the Skids

Dunfermline Scotland's Skids were local legends in the late 70s. Led by lead singer Richard Jobson and guitarist Stuart Adamson (later of Big Country, of course), the band kept their punk bona fides while also writing classic anthems like "Into the Valley" and "The Saints are Coming", songs that have only gotten bigger over the years. After three albums, Stuart left for bigger things, while Richard did a little of everything - the Armoury Show with John McGeoch, spoken word, acting, TV presentin

Jun 16, 2021 • 1:29:44

Episode 318 - Justin Currie of Del Amitri/Solo

Episode 318 - Justin Currie of Del Amitri/Solo

Del Amitri's Justin Currie doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best songwriters around. The fantastic Scottish band have been at it since the mid-80s, but didn't really find their voice until the early 90s and their commercial peak soon followed when "Roll To Me" became a top 10 hit. Justin has bounced between Del Amitri and solo albums for decades now, but the band is back together for their first album in many years, Fatal Mistakes. Justin and I get deep into the process of songwrit

Jun 9, 2021 • 1:48:18

Episode 317 - Tim Booth of James

Episode 317 - Tim Booth of James

When james are at their best hardly anyone can rival their mixture of ecstasy, passion, groove, and spirit. In this discussion with frontman Tim Booth you'll learn that isn't an accident. In fact, you may question whether "Pop Group" is too limiting a title for what james sets out to accomplish. And they've done it again with the release of their new album, All The Colours of You, this weekend. Once again they've tapped into the global sense of frustration and dismay to record a hopeful set of e

Jun 2, 2021 • 1:31:59

Bonus - John Scheinfeld - Director of "Sergio Mendes: In The Key of Joy"

Bonus - John Scheinfeld - Director of "Sergio Mendes: In The Key of Joy"

Noted rock doc director John Scheinfeld joins us this week to discuss his new outstanding documentary on the great Sergio Mendes, In The Key of Joy. John talks about what got him excited about making this particular film, why Sergio is an important figure, and what the music of Brazil means to him. We also discuss some of John's other documentaries on artists like John Lennon, Harry Nilsson, John Coltrane and Herb Alpert. Sergio Mendes: In The Key of Joy will have a full theatrical release later

May 31, 2021 • 59:07

Episode 316 - Martyn Ware of Heaven 17/Human League/B.E.F

Episode 316 - Martyn Ware of Heaven 17/Human League/B.E.F

Any list of synth pioneers would include the great Martyn Ware. He's basically devoted his life to seeing what that machine is capable of. He starts out in Sheffield forming the Human League with pals Ian Craig Marsh and Phil Oakey, but after two ambitious albums, the band splits. Phil stays put, but Martyn and Ian get with Glenn Gregory and form Heaven 17, birthing classics like "Let Me Go", "Temptation" and many others. Martyn's career as a producer is also taking off as he works with Terence

May 26, 2021 • 2:04:53

Episode 315 - Tony Hadley of Spandau Ballet/Solo

Episode 315 - Tony Hadley of Spandau Ballet/Solo

Throughout most of the world, Spandau Ballet were stadium fillers there for a while. They famously came out of the same club scene as friendly rivals Duran Duran and Ultravox, the lads were immediate trendsetters both in music and fashion. It all comes together in 1983 with the release of their third album, True, and the global title track smash. Success would continue to grow (though not so much in the States) for the rest of the 80s, including unforgettable appearances at both Live Aid and Ban

May 19, 2021 • 1:23:46

Episode 314 - Graham Parker

Episode 314 - Graham Parker

Graham Parker has been a master at his craft for so long, you probably think you have him figured out. You'd be wrong. Is he a cult artist? A punk? An angry young man? He says no. What he is, and this is indisputable, is one of the finest songwriters of all time. He even hilariously played up the image many have of him in Judd Apatow's film The Is 40 (he tells us the whole story on that one). This year he released another fine live album called Five Old Souls, which shows perfectly where GP is a

May 12, 2021 • 1:57:52

2021 Recap vol.1

2021 Recap vol.1

Jon and Jan discuss the first quarter of 2021, the stories and thoughts behind the episodes, what's happening in our personal lives, and we answer some listener mail.  www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

May 10, 2021 • 1:53:58

Episode 313 - HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY TO US with Little Steven Van Zandt

Episode 313 - HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY TO US with Little Steven Van Zandt

We celebrate our 6th year of podcasting this week by welcoming Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, award-winning actor, and decorated producer Little Steven Van Zandt! Steve has his hands in so many projects it's hard to cover them all - whether it's his Sirius radio stations, his multiple charities like teachrock.org, running his label Wicked Cool Records, backing up The Boss, or his own utterly fantastic solo career. As if that isn't enough, he's publishing his memoir, Unrequited Infatuations, in Sep

May 5, 2021 • 1:38:50

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Jim Steinman with Ellen Foley

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Jim Steinman with Ellen Foley

The music world lost a true one-of-a-kind recently with the death of the great Jim Steinman. He's probably best known for his work with Meat Loaf on Bat Out of Hell, but don't forget he also wrote legendary tracks like "Total Eclipse of the Heart", "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" and "It's All Coming Back to Me Now." We bring back singer Ellen Foley (ep78) who's breakout was duetting with Meat on "Paradise by the Dashboard Light". She recalls her time working with Jim and we discuss what an

Apr 29, 2021 • 30:29

Episode 312 - Michael Sadler of Saga

Episode 312 - Michael Sadler of Saga

Canada's Saga is proof that the country does some things better than the rest of us. That fantastic band has been merging prog rock with a solid tunefulness for 45 years now and show no signs of slowing down. This year they released a new album, Symmetry, which is an acoustic reimagining of many of their signature songs from their long career. What makes Symmetry special is that these aren't just scaled back versions - they've been given new life. Frontman Michael Sadler discusses the thought pr

Apr 27, 2021 • 1:18:45

Episode 311 - John Waite

Episode 311 - John Waite

John Waite has been blessed with one of the greatest voices in music. Whether he's belting killer rock tunes with the Babys or Bad English or his own solo work, putting his spin on blues and Americana on a lot of his albums the last 30 years, or bringing a ton of soul to ballads like his chart topping "Missing You", he always sounds perfect. These days he's recreating many of his songs acoustically on his Wooden Heart album series, which will soon add a third volume and come out as a box set. He

Apr 21, 2021 • 1:26:38

Book Club - Jeffrey Lee Campbell author of Do Stand So Close

Book Club - Jeffrey Lee Campbell author of Do Stand So Close

We're starting a new sidecast called Book Club where we will be inviting authors of great music-related books to discuss them with us.  Our first installment is with guitarist Jeffrey Lee Campbell who details the year he was plucked from obscurity and chosen to tour the world with Sting in Do Stand So Close. We learn how this even happened, what Sting is like to work for, and what life is like on the road. To change things up, joining me is my good friend Dave Carruth. We hope you enjoy these co

Apr 18, 2021 • 1:00:35

Episode 310 - John Davis: One of the real voices of Milli Vanilli

Episode 310 - John Davis: One of the real voices of Milli Vanilli

We all know the Milli Vanilli story. Have you ever wondered who really sang those songs? This week we welcome singer/songwriter John Davis, one of the actual voices for Milli Vanilli. John was an American living in Germany and working as a musician when he was picked by producer Frank Farian to sing for a project he was working on, only to later hear his voice coming out of Fab's mouth. John tells us the before, during, and after of the whole story, and we hear some of his own music, including h

Apr 14, 2021 • 59:22

Promo Mode - Ian Anderson Returns

Promo Mode - Ian Anderson Returns

Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson becomes our first three-time guest with this return to The Huste, and, as usual, the conversation doesn't go where you think it will. First of all, Ian has a book coming out this summer called Silent Singing which is a lyric book of all Tull and Ian solo songs and includes pictures, stories, etc. You can pre-order the book at the link below and get your name printed in it. In addition, The 40th Anniversary deluxe edition of Jethro Tull's album "A" comes out this month

Apr 11, 2021 • 1:00:37

Episode 309 - Gareth Jones

Episode 309 - Gareth Jones

Producer/Engineer/Mixer Gareth Jones didn't set out to be the "synth guy", but that didn't stop him from working closely with some of the greatest synth artists ever. First came John Foxx and his first solo album, the revolutionary Metamatic. Then came a string of legendary albums with Depeche Mode like Black Celebration and Some Great Reward. And lastly, he continues to work with Erasure and produced albums of theirs like Wild! and Cowboy. There have also been notable work with bands like Wire,

Apr 7, 2021 • 1:37:33

Deep Dive - Steve Stevens on Billy Idol's Rebel Yell (1983)

Deep Dive - Steve Stevens on Billy Idol's Rebel Yell (1983)

For this very special edition of Deep Dive we are honored to welcome back guitarist Steve Stevens to discuss one of the seminal rock albums of the 80s, Billy Idol's Rebel Yell. Steve and Billy created one of the classic rock albums ever and Steve lets us in on how the songs came together, how the input of producer Keith Forsey enhanced the album and what it meant to everyone's career. Rebel Yell was huge - to the people who made it and the people who heard it. Here's the full story.

Apr 5, 2021 • 1:26:41

Episode 308 - Stan Bush

Episode 308 - Stan Bush

You couldn't plan for Stan Bush's career if you tried. He came on strong in the early 80s as a rising rock singer, but he carved a niche for himself when he was featured on soundtracks for movies like Kickboxer, Bloodsport and, most famously, Transformers - The Movie in 1986 which featured his signature song "The Touch". Of course that song was resurrected a decade later when Dirk Diggler sang it to great effect in Boogie Nights. Stan has always delivered consistently strong AOR rock that feels

Mar 31, 2021 • 1:06:25

Episode 307 - Daniel Lanois

Episode 307 - Daniel Lanois

Super producer Daniel Lanois has just released the album of the year. This legendary record maker (U2, Peter Gabriel, Robbie Robertson, Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, Emmylou Harris, etc),  has created the music we all need right now with the just released Heavy Sun. Lanois mixes his masterful knack for atmosphere with his love of gospel music to create a healing gumbo for these tense times. In this conversation, Daniel explains his approach to producing, what musical project is getting him excited,

Mar 24, 2021 • 1:29:11

Bonus - Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad/Solo

Bonus - Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad/Solo

We're excited to put out a special bonus episode with former Grand Funk Railroad frontman Mark Farner! On April 6th Mark is releasing a brand new live DVD From Chili with Love featuring many GFR and solo hits and even a couple new tracks. This conversation is quite unique as we focus on things like the current state of the country and how many of his songs reflect it, his fitness regimen, what it was like working with Todd Rundgren, Ringo Starr and Frank Zappa, and his born again Christianity. H

Mar 22, 2021 • 1:06:02

Episode 306 - Will Sergeant of Echo & the Bunnymen

Episode 306 - Will Sergeant of Echo & the Bunnymen

This week we are honored to welcome one of the greatest and most underrated guitarists of all time, Echo & the Bunnymen's Will Sergeant! The first four Bunnymen albums are core to the foundation of the post-punk coming out of the UK in the early 80s. Hits like "The Killing Moon", "The Cutter", "Rescue" and many more will never ever die. After taking a break, Will and frontman Ian McCulloch reformed in the late 90s and have been going strong ever since. In this rare long form interview, Will give

Mar 16, 2021 • 1:35:51

Episode 305 - Phill Brown

Episode 305 - Phill Brown

Producer/engineer/mixer Phill Brown can say he was in the room when songs like "All Along the Watchtower", "Sympathy for the Devil", "Stairway to Heaven" and "I Shot the Sheriff" were recorded. He also worked with legends like Sly and the Family Stone, Bowie, Traffic (and Steve Winwood), and Roxy Music. Can you believe this? Two of his longest collaborations were with Robert Palmer on his first few albums and Talk Talk on their last few when they were inventing a new kind of music. He's written

Mar 10, 2021 • 2:57:45

Episode 304 - Jack Grisham of T.S.O.L.

Episode 304 - Jack Grisham of T.S.O.L.

Punk rock has produced some of music's greatest characters, but tops of all is probably TSOL frontman Jack Grisham. Jack was there for the band's first two albums Dance With Me and the game changing Beneath The Shadows before deciding to explore other genres and finding some success with The Joykiller in the 90s. He eventually returned to the fold and has been at the helm ever since. Jack talks openly about homelessness, sobriety, his marriages, the punk ethos, the books and movies he's created,

Mar 3, 2021 • 1:24:58

Deep Dive - Tris Imboden on Kenny Loggins' - Keep The Fire (1979)

Deep Dive - Tris Imboden on Kenny Loggins' - Keep The Fire (1979)

This week we welcome back drummer Tris Imboden to talk about Kenny Loggins's 1979 classic Keep The Fire! Tris was a member of the incredible band that recorded this beauty and that featured the Grammy winning smash "This Is It". Tris fills us in on how the songs came to be and what it was like working for him. Not to mention what the deal is with that cover! Enjoy!

Feb 27, 2021 • 1:38:55

Episode 303 - Bill Schnee

Episode 303 - Bill Schnee

This week is our first producer of 2021, 2x Grammy winning producer/engineer/mixer Bill Schnee! Bill was an integral part of creating the soft rock sound of the 70s that we think of thanks to his work with artists like Carly Simon, Art Garfunkel, Pablo Cruise and Leo Sayer. Not to mention the Grammys he won for engineering the Steely Dan albums, Aja and Gaucho. This legend releases his memoir next week - Chairman at the Board - and recounts some stories from his amazing career with us. Huey Lewi

Feb 24, 2021 • 2:28:33

Episode 302 - "The God of Hellfire" Arthur Brown

Episode 302 - "The God of Hellfire" Arthur Brown

Thanks to his Satanic masterpiece "Fire" from 1968, Arthur Brown will forever be known as "The God of Hellfire". That spine-tingling hit topped the charts all over the world and cemented his image as the banshee with fire on his head and paint on his face. But Arthur has been a musical explorer ever since making progressive music in the spirit of Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa one minute, but then an album made entirely on a drum machine or dedicated to dancing the next. We get into the inspi

Feb 17, 2021 • 1:09:49

Episode 301 - Wayne Hussey of The Mission

Episode 301 - Wayne Hussey of The Mission

Wayne Hussey's knack for writing deep, beautiful pop songs about struggles with the divine and a penchant for darkness are unlike anyone else. He has led his formidable band The Mission for over 35 years, giving a voice to the confused and unsure with songs like "Tower of Strength", Butterfly on a Wheel" and "Wasteland"among many others. Wayne discusses how his Mormon upbringing may have influenced his art, his short time in Dead Or Alive and Sisters Of Mercy, how he feels about being labeled "g

Feb 10, 2021 • 1:44:40

Episode 300 - Aldo Nova

Episode 300 - Aldo Nova

This week is the big 3-0-0!  Aldo Nova's career is an example of tenacity. He stormed out of the gates in 1982 with the self-titled debut and the huge hit "Fantasy" selling a couple million copies in the process. He eventually delivered the follow up, Subject... Aldo Nova, which was equally as strong, but did not move the same units and for the next 10 years he was forced to play catch up, including collaborations with Jon Bon Jovi, and loads of label interference that stifled his vision. Luckil

Feb 3, 2021 • 1:17:30

Episode 299 - Huw Gower of The Records/Solo

Episode 299 - Huw Gower of The Records/Solo

Who remembers the skinny tie, new wave power pop days of the late 70s? Over in the UK, a band called The Records were on that train and released the cult classic "Starry Eyes" in 1979. Guitarist Huw Gower bailed after one album though and immediately went to work with greats like David Johansen and Graham Parker among others. He has also released some stellar solo material over the years as well as many other projects. We talk with Huw about why he left the Records, what it was like working with

Jan 26, 2021 • 1:08:29

2020 Year in Review

2020 Year in Review

Jon and Jan look back on the ups and downs of the last year, recap the last three months, countdown their top 10 episodes of the year (as well as the listener’s), and answer some listener questions. Thanks everybody for the support this year. It hasn’t been easy but you all make it worth it. www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jan 25, 2021 • 2:26:31

Episode 298 - Iva Davies of Icehouse

Episode 298 - Iva Davies of Icehouse

In the US Icehouse may be best known for those two huge hits from 1987, "Crazy" and "Electric Blue", but back in their native Australia they're practically royalty. Mastermind Iva Davies has directed the band for over 40 years, consistently finding new shades and angles of alternative rock to explore. These days Iva gets to bask in the love and success he's built all these years Down Under, including recently releasing a new live album, Icehouse Plays Flowers Live to celebrate the 40th anniversa

Jan 20, 2021 • 1:58:23

Episode 297 - James Williamson of The Stooges/Solo

Episode 297 - James Williamson of The Stooges/Solo

Stooges guitarist (and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer) James Williamson's sludgy, greasy sound is uniquely his own. Plus, he was a perfect match and co-conspirator for Iggy Pop at just the right time when he took over for Ron Asheton on the Raw Power album and then partnered up with Iggy for a few more years, writing songs, and taking whatever record contracts they could get while totally strung out. James quickly left and forged a long and successful; career in Silicon Valley, not even touching a

Jan 13, 2021 • 1:18:53

Episode 296 - Stephen Perkins of Jane's Addiction/Porno For Pyros

Episode 296 - Stephen Perkins of Jane's Addiction/Porno For Pyros

Jane's Addiction might be the most influential and important band of the last 35 years. Think about it - did anyone bridge the alternative rock of the 80s with the grunge sound of the 90s better? They are the link in that transition. Hugely creative, fantastically musical, and tragically dysfunctional, their records may be few, but their power is enormous. Speaking of power, drummer Stephen Perkins joins us to share his philosophy on drumming, music, life, band dynamics and everything in between

Jan 5, 2021 • 1:33:32

Episode 295 - Clif Magness

Episode 295 - Clif Magness

We're ending 2020 the same way it began, by hearing from a fantastic and accomplished songwriter. Clif Magness has won a grammy, been nominated for an Oscar, and has had songs recorded by everyone from Barbra Streisand to Cheap Trick to Quincy Jones. But some of his biggest successes have been writing "All I Need" for Jack Wagner back in the 80s and working closely with Avril Lavigne on her debut album. He's also found time to release a couple excellent solo albums which you'll want to check out

Dec 30, 2020 • 1:50:48

Episode 294 - Leigh Nash of Sixpence None the Richer/Solo

Episode 294 - Leigh Nash of Sixpence None the Richer/Solo

It's Christmastime and it felt right to share our conversation with the lovely Leigh Nash of Sixpence None the Richer! Of course SIxpence broke through big when their third album in 1997 launched "Kiss Me" into the public consciousness where it would remain embedded forever and ever and the band has released music when the mood hit them ever since. Along the way, Leigh has forged her own solo path, including the wonderful EP Get Happy, released earlier this year. Leigh and I discuss the whole ca

Dec 23, 2020 • 1:16:21

Bonus - Director Jon Brewer on Chuck Berry: The Original King of Rock 'N'  Roll

Bonus - Director Jon Brewer on Chuck Berry: The Original King of Rock 'N' Roll

We are welcoming back rock doc director Jon Brewer to discuss his recent documentary “Chuck Berry: The Original King of Rock and Roll”. Chuck is on the Mt Rushmore of rock but is also s complicated person. Jon and I discuss the good and bad sides of the man and his legacy. We also are giving away two copies of the Blu-ray so join Patreon to be in the running. Enjoy!   www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Dec 20, 2020 • 55:36

Episode 293 - Andy Kyriacou of Modern Romance

Episode 293 - Andy Kyriacou of Modern Romance

I can't think of another band quite like Modern Romance. They came out of the Blitz scene in the early 80s with bands like Duran Duran, Ultravox and Spandau Ballet and originally sounded like lesser versions of those guys. On their third single, "Everybody Salsa", they adopted big Latin rhythms and stumbled on a unique new sound and a bunch of hits followed - "Best Years of Our Lives", "Ay Ay Ay Moosey" and more. Soon after styles and band members changed and the band called it quits. In 1999 or

Dec 16, 2020 • 1:15:20

Episode 292 - Tim Palmer

Episode 292 - Tim Palmer

We close out our recent producer series by talking to the fantastic Tim Palmer! Tim's career goes back 40 years and includes everyone from Ozzy to Kajagoogoo to Heatwave. We hear amazing stories about his time with artists like Tin Machine, Pearl Jam, Dead or Alive, Robert Plant, Tears for Fears, U2, Psychedelic Furs and many others. Tim is still very active today, in fact a recent production of his couldn't be more important. Wayne Hussey of The Mission put together an all-star group of music l

Dec 9, 2020 • 2:33:39

Podcaster Panel: Christmas

Podcaster Panel: Christmas

Tis the season! Jon and Jan are joined by friends Ben Montgomery from the Records Revisited podcast and Jon's buddy, regular, podcast-less civilian, Dave Carruth to discuss Christmas music, but also movies, traditions, etc. Hot topics are debated like whether "Wonderful Christmastime" and "Last Christmas" are good or bad, whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie, and a number of other hot takes. We also countdown our top 3 Christmas songs/albums ever. And listen to the intro and outro songs provide

Dec 7, 2020 • 1:48:35

Episode 291 - Melissa Manchester

Episode 291 - Melissa Manchester

Don't we all miss the 70s? That golden era of soulful singer-songwriters left an impression that has never been replicated and high among them is the great Melissa Manchester. After 50 years in the business, Melissa keeps getting better releasing material in the 2000s that's easily as good as her peak 70s period. We talk openly about her journey, how the glory of the 70s led to the gloss of the 80s that completely changed her sound before the 90s passed her by almost entirely. We also talk about

Dec 2, 2020 • 1:47:01

Deep Dive - Gunnar Nelson on Nelson's After the Rain (1990)

Deep Dive - Gunnar Nelson on Nelson's After the Rain (1990)

For this Deep Dive we are welcoming Gunnar Nelson to tell us the full story behind the Nelson's blockbuster debut album After the Rain. Few rock albums from that era stand the test of time like this one, helped by several smash hits like "More Than Ever" and "Can't Live Without Your) Love and Affection". Gunnar tells us how he and Matthew wrote the songs, the obstacles they had to overcome to release it and make it a hit, and much more. Gunnar's honesty and passion is infectious. Enjoy!  www.mat

Nov 30, 2020 • 1:56:00

Episode 290 - Terry Manning

Episode 290 - Terry Manning

Producer Terry Manning is a Jack of All Trades and Master of Many! Starting out as a pre-teen in Texas, Terry went on to work with everyone from Led Zeppelin to Otis Redding to Bjork and many more in between. After a long relationship with ZZ Top he produced their breakthrough Eliminator and from there was hired to bring similar success to acts like George Thorogood and the Fabulous Thunderbirds. His time at Stax and Ardent Studios brought time with Big Star, Al Green and Isaac Hayes and while r

Nov 25, 2020 • 2:36:02

Episode 289 - Steve Stevens

Episode 289 - Steve Stevens

Steve Stevens and Billy Idol are a pair that goes together like Marr and Morrissey, like Plant and Page, like Scott and Adams, like Pirroni and Ant... you get the idea. This power duo has created some of the most indelible songs and styles of the last 40 years with Steve's identifiable guitar leading the way. In this chat we learn some of the stories behind their dynamic, the albums, his solo work, and our thoughts on the passing of Eddie Van Halen (news broke about 15 mins before the interview)

Nov 18, 2020 • 1:19:03

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Tony Lewis of the Outfield with William Wittman

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Tony Lewis of the Outfield with William Wittman

The loss of the Outfield's Tony Lewis recently really stings. The Outfield were a consistently excellent band that deserved more and Tony's incredible voice paired with the late John Spink's songwriting was a match made in heaven. To honor Tony we bring back former guest producer William Wittman (ep 215) who did their first two, and biggest, albums, Play Deep and Bangin'. And go back and listen to our interview with Tony himself (ep 164). He's the best.

Nov 14, 2020 • 29:33

Episode 288 - Nick Launay

Episode 288 - Nick Launay

Nick Launay started his career when still in his teens and when John Lyden picked (forced?) him to produce PiL's "Flowers of Romance" in 1981 he was off and running. His resume includes greats like Killing Joke, Talking Heads, Semisonic and even recent albums from Arcade Fire, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and Yeah Yeah Yeahs. I planned to cover these amd many more in our conversation, but instead we went deep on a few - INXS (he produced The Swing), Midnight Oil, The Church, Nick Cave, Silverchai

Nov 11, 2020 • 2:53:33

Episode 287 - Richard Barone of the Bongos/Solo

Episode 287 - Richard Barone of the Bongos/Solo

The Bongos were one of those great early 80s American indie bands, like Violent Femmes or the db's. After having some success and creating a rabid grassroots fanbase, frontman Richard Barone went solo and has had a fulfilling musical career ever since doing whatever he wants. Imagine growing up with people like Lou Reed, Andy Warhol and Tony Visconti as your heroes and then actually befriending and working with them! Richard's is a fascinating story of the power of glam rock, shape-shifting, sex

Nov 4, 2020 • 1:31:32

Bonus - Andy Ross discusses "The Fear Engine"

Bonus - Andy Ross discusses "The Fear Engine"

Producer/Musician Andy Ross has been in music his entire life. He's served as a session musician, a member of the band Immaculate Fools, and a producer working with artists like Howard Jones. His dad even gave saxophone lessons to a young David Bowie! Andy's just released a hugely ambitious and excellent album The Fear Engine. The album, and the accompanying documentary, explores why people behave the way they do by asking big questions like Why do people lie?, Why do people fear failure?, Why d

Nov 2, 2020 • 1:31:05

Episode 286 - John Fryer

Episode 286 - John Fryer

Producer John Fryer was instrumental in honing the sound of some of the 80s most inventive groups. While working at Blackwing Studios and largely with the 4AD label, his list of accomplishments includes albums by Depeche Mode, Yaz, Cocteau Twins, Fad Gadget, Peter Murphy and many others with the mother of all being Nine Inch Nails' debut Pretty Hate Machine. Over the years he's devoted time to his own musical projects as well and his latest is Black Needle Noise which sounds just like you would

Oct 28, 2020 • 1:37:12

Deep Dive - Martin Page on Maurice White (1985)

Deep Dive - Martin Page on Maurice White (1985)

For this Deep Dive we welcome back a favorite of ours, songwriter Martin Page (ep30)! On top of the great songs Martin's written in his career, back in 1985 he was hand-picked by Earth Wind and Fire mastermind Maurice White to oversee his first solo album. Even though the songs are just as strong as what EWF would have put out, the album underperformed and remains fairly obscure to this day. Martin talks about what it was collaborating with this genius and how he approached the songs he wrote. W

Oct 26, 2020 • 1:44:41

Episode 285 - Frankie Sullivan of Survivor

Episode 285 - Frankie Sullivan of Survivor

Survivor were one of the key rock bands of the 80s. They either defined the sound of the era, or produced some of the finest music that era had to offer. And with hits like "High On You", "Can't Hold Back", and a dozen others including the enduring "Eye of the Tiger" the band's legacy is immortal. Co-founder and guitarist Frankie Sullivan tells us the stories behind many of the hits, including the full story of "Tiger", what it's like working with former guest Ron Nevison, the underappreciated i

Oct 21, 2020 • 1:42:26

Promo Mode - Andrew Farriss discusses his new EP Love Makes the World

Promo Mode - Andrew Farriss discusses his new EP Love Makes the World

INXS's Andrew Farriss returns to the show to discuss his new EP, Love Makes The World. As we learned in July, Andrew has been readying a country album, but when Covid hit it became fuzzy what the result of this project would be. Love Makes The World is an excellent 5-song album that includes his latest single, "All The Stars Are Mine." Andrew details the thinking behind the release and what to expect next.  www.andrewfarriss.com www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Oct 17, 2020 • 20:38

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Eddie Van Halen with Marq Torien

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Eddie Van Halen with Marq Torien

We lost another legend. Eddie Van Halen was one of the greatest and most influential guitarists of all time. To discuss his life and the impact he had on music we brought back BulletBoys frontman Marq Torien (ep151). Not only did those bands share a producer in Ted Templeman, the BBoys were heavily influenced by Van Halen and were championed by them early on. Marq tells us what Eddie meant to him and where he ranks in rock history.

Oct 14, 2020 • 41:09

Episode 284 - Youth of Killing Joke/The Orb/The Fireman

Episode 284 - Youth of Killing Joke/The Orb/The Fireman

Producer/Musician Youth is one of the most creative and innovative musical minds of the last 40 years. Starting out as the bassist in pioneering doom rock band Killing Joke, he left after three albums and went on to become one of the most important dance music producers the UK has ever created when he formed The Orb and brought genres like trance and dub to the forefront. He also produced landmark albums by Crowded House, The Verve, james, Embrace, Echo and the Bunnymen, U2, Pink Floyd, Paul McC

Oct 14, 2020 • 1:49:55

Recap 2020 v.3

Recap 2020 v.3

Months continue feeling more like years, but it's still time for another check-in. Jon and Jan recap the last three month's worth of episodes, announce a cd giveaway, play an important brand new song by a former guest, and answer some listener questions.  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2g6lorn72wqze12/AABvUFN5R7BeFJiGnyBk9sKKa?dl=0

Oct 11, 2020 • 2:16:07

Episode 283 - Peter Cox of Go West/Solo

Episode 283 - Peter Cox of Go West/Solo

Many, including me, consider Go West frontman Peter Cox one of the greatest blue-eyed soul singers the UK has ever produced. With musical partner Richard Drummie, Go West competed in the synth pop genre well in the 80s with hits like "We Close Our Eyes" and the gigantic "King of Wishful Thinking". But that partnership, like many others, needed a break so Peter went on to have an excellent and varied solo career touching on blues, rock and even country, that continues to this day while also touri

Oct 7, 2020 • 1:45:26

Episode 282 - Mickey Curry of Bryan Adams/Hall & Oates

Episode 282 - Mickey Curry of Bryan Adams/Hall & Oates

We close out our series of big time drummers with the great Mickey Curry! Like the others, Mickey has done a lot of fun things that we talk about, but two of his biggest partnerships have been with Hall & Oates and Bryan Adams. We go deep on both artists, his favorite moments and contributions like Live Aid and others. In addition, we discuss his playing with The Cult, Steve Winwood, Carly Simon, Rpy Orbison, Dion and Tom Waits. What is abundantly clear is that Mickey's career has lasted so long

Sep 30, 2020 • 1:53:58

Episode 281 - Tris Imboden of Chicago/Kenny Loggins

Episode 281 - Tris Imboden of Chicago/Kenny Loggins

We continue our series on big time drummers by hearing from Tris Imboden! Until a couple years ago Tris spent decades holding it down for Chicago, but before that he also spent many years with Kenny Loggins. In our conversation we hear what it was like collaborating with both of those greats, including his thoughts on recording "Footloose", as well as what he's doing now after abruptly leaving Chicago. Along the way he also worked with Al Jarreau, Anita Baker, Fee Waybill and Richard Marx. We al

Sep 23, 2020 • 1:41:21

Deep Dive - David Newton on The Mighty Lemon Drops' World Without End (1988)

Deep Dive - David Newton on The Mighty Lemon Drops' World Without End (1988)

Mighty Lemon Drops guitarist and principle songwriter David Newton returns to the pod to tell us all about the creation of the band's 1988 breakthrough second album World Without End. This album launched them to the national stage thanks to the fantastic single "Inside Out" and solidified them as a band to take seriously. In addition, David's new project Thee Mighty Angels, just released their debut album A Gateway to a Lifetime of Disappointment which is a fantastic dollop of Brit Pop. Enjoy!

Sep 21, 2020 • 1:24:26

Episode 280 - Russ Kunkel

Episode 280 - Russ Kunkel

This week we close out our series going deep on the careers of the Immediate Family by hearing from legendary drummer Russ Kunkel. Like the others, Russ's career goes back 50 years when he took off playing with James Taylor, Carole King, and the like. In this conversation we dive into his collaborations with artists like Bill Withers, Jimmy Buffett, Dan Fogelberg, Crosby Stills & Nash and many others. The Family has just released their second single "Slippin' and Slidin'" and their new EP of the

Sep 16, 2020 • 1:33:49

Episode 279 - Ryan Hedgecock of Lone Justice

Episode 279 - Ryan Hedgecock of Lone Justice

Lone Justice had all the potential in the world, but ended up more of a cautionary tale. They had a charismatic lead singer with Maria McKee, a big time producer in Jimmy Iovine, the backing of a major label and contributions from Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Little Steven, and many more.The problem is none of these people knew what to do with their hybrid of classic country and punk leaving Lone Justice to fall as soon as they rose.  Founder Ryan Hedgecock tells his story passionately and compellingly

Sep 9, 2020 • 1:30:40

Deep Dive - Clive Langer on Madness (1983)

Deep Dive - Clive Langer on Madness (1983)

We are honored to bring back producer Clive Langer to discuss the wonderful Madness! When "Our House" hit big in the states in 1983, the record label released this self-titled compilation to introduce them to the American market and show what Madness was all about.. This was also one of the first records Jon ever owned and Madness were instrumental to the young Jon and Jan's upbringing. Clive gives us a peak behind the curtain of working with the "Nutty Boys", the dynamic among the guys, and the

Sep 6, 2020 • 1:16:21

Episode 278 - Andy Richards

Episode 278 - Andy Richards

Andy Richards started out as a classical pianist, but being discovered by Trevor Horn in the early 80s changed all that. He went to work at SARM studios where he played on albums by Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Propaganda. He began getting calls to play on albums/songs by everyone from Wham ("Careless Whisper"), Chris DeBurgh ("Lady in Red"), Rush, Pet Shop Boys, Liza Minelli, Billy Squier, OMD, Seal, Grace Jones, Nik Kershaw, Prefab Sprout, Berlin, and producing artists like Corey Hart, Dusty

Sep 2, 2020 • 2:07:09

Deep Dive - Nick Van Eede on Cutting Crew's The Scattering (1989)

Deep Dive - Nick Van Eede on Cutting Crew's The Scattering (1989)

Cutting Crew frontman Nick Van Eede returns to the pod to deep dive the band's problematic second album, The Scattering from 1989. Die hard fans love this album, but it was met with indifference upon its release and didn't reach the heights of the debut. Nick tells us about the challenges of making the album and why he's proud of it. We also discuss the new Crew album, Ransomed Healed Restored Forgiven, which features versions of classic Cutting Crew songs played with an orchestra. We hope you r

Aug 31, 2020 • 1:17:38

Episode 277 - Tanya Donelly of Belly/Throwing Muses/The Breeders/Solo

Episode 277 - Tanya Donelly of Belly/Throwing Muses/The Breeders/Solo

Tanya Donelly is a pioneer. She was a founding member of three of the most important female-fronted indie rock bands in history - Throwing Muses (with her step-sister Kristin Hersh), the Breeders (with Kim Deal), and her own Belly. She's also forged a successful solo career that includes her latest album, a collaboration with the Parkington Sisters that is a fantastic covers album. We go deep on how she selected the covers to record, why she left each of those bands, what it was like being signe

Aug 26, 2020 • 1:19:06

Deep Dive - Steve Thompson on John Lennon and Yoko Ono's Milk and Honey (1984)

Deep Dive - Steve Thompson on John Lennon and Yoko Ono's Milk and Honey (1984)

Seven-time Grammy winning producer/engineer/mixer Steve Thompson returns to the show to deep dive the posthumous release from John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Milk and Honey from 1984. Made up of half Yoko songs and half songs John was working on when he was murdered, the album features his last hit "Nobody Told Me". Steve discusses his work on the album and his relationship with John and Yoko, but also music in general. Steve is one of a kind and always great to hear from!   www.patreon.com/thehustlep

Aug 24, 2020 • 1:22:34

Episode 276 - Leland Sklar

Episode 276 - Leland Sklar

Immediate Family bassist Lee Sklar is one of the most recorded musicians of the rock era. Like the other members, Lee earned his bona fides playing with people like James Taylor, Linda Ronstadt and Jackson Browne, but his longest and tightest collaboration has likely been with Phil Collins. We talk a lot about working with Phil and the songs Lee's especially proud of. In addition, there are stories involving Hall & Oates, Lyle Lovett, Paul Williams, and a bunch of other fun stuff.  And do yourse

Aug 19, 2020 • 1:53:18

Deep Dive - Bob Rock on The Cult's Sonic Temple (1989)

Deep Dive - Bob Rock on The Cult's Sonic Temple (1989)

We are extremely honored to welcome back producer Bob Rock to deep dive The Cult's 1989 breakthrough album Sonic Temple. We learn all about Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy's mindframe when they created it, how Bob achieved the sound they were looking for, how classic songs like "Fire Woman" and "Edie (Ciao Baby)" came to be, and how the Cult relate to other Bob Rock affiliated bands like Metallica, Motley Crue and Bon Jovi. We are so lucky to hear from legends like Bob. Enjoy!  www.patreon.com/thehu

Aug 17, 2020 • 1:23:04

Episode 275 - Victor DeLorenzo of Violent Femmes/Nineteen Thirteen

Episode 275 - Victor DeLorenzo of Violent Femmes/Nineteen Thirteen

Has anyone managed to pass through puberty without being slipped a copy of the Violent Femmes' debut album from 1983? It's become a rite of passage - every generation passes it down to the next. This week we talk to original drummer Victor DeLorenzo about his time in the band (he left many years ago), how they found their name and style, the album covers, his acting career, and his current musical project Nineteen Thirteen which is him and cellist Janet Schiff. He also released a new ep this yea

Aug 12, 2020 • 1:15:35

Episode 274 - Thor

Episode 274 - Thor

This week is heavy metal cult hero Thor! After Jon Mikl won buckets of bodybuilding championships all over North America, he decided to enter showbiz and took on the Thor persona nearly 50 years ago (imagine He-Man as a rock star). Combining his love of hard rock, comic books, superheroes, and performance art, Thor put on eye-catching live shows where he'd blow up hot water bottles and bend steel. He's still at it today (although with fewer props) and in 2016 an entertaining documentary was made

Aug 5, 2020 • 1:03:00

Bonus - Jeff Healey with Cristie Hall Healey and Roger Costa

Bonus - Jeff Healey with Cristie Hall Healey and Roger Costa

In this very special bonus episode we look back at the life and career of Canadian guitar legend Jeff Healey. We're joined by his widow Cristie Hall Healey and one of his best friend's Roger Costa, Co-Administrators/Archivists for the Estate of Jeff Healey, to talk about the glory days with the Jeff Healey Band, filming Road House, his transition to jazz trumpet in the late 2000s and what's in the pipeline for re-releases. This is a unique glimpse into a fantastic artist that was gone too soon.

Aug 3, 2020 • 1:17:51

Episode 273 - Graham Russell of Air Supply

Episode 273 - Graham Russell of Air Supply

In 2020 Air Supply's dynamic duo of vocalist Russell Hitchcock and guitarist/songwriter Graham Russell are celebrating 45 years together. And in that time they've recorded many of the most immortal ballads in pop music like "All Out of Love," "Lost in Love,"  and "Even the Nights are Better." What sometimes gets lost is that these guys did more than just these soft rock staples. Graham Russell discusses the stories behind some of the hits, his love of dance music and writing for the theater, tho

Jul 28, 2020 • 1:03:33

Recap 2020 v.2

Recap 2020 v.2

Jon and Jan recap the second quarter of 2020, how the last three months feel like three years thanks to Covid, the former guests we've lost this year, and give our thoughts on the last three months worth of shows.    https://www.patreon.com/thehustlepod

Jul 27, 2020 • 2:08:22

Episode 272 - Waddy Wachtel

Episode 272 - Waddy Wachtel

This week is another member of the Immediate Family, legendary session guitarist, producer and songwriter Waddy Wachtel! Like the others, Waddy has been in the business for almost 50 years and played with everyone you can think of. In here we talk about his early days with the Everly Brothers and his time with Stevie Nicks, Keith Richards, Adam Sandler and Warren Zevon (including co-writing "Werewolves of London"). We also learn about his memorable guitar work in classic tunes like "Oh Sherrie"

Jul 22, 2020 • 1:38:49

Deep Dive - Fee Waybill on The Tubes' The Completion Backward Principle (1981)

Deep Dive - Fee Waybill on The Tubes' The Completion Backward Principle (1981)

We are welcoming back maybe our favorite guest ever, the one and only Fee Waybill! Fee returns to deep dive the Tubes' breakthrough album from 1981 The Completion Backward Principle. We hear what it was like working with producer David Foster, why this was a make or break album for the band, and how hits like "Talk To Ya Later" and "I Don't Want to Wait Anymore" were created. Fee also has a fantastic new solo album called Fee Waybill Rides Again that was produced by his buddy Richard Marx, so we

Jul 20, 2020 • 2:00:41

Promo Mode - Jay Graydon discusses the famous "E" Electric Keyboard (and a bunch of other stuff)

Promo Mode - Jay Graydon discusses the famous "E" Electric Keyboard (and a bunch of other stuff)

Musicians, keyboardists, gearheads, lend us your ears! Jay Graydon is back to tell us the story of the famous E Electric Piano which was a sought after session instrument in the early 80s and how it's been sampled and is now for sale. He also discusses a new Youtube channel is starting where he will share tricks of the trade and we hear stories about David Foster, Ray Parker Jr. his approach to production, guitars, perfect pitch, and a million other things. Get to know how the mind of a musical

Jul 18, 2020 • 1:15:35

Episode 271 - Jay Graydon

Episode 271 - Jay Graydon

Jay Graydon is one of rock's most wildly successful multi-hyphenates. He was a first call session guitarist in LA for most of the 70s with one of his biggest claims to fame being the solo on Steely Dan's "Peg". He also wrote huge hits for artists like DeBarge, George Benson, and Earth, Wind and Fire, formed the fantastic, but short-lived band Airplay with burgeoning mega-producer David Foster, and then he produced huge albums by Al Jarreau, Patti LaBelle and Kenny Rogers. Not to mention, if you'

Jul 15, 2020 • 2:28:33

Episode 270 - Andrew Farriss of INXS

Episode 270 - Andrew Farriss of INXS

For my money, INXS are one of the greatest bands in rock history. To have recorded that many pop/rock masterpieces is an absolute miracle. As we all know, they were cut short with the death of Michael Hutchence and each member has picked up the pieces in various ways ever since. Co-founder Andrew Farriss was, along with Michael, the main songwriter of those classic jams and he's now dipped his foot in the Country genre. Listen to songs like "Good Mama Bad" and "Come Midnight" to see for yourself

Jul 8, 2020 • 1:47:11

Deep Dive - Robin Campbell on UB40's For The Many (2019)

Deep Dive - Robin Campbell on UB40's For The Many (2019)

We are honored to bring back UB40 founding member Robin Campbell to talk about the band's latest album For The Many from 2019. This highly political piece of work is a perfect look at our current time in history and expresses the frustrations of many of us living in this turbulent period. UB40 have always had a knack for expressing the feelings of the politically oppressed and For The Many continues that tradition. It's their best album in decades and we need it now more than ever.  www.patreon.

Jul 5, 2020 • 1:26:02

Episode 269 - Chris Hughes

Episode 269 - Chris Hughes

Producer Chris Hughes has been behind the boards for some very important music, but you wouldn't have guessed it if you go back to the beginning. Chris started out as the drummer in Adam and the Ants. That burundi sound that made Adam so special? That was Chris! He began producing the early Adam albums which lead to other high-profile gigs like Tears For Fears' The Hurting and Songs From the Big Chair, Wang Chung, Howard Jones, Red Box, Ric Ocasek, Paul McCartney, Robert Plant and Peter Gabriel.

Jul 1, 2020 • 2:01:29

Deep Dive - Derry Grehan on Honeymoon Suite's The Big Prize (1986)

Deep Dive - Derry Grehan on Honeymoon Suite's The Big Prize (1986)

Guitarist Derry Grehen of Canada's Honeymoon Suite returns to Deep Dive the band's 1986 breakthrough album The Big Prize. This fantastic piece of work deservedly brought them a lot of success on the back of killer tracks like "Feel It Again," "Bad Attitude," and "What Does It Take." We also talk about how Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull ended up in the mix! The Big Prize is honestly one of the best AOR albums of the 80s and deserves to be included in more conversations! And check out the band's new

Jun 29, 2020 • 1:15:42

Episode 268 - Suzi Quatro

Episode 268 - Suzi Quatro

Suzi Quatro is the original rock chick and a stone-cold legend. She's currently celebrating 50 years in the rock world and finally getting her due as the pioneer that she is. This legacy makes her the perfect subject of an incredible new documentary on her life called Suzi Q. The film details her early years as a teenager singing with her sisters in Detroit, her global rise (though not in the States) as a glam rocker with hits like "Can The Can", "Devil Gate Drive" and "Stumblin' In", and her va

Jun 23, 2020 • 57:23

Deep Dive - Alan Shacklock on Roger Daltrey's Under a Raging Moon (1985)

Deep Dive - Alan Shacklock on Roger Daltrey's Under a Raging Moon (1985)

This week we welcome back one of our most entertaining guests, producer Alan Shacklock to deep dive Roger Daltrey of The Who's solo album from 1985, Under a Raging Moon. This chat includes stories like how bandmate Pete Townshend came to write the hit song "After the Fire", how songwriters like Jim Vallance and John Parr got involved, and how the epic title track, a tribute to Keith Moon that featured many of the greatest drummers of all time like Stewart Copeland, Roger Taylor, Martin Chambers,

Jun 22, 2020 • 1:42:54

Episode 267 - Danny Kortchmar

Episode 267 - Danny Kortchmar

Danny Kortchmar has built a wildly successful career that has lasted over 50 years. This career has included playing guitar for legends like his childhood friend James Taylor, Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne and Carole King. It has also included producing people like Don Henley, Ivan Neville, Billy Joel, and Jon Bon Jovi. And, lastly, there was songwriting for artists like Hall & Oates and John Waite. Today, he's joined with other legendary session guys - Leland Sklar, Russ Kunkel, Waddy Wachtel

Jun 17, 2020 • 2:05:52

Bonus - Steve Postell of the Immediate Family

Bonus - Steve Postell of the Immediate Family

Some of the greatest session musicians in history have come together to form the hottest supergroup in the land - The Immediate Family. Made up of legends Lee Sklar on bass, Russ Kunkel on drums, and Waddy Wachtel, Danny Kortchmar and today's guest Steve Postell on guitar. Their first single, "Cruel Twist" drops today! To kick things off, Steve tells us how the band came together and how he, as the "new guy", joined the fray. We also discuss his career as a popular session guy in the NYC scene a

Jun 12, 2020 • 54:16

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Rupert Hine with Duncan Sheik

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Rupert Hine with Duncan Sheik

When someone we love passes away we do our best to pay tribute to them by having a discussion with a former guest that knows them. With the surprising passing of Rupert Hine we invited back Duncan Sheik to discuss his work with Rupert and our thoughts on his career. Please take a minute to enjoy the work of Rupert Hine by playing something wonderful that he worked on!

Jun 11, 2020 • 33:32

Episode 266 - Shelly Yakus

Episode 266 - Shelly Yakus

Engineer Shelly Yakus is famous for having some of the "best ears in the business." And these ears have served him well for over 50 years. John Lennon's "Imagine"? That's him. BOC's "Don't Fear the Reaper"? Him too. Benchmark albums like Moondance, Berlin, Music From Big Pink and Rattle and Hum all pass through Shelly Yakus. Some of his greatest work might have been with Tom Petty, like Damn the Torpedoes, another Shelly project. We discuss all of these as well as Stevie Nicks, Bob Seger, the Ra

Jun 10, 2020 • 1:41:35

Bonus - Nick Niespodziani of Yacht Rock Revue

Bonus - Nick Niespodziani of Yacht Rock Revue

What's it like being the frontman for the most popular cover band working today? Does it provide a nice life? Is it artistically fulfilling? These are some of the questions discussed with Nick Niespodziani, lead singer for the mighty Yacht Rock Revue. Nick discusses how a mid-life crisis birthed their new album of original, yachty, material called Hot Dads in Tight Jeans and how his band's success has eclipsed some of the bands they cover! We also countdown his top 5 yacht rock songs, and discus

Jun 7, 2020 • 1:03:02

Episode 265 - Shelly Peiken

Episode 265 - Shelly Peiken

Songwriter Shelly Peiken could be considered the "Queen of the Woman Empowerment Anthem." She's written tons of songs for tons of artists - everyone from Britney and Celine to Miley and Brandy. But her two biggest anthems are also her biggest hits - "What a Girl Wants" by Christina Aguilera and "Bitch" by Meredith Brooks. These days she's taking matters into her own hands as she prepares to release her first solo album, 2.0 etc in August. She also wrote a fantastic book about all of it called Co

Jun 3, 2020 • 1:32:59

Deep Dive - Phil Spalding on GTR (1986)

Deep Dive - Phil Spalding on GTR (1986)

For our next Deep Dive we invited back bassist Phil Spalding (ep 48) to discuss his time in the short-lived super group GTR. The self-titled album from 1986 is the one and only document of the partnership between legendary guitarists Steve Howe and Steve Hackett. They both brought their prog rock bona fides from Yes and Genesis and mixed it with killer pop rock resulting in the surprising hit "When the Heart Rules the Mind". Phil explains the history of the band, how the album came to be, and wh

May 31, 2020 • 1:17:25

Episode 264 - Graham Maby

Episode 264 - Graham Maby

We close out this series on Joe Jackson by chatting with his longest musical partner, bassist Graham Maby. Graham and Joe go back to the beginning and Graham has been present for most of Joe's many musical projects over the years. From "Is She Really Going Out With Him", to the symphonies, to Joe's last album Fool from 2019. What is it about Graham that makes Joe want him around more than anyone else? What is the dynamic of their relationship? We explore these questions as well as his time outsi

May 27, 2020 • 1:39:48

Bonus - Jon and Georgia Do Another Countdown

Bonus - Jon and Georgia Do Another Countdown

Jon's daughter Georgia makes her triumphant return to the podcast, as this time the pair countdown the top 5 songs they introduced to each other. So, Jon's picks are the cool, new songs you might hear on the radio, and Georgia's are the classics she's been force-fed her whole life. Either way, there's great music here!

May 22, 2020 • 1:06:46

Episode 263 - Gary Sanford, Vinnie Zummo and Tom Teeley: The Guitarists of Joe Jackson

Episode 263 - Gary Sanford, Vinnie Zummo and Tom Teeley: The Guitarists of Joe Jackson

Joe Jackson is one of the most creative and complicated artists of the last 50 years. He never stays in one place for long, always wiggling out of one genre and into another. This week we attempt to tell part of the JJ story through the perspectives of his first three guitarists. Gary Sanford was there at the beginning and played on the first three albums that launched Joe's career. Vinnie Zummo took over after the "no guitars", Night and Day era that brought him fame. And then Tom Teeley droppe

May 20, 2020 • 3:09:01

Deep Dive - Mike Lindup on Level 42 (1981)

Deep Dive - Mike Lindup on Level 42 (1981)

Our most popular guest ever, Level 42's Mike Lindup, returns to Deep Dive the band's debut self-titled album from 1981. We discuss the formation of the band, how the songs and performances came together including classics like "Love Games" and "Starchild," and how they found their signature sound. Level 42 went on to release several classic albums, but it all started here and remains close to Mike's heart, as well as the fan's.

May 17, 2020 • 1:37:12

Episode 262 - Miles Hunt of The Wonder Stuff

Episode 262 - Miles Hunt of The Wonder Stuff

The Wonder Stuff are one of those fantastic bands that only the UK can produce. And leader Miles Hunt is a personality few can rival. Honest, opinionated, and incredibly cheeky, Miles is the complete package. Sometimes that wit has gotten him in some trouble, but today he says he's a changed man. We discuss the height of Wonder Stuff fame, the new album Better Being Lucky, and hits like "Welcome to the Cheap Seats", "A Wish Away", "Mission Drive" and many others. We also get some unfiltered deta

May 13, 2020 • 1:32:51

Bonus - Doug Clifford of CCR on his new solo album Magic Window

Bonus - Doug Clifford of CCR on his new solo album Magic Window

The coolest thing happened to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame drummer Doug "Cosmo" Clifford recently. While tooling around in his garage he found the master tapes to a solo album he recorded in 1985! When he gave the tapes a listen, he really liked what he heard, so he polished them up and released them last month. The album, called Magic Window, is a great rock record from the era and points the way to a possible solo career that never quite materialized. In this conversation we learn how it all hap

May 11, 2020 • 1:09:30

Podcaster Panel: Rock Books

Podcaster Panel: Rock Books

Last week we covered Rock Docs so this week we're sharing our round table discussion on Rock Books. For this we've invited more of our fellow podcasting brethren - BJ Kramp of the Rock and/or Roll podcast, Lane Hewitt of the Melody Motel pod, and Bakko from Cobras and Fire. We debate the good ones, the bad ones, audiobooks, biographies vs. autobiographies, and we countdown our top three recommendations. Hopefully these chats make your quarantining a little more bearable. And these are such rich

May 7, 2020 • 1:48:24

Episode 261 - HAPPY 5th BIRTHDAY TO US with Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads/Modern Lovers/Solo

Episode 261 - HAPPY 5th BIRTHDAY TO US with Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads/Modern Lovers/Solo

The Hustle turns five this week and we are celebrating with Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Jerry Harrison! In normal times, this year would have been a time for celebration. Talking Heads seminal album Remain In Light turns 40 this year and Jerry was going to go on tour to play the album with original guitarist, the legendary Adrien Belew. Hopefully, that can get back on track soon. Jerry and I go deep on that album, the progression of the Talking Heads sound, his solo work, his time in the Modern

May 6, 2020 • 1:32:25

Deep Dive - David Sterry on Real Life's Send Me an Angel: 80s Synth Essentials (2008)

Deep Dive - David Sterry on Real Life's Send Me an Angel: 80s Synth Essentials (2008)

Australian band Real Life have many classic albums, but we thought it would be fun to invite back front man David Sterry (ep 73) to discuss a covers album he did in 2008 of classic 80s synth pop and new wave songs. Not only do you get to hear Real Life's take on standards like "I Melt With You", "Blue Monday", and "Cars" but you also get to hear what these songs and artists meant to him. Real Life also put out a new album recently called Sirens that we discuss as well. (Listen up for how David h

May 4, 2020 • 1:34:05

Podcaster Panel: Rock Docs

Podcaster Panel: Rock Docs

In this time of quarantining we could all use some distractions. In this spirit, we bring you this roundtable discussion on Rock Docs. Joining the discussion are fellow podcasters Brad Page from the I'm In Love With That Song podcast, Eric Miller from the Pods & Sods Network, and Ben Montgomery from Records Revisited. Together we debate the good ones vs. the bad ones, will we watch a doc about any musical topic, and we countdown some of our faves and recommendations. A complete list of every doc

Apr 30, 2020 • 1:57:49

Episode 260 - Joey Scarbury

Episode 260 - Joey Scarbury

At this point, Joey Scarbury is a bit of a pop culture icon. He's the voice of the eternal "Believe It Or Not", that most excellent theme song to the Greatest American Hero, which reached #2 in 1981. But what else do we know about him? Where did he come from? How did he happen to sing that song? Why was there not more? What has he been doing ever since? We go about answering those questions. Today, Joey leads as normal a life as you and me. Here's the whole story! https://www.patreon.com/thehust

Apr 28, 2020 • 1:03:36

Recap 2020 v.1

Recap 2020 v.1

Jon and Jan recap the first quarter of 2020, the ups and the downs (extremes on both ends). the messiness of normal life, how we're handling the quarantine, what we're watching, and what we thought of the last three month's worth of episodes.  And please get involved over on Patreon!  https://www.patreon.com/thehustlepod?fan_landing=true

Apr 26, 2020 • 1:34:41

Episode 259 - Clive Langer

Episode 259 - Clive Langer

Once again, we're joined by a fantastic producer that's behind tons of music we all love. Clive Langer started out fronting the crucial Liverpool band, Deaf School in the 70s. While they never made it global, they were a really big deal locally. Soon, Clive with his musical partner Alan Winstanley "fell into" producing the first singles by Madness (he's produced almost everything Madness has ever done) and it was off to the races. Artists like Teardrop Explodes, Elvis Costello, Dexy's Midnight R

Apr 22, 2020 • 2:02:52

Deep Dive - Author Greg Renoff on Van Halen (1978)

Deep Dive - Author Greg Renoff on Van Halen (1978)

We're trying something different this time. We're proud to welcome Van Halen Rising author Greg Renoff to deep dive Van Halen's debut album from 1978. Greg is probably considered THE expert on the early days of Van Halen, so it made sense to hear the stories he knows about the creation of this seminal work. In addition, Greg is now releasing his next book, Ted Templeman: A Platinum Producer's Life in Music which features Ted's recollections of working with artists like Van Halen, the Doobie Brot

Apr 18, 2020 • 1:34:57

Episode 258 - David Wild

Episode 258 - David Wild

Peabody Award-winning rock writer David Wild joins us to share tales from his many years as a rock journalist at Rolling Stone and his tenure as a writer/producer on just about every music award show of the last 20 years. Top on that list is "Let's Go Crazy: The GRAMMY Salute to Prince" airing on Tuesday, April 21st on CBS and featuring Earth Wind and Fire, Sheila E., Gary Clark Jr. and many more. If you've heard David before you know he's a master storyteller, so we get to hear his interactions

Apr 14, 2020 • 1:48:45

Deep Dive - Glen Burtnik on Heroes and Zeros (1987)

Deep Dive - Glen Burtnik on Heroes and Zeros (1987)

We're welcoming back Glen Burtnik (ep76) this week to discuss his second album, 1987's Heroes and Zeros. Glen's debut, Talking in Code, is a favorite of mine and when combined with H&Z showcases his incredible ability to write catchy, pop/rock songs. Unfortunately, neither album got the attention they deserved (even though the single "Follow You" should have been a hit), but Glen has maintained a successful and busy music career ever since. Enjoy!

Apr 13, 2020 • 1:21:20

Episode 257 - Lisa Velez of Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam

Episode 257 - Lisa Velez of Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam

Lisa Velez always wanted to be a singer and that dream came true when the mighty Full Force production team plucked her from the dance clubs in her early teens (!) to sing the classic "I Wonder If I Take You Home". The mixture of Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam's performance and Full Force's production struck gold for a couple years when tracks like "Head to Toe" and "Lost in Emotion" also went on to be giant hits. Eventually the hits slowed down, but Lisa Lisa has never stopped performing. In here we ta

Apr 8, 2020 • 57:32

Episode 256 - Bruce Woolley

Episode 256 - Bruce Woolley

Bruce Woolley has done a lot, but his largest contribution to pop culture is probably writing "Video Killed the Radio Star." Back in the 70s, he and his friend Trevor Horn created that song while pursuing their musical goals - Trevor with the Buggles and Bruce with the Camera Club. Of course MTV made the song iconic. His partnership with Trevor has continued to this day, in fact Bruce also wrote "Slave to the Rhythm" for Grace Jones (produced by Trevor), as well as songs by Cher, John Farnham an

Apr 1, 2020 • 1:29:21

Deep Dive - Eric Bazilian on The Hooters' Nervous Night (1985)

Deep Dive - Eric Bazilian on The Hooters' Nervous Night (1985)

Eric Bazilian of the Hooters returns to the podcast to discuss the creation and recording of their 1985 breakthrough album Nervous Night. We get into how they stumbled on their unique sound, why God and spirituality plays such a role in Eric's lyrics, and how the success changed their life. We are so lucky to hear from incredible artists like Eric!  https://www.hootersmusic.com/

Mar 29, 2020 • 1:20:50

Episode 255 - Peter Prescott of Mission of Burma

Episode 255 - Peter Prescott of Mission of Burma

There is almost nothing drummer Peter Prescott can do that will overtake the shadow caused by his band Mission of Burma. In just a brief time in the early 80s they managed to set the template for what American post-punk should sound like. After only an album and an EP, the guys split up and did other projects, but the legend just continued to grow, culminating in being featured in the invaluable book Our Band Could Be Your Life. This provoked a victory lap in the early 2000s that resulted in mor

Mar 25, 2020 • 1:14:27

Episode 254 - Chris Thompson of Manfred Mann's Earth Band/Solo

Episode 254 - Chris Thompson of Manfred Mann's Earth Band/Solo

Chris Thompson is "the voice" behind the most misunderstood lyric in rock history. Is it possible to play "Blinded By The Light" and hear anything other than "revved up like a douche"? No way! But, that's only one line item on Chris's impressive resume. In addition to singing other classic Manfred Mann songs like "The Runner", his successful solo career has netted several highlights including 80s soundtrack classics from films like The Champ, All the Right Moves, and American Anthem. He also wro

Mar 18, 2020 • 1:37:32

Episode 253 - Leee John of Imagination/Solo

Episode 253 - Leee John of Imagination/Solo

Leee John never stops. Forty years ago he fronted the British r&b group Imagination that scored loads of hits around the globe like "Flashback," "Body Talk," and their signature tune "Just an Illusion." After a decade of success, Leee went out on his own and has consistently released music in all styles and genres, solidifying his place as one of the key voices in British dance music. These days he remains as busy as ever with new projects including a documentary on British black music, a subjec

Mar 11, 2020 • 1:16:01

Episode 252 - Peter Wolf

Episode 252 - Peter Wolf

Producer Peter Wolf (not the J. Geils frontman) is behind some of the biggest music of the 80s, but also the most divisive. No matter how you may feel about "We Built This City" and "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" (and chances are you feel strongly) those songs were, and still are, huge. They also wouldn't be what they are without his Midas touch. In addition, Peter lent his genius to other classic songs of the era like "Who's Johnny," "Playing With the Boys," "Night Shift," and "King of Wishful Th

Mar 4, 2020 • 2:01:45

Episode 251 - Arthur Barrow

Episode 251 - Arthur Barrow

Bassist Arthur Barrow had a dream and it came true. That dream was to one day play with Frank Zappa and in the late 70s that's exactly what happened. What might be more interesting is where he went from there. Imagine going from Zappa to Giorgio Moroder! Arthur began a long and fruitful partnership with Giorgio (and his stable of producers including Keith Forsey and Richie Zito) that took up much of the 80s. This put Arthur in position to work closely with artists like Donna Summer, Berlin, Bill

Feb 26, 2020 • 1:38:58

Episode 250 - Julian Mendelsohn

Episode 250 - Julian Mendelsohn

This week it's the accomplished producer/engineer/mixer Julian Mendelsohn! Julian's golden touch (and golden ears) created some of the most beloved songs of the 80s. He's responsible for legendary tracks like "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood and "Always On My Mind" by Pet Shop Boys. He's also worked closely with artists like Level 42, Paul McCartney, Tasmin Archer, Kate Bush, Nik Kershaw, Killing Joke, Go West, Pseudo Echo, INXS, The Firm, Fine Young Cannibals, Peter Gabriel, Aztec Camera, a

Feb 19, 2020 • 2:09:41

Episode 249 - The "Invincible" Holly Knight

Episode 249 - The "Invincible" Holly Knight

This week we are honored to hear from one of the most decorated songwriters of all time, the legendary Holly Knight! Holly's career began in the early 80s with the AOR band Spider, but it was when other artists began having success recording songs she'd written (like John Waite's "Change" and Tina Turner's "Better Be Good to Me") that she switched her focus to songwriting. She went on to pen some of the biggest songs ever like "Love is a Battlefield", "The Warrior" and "The Best". In this conver

Feb 11, 2020 • 1:35:36

Episode 248 - Bonnie Hayes

Episode 248 - Bonnie Hayes

This week we get to hear from the wonderful singer/songwriter Bonnie Hayes! Coming out of the Bay Area nearly 40 years ago with her band the Wild Combo, Bonnie mastered the new wave sound and even had a couple songs featured in the movie Valley Girl. For some reason, the solo career never quite took off like it should have, but good fortune bounced in her direction when some of her songs made their way to Bonnie Raitt and were included in her massive comeback album Nick of Time in 1989. From the

Feb 5, 2020 • 1:19:52

Bonus - Top Ten Yacht Rock Songs with Reliving My Youth

Bonus - Top Ten Yacht Rock Songs with Reliving My Youth

Jon and Noel from the Reliving My Youth podcast are at it again! This time they countdown their top 10 yacht rock songs. What counts as yacht rock? Is it a guilty pleasure or seriously awesome music? Do the songs hold up or are they tied too much to an era? You tell us how you feel!

Feb 2, 2020 • 1:57:18

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.5: Lesser Known R&B

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.5: Lesser Known R&B

Jon teams up with Steve and Drew from Suburban Underground once again, this time to play some of their favorite lesser known R&B jams! You hear songs you may not know from some of the legends of the genre, some modern goodies, and many others that may be completely new to you. Let us know what you think!

Feb 1, 2020 • 1:04:58

Recap: 2019 Year In Review

Recap: 2019 Year In Review

Jon and Jan discuss the highs and lows of 2019 including, the last few months worth of guests, our top 10 episodes of the year as well as the listener picks, and we answer your questions. 2019 was a wild ride and we share what we learned and how we feel about it. Special thanks to everyone that makes The Hustle a unique endeavor. We love you all!

Feb 1, 2020 • 2:30:02

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Neil Peart with Barry Connors

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Neil Peart with Barry Connors

It seemed fitting to pay tribute to an excellent Canadian drummer by speaking with another excellent Canadian drummer. Barry Connors of the fantastic AOR band Toronto (ep 9) returns to tell us what Neil meant to Canada, the influence he had on his own drumming style, and what it was like seeing Rush live back in the early days. There has never been anyone else like Neil Peart and we're lucky to discuss it with great people like Barry.    https://www.facebook.com/hollywoodsandtoronto/

Jan 31, 2020 • 21:35

Episode 247 - Chris Hayes of Huey Lewis and the News

Episode 247 - Chris Hayes of Huey Lewis and the News

This week we are lucky to welcome the guitarist for one of the biggest bands of the 80s - Chris Hayes from Huey Lewis and the News! Chris and I discuss his time in the band and  the stories behind many of the songs, but what I mostly wanted to know was why he chose to walk away almost 20 years ago. You realize what became more important to him was family and sobriety. He's a wonderful guy whose story is not well known. Enjoy!

Jan 29, 2020 • 1:26:36

Episode 246 Jerry Marotta

Episode 246 Jerry Marotta

If you were one of those people who read the liner notes on all your records, no doubt you saw the name Jerry Marotta on many of your favorites. From the late 70s til the mid 80s Jerry drummed for Peter Gabriel AND Hall and Oates at the same time! When those gigs came to an end he joined up with the Indigo Girls for a while. Along the way he recorded with the likes of Paul McCartney, Tears For Fears, Robbie Robertson, Fee Waybill, Sarah McLachlan, Los Lobos, Cher, John Mayer, and a bunch of othe

Jan 22, 2020 • 3:07:03

Promo Mode - Marshall Crenshaw discusses the vinyl release of Miracle of Science

Promo Mode - Marshall Crenshaw discusses the vinyl release of Miracle of Science

One of our most popular guests, Marshall Crenshaw, returns to discuss the brand new deluxe vinyl edition of his 1996 album Miracle of Science. One of his great, but unsung albums is finally getting the treatment it deserves and is available now! Marshall recounts the writing and recording of it and we discuss the shows he's been doing with the Smithereens since the passing of frontman Pat DiNizio two years ago. Enjoy!   www.marshallcrenshaw.com

Jan 17, 2020 • 34:02

Episode 245 - Michelle Shocked

Episode 245 - Michelle Shocked

It's been a wild ride for Michelle Shocked. Her career as a protest singer began in the mid-80s by accident and has expanded to touch on every genre you can think of. She doesn't want to be pigeonholed and she does what she wants. Which makes the "Yoshi Incident" even more confusing. In March of 2013 during a concert in San Francisco, Michelle, believing rightly that there were bootleggers in the room, said some pretty despicable things about homosexuals and gay marriage. Her career's never been

Jan 14, 2020 • 1:13:39

Episode 244 - Charlie Midnight

Episode 244 - Charlie Midnight

Charlie Midnight's success as a songwriter has spanned nearly 40 years. After partnering up with Dan Hartman in the early 80s, the two wrote a string of hits for both Dan and others, many of which were featured on soundtracks for films like Fletch, Ruthless People, Breakin', and Rocky 4 with James Brown making "Living in America" iconic. From there, Charlie forged his own successful writing and producing career working with artists like Joe Cocker, Billy Joel, the Doobie Brothers, and Joni Mitch

Jan 8, 2020 • 1:57:43

Deep Dive - Brad Sundberg on Quincy Jones' Back on the Block (1989)

Deep Dive - Brad Sundberg on Quincy Jones' Back on the Block (1989)

Audio engineer Brad Sundberg returns to discuss the making of the epic Quincy Jones album Back on the Block from 1989. The legendary producer called all of his famous friends to contribute to this opus of an album that went on to win seven Grammys and sell a million copies. Among the legends appearing on Back on the Block are Miles Davis, Ray Charles, Ella Fitzgerald, Ice T, Barry White, Sarah Vaughn, George Benson, James Ingram, Chaka Khan, Kool Moe Dee, the Brothers Johnson, Al B. Sure, Bobby

Jan 3, 2020 • 2:28:48

Episode 243 - Tom Croucier of Life By Night

Episode 243 - Tom Croucier of Life By Night

Imagine getting only one chance at the big time and it not working out. That can't be easy to deal with, but that's what happened to this week's guest, Tom Croucier of the band Life By Night. Tom's career started picking up steam in the early 80s when he played with both Scorpions and Dokken (his brother Juan is in Ratt), so when he fronted his own band that was equal parts rock and new wave, it seemed like a slam dunk. The result is the 1985 Life By Night album that featured the closest they ca

Dec 31, 2019 • 1:58:28

Episode 242 - Chris Stamey/Richard Lloyd

Episode 242 - Chris Stamey/Richard Lloyd

Here it is, warts and all! It's another Merry Chris-mas at the Hustle! This year we hear from indie legend Chris (get it?) Stamey! After forming the dbs in Chapel Hill 40 years ago with Peter Holsapple, Chris has carved his own unique and diverse solo path. To prove my point, this year he released a new album New Songs for the 20th Century that was heavily influenced by the likes of Cole Porter and Henry Mancini! I ask Chris why the change in style, but he doesn't see it that way. In fact, this

Dec 25, 2019 • 1:37:54

Promo Mode - Richard Bush discusses the new Peace Creeps album Social Studies

Promo Mode - Richard Bush discusses the new Peace Creeps album Social Studies

Forrmer guest Richard Bush (ep 69) returns to talk about the brand new album Social Studies by his current band The Peace Creeps. You may remember that 40 years ago, Richard fronted the wonderful Philly power-pop band The A's. The Peace Creeps brand of rock is more psychedelic, but no less effective. The first single, "Through Our Ruins" is getting some radio attention, thankfully, so we talk about how that feels at this stage in his career and what he hopes to accomplish with this new album. Ch

Dec 22, 2019 • 26:34

Episode 241 - Prescott Niles of The Knack

Episode 241 - Prescott Niles of The Knack

The Knack are the poster band for both extreme success and extreme flame out. They had the biggest hit of 1979 with their debut single "My Sharona", a song that remains as killer today as it was then. But, almost immediately the backlash came - they copy the Beatles too much, the lyrics are misogynistic, power pop is over, etc. Unfortunately, the band never really got over that despite staging many reunions and comebacks over the years. However, when frontman Doug Feiger died in 2010 that was al

Dec 18, 2019 • 0:00

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.4: Songs That Move Us

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.4: Songs That Move Us

Jon and the boys from Suburban Underground come together for another hour of music. This time the topic is "songs that move us." You'll notice when you listen to this that we each define "move" in different ways. Who do you identify with the most? Don't be shy!  https://www.facebook.com/SuburbanUndergroundRadio/

Dec 13, 2019 • 1:04:33

Episode 240 - Joey Shuffield of Fastball

Episode 240 - Joey Shuffield of Fastball

The 90s were a fickle time. Fads came and went, stars were made and just as quickly left behind. Austin's Fastball had what it took for the long haul, but it hasn't been easy. Lead by the dual songwriting chops of Tony Scalzo and Miles Zuniga, the band broke big on their second album with hits like "The Way," "Out of My Head," and "Fire Escape." But, as it often happens, by the time the follow up came out the crowd had moved on. They've never really gone away though and they even released a soli

Dec 11, 2019 • 1:17:02

Episode 239 - Johnny Edwards of Foreigner/Montrose/King Kobra

Episode 239 - Johnny Edwards of Foreigner/Montrose/King Kobra

Imagine this - one of the greatest rock singers in history decides to leave his hugely successful band and you've been selected to take his place. That's what happened with Johnny Edwards. Though it was the beginning of the 90s, Foreigner's Mick Jones felt that even though Lou Gramm was out of the band there was still enough gas in the tank to keep things going. He recruited Johnny and they recorded Unusual Heat, a solid rock album that never really stood a chance. This scenario wasn't entirely

Dec 4, 2019 • 1:22:20

Deep Dive - Walter Egan on Wild Exhibitions (1983)

Deep Dive - Walter Egan on Wild Exhibitions (1983)

Walter Egan's 1978 smash "Magnet and Steel" will follow him around wherever he goes, deservedly so, but what gets lost sometimes is the absolutely stellar power pop album he made in 1983 called Wild Exhibitions. It featured his last hit "Fool Moon Fire", but didn't get the attention it deserved then, and still doesn't, so we attempt to right that wrong. In this Deep Dive, Walter and I shed light on this hidden gem, while also gliding over his entire career. We love Walter and hope that you will

Dec 1, 2019 • 1:46:04

Episode 238 - Mike Watt of the Minutemen/fIREHOSE

Episode 238 - Mike Watt of the Minutemen/fIREHOSE

There's never been anyone like Mike Watt. He's an American treasure at this point. There's the Minutemen. Then fIREHOSE. Then about a million other projects of various size including a period with Porno For Pyros, another with Iggy and the Stooges and even an appearance on a Kelly Clarkson record! One of Mike's recent projects is the Jumpstarted Plowhards - a collaboration between him and guitarist/singer Tony Congelliere with a a rotating roster of drummers. Their first release of a projected s

Nov 27, 2019 • 1:24:43

Episode 237 - Art Alexakis of Everclear

Episode 237 - Art Alexakis of Everclear

In a decade that churned through artists as tastes and fads changed weekly, Everclear managed a heckuva lot of hits. Storming the gates with the hyper-catchy "Santa Monica," the guys dropped radio staple after radio staple like "Everything to Everyone," "Father of Mine," "I Will Buy You a New Life" and the list goes on and on. By the 2000s, the wave was starting to die down, but the band never really went away, even if the players came and went. The mainstay has always been leader Art Alexakis,

Nov 20, 2019 • 1:25:39

Bonus - Tom Keifer of Cinderella/Solo

Bonus - Tom Keifer of Cinderella/Solo

Cinderella may have been put to bed years ago, but frontman Tom Keifer has been slowly building up his solo project for a while now and it just keeps getting bigger. The Tom Keifer Band recently released the new album Rise and completed a US tour (another leg is taking shape early next year). In this short conversation, we discuss the difference between his current band and his old one, how he views his legacy, the state of his health (he's undergone several throat surgeries over the years, but

Nov 17, 2019 • 38:20

Episode 236 - Juliana Hatfield

Episode 236 - Juliana Hatfield

The last few years have been a blur of prolific activity for Juliana Hatfield. There was the anti-Trump album Pussycat from 2017, there have been side projects with Paul Westerberg (The I Don't Care's) and Nada Surf's Matthew Caws (Minor Alps), and there have been albums of new material (2019's Weird and 2015's Whatever, My Love), but what is a wonderful new focus for her are these albums of covers. In 2018 she released Juliana Hatfield Sings Olivia Newton-John to wide acclaim and this week she

Nov 13, 2019 • 1:32:17

Bonus - Jon and Georgia Countdown Their Top 5 Kiss Songs

Bonus - Jon and Georgia Countdown Their Top 5 Kiss Songs

It was bound to happen sooner or later. Jon engages in conversation with his 12-year-old daughter Georgia, discussing their love of Kiss and counting down their top 5 songs. This was done quick and dirty, no editing, no production. Hope you're all impressed!

Nov 10, 2019 • 52:14

Episode 235 - James Atkin of EMF

Episode 235 - James Atkin of EMF

The summer of 1991 belonged to bands like EMF. When they took over the world with their debut single "Unbelievable," it signaled a change in the sound of mainstream music where white British guys merged alternative rock with dance music, hip-hop and skate culture. Coming out of the gate with a song as big as that one, you'd think EMF would continue on, but such was not the case. Like so many others, they suffered the dreaded sophomore slump on the second album and barely released a third before

Nov 6, 2019 • 1:25:06

Episode 234 - Ruben De Fuentes of The Hollywood Stars

Episode 234 - Ruben De Fuentes of The Hollywood Stars

Sometimes you just have to wonder why some bands don't make it. Take the Hollywood Stars. Brought together by famous impresario Kim Fowley, the guys were meant to be a West Coast answer to the New York Dolls. After some stops and starts, the band finally released their debut album in 1977, but it didn't show what the band could do, it under-performed, and the band broke up ending the potential for greatness. Guitarist Ruben De Fuentes enjoyed the LA music scene of the period and went on to play

Oct 29, 2019 • 1:00:46

Episode 233 - Rocco Barker of Flesh For Lulu

Episode 233 - Rocco Barker of Flesh For Lulu

Flesh For Lulu had it all. They mixed the Stones' swagger with the New York Dolls' grease and added a healthy dose of 80s glam to perfection as evidenced on possibly their best known hit, 1987's "I Go Crazy" from the Some Kind of Wonderful soundtrack. But, it all ended too quickly and now it never will be again. Lead singer Nick Marsh passed away in 2015 of cancer, putting a permanent end to this wonderful band. Guitarist Rocco Barker tells us the full story - how his first band Wasted Youth was

Oct 23, 2019 • 1:13:57

Bonus - Top 10 Soundtrack Songs of the 90s with Reliving My Youth

Bonus - Top 10 Soundtrack Songs of the 90s with Reliving My Youth

In part 2 of our crossover episode with Reliving My Youth, Jon and Noel countdown their Top 10 soundtrack songs of the 90s.

Oct 18, 2019 • 1:32:46

Episode 232 - Darren Hill of Red Rockers

Episode 232 - Darren Hill of Red Rockers

Red Rockers were all set to be the "American Clash." They may have started as the go-to punk band in their native New Orleans, but when they wrote the 1983 hit "China" for their second album, not only did their style change, but MTV played them incessantly, recognition soon followed, and original fans screamed "sell outs!" Unfortunately, the switch to a more commercial sound only led to moderate commercial success. Other than the still beautiful "China" they never quite got off the ground. When

Oct 16, 2019 • 1:22:24

Recap 2019 v.3 with Brad Page

Recap 2019 v.3 with Brad Page

It's that time again, Hustlers and this time Jon and Jan are joined by Brad Page of the I'm In Love With That Song podcast. We're honored to have the man with the buttery voice slumming it with us knuckleheads. Not only do we recap the last three months of episodes, but we also discuss bad publicist experiences, we get an update on Jan's love life, whatever happened with HustleFest, and who was it that cut our interview short? And good news - no airports this time! Enjoy!  You can find out infor

Oct 14, 2019 • 2:21:55

Promo Mode - Ian Anderson discusses The Ballad of Jethro Tull book and 40th Anniversary of Stormwatch

Promo Mode - Ian Anderson discusses The Ballad of Jethro Tull book and 40th Anniversary of Stormwatch

Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson is busy these days. First of all, November sees the release of the new book The Ballad of Jethro Tull. For the first time ever Ian, along with former members of the band, tell the full story of their musical formation and legacy. You can preorder this beautiful new book now and get your name printed inside. You will also receive an mp4 of Ian reciting new tracks "The Ballad of Jethro Tull" and "Marmion". In addition, Oct. 18th sees the release of the 40th anniversary d

Oct 11, 2019 • 32:25

Episode 231 - Martha Wash

Episode 231 - Martha Wash

Martha Wash has one of the most recognizable voices in pop history. Well, maybe a better word for it is "utilized." She has sang on some of the biggest club/dance hits of the last 40 years and you may not even realize it. In the 70s she and her friend Izora Rhodes began singing back up for disco legend Sylvester, becoming known as Two Tons O' Fun. This lead to their own record deal and two albums released under that name before changing it to the Weather Girls. Then came "It's Raining Men," a gi

Oct 9, 2019 • 1:24:16

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Eddie Money with Steve Eddie Rice

A Discussion of the Death and Legacy of Eddie Money with Steve Eddie Rice

We lost another good one recently. To discuss the great Eddie Money we bring back Steve "Eddie" Rice of the killer Bay Area rock band Eddie and the Tide. Money produced their album Go Out and Get It in 1984 for what we think may be Eddie's only production credit of his whole career. Steve shares stories about what Eddie was like to work with, the jokes he told, his approach to songwriting and even a somber recent phone call they had that may have implied Eddie knew what was down the pike. Once a

Oct 4, 2019 • 28:24

Episode 230 - George McCrae

Episode 230 - George McCrae

It almost didn't happen for George McCrae. In fact, the whole thing was a total fluke. He and his wife Gwen sang back up on recording sessions around Miami with his focus more on managing her career than pursuing his own. But when Harry Wayne Casey wrote a new song that was too high for his register, he asked George, who happened to be around, if he would sing it. That song, 1975's "Rock Your Baby", went on to be one of the biggest selling singles of all time, selling at least 11 million copies,

Oct 2, 2019 • 1:12:11

Deep Dive - Robert Tepper on No Easy Way Out (1986)

Deep Dive - Robert Tepper on No Easy Way Out (1986)

This month we welcome back the fantastic Robert Tepper (ep66) to discuss his 1986 debut album No Easy Way Out. True, the title track from Rocky 4 is one of the greatest AOR songs ever and was a decent-sized hit, but when it came time to release the full album his label was on to other things. We discuss the creation of the songs, who played on them, and how royally Scotti Bros. botched this thing! In addition, Robert releases his new solo album Better Than The Rest today! We also get into that a

Sep 27, 2019 • 1:28:55

Episode 229 - Chris Ballew of The Presidents of the United States of America/Caspar Babypants

Episode 229 - Chris Ballew of The Presidents of the United States of America/Caspar Babypants

In 1995 "Lump" was unleashed on an unsuspecting world. And it became a hit. That was followed up by "Peaches," another weird one that reached the same status. Where did these funny, but rocking (novelty?) songs come from? Who writes songs like this? The band is literally called The Presidents of the United States of America? It all seemed like someone was playing a joke, but the tunes were undeniable and millions of people snatched up the album. Unfortunately, it didn't last. The sophomore slump

Sep 24, 2019 • 1:01:38

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.3: New Music From Legacy Artists

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.3: New Music From Legacy Artists

After too long a layoff, The Hustle and Suburban Underground come together again this time to play recent music from legacy artists. You may be surprised to find out that some of the bands you loved back in the day have made quality music in the last few years that's just as good as material from their peak. In here we play newer songs by Animotion, The Waterboys, Bad Religion, Robert LaRoche, The Motels, Yes, Blondie, Nick Heyward, The Outfield, Liam Gallagher, Bruce Foxton, The Ocean Blue, and

Sep 20, 2019 • 1:02:08

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Ric Ocasek with Fred Pineau

A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Ric Ocasek with Fred Pineau

To celebrate the life and work of Ric Ocasek we welcome back former guest Fred Pineau (ep70), guitarist of the Atlantics. The Atlantics were an excellent Boston-based power pop band who came up through the ranks alongside Ric and the Cars in the 70s. Fred talks about his relationship with Ric, what he meant to the Boston scene, what the his legacy will be, and shares stories from back in the day. Fred's one of the best storytellers we've ever had on the show, and we're grateful he agreed to come

Sep 19, 2019 • 26:59

Episode 228 - Chris Carter of Dramarama

Episode 228 - Chris Carter of Dramarama

When people talk about alternative rock band Dramarama, what you'll often hear is that they were "before their time." Though they came to prominence in the mid-80s, their aggressive, but melodic power pop sound was a perfect precursor for the garagey 90s. Through the help of tastemaker Rodney Bingenheimer, the band exploded out of LA in 1985 with "Anything Anything" that set records and still kills. The band released quality work for a decade before eventually calling it quits. Bassist and found

Sep 17, 2019 • 1:33:32

Episode 227 - David Hawes of Catherine Wheel

Episode 227 - David Hawes of Catherine Wheel

Among the many fantastic British shoegazer bands of the early 90s, Great Yarmouth's Catherine Wheel were among the very best. They exploded out of the gate with Ferment in 1992, one of the best debut albums by anyone ever, and kept the train rolling for most of the decade until the "wheels" finally came off at the dawn of the new millennium. While it lasted they managed to impress and work with top-of-the-line producers like Tim Friese-Green (Talk Talk), Gil Norton (Pixies) and even Bob Ezrin. B

Sep 11, 2019 • 1:13:20

Episode 226 - Robin Campbell of UB40

Episode 226 - Robin Campbell of UB40

It feels like UB40 have always been in our lives. Maybe that's because they practically have. Last year the guys celebrated their 40th anniversary with a tour that was so well received, it's carried over to the 41st year. And to mark the occasion, in 2019 they released their best album in decades, For The Many, which hearkens back to their early days like nothing else they've released in a while. Guitarist and founding member Robin Campbell and I discuss this victory lap, as well as some of thei

Sep 4, 2019 • 1:39:44

Deep Dive - Rupert Hine on The Fixx - Reach the Beach (1983)

Deep Dive - Rupert Hine on The Fixx - Reach the Beach (1983)

For August's Deep Dive we welcome back another legendary producer, this time it's the great Rupert Hine (ep158)! We go behind the scenes on the creation and recording of The Fixx's 1983 masterwork Reach The Beach. This landmark album produced three top 40 singles including "One Thing Leads to Another" and "Saved By Zero" and is their biggest seller moving 2 million copies. We also cover how the band found their sound and discuss the singular mind of lead singer Cy Curnin. We're so lucky to hear

Aug 30, 2019 • 1:41:25

Episode 225 - John Ford Coley

Episode 225 - John Ford Coley

Ahh the 70s. That period of burgeoning hard rock and soft, smooth sounds. Among the many artists filling the airwaves with ear candy were England Dan and John Ford Coley. The successful duo racked up half a dozen or so hits in the second half of the decade.  Songs like "I'd Really Love to See You Tonight" and "Nights are Forever Without You" provide touchpoints to simpler times, back when AM radio was king.  The pair even scored a hit with a TODD song!  But, like many 70’s duos, the partnership

Aug 27, 2019 • 59:54

Episode 224 - Dolette McDonald

Episode 224 - Dolette McDonald

Singer Dolette McDonald felt ever-present in the 80s. Her striking voice, and equally striking looks, made her feel front and center while she was supporting musical giants like Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, and most notably Sting. When he left the Police and went solo, he brought Dolette along for the ride. This is on celluloid forever in the Bring On The Night documentary, as well as those amazing Amnesty International concerts featuring Peter Gabriel, Bruce Springsteen and Tracy Chapman. He

Aug 21, 2019 • 1:36:03

Episode 223 - Jay Aston of Gene Loves Jezebel

Episode 223 - Jay Aston of Gene Loves Jezebel

Gene Loves Jezebel personified the 80s. A strikingly garish style mixed with a perfected merge of goth and pop music that many 80s bands tried to nail and couldn't. Along the way, alternative radio gobbled up hits like "Desire," "The Motion of Love" and "Jealous." Unfortunately, rock history is riddled with brothers that can't get along and GLJ are no different. Twins Jay and Michael Aston have been feuding at various levels for 30 years to the point where Michael maintains the Gene Loves Jezebe

Aug 14, 2019 • 1:11:22

Episode 222 - Gary Clark of Danny Wilson/Beloved Movie Soundtrack Fame

Episode 222 - Gary Clark of Danny Wilson/Beloved Movie Soundtrack Fame

Is there a more lovable song than "Mary's Prayer" by Danny Wilson? It's always welcome, always warms your heart, always makes you sing and smile. That song, which reached #23 in the US in 1987 was written and sung by this week's guest, Danny Wilson frontman Gary Clark. As much promise as the band had, they only managed two albums before calling it quits at the end of the 80s. Gary spent the dawn of the 90s starting a few other groups and working on solo material to no avail. As luck would have i

Aug 7, 2019 • 1:26:39

Episode 221 - Dave Bascombe

Episode 221 - Dave Bascombe

If you were a kid of the 80s with an eye towards the inventive new wave music coming out of the UK, no doubt you saw the name Dave Bascombe everywhere. This influential producer/engineer/mixer lent his talents to some of the most important alternative and pop albums of the decade. His name graces the credits of landmark albums like Depeche Mode's Music For The Masses, Peter Gabriel's So, and Tears For Fears' Songs From the Big Chair. Among the other giants we discuss in this conversation are Gen

Jul 30, 2019 • 1:48:14

Deep Dive - Ron Nevison on Heart (1985)

Deep Dive - Ron Nevison on Heart (1985)

This month we're honored to bring back the legendary producer Ron Nevison as we discuss Heart's 1985 comeback album. The Wilson sisters were not in a good place until Capitol Records revived their careers, but it came with some stipulations that the girls still aren't happy about. Despite them distancing themselves from the people they were at this time, we love the record and Ron gives us all the behind the scenes info. Plus, the girls are reunited and back out on tour AND this record turned 34

Jul 28, 2019 • 1:31:34

Episode 220 - Kip Winger of Winger/Solo

Episode 220 - Kip Winger of Winger/Solo

Has any rock god from the 80s been torn down only to rise back up more often than Kip Winger? His band Winger stormed out of the gate in the mid-80s with giant hits like "Seventeen" and "Headed For a Heartbreak" but the naysayers and bullying quickly overwhelmed an otherwise successful career. After grunge wiped all of them out, Kip retreated to the desert to reconnect with his muse eventually resulting in a celebrated foray into classical music. While he still tours with the guys in Winger, his

Jul 24, 2019 • 1:12:34

Bonus - Best Soundtrack Songs of the 90s with Reliving My Youth part 1

Bonus - Best Soundtrack Songs of the 90s with Reliving My Youth part 1

Noel Fogelman from Reliving My Youth podcast and Jon team up again to countdown their top 20 soundtrack songs from the 90s. Here's part 1 where we go from 20 to 11.

Jul 19, 2019 • 1:34:46

Episode 219 - Robbie Grey of Modern English

Episode 219 - Robbie Grey of Modern English

Modern English will forever be known as the band that gave us "I Melt With You." Those guys achieved the miraculous feat of recording a song that has been embraced by every generation since it's release in 1982 (contrary to popular belief, the song was not actually a hit originally). In this entertaining conversation, frontman Robbie Grey discusses the spoils of a song that's evergreen and we discuss a lot of the band's output that gets overshadowed including their 2016 album Take Me To The Tree

Jul 16, 2019 • 1:09:16

Promo Mode - Robert LaRoche of the Sighs discusses his new solo EP.

Promo Mode - Robert LaRoche of the Sighs discusses his new solo EP.

Former guest Robert LaRoche has just released the best album of the year. In his brand new EP, A Thousand Shades, the former frontman for 90s power poppers The Sighs creates six songs reflecting a dark, but beautiful, night of the soul. LaRoche and I discuss the sad break-up that inspired these songs, how he's never lost his knack for hooks, and who all contributed to the album. Do yourself a favor and make some time to sit with A Thousand Shades and really let it sink in. You'll be better for i

Jul 13, 2019 • 41:14

Episode 218 - Randy Jacobs of Was (Not Was)/The Boneshakers

Episode 218 - Randy Jacobs of Was (Not Was)/The Boneshakers

Guitarist Randy Jacobs has a list of credits a mile long. The Detroit native's career goes back over 40 years and includes just about every genre there is - including a few years with Bonnie Raitt here, a couple with Paul Kelly there, etc. A guy doesn't get asked to play with the likes of Michael Henderson, Seal, Tears For Fears and Bruce Hornsby if he doesn't know what he's doing. But he may be best known as a member of the wholly unique supergroup Was (Not Was). He even co-wrote their biggest

Jul 9, 2019 • 1:42:37

Recap 2019 v.2 with Paul Underwood and Andy Schaal

Recap 2019 v.2 with Paul Underwood and Andy Schaal

The boys are back and fielding a full team this time (sorta) as Jon and Jan welcome sometime producer Paul Underwood of Glory Days Radio and Chief Marketing Officer Andy Schaal. We discuss the last few months of episodes, awkward listener reactions, even more awkward facebook interactions with former guests, and some listener questions. Jan was traveling and only able to chime in once in a while, so we were especially glad to have our two great friends with us this time around.  Enjoy!

Jul 8, 2019 • 2:36:19

Episode 217 - Don Brewer of Grand Funk Railroad

Episode 217 - Don Brewer of Grand Funk Railroad

People often forget that one of the biggest bands of the 70s was Flint Michigan's own Grand Funk Railroad. They may forget this because the band isn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they have a bunch of hits, but they haven't been played to death like "Stairway to Heaven," and they aren't written up continuously in Rolling Stone magazine. Original member and drummer Don Brewer and I discuss why this might be and how he feels about it. We also hear the stories behind several GFR hits and nota

Jul 2, 2019 • 1:07:31

Deep Dive - Marco Pirroni on Adam and the Ants - Kings of the Wild Frontier (1980)

Deep Dive - Marco Pirroni on Adam and the Ants - Kings of the Wild Frontier (1980)

For June's episode of Deep Dive we welcome back legendary guitarist Marco Pirroni (ep 200) to educate us on the creation and recording of the breakout album by Adam and the Ants, 1980's Kings of the Wild Frontier. This is really the album that made Adam a star and titillated music lovers who wanted all they could get from the swashbuckling pirate with the Indian stripe across his nose. Where did these styles and influences come from and why did it work so well? No one else has ever sounded like

Jun 29, 2019 • 1:42:56

Episode 216 - Dave Schelzel of The Ocean Blue

Episode 216 - Dave Schelzel of The Ocean Blue

Since their buzzworthy debut in 1989, Hershey Pennsylvania's Ocean Blue have never strayed from their perfect mix of the Smiths meets the Cocteau Twins to the delight of their rabid fanbase. Today these fans have reason to rejoice because they guys have just released a new album, Kings and Queens/Knaves and Thieves and it's just good as anything else they've done in the last 30 years. In this conversation, frontman Dave Schelzel and I recount their entire career, what was happening behind the sc

Jun 26, 2019 • 1:02:45

Episode 215 - William Wittman

Episode 215 - William Wittman

William Wittman is another producer/engineer/mixer whose name may not sound familiar, but who no doubt has worked on scores of songs you know and love. His first major work was on Cyndi Lauper's monumental She's So Unusual. Included on those sessions were the guys from The Hooters, which lead to WW doing their breakthrough Nervous Night. The same team went on to help craft Joan Osborne's smash Relish. From there, the hits just kept coming with albums by The Outfield, The Fixx and Scandal. He's a

Jun 18, 2019 • 1:49:07

Bonus - Mike Peters of The Alarm

Bonus - Mike Peters of The Alarm

Mike Peters has a lot going on. His band The Alarm have a brand new album called SIGMA dropping on June 28th and lead single "Blood Red Viral Black" is an indication that the band is as fiery and powerful as ever. They are also kicking off a North American tour in July with Modern English and Jay Aston's Gene Loves Jezebel. Plus he's still running his vital cancer organization the Love Hope Strength Foundation that finds bone marrow matches at Alarm concerts. And he was recently awarded an OBE b

Jun 14, 2019 • 43:41

Episode 214 - Mark Deming, Staff Writer for Allmusic

Episode 214 - Mark Deming, Staff Writer for Allmusic

This week we welcome another music academic, Allmusic.com critic Mark Deming. Mark has been a contributor to the platform for many years and in this conversation we discuss how he became a rock writer, what music criticism even means today, and , of course, we debate a bunch of stuff like why some artists are lionized no matter what they do and why others never get the credit they deserve. As much as I love and rely on music critics for documenting a historical record, I take issue with what I p

Jun 11, 2019 • 2:07:43

Episode 213 - Laura Campbell and Alan Edmunds of Mulu

Episode 213 - Laura Campbell and Alan Edmunds of Mulu

Remember in the 90s when electronic music was poised to take over the world? Groups like Portishead, Chemical Brothers, and Olive were doing something so innovative it seemed techno and trip-hop would become the new norm. Well, it didn't really work out that way. Among some of these innovative artists was a duo from Liverpool called Mulu made up of producer Alan Edmunds and singer Laura Campbell. The two only released one album called Smiles Like a Shark in 1997 that featured excellent singles l

Jun 4, 2019 • 1:28:23

Promo Mode - Jack Hues discusses the new Wang Chung album Orchesography

Promo Mode - Jack Hues discusses the new Wang Chung album Orchesography

Wang Chung are releasing a special new album today called Orchesography which re-imagines some of their biggest hits and deepest cuts in a classical setting. You may have already seen the video for "Dance Hall Days" which had a real viral moment when it was released about a month ago. Hearing these classic songs in this new context adds a freshness that is sure to delight listeners. Frontman Jack Hues (ep 163) returns to discuss the impetus of the idea, how the songs were recreated, and his rece

May 31, 2019 • 29:27

Episode 212 - Patrick Fitzgerald of Kitchens of Distinction/Solo

Episode 212 - Patrick Fitzgerald of Kitchens of Distinction/Solo

You might consider South London's Kitchens of Distinction forebears of the shoegazer genre that defined alternative rock in the UK in the early 90s. Fronted by bassist Patrick Fitzgerald, the Kitchens perfected the art of layering swirling guitars into infinity creating some of the most gorgeous noise ever recorded. But, after four albums in 6 years without a major breakthrough, the band called it quits in the mid-90s. Since then Patrick has had numerous side projects including Fruit, Lost Girls

May 28, 2019 • 1:23:48

Deep Dive - Kevin Armstrong on Iggy Pop - Blah Blah Blah (1986)

Deep Dive - Kevin Armstrong on Iggy Pop - Blah Blah Blah (1986)

In 1986 David Bowie did his buddy Iggy Pop a solid offering to help produce a new album and bring him the commercial success he so richly deserved. Bowie threw together a crack team including guitarist Kevin Armstrong and recorded Blah Blah Blah. The album featured the hit “Real Wild Child” and brought Iggy some mass success. But was it art? Kevin returns (ep 187) to go deep on the recording process. We also chat about his new excellent solo album Run. Enjoy!

May 25, 2019 • 1:26:26

Episode 211 - Ron Nevison

Episode 211 - Ron Nevison

Whether you know the name or not, chances are you've rocked out to scores of songs produced by the legendary Ron Nevison. Can you believe he first got his feet wet engineering The Who's Quadrophenia? And then Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti? From there he applied his genius to albums by the likes of Bad Company, Thin Lizzy, UFO and the Babys. And that was just the 70s! In the 80s he produced the finest pop rock available, guiding smash hits by the likes of Heart, Jefferson Starship, Survivor, E

May 21, 2019 • 1:49:43

Episode 210 - Greg Kihn

Episode 210 - Greg Kihn

If you looked up New Wave or Power Pop in the dictionary, one of the skinny-tied artists you'd see next to The Knack would be the great Greg Kihn. He's practically the poster boy for that unmistakable sound bubbling up in the late 70s when long-haired rockers were cutting their hair and their songs shorter and embracing the new wave. This transition scored him some huge hits like "The Breakup Song (They Don't Write 'Em)", "Jeopardy" and "Reunited", but then he sort of disappeared. What happened

May 14, 2019 • 1:17:12

Bonus - Tim Pierce

Bonus - Tim Pierce

After breaking out as a member of Rick Springfield's band in the early 80s, guitarist Tim Pierce went on to become one of the most sought after session guys in the business. He has literally played on over 1000 recordings in his long career. Some of the big collaborations that we talk about in here are Bon Jovi, John Waite, Crowded House, Michael Jackson, Kenny Loggins, Bruce Springsteen, Seal, Roger Waters, Meat Loaf, and Rod Stewart. But, what's more interesting is the online guitar instructio

May 11, 2019 • 1:10:24

Episode 209 - HAPPY 4th BIRTHDAY TO US with Sandi Saraya of Saraya

Episode 209 - HAPPY 4th BIRTHDAY TO US with Sandi Saraya of Saraya

We're turning four this week! And to celebrate we present this very rare interview with one of our most requested guests, Sandi Saraya! Saraya were an excellent, but short-lived hard rock band that only released two albums - the self-titled in 1989 featuring the mild hit "Love Has Taken Its Toll" and the much heavier and darker follow up, When The Blackbird Sings in 1991 - before mysteriously disappearing. Fans have wondered for years where Sandi went and why. We answer those questions here whic

May 8, 2019 • 1:18:38

Episode 208 - Franke Previte of Franke and the Knockouts/Beloved 80s Movie Soundtrack Fame

Episode 208 - Franke Previte of Franke and the Knockouts/Beloved 80s Movie Soundtrack Fame

Oscar-winner Franke Previte basically won the lottery in 1987. He first rose to mild fame fronting the early 80s melodic rock band Franke and the Knockouts where he recorded three great albums and scored three top 40 hits you may remember like "Sweetheart" and "You're My Girl." While their "Foreginer by way of Jersey" sound was solid, it wasn't taking over the world. And then everything changed. Franke was asked to contribute a couple songs to a movie called Dirty Dancing (he worried it was a po

Apr 30, 2019 • 1:18:38

Deep Dive - Ian Burden on the Human League - Dare (1981)

Deep Dive - Ian Burden on the Human League - Dare (1981)

The release of Dare by the newly reconstituted Human League in 1981 changed everything. Suddenly, synthesizers weren't just these cold machines producing frosty sounds from the back of the room. Phil Oakey and company showed how they could be used to create pop songs with hooks and choruses that sounded great on the radio, something no one else had done as well to that point. In this month's Deep Dive, Human Leaguer and former guest Ian Burden (ep 194) returns to talk about the creation and reco

Apr 26, 2019 • 1:36:13

Episode 207 - Chris Butler of The Waitresses

Episode 207 - Chris Butler of The Waitresses

Remember that 2002 movie starring Hugh Grant called About A Boy? You know, the one where he plays a bachelor able to live comfortably on royalties he receives from a single Christmas song? Just wait till you hear the story on "Christmas Wrapping"!    Meet Chris Butler, guitarist and primary songwriter for The Waitresses.  Chris is just your run-of-the-mill artist who…wrote his biggest hits from a woman’s perspective, records music without the benefit of electricity and lives in a serial killer’s

Apr 23, 2019 • 1:20:28

Episode 206 - Royston Langdon of Spacehog

Episode 206 - Royston Langdon of Spacehog

The 90s were good to Royston Langdon. His band hit it big in 1996 with their #1 smash "In The Meantime" off their debut album Resident Alien. He also married actress Liv Tyler. But after two more Spacehog albums, the band came apart and was never the same. Over the years there have been a couple reunions, but today Royston is focusing on his solo career and released his first solo album Everything's Dandy under the moniker LEEDS (the album we be re-released under his own name soon). And, congrat

Apr 17, 2019 • 1:21:13

Bonus - Top 10 Honorable Mention 80s Movie Soundtrack Songs with Reliving My Youth

Bonus - Top 10 Honorable Mention 80s Movie Soundtrack Songs with Reliving My Youth

Noel and Jon had so much fun counting down their Top 10 soundtrack songs of the 80s, and so many leftovers, that they decided to do a part 2! This is us counting down another 10 songs - call them top 11-20, top honorable mentions, top obscure tracks, or whatever you want, as long as you listen, enjoy, and speak up! https://www.facebook.com/RelivingMyYouth/

Apr 12, 2019 • 1:59:00

Episode 205 - Ronnie DeVoe of New Edition/Bell Biv DeVoe

Episode 205 - Ronnie DeVoe of New Edition/Bell Biv DeVoe

Imagine you have Ronnie DeVoe's life. You're plucked in your early teens to round out New Edition and you never look back. Then, after several huge hits, you veer off with Ricky and Mike and invent New Jack Swing (and eclipse the success of New Edition) with Bell Biv DeVoe. Hits like "Poison" and "Do Me" were revolutionary. The core of New Edition - Ronnie, Ricky, Mike, Ralph Tresvant, Bobby Brown, and Johnny Gill - has never changed even if the guys float in and out depending on availability an

Apr 9, 2019 • 1:08:59

Episode 204 - Mark Campbell of Jack Mack & the Heart Attack/Beloved 80s Movie Soundtrack Fame

Episode 204 - Mark Campbell of Jack Mack & the Heart Attack/Beloved 80s Movie Soundtrack Fame

We've all seen Back to the Future multiple times, but have you ever watched Marty McFly singing "Johnny B. Goode" at the dance and wondered whose voice was actually coming out of Michael J. Fox's mouth? Well, it was none other than Mark Campbell, front man for the excellent soul outfit Jack Mack & the Heart Attack! Here we go deep on all the minutia you could want regarding his involvement in that movie. 1985 was a big year for Mark as Jack Mack also appeared in the teen angst drama Tuff Turf so

Apr 3, 2019 • 1:06:39

Recap 2019 v.1: Big Announcement and the Year So Far

Recap 2019 v.1: Big Announcement and the Year So Far

We've got some big news to share! Plus, Jon and Jan recap the episodes of 2019 so far including MJ controversies, more rock star deaths, why 90s artists under-perform, and what's the deal with so many bassists lately. We also answer a few listener questions.     Links to our listener-recorded song. Diamond Field feat Bob Haro - iTunes Diamond Field feat Bob Haro - Spotify

Mar 30, 2019 • 1:41:18

Episode 203 - Tony De Meur (aka Ronnie Golden) of the Fabulous Poodles

Episode 203 - Tony De Meur (aka Ronnie Golden) of the Fabulous Poodles

The Fabulous Poodles were a band that merged humor with rock n' roll at a time when all bets were off. Part pub rock, part new wave, part power pop and part comedy act, the Fab Poos may not have earned major hits, but they had a blast trying during their short existence. They recorded three albums during the late 70s (their '77 debut was produced by the Who's John Entwistle), toured the states with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and the Ramones, and backed up Chuck Berry. But, when it ended fro

Mar 27, 2019 • 1:25:24

Deep Dive - Stu Cook on Creedence Clearwater Revival - Willy and the Poor Boys (1969)

Deep Dive - Stu Cook on Creedence Clearwater Revival - Willy and the Poor Boys (1969)

In 1969 alone, Creedence Clearwater Revival released three of the greatest rock albums in history. The third, and arguably the best, was Willy and the Poor Boys. Landmark hits like "Down on the Corner" and " Fortunate Son" have cemented its place on pretty much every list of the best albums ever, deservedly so. This month we bring back one of our favorite guests ever, CCR bassist and Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Stu Cook (ep100) to discuss the making of the album, his favorite moments, and the dy

Mar 24, 2019 • 1:30:33

Episode 202 - Brent Bourgeois of Bourgeois Tagg/Solo

Episode 202 - Brent Bourgeois of Bourgeois Tagg/Solo

You can certainly be forgiven if all you know about today’s guest is that he was the "Bourgeois" in Bourgeois Tagg and they had that great song “I Don’t Mind At All”.   Surprisingly, Brent Bourgeois is fine with that too.  In fact, he gets much more excited these days talking about his work behind the mixing board than those days spent in front of it.   His career has taken more turns than Lombard Street and in doing so, has intersected with an odd variety of fame.  How odd?  Well, allow me to n

Mar 19, 2019 • 1:28:39

Bonus - Brad Sundberg, Technical Director for Michael Jackson

Bonus - Brad Sundberg, Technical Director for Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson is once again a very hot topic. In the recent documentary "Leaving Neverland" Wade Robson and James Safechuck make very serious claims that Michael sexually abused them for many years when they were young. If you've seen the movie, you no doubt have very strong feelings about it. Brad Sundberg worked alongside Michael for 18 years, including technical direction and being part of the engineering team on the Bad, Dangerous, HIStory and Blood on the Dance Floor albums, and these acc

Mar 16, 2019 • 1:26:26

Episode 201 - Michael Beinhorn

Episode 201 - Michael Beinhorn

Producer Michael Beinhorn has worked the boards for some of the biggest albums of the last 30 years. Just look at this list - the Red Hot Chili Pepper's Mother's Milk, Soul Asylum's Grave Dancer's Union, Soundgarden's Superunknown (which just turned 25 last week), Marilyn Manson's Mechanical Animals, and Hole's Celebrity Skin. And there are many others where that came from (the Violent Femmes, Ozzy Osbourne, Social Distortion, and the Verve Pipe are some of the others we talk about). But, did yo

Mar 13, 2019 • 2:09:08

Bonus - Lawrence Gowan of Styx/Solo

Bonus - Lawrence Gowan of Styx/Solo

Have you heard the news? Rock legends Styx are about to embark on a mini-tour with comedian Larry the Cable Guy as the opener (begins March 21st in Fargo, ND). What a unique pairing! It's being billed as the "Laugh. Rock. Seriously." tour and is expected to bring smiles to all in attendance at a time when we all need them. Lead singer Lawrence Gowan and I discuss how this happened as well as the band's most recent album, 2017's The Mission, which is the best Styx album released since their imper

Mar 9, 2019 • 36:05

Episode 200 - Marco Pirroni of Adam and the Ants

Episode 200 - Marco Pirroni of Adam and the Ants

This week we celebrate our 200th episode with the immortal Marco Pirroni! His partnership with Adam Ant created some of the most unique, catchy and enduring hits of the 80s. Smashes like "Stand and Deliver," "Prince Charming," "Goody Two Shoes," and "Strip" have never been equaled and sound as fresh today as the day they were recorded. These days Marco and Adam aren't on speaking terms, but Marco's kind-hearted, jovial nature makes him a fun conversationalist and he shares stories of their time

Mar 6, 2019 • 1:37:06

Promo Mode - Mr. Zero Discusses The Kings' Excellent New Single

Promo Mode - Mr. Zero Discusses The Kings' Excellent New Single

Canadian power pop legends The Kings have just released an excellent new single called "Circle of Friends/Man That I Am" that calls upon perhaps their greatest musical legacy, "This Beat Goes On/Switching to Glide." With help from old compadre, the legendary Bob Ezrin, the band polished off a nugget they've had in the vaults for many years and proven they haven't lost a step. Guitarist Mr. Zero discusses the potential for a new Kings album, the challenges of releasing new music in this day and a

Mar 3, 2019 • 37:52

Episode 199 - Phil Thornalley

Episode 199 - Phil Thornalley

Phil's journey through the music industry has been one for the ages. At just 21 years old, Phil was brought in to produce The Cure's Pornography album in 1982. That even lead to an 18 month stint as their touring bassist. What it also lead to was a partnership with the late-great producer Alex Sadkin, which had him producing some major albums of the era like Duran Duran's Seven and the Ragged Tiger and the Thompson Twins' Into the Gap (which got him a Grammy nom). We also discuss his work with f

Feb 27, 2019 • 2:14:27

Deep Dive - Dr. Robert on the Blow Monkeys - Animal Magic (1986)

Deep Dive - Dr. Robert on the Blow Monkeys - Animal Magic (1986)

In 1986 this sophisticated pop group with the weird name  scored a huge worldwide hit with "Digging Your Scene." Listening to just that song, you probably thought you knew what this band was all about - slick production, loungy horns,  and a fey lead singer. But, when you listened to Animal Magic as a whole you heard blues and country guitar licks covered in bongos, saxophones a plenty, and beautiful ladies singing backup. Over the years, Animal Magic  has become one of my favorite albums of all

Feb 23, 2019 • 1:30:52

Episode 198 - Paul Webb of Talk Talk/Rustin Man

Episode 198 - Paul Webb of Talk Talk/Rustin Man

In my opinion, no group in the history of pop music went on as drastic a journey as the band Talk Talk. Beginning in the early 80s as an excellent and capable synth-pop group in a similar mold as Human League and Duran Duran, Mark Hollis, Lee Harris and Paul Webb's style changed over the course of five albums into something that stymied critics resolved to calling "post-rock." In the beginning of the 90s, the band called it quits with lead singer Hollis retiring into complete anonymity. In 2002

Feb 19, 2019 • 1:10:39

Promo Mode - Bruce Blackman Discusses His New Memoir

Promo Mode - Bruce Blackman Discusses His New Memoir

It seemed fitting to kick off a new series on The Hustle with the man that kicked off the podcast back in May of 2015. Starbuck mastermind Bruce Blackman was our very first guest and still one of the best. His knack for telling stories infused with southern charm is unparalleled. It's what made Starbuck's music so good and what makes his new memoir The Road to Moonlight Feels Right so entertaining.  Bruce has a Faulkner-esque knack for bringing color to his childhood in Mississippi and the many

Feb 15, 2019 • 32:31

Episode 197 - Duncan Sheik

Episode 197 - Duncan Sheik

If there was ever a time to bring back the chill 90’s, it’s now.  You saw it in the loose fitting clothes, and you definitely heard it in the music. It was just a laid back time. A calm before the storm, if you will. Duncan Sheik’s blockbuster hit personified that era.  With well over a million radio plays, it followed you everywhere; inside your Toyota Camry, on VH1, aisle 7 at Costco and the changing room at Structure. Perhaps today, as you sang along to it on Nineties On 9, you felt a tinge o

Feb 12, 2019 • 1:28:44

Episode 196 - Steve Firth of Embrace

Episode 196 - Steve Firth of Embrace

British rock band Embrace may have come out in the wake of Oasis and Blur during the second British Invasion of the late 90s, but they had a sound that separated them greatly from the pack. Rarely has a Brit-pop group concocted grandiose rockers and epic ballads with more heart, inspiration and beauty. allmusic.com called them the "Orson Welles of rock" which is about right. While they've had a few #1 albums in the UK, their road to success in the States has been rocked with some of the worst lu

Feb 6, 2019 • 1:25:36

Episode 195 - Don Dixon

Episode 195 - Don Dixon

Despite being a critically acclaimed singer/songwriter in his own right, Don Dixon's legacy as an important figure in American rock was cemented when he co-produced the first two albums by R.E.M. (Murmer and Reckoning) with Mitch Easter. Helping to bring their sound to the world changed everything. He would go on to produce other excellent artists like Guadalcanal Diary, the Smithereens, Marshall Crenshaw and Matthew Sweet, while also forging his own solo path with excellent tunes like "Praying

Jan 30, 2019 • 2:00:00

Deep Dive - Matthew Seligman on Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth (1984)

Deep Dive - Matthew Seligman on Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth (1984)

In part one of our new series Deep Dive, we've invited back former guest, Matthew Seligman to discuss the recording of Thomas Dolby's underappreciated masterpiece, 1984's The Flat Earth. At a time when listeners were expecting "She Blinded Me With Science Part 2", Dolby delivered a challenging piece of art that still doesn't get enough attention. Matthew played bass on the record and shares his stories and recollections of the era.

Jan 26, 2019 • 1:25:52

Episode 194 - Ian Burden of the Human League

Episode 194 - Ian Burden of the Human League

Ian Burden was a key member of the revolutionary new wave band the Human League during their imperial 80s period. Philip Oakey was desperate to find band members during the lead-up to the creation of 1981's game-changing album Dare! and called upon Burden to bring his musicianship to the group, which lead to classic singles like "The Sound of the Crowd," "Love Action," and "Mirror Man." After the unpleasant experience of recording 1986's Crash with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Ian decided to leave

Jan 22, 2019 • 1:32:40

Bonus - Top 10 80s Movie Soundtrack Songs on Reliving My Youth

Bonus - Top 10 80s Movie Soundtrack Songs on Reliving My Youth

Once again Jon teams up with Noel Fogelman from Reliving My Youth for another music-related topic close to his heart: Top 10 soundtrack songs from the 80s! We discuss our lists and defend our picks. But, we ask you, dear listener, who wins?  Good news - no metronome this time!  Look for a Part 2 in the near future.

Jan 18, 2019 • 2:33:54

Episode 193 - Brian Vander Ark of the Verve Pipe/Solo

Episode 193 - Brian Vander Ark of the Verve Pipe/Solo

After building a devoted fanbase in their native Michigan in the early 90s, the Verve Pipe struck gold in 1996 when a song they'd been playing for years called "The Freshman" totally changed the game, catapulting their third album (first on a major label) Villains into platinum territory. The world was their oyster. Unfortunately, the follow-up tanked on an epic level and they never quite regained their footing. Since then their songcraft has only improved over the years, including 2017's excell

Jan 15, 2019 • 1:04:22

Recap v.6: The Year In Review

Recap v.6: The Year In Review

Jon and Jan recap the episodes from November and December and countdown their top 10 episodes of the year, as well as the listener's top 5. We also answer some listener questions AND we announce a new sidecast for 2019 that listeners should really love. 2018 turned out to be a great year for us thanks to all of you. Hopefully we can keep it going!

Jan 12, 2019 • 2:33:06

Episode 192 - Liberty DeVitto of Billy Joel/The Slim Kings

Episode 192 - Liberty DeVitto of Billy Joel/The Slim Kings

It’s time to set the record straight.  Liberty DeVitto is not merely the former drummer for Billy Joel.  He is a collaborator in the sounds that shaped popular music in the latter 20th century.  Here we not only touch on his complicated relationship with the Piano Man; moreover, we showcase “Lib’s” immense talent on tunes that weren’t necessarily the hits. Things to listen for:  * The song that contains percussion played on Billy’s bare chest. *The timeless classic that cemented its place on "Th

Jan 8, 2019 • 1:16:22

Episode 191 - Emilio Castillo of Tower of Power

Episode 191 - Emilio Castillo of Tower of Power

Tower of Power have been one of the landmark r&b outfits for 50 years now. From humble beginnings in the East Bay of Northern California, co-founders and sax players Emilio Castillo and Doc Kupka started something very special that carries on today, arguably better than ever. In fact, TOP put out one of their best albums ever in 2018 called Soul Side of Town. While there have been ups and downs and stops and starts along the way (not to mention too many band members to count!) the quality has ne

Jan 1, 2019 • 1:18:21

Episode 190 - Chris Dunn of City Boy

Episode 190 - Chris Dunn of City Boy

City Boy was a band that was almost impossible to classify. Imagine if ELO, Queen and Yes got together and decided to get weird and you're in the ballpark. They did manage to hit the pop charts once when the epic "5705" off their third album Book Early reached #27 in the states in 1978. Unfortunately, that was it in terms of the charts, but then again chart success was never the highest priority. This week we talk to bassist Chris Dunn about what fueled their quirky creativity, as well as what i

Dec 25, 2018 • 1:36:31

Episode 189 - Derry Grehan of Honeymoon Suite

Episode 189 - Derry Grehan of Honeymoon Suite

Canadian rockers Honeymoon Suite might be the most undervalued melodic rock band of the 80s. Though always maintaining a profile up north, the band deserved more attention in the states and around the rest of the world. Hits like "New Girl Now," "What Does It Take" and "Feel It Again" from their 1986 masterpiece The Big Prize (produced by Bruce Fairbairn) are perfect examples of the very best that genre had to offer. Like most 80s rock bands, the 90s weren't kind to HMS and the spotlight moved o

Dec 18, 2018 • 1:06:46

Episode 188 - Jeffrey Osborne

Episode 188 - Jeffrey Osborne

Jeffrey Osborne is one of the greatest balladeers in r&b history. Who can ever forget his amazing performance on 80s standards like "On the Wings of Love," "We're Going All the Way," and "You Should Be Mine (The Woo Woo Song)." After leaving his first band L.T.D. he teamed with the legendary producer George Duke to become one of the most successful singer of the 80s with additional hits like "Stay With Me Tonight" and "The Borderlines." By the 90s he took a step back, but has never gone away and

Dec 11, 2018 • 1:23:41

Episode 187 - Kevin Armstrong

Episode 187 - Kevin Armstrong

Kevin Armstrong has been a go-to guitarist for some of the greatest artists of the last 35 years. After first tasting success playing with Thomas Dolby during the Golden Age of Wireless era, Kevin went on to partner with David Bowie for several years, including backing him at Live Aid and being the "unofficial" 5th member of Tin Machine. This also lead to a partnership with Iggy Pop, which continues to this day. We talk about several other artists he met along the way including Morrissey, Peter

Dec 5, 2018 • 1:31:40

Bonus - Chris White of the Zombies

Bonus - Chris White of the Zombies

In this special bonus episode we chat with Zombies bassist Chris White about the resurgence the band has enjoyed over the last 15 years or so leading to them being nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for a fourth time! This rediscovery is largely thanks to generations getting turned on to their excellent 1967 album Odessey and Oracle, which was a bomb at the time (though it did include the hit "Time of the Season"), but is now called out as being one of the greatest albums of all time.

Nov 29, 2018 • 49:41

Episode 186 - Brian James of The Damned/Lords of the New Church/Solo

Episode 186 - Brian James of The Damned/Lords of the New Church/Solo

Brian James doesn't like to sit in one spot for too long. In the mid-70s he joined up with Rat Scabies and the gang to form the pioneering punk band The Damned. That band holds many firsts - first punk band signed to a major label, first punk band to release a single with "New Rose" in 1976, and the first to tour America. But, after an ill-fated second album, the band broke up and Brian went on to play guitar with his hero, Iggy Pop. After a couple years doing that, he joined forces with the gre

Nov 27, 2018 • 1:17:06

Episode 185 - Steve Diggle of the Buzzcocks/Solo

Episode 185 - Steve Diggle of the Buzzcocks/Solo

The Buzzcocks remain one of the greatest punk bands in history. Their mixture of punk's aggression with pop's hooks set them apart from their contemporaries with standards like "What Do I Get," "Autonomy," and "Ever Fallen In Love." Co-founder Steve Diggle lays out the history of the band, the effects of punk on his young psyche, the story behind the big hits, how David Bowie influenced male sexuality, and what solo projects he has coming up. Steve is still punk through and through and the band

Nov 20, 2018 • 1:21:58

Episode 184 - Steve Barton of Translator/Solo

Episode 184 - Steve Barton of Translator/Solo

Translator were one of those great polyglot bands of the early 80s - a little new wave, a little power pop and a lot of genres like "jangle pop" and "college rock" that hadn't even been invented yet. They released four album in the 80s and are probably best known for one of the best singles of the decade, 1982's "Everywhere That I'm Not." Eventually the band went on hiatus and Steve and his impressive songwriting skills lay dormant for a many years until 1999 when he kicked his solo career into

Nov 13, 2018 • 1:33:46

Recap v.5: September and October and Top 3 Songs that Should've Been #1s with Special Guest Sonny Pooni

Recap v.5: September and October and Top 3 Songs that Should've Been #1s with Special Guest Sonny Pooni

Jon and Jan are happy to be joined by the great Sonny "Hollywood" Pooni of the Growin' Up Rock Podcast Rock City podcasts to recap the last couple months of episodes. We also discuss the Rock n Pod Expo, how he got into podcasting, and the possible future of The Hustle. Sonny has suggested a deliciously fun topic to discuss - Top 3 songs that we wish had hit #1 between the years 1983-1989. Songs get played, names get dropped, and tastes are debated. Enjoy!   https://growinuprock.com/ https://pod

Nov 10, 2018 • 2:21:18

Episode 183 - Lee Rocker of The Stray Cats/Solo

Episode 183 - Lee Rocker of The Stray Cats/Solo

Stray Cats bassist Lee Rocker is going to be busy for a while. Not only did his original band announce recently they were reuniting for a 40th anniversary tour in 2019 AND releasing their first album of new material in many years, Lee himself is about to release a new solo CD/DVD in December called The LOW Road! In fact, there is a Pledge Music campaign associated with the release and you can get involved at the link below. In this conversation, Lee discusses what details he can about the reunio

Nov 6, 2018 • 1:16:30

Episode 182 - Chris Barron of the Spin Doctors

Episode 182 - Chris Barron of the Spin Doctors

In 1992 the Spin Doctors had an era-defining, cultural touchstone of an album on their hands when their debut, Pocket Full of Kryptonite, finally took off after months of release. It went on to sell over 3 million copies on the back of perennial hits like "Two Princes" and "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong." Unfortunately, as is often the case, the curse of the Sophomore Slump hit them pretty hard when the follow up, 1994's Turn It Upside Down, failed to take hold. Though momentum stalled, the band ha

Oct 31, 2018 • 1:39:26

Bonus - Joyce Hyser star of Just One of the Guys

Bonus - Joyce Hyser star of Just One of the Guys

In this fun bonus episode we chat with Joyce Hyser Robinson, star of the classic 1985 movie “Just One of the Guys”. She talks about her experience making the movie, who else was up for the part, her career afterwards, and other things she’s done like being almost completely cut out of “Spinal Tap.”  She also explains the important non-profit she’s a part of, the Harold Robinson Foundation. Enjoy!    http://haroldrobinsonfoundation.org/

Oct 26, 2018 • 54:01

Episode 181 - Tony Brock of The Babys

Episode 181 - Tony Brock of The Babys

The Babys were one of the great British rock bands of the late 70s. They released five albums between 1976 and 1980 and scored a number of hits like "Every Time I Think of You" and "Isn't it Time" which were a perfect showcase for the vocal chops of frontman John Waite. But, in 1981 the band broke up when Waite went solo and keyboardist Jonathan Cain joined Journey. This week we talk with drummer Tony Brock who also scored a sweet post-Babys gig drumming for Rod Stewart as well as collaborating

Oct 23, 2018 • 1:48:09

Episode 180 - Bob Rock of the Payola$

Episode 180 - Bob Rock of the Payola$

Bob Rock is one of the most successful producers in rock history. Run down some of the benchmarks on his resume and your jaw will drop (Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet, Aerosmith's Permanent Vacation, Motley Crue's Dr. Feelgood, The Cult's Sonic Temple and of course Metallica's black album). But before all that he and musical partner Paul Hyde were young punks in Vancouver, British Columbia fronting the excellent new wave band The Payola$. Perhaps best known for the classic tune "Eyes of a Stranger

Oct 16, 2018 • 1:46:50

Episode 179 - Robin Scott aka M

Episode 179 - Robin Scott aka M

In the late 70s, artist Robin Scott adopted the moniker "M" and created one of the most enduring pieces of pop art in history with his 1979 global #1 "Pop Muzik." This piece of profound simplicity wrapped in the guise of fluffy, disposable pop art took the world by storm and showed in neon what the next decade of music would sound like. As Robin continued to push the boundaries of pop music, his sound became more and more challenging and the hits never came again. But, hits are not what Robin wa

Oct 9, 2018 • 2:19:38

Episode 178 - Alan Shacklock

Episode 178 - Alan Shacklock

The music career of Alan Shacklock reads like a history of British rock and roll. He started out rocking as a pre-teen hobnobbing with other future luminaries and eventually made it big as the guitarist and creative force for the 70s blues band Babe Ruth. They may be best known for their hit "The Mexican" which has become one of the most sampled songs in hip-hop history. In the last 70s he decided to pursue production and among the people he worked with that we talk about are Dexys Midnight Runn

Oct 2, 2018 • 2:30:47

Episode 177 - Keith Scott of Bryan Adams

Episode 177 - Keith Scott of Bryan Adams

For nearly 40 years, Keith's Scott's partnership with Bryan Adams has produced some of the most memorable guitar rock of all time. Content to remain "the guy behind the guy", Keith deserves more credit for the magic he brought to seminal songs like "Cuts Like a Knife", "Summer of '69", "It's Only Love" and many more. It's truly "RIFF ROCK" at its finest. In this rare conversation, Keith tells the stories behind some of the biggest hits of the 80's and 90's. What mega Bryan Adams hit did the band

Sep 25, 2018 • 1:24:24

Episode 176 - Pat Vegas of Redbone

Episode 176 - Pat Vegas of Redbone

Redbone are another of those excellent 70s hitmakers that are enjoying a career resurgence thanks to their inclusion on the Guardians of the Galaxy soundtracks. The band released many hits that decade like "The Witch Queen of New Orleans,"One More Time," and "Wovoka," but the biggest was "Come and Get Your Love" which reached #5 in 1974 and is currently enjoying a rebirth. Pat Vegas and his brother Lolly were working musicians during that legendary Southern California classic rock period before

Sep 18, 2018 • 1:07:43

Bonus - Top 5 Covers of 80s Songs on Reliving My Youth

Bonus - Top 5 Covers of 80s Songs on Reliving My Youth

Jon was recently invited to guest on the super fun podcast Reliving My Youth with host Noel Fogelman. Noel picked the topic of Top 5 Covers of 80s songs, which should spark some great debates. If you're unfamiliar with Reliving My Youth you should give it a shot. Noel talks to pop culture icons from back in the day, including actors, actresses, musicians, you name it. In fact, we've had many cross-over guests. There is a lot of guest envy going on between us! Hope you like this.  https://itunes.

Sep 14, 2018 • 1:26:41

Episode 175 - Elliot Lurie of Looking Glass

Episode 175 - Elliot Lurie of Looking Glass

Looking Glass made a brief, but lasting impact in 1972 when they scored the #1 smash "Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)" off their debut album. After only one more album in 1973, the band broke up and Brandy's songwriter Elliot Lurie put out one non-starting solo album in 1975 before his music career basically ended. He went on to a long and successful career as a music supervisor for films and is responsible for the soundtracks to films like 9 1/2 Weeks, The Last of the Mohicans, and Jumping Jack Fla

Sep 11, 2018 • 1:17:41

Recap v.4: Rock n Pod Expo Retro, Jan's Lovelife, July and August eps

Recap v.4: Rock n Pod Expo Retro, Jan's Lovelife, July and August eps

Jon and Jan come together again to discuss topics like Jon's visit to the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo, Jan's internet lovelife, and the guests featured in July and August. Oh, and Jon's sick again.

Sep 7, 2018 • 1:04:07

Episode 174 - Robbie Dupree

Episode 174 - Robbie Dupree

Robbie Dupree scored big out of the gate with the enduring "Steal Away" which reached #6 in 1980 and the follow up "Hot Rod Hearts" also did well on the pop charts. But, after the relative disappointment of his second album, 1981's Street Corner Heroes, Robbie's plans changed. Thankfully, there was still a hunger for Robbie in the Asian market and a new record deal allowed him to continue to make music. It may not have gotten the wide distribution he was used to, but it would keep him viable and

Sep 4, 2018 • 1:19:47

Bonus - The Songwriting and Collaboration Panel from the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo 2

Bonus - The Songwriting and Collaboration Panel from the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo 2

Another excellent Rock n Pod Expo is in the books and Jon was honored to be asked once again to host a panel on Songwriting and Collaboration. We only had 30 mins this year, but the guests were all excellent. The introductions weren't recorded, but they were Gary Corbett, keyboardist for Kiss, Cinderella, Debbie Gibson and Lou Gramm, Paul Taylor of Winger and Steve Shareaux of Kik Tracee. The Expo was a rousing success, we hope you all can join us next year!

Sep 1, 2018 • 27:29

Episode 173 - John Aizlewood

Episode 173 - John Aizlewood

John Aizlewood is a British music writer and broadcaster, contributing over 30 years of thoughtful interviews to UK publications like The Guardian, The Sunday Times, The Evening Standard and (my beloved) Q Magazine. But, I became aware of him as one of the talking heads on the AXS TV program "Rock Legends" where he can be found alongside other British music experts telling the stories of the legends of rock. If you've seen the show, you know John has a very distinct and unique way of expressing

Aug 28, 2018 • 2:20:35

Episode 172 - Linda Clifford

Episode 172 - Linda Clifford

Linda Clifford was one of the most successful disco divas of the late 70s. While being signed to Curtis Mayfield's Curtom label she racked up a bunch of hits on the R&B and Dance charts including a handful of #1s like "Runaway Love" and "If My Friends Could See Me Now". She worked hard during the disco era releasing six stellar albums in three years, but by the mid-80s when tastes had changed Linda decided to step away to raise her family. Time has been good to Linda however and not only is she

Aug 21, 2018 • 1:17:59

Episode 171 - Paul Kimble of Grant Lee Buffalo

Episode 171 - Paul Kimble of Grant Lee Buffalo

Grant Lee Buffalo were one of the very special bands to come out of the 90s alternative rock scene. They combined their own blend of moody folk-rock with unconventional stories of the American West. Paul Kimble was the bassist, but also, more importantly, served as the producer of the band's first three albums (Fuzzy, Mighty Joe Moon, and Copperopolis). Unfortunately, before production began on their fourth album, Paul was sacked and the band released their fourth and final album without him. So

Aug 14, 2018 • 1:33:29

Episode 170 - Cherry Vanilla

Episode 170 - Cherry Vanilla

Cherry Vanilla has done and seen just about everything. She's a recording artist, actress, author, publicist and groupie. Just a few of her career highlights include being a part of Warhol's Factory scene and acting in his play "Pork," being a publicist for David Bowie in the early 70s, putting out two excellent glam rock albums - Bad Girl in 1978 and Venus D'Vinyl in 1979 - and touring Europe with a pre-fame Police backing her up (including Sting and Stewart Copeland), and enjoying the free lov

Aug 7, 2018 • 1:33:19

Episode 169 - B.J. Thomas

Episode 169 - B.J. Thomas

Billboard Magazine lists B.J. Thomas among the top 50 most played artists of the modern era. This shouldn't be surprising considering his career goes back over 50 years and features songs that have become standards at this point like "Hooked On a Feeling," "(Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song," and, of course, "Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head" from 1969's Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. In this conversation B.J. discusses how he was selected to sing that song, ho

Jul 31, 2018 • 1:26:24

Episode 168 - Mark Stein of Vanilla Fudge

Episode 168 - Mark Stein of Vanilla Fudge

Vanilla Fudge was a band unlike any other doing something no one had done before or since. They basically set the template for hard rock with their 1967 debut album by taking current pop hits and slowing them way down, adding loads of psychedelia, and toughening up the sound. This revolutionary idea was a huge influence on bands like Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple who were both openers for the Fudge back in the day. Unfortunately, after that debut album broke down barriers with their #6 version of

Jul 24, 2018 • 1:16:27

Episode 167 - Joe Puerta of Bruce Hornsby and the Range

Episode 167 - Joe Puerta of Bruce Hornsby and the Range

If you think about it, the Range were really more of a super group. A bunch of highly sought after professional musicians came together around the creative leadership of newcomer Bruce Hornsby to form an excellent unit that recorded some of the most enduring hits of the 80s ("The Way It Is," "Mandolin Rain," "Look Out Any Window" and many more). Bassist Joe Puerta had already had some success with his original band Ambrosia, which employed a young Bruce late in its run, but his life changed mass

Jul 17, 2018 • 1:26:03

Recap v.3: May and June and Top 3 Underrated Artists with Special Guest Andy Schaal

Recap v.3: May and June and Top 3 Underrated Artists with Special Guest Andy Schaal

Jon and Jan welcome special guest, listener Andy Schaal for the latest recap episode. They discuss their thoughts and behind the scenes stories from the May and June episodes and debate Andy's chosen topic of Most Underrated Artists/Bands. Thanks again for the support, Andy!

Jul 14, 2018 • 2:56:19

Episode 166 - Chris Joyce of Simply Red

Episode 166 - Chris Joyce of Simply Red

Drummer Chris Joyce was one of the founding members of Simply Red and an essential part of their sophisto-pop sound and early success. But, even though they were getting big around the world and scored two #1 hits in the US ("Holding Back the Years" and "If You Don't Know Me By Now"), it was about to get even bigger. In 1991 they released their fourth album, Stars, which went on to be one of the biggest selling albums in UK chart history (and was mostly ignored in the US). Unfortunately, Chris w

Jul 10, 2018 • 1:37:16

Bonus - Top 5 Producers with Glory Days Radio

Bonus - Top 5 Producers with Glory Days Radio

Once again Jon sits down with our buddy Paul Underwood of Glory Days Radio, only this time it was to list their Top 5 favorite producers. We hope you enjoy this lively, and opinionated, conversation and please let us know what you think!  Glory Days Radio is now available for download on the Podbean app! Do yourself a favor and subscribe as Paul is a wiz of a producer and always provides excellent entertainment and deep discussions on various musical topics. You can also follow GDR on facebook a

Jul 8, 2018 • 1:43:02

Episode 165 - Brian Nash of Frankie Goes to Hollywood/Nasher

Episode 165 - Brian Nash of Frankie Goes to Hollywood/Nasher

We all remember when Frankie Goes to Hollywood burst on the scene with their provocative songs like "Relax" and "Two Tribes" and even more provocative persona. They put sex and homosexuality front and center at a time when such topic were only whispered about. Unfortunately, despite burning bright, they flamed out quickly and followed up their massive debut album, 1984's Welcome to the Pleasuredome with the half-hearted Liverpool in 1986 and then called it quits. Here, guitarist Brian Nash discu

Jul 4, 2018 • 1:48:15

Episode 164 - Tony Lewis of The Outfield

Episode 164 - Tony Lewis of The Outfield

Britain's The Outfield broke out in a big way in 1985 when their debut album Play Deep sold three million units and scored hits as enduring as "Your Love" and "Say It Isn't So". While subsequent albums didn't sell as much, their place as pop/rock craftsmen was cemented forever. They tapered off in the 90s, but never really went away, even releasing two of their strongest albums in 2006 and 2011. Unfortunately, guitarist and song-writer John Spinks died in 2014 of liver cancer leaving lead singer

Jun 26, 2018 • 1:04:07

Bonus - Summer Mix Tape pt. 2 with the Permanent Record Podcast

Bonus - Summer Mix Tape pt. 2 with the Permanent Record Podcast

Here's part two of Jon's appearance on the Permanent Record podcast. Brian, Sarah, Colby and Jon bring some of their favorite new wave songs to the table for a lively discussion. What tune is your favorite? And subscribe to these guys already! http://www.permanentrecordpodcast.com/

Jun 21, 2018 • 1:17:29

Episode 163 - Jack Hues of Wang Chung

Episode 163 - Jack Hues of Wang Chung

Wang Chung scored some of the biggest, and most ubiquitous, hits of the 80s with seminal songs like "Dance Hall Days," "Let's Go," and, the mother of all 80s hits, "Everybody Have Fun Tonight". Though Blender magazine may have ranked that hit the 3rd worst song of all time, it's never gone away and is as well known today as it was 30 years ago. Jack and I talk about how that song came to be and how it's affected his life. We also go deep on the rest of his career, his relationship to touring, hi

Jun 19, 2018 • 1:34:16

Bonus - Summer Mix Tape pt.1 with the Permanent Record Podcast

Bonus - Summer Mix Tape pt.1 with the Permanent Record Podcast

Jon was recently honored to be a guest on one of his favorite music podcasts Permanent Record. Husband and wife co-hosts Brian and Sarah Linnen do an excellent job deep diving the benchmark New Wave albums of the 80s featuring artists like Depeche Mode, Tears For Fears, Erasure and a-ha. If you haven't checked them out yet and you like that genre, get on it! For this we each picked a song we love to discuss for a Summer Mix Tape episode. I hope you enjoy it! Part two will be out next week.  http

Jun 15, 2018 • 1:24:00

Episode 162 - Eddie MacDonald of The Alarm

Episode 162 - Eddie MacDonald of The Alarm

The Alarm were one of the great bands of the Big Music movement of the 80s that included other seminal groups like U2, Big Country and Simple Minds. But, despite recording some of the best anthems of the era ("Sixty Eight Guns," "Strength," and "The Stand" etc), they never completely crossed over to the mainstream Top 40. It was perhaps the stress of this that caused frontman Mike Peters to famously leave the band abruptly in the early 90s, bringing an end of the classic Alarm line-up. This week

Jun 12, 2018 • 1:50:41

Bonus - Jon Brewer, Director of Beside Bowie: The Mick Ronson Story

Bonus - Jon Brewer, Director of Beside Bowie: The Mick Ronson Story

Last year music documentary filmmaker Jon Brewer released the excellent doc "Beside Bowie", which brought much-deserved attention to the life and contributions of David Bowie's original guitarist Mick Ronson. If you haven't seen it, the film is currently streaming on Hulu and is a must watch. On June 8th, a companion soundtrack to the film will be released featuring several Ronson highlights from the movie including solo tracks, live performances from the Freddie Mercury Tribute concert, and of

Jun 9, 2018 • 1:12:47

Episode 161 - Terence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya)

Episode 161 - Terence Trent D'Arby (Sananda Maitreya)

Sananda Maitreya has quite a story to tell. After scoring a bunch of hit songs ("Wishing Well", "Sign Your Name", "Delicate") and hit records with his former persona Terence Trent D'Arby, in 1995 he moved to Europe, changed his name and embarked on a career in "post-millennium rock", which is the title he gives to the many records he's put out since then under the Sananda Maitreya moniker. Last year he released the expansive, three-disc set Prometheus & Pandora and has recently released another

Jun 5, 2018 • 58:37

Episode 160 - Richie Fontana of Piper/Skatt Bros.

Episode 160 - Richie Fontana of Piper/Skatt Bros.

Drummer Richie Fontana has led an eventful life. He started out in the mid-70s with the killer rock band Piper. Today, they are probably best known as the launchpad for frontman Billy Squier. Piper was managed by Bill Aucoin, which led to Richie also working and touring with Kiss and playing on Paul Stanley's 1978 solo album. Piper's second album, Can't Wait, was produced by KISS mastermind/Aucoin Vice President Sean Delaney, which provided the bridge to Richie's second band the Skatt Bros. The

May 29, 2018 • 1:12:50

Episode 159 - Tarquin Gotch - music supervisor for John Hughes

Episode 159 - Tarquin Gotch - music supervisor for John Hughes

Few artists formed the culture of the 80s more than filmmaker John Hughes. And a huge ingredient in those films was the music. This week we talk with Tarquin Gotch who served as Hughes' music supervisor on classics like Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Some Kind of Wonderful, She's Having a Baby, and Planes, Trains and Automobiles. He also went on to co-produce films like Home Alone and Uncle Buck. Before working with Hughes, he did many other things in the music industry including A&R man for Warner B

May 22, 2018 • 1:23:46

Episode 158 - Rupert Hine

Episode 158 - Rupert Hine

After beginning his career as a challenging, almost avant garde solo artist, Rupert Hine fell into producing in the early 80s and went on to become one of the most successful of the last four decades. He's put his signature sound on loads of classic artists, but the ones we talk about in here include Saga, The Fixx, Howard Jones, Tina Turner, Kate Bush, Eight Seconds, Thompson Twins, Underworld, Stevie Nicks, Rush and Duncan Sheik. The man is full of fascinating stories that every music lover wi

May 15, 2018 • 2:56:16

Bonus - Jackie Clary

Bonus - Jackie Clary

The focus of this podcast has always been how do artists maintain careers in music over the long haul. How do they "pay their bills". And, up til now, we've always talked to musicians about that, but I thought it would be interesting to hear from a regular person who has carved out a career working on the business side of the music business. This is a conversation with my friend Jackie Clary who has worked in the music business for 20 years with stops at MTV and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. W

May 11, 2018 • 1:48:46

Episode 157 - EG Daily

Episode 157 - EG Daily

Yes, E.G. Daily has been an accomplished actor, voice over artist, and singer/songwriter for over 35 years, but to me she will always be the Queen of the 80s Movie Soundtrack. Her "unmistakable" voice can be heard in decade defining films like The Breakfast Club, Summer School, Scarface, and Better Off Dead, in which she also appeared. Plus, in addition to her own successful solo career, she's collaborated with artists like Giorgio Moroder, Jude Cole, Phil Oakey, Jellybean Benitez and the Cruzad

May 8, 2018 • 1:29:51

Recap v.2: March and April, the latest news, and Q&A

Recap v.2: March and April, the latest news, and Q&A

Jon and Jan tell what they really thought of the last few guests, plans for the future and answer some listener questions.

May 5, 2018 • 1:59:30

Ep 156 - HAPPY 3rd BIRTHDAY TO US! with Steve Farris of Mr. Mister

Ep 156 - HAPPY 3rd BIRTHDAY TO US! with Steve Farris of Mr. Mister

The Hustle is turning three this week! And to celebrate our guest is Steve Farris, guitarist for our most requested guests, Mr. Mister! Who would have guessed when that band of session musicians came together that their second album, 1985's Welcome to the Real World, would conquer the globe with the three gigantic hits "Is It Love" and two #1s "Broken Wings" and "Kyrie". Unfortunately, the bond that made Real World happen had grown toxic for the follow up album, 1987's Go On... which flopped mig

May 1, 2018 • 1:44:55

Bonus - Jon's Appearance on Glory Days Radio

Bonus - Jon's Appearance on Glory Days Radio

On a recent trip to Texas, Jon was invited to appear on Glory Days Radio with host Paul Underwood. On the show they talked about the Hustle, stories behind some of the episodes, and Jon got to pick some of his favorite songs that feature his favorite "magical moments" in them. Or, as Paul calls it, the part you shush your family when it comes up in the car. You even get to hear from Jon's wife and kids on how they feel about it all. Paul is the best and GDR is a wonderful show. Follow them on fa

Apr 27, 2018 • 1:36:34

Episode 155 - Dave Faulkner of the Hoodoo Gurus

Episode 155 - Dave Faulkner of the Hoodoo Gurus

Throughout the 80s and 90s, the Hoodoo Gurus elevated the art of hooky power pop showing a mastery few others of the era could emulate. And though they never landed that deserved crossover hit, they were mainstays on college radio with gems like "Bittersweet", "Come Anytime" and "What's My Scene". Though new releases have been few and far between the last 20 years, they are, rightfully, considered legends in their native Australia and still play shows to rapt audiences. In this conversation, fro

Apr 24, 2018 • 1:36:59

Episode 154 - Mark Opitz

Episode 154 - Mark Opitz

Mark Opitz is probably the most important Australian music producer in that country's history. Beginning in the mid-70s with AC/DC's Powerage album, Mark went on to define a generation's worth of rock music with his style he coined "sophisto-punk". In 1978 is produced the Angel's landmark album Face To Face and his legendary status was cemented. From there it was other Australian icons like Cold Chisel, Divinyls and Australian Crawl, as well as global phenoms INXS. Other credits we discuss in th

Apr 17, 2018 • 2:37:09

Episode 153 - Neville Staple of The Specials/Fun Boy Three/Solo

Episode 153 - Neville Staple of The Specials/Fun Boy Three/Solo

In the world of ska and the history of British alternative rock of the 70s and 80s, Neville Staple is practically royalty. Coming up with the pioneering Two-Tone group The Specials, Neville and his bandmates not only cut an indelible image stylistically, but politically as well by displaying blacks and whites cohabitating in the same band during a time of political unrest in the UK. After releasing one of the greatest debut albums in history, as well as a more expansive, but worthy follow up, Ne

Apr 10, 2018 • 1:00:48

Bonus - Blair Foster - Co-Director of Rolling Stone: Stories From the Edge

Bonus - Blair Foster - Co-Director of Rolling Stone: Stories From the Edge

Filmmaker Blair Foster is a 2-time Emmy winner and co-director of the documentary "Rolling Stone: Stories From the Edge" which chronicles the cultural impact of Rolling Stone magazine and its founder Jann Wenner on it's 50th anniversary. The film, which debuted on HBO last fall, is being expanded and is now available on iTunes and other streaming services. We dissect the format of the film, the choices she and co-director Alex Gibney made, the impact the magazine and its founder have had on popu

Apr 6, 2018 • 1:05:03

Episode 152 - Martha Davis of The Motels

Episode 152 - Martha Davis of The Motels

The Motels were one of the most successful bands to emerge from LA's New Wave scene. Lead by the unique vocals of frontwoman Martha Davis, the band scored three top 40 hits, including "Only the Lonely" and "Suddenly, Last Summer" which both peaked at #9 in 1982 and 1983 respectively and are still mainstays today. Eventually, Martha went solo in the mid-80s, but by then the wave had petered out and the spotlight had moved on. Since then, Martha's remained a draw on the nostaligia circuit, but tod

Apr 3, 2018 • 1:15:41

Episode 151 - Marq Torien of BulletBoys

Episode 151 - Marq Torien of BulletBoys

BulletBoys burst on the scene at the height of 80s hair metal with the super sexy "Smooth Up In Ya" in 1988. During the glory days of 80s rock, they partnered with Van Halen producer Ted Templeman on three classic albums before grunge began wreaking havoc on them and everybody else. Though Marq and his band may have slowed down, they never completely went away. They've been enjoying a creative resurgence recently with their excellent comeback album Elefante from 2015 and their brand new disc Fro

Mar 27, 2018 • 1:20:58

Episode 150 - Nick Heyward of Haircut 100/Solo

Episode 150 - Nick Heyward of Haircut 100/Solo

Nick Heyward has built a reputation as one of Britain's finest songwriters. His initial success came by fronting Haircut 100 in the early 80s and scoring major hits with "Love Plus One" and "Fantastic Day". Bad vibes led him to leave the band and go out on his own where he had continued success with standards like "Whistle Down the Wind" and "Kite". He's also racked up several excellent solo albums including 2017's wonderful Woodland Echoes, his first disc in almost 20 years. Here we talk about

Mar 20, 2018 • 1:24:27

Recap v.1: 2018 so far and Q&A

Recap v.1: 2018 so far and Q&A

Jon and Jan review the last couple of months, discuss plans for the future, and answer some of your mailbag questions.

Mar 16, 2018 • 1:39:38

Episode 149 - Ray Parker Jr.

Episode 149 - Ray Parker Jr.

Everybody remembers Ray Parker Jr. taking over the world in 1984 with the Ghostbusters theme. But, there is so much more to his story. He was one of the most sought after session guitarists of the 70s playing with everyone from Stevie Wonder to Marvin Gaye to Seals and Crofts. He also wrote hit songs for artists like Leo Sayer and Rufus with Chaka Khan, not to mention racking up a bunch of his own hits like "The Other Woman" and "A Woman Needs Love (Just Like You Do)" as both a solo artist and a

Mar 13, 2018 • 1:17:50

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.2: Side Projects

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground Vol.2: Side Projects

Jon once again joins Steve and Drew from Suburban Underground to play great songs (Jon's are, anyway) from the side projects of prominent alternative rock stars. We also rip each other new ones in the process. Who do you think comes out ahead with the best taste? And be sure to subscribe to SU on your favorite podcatcher for your weekly alternative mix tape.  https://suburbanunderground.podbean.com/

Mar 10, 2018 • 1:07:44

Episode 148 - Mike Lindup of Level 42

Episode 148 - Mike Lindup of Level 42

In the states, Level 42 may only be seen as two-hit-wonders thanks to the massive success of "Something About You' and "Lessons in Love" in the mid-80s. But around the rest of the world, Level 42 were viewed as a seriously complex group merging funk, r&b, jazz and rock in ways few others have ever done. Founding members bassist Mark King and keyboardist Mike Lindup finally closed up shop in the mid-90s, but reunited in 2006 and have steadily toured the world ever since. In this deep chat, Mike a

Mar 6, 2018 • 2:02:40

Bonus - Verdine White of Earth, Wind & Fire

Bonus - Verdine White of Earth, Wind & Fire

Earth Wind and Fire are one of the greatest and most influential groups in the history of music. It's more than just having hits - they established a level of greatness, of what is possible musically and spiritually, that many have aspired to, but few have reached. Lead by the vision of the late-great Maurice White, the group has torn through the last 45 years leaving a near perfect track record in their wake. Here we have a brief chat with bassist and founding member Verdine White about some of

Mar 2, 2018 • 53:13

Episode 147 - Steve Kilbey of The Church

Episode 147 - Steve Kilbey of The Church

Australian rock legends the Church have been an active part of the alternative scene for over 35 years. Their biggest global success may have been when "Under The Milky Way" reached #24 on the US pop charts in 1988, but they've never gone away and even released their 25th album, also one of their best, Man Woman Life Death Infinity last year. Steve's one of the most unfiltered guests we've ever featured on this show and is brutally honest when it comes to his drug addiction, financial state, and

Feb 27, 2018 • 1:36:50

Episode 146 - Brian Howe former lead singer of Bad Company

Episode 146 - Brian Howe former lead singer of Bad Company

Seventies rock icons Bad Company received a much-needed shot in the arm when founding members Simon Kirke and Mick Ralphs recruited relative newbie Brian Howe to replace the great Paul Rodgers. By that point, Brian had recently started to breakthrough when he sang on Ted Nugent's Penetrator record. With Brian's help, Bad Company reached a whole new audience and kept the name alive throughout the late 80s and early 90s with Howe-penned hits like "No Smoke Without Fire", "Holy Water" and "How Abou

Feb 20, 2018 • 1:40:36

Episode 145 - Burleigh Drummond of Ambrosia

Episode 145 - Burleigh Drummond of Ambrosia

The name Ambrosia has become synonymous with 70s soft rock gold thanks to enduring hits like "How Much I Feel" and "Biggest Part of Me". In truth, the band covered all genres - from prog to pop - during their 5-album run in the late70s - early 80s. Ambrosia's success can largely be contributed to the talent of former lead singer and primary songwriter David Pack. Unfortunately, he and the rest of the guys parted ways some time ago the band is now fronted by the supremely capable Ken Stacey. In t

Feb 13, 2018 • 1:14:51

Episode 144 - David Jenkins of Pablo Cruise

Episode 144 - David Jenkins of Pablo Cruise

This week it's frontman for THE quintessential "yacht rock" band Pablo Cruise. These days that type of 70s rock has been given that yacht rock label, but back in the day Pablo Cruise just recorded great breezy songs that reminded you of warm nights in the sun and sounded great on the radio. They racked up a bunch of hits between '77 and '81 like "Love Will Find a Way" and "Whatcha Gonna Do" before eventually calling it quits. Thanks to the never-ending thirst for their sunny sound, Pablo Cruise

Feb 6, 2018 • 1:16:24

Episode 143 - John Oates

Episode 143 - John Oates

Do we really need to list the accomplishments of John Oates? No way, he's been omnipresent in the best way for over 40 years. But, this last year he's really stepped out on his own. First off, he's releasing a new solo album, Arkansas, this Friday, Feb. 2nd! His recent move to Nashville has greatly influenced this latest offering which is a charming gumbo of rustic Americana and blues and bluegrass music. Also, last year he published his memoir, Change of Season, a wonderfully engaging read for

Jan 30, 2018 • 56:18

Episode 142 - Bill Janovitz of Buffalo Tom

Episode 142 - Bill Janovitz of Buffalo Tom

Buffalo Tom were (and remain) one of the most critically-acclaimed bands of the last 30 years. Starting out in Boston in the late 80s under the tutelage of J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr., Buffalo Tom really hit their stride in the early 90s with hallmark albums like 92's Let Me Come Over and 93's Big Red Letter Day featuring classic tracks like "Taillights Fade" and "Soda Jerk". Unfortunately, despite appearing on the TV show My So-Called Life, racking up a devout following and attracting a host of f

Jan 23, 2018 • 1:48:04

Episode 141 - Bobby Harris of the Dazz Band

Episode 141 - Bobby Harris of the Dazz Band

The Dazz Band were one of the best and most innovative funk and r&b acts of the 70s and 80s. They started out in Cleveland as Kinsman Dazz ("danceable jazz") putting out two successful albums produced by EWF's Philip Bailey (who stepped in when Marvin Gaye had to back out). They shortened their name when they signed with Motown and kicked off a string of hits on the r&b charts over the next decade. The band only crossed over to the pop Top 40 once when "Let It Whip" rose to #5 in 1982. That trac

Jan 16, 2018 • 1:24:29

Bonus - Q&A and Top 5 of 2017

Bonus - Q&A and Top 5 of 2017

Jan and Jon answer questions sent in by listeners, and rank their top 5 episodes of 2017

Jan 12, 2018 • 1:20:17

Episode 140 - Danielle Dax

Episode 140 - Danielle Dax

Danielle Dax was an artist in the truest sense of the word. Yeah, she had a successful music career during the 80s, but that was just one facet of her boundless creativity. Her career started with an avant-garde group called the Lemon Kittens when she didn't even know how to play an instrument. Experimentation and performance art remained her guiding force as her solo career took off and she garnered radio play on alternative stations with tracks like "Big Hollow Man", "Cat House", and "The Id P

Jan 9, 2018 • 1:12:15

Episode 139 - Michael Camacho of Sly Fox

Episode 139 - Michael Camacho of Sly Fox

For a duo with a hit as big as "Let's Go All The Way" was in 1986, there should be more to the Sly Fox story than there is. Brought together in an almost "boy band" fashion, Michael Camacho and Gary "Mudbone" Cooper only managed one album that featured one giant hit (#7 in 1986) and that was all she wrote. To this day, their one album, also titled Let's Go All the Way, has never been released on cd. This week Michael tells us how the band came together, what that brief moment in the spotlight wa

Jan 2, 2018 • 1:15:31

Episode 138 - Brad Elvis of Screams/The Elvis Brothers/Big Hello/The Handcuffs/The Romantics

Episode 138 - Brad Elvis of Screams/The Elvis Brothers/Big Hello/The Handcuffs/The Romantics

Chicago's Brad Elvis is both a power pop legend and a lifer. His career goes back 45 years and has passed through several excellent bands along the way. After coming up through the local ranks with piers like Cheap Trick, his first brush with greatness was drumming for the tragically short-lived Screams. After the band ended in 1980, he went on to form and play in the Elvis Brothers throughout the 80s, Big Hello in the 90s and has been focused on the Handcuffs with his wife, lead singer Chloe Or

Dec 26, 2017 • 1:35:20

Episode 137 - Bruce Thomas of Elvis Costello and the Attractions

Episode 137 - Bruce Thomas of Elvis Costello and the Attractions

There was a New Wave revolution happening in rock music in the late 70s and the poster boy for it was the bespectacled Elvis Costello and his band of Attractions, which included our guest this week bassist Bruce Thomas. While the band was leading a new charge, the various members were also sorting out a dynamic that saw Elvis rise as their clear leader, a move that never sat well with Bruce. Over the years, tensions mounted and Bruce eventually left the band. All of this, as well as his own musi

Dec 19, 2017 • 1:33:56

Bonus - A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Pat DiNizio of the Smithereens with John Montagna

Bonus - A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Pat DiNizio of the Smithereens with John Montagna

Regular listeners know how much the Smithereens mean to me. Sadly, frontman Pat DiNizio passed away at 62 on Tuesday night after suffering through poor health for many years. To discuss what the band meant to us we bring on musician John Montagna and share stories, interactions, and impact. What was supposed to be a 30 min chat turned into a 75 min discussion! It's hard to stop when two guys talk about what means most to them. And please check out John's podcast Radio 418. It's very similar to o

Dec 15, 2017 • 1:15:05

Episode 136 - Scott Wilk of Bone Symphony/Scott Wilk + The Walls

Episode 136 - Scott Wilk of Bone Symphony/Scott Wilk + The Walls

The 80s were the decade of the movie montage. And one of the classics is from Revenge of the Nerds when the guys find a frat house and begin fixing it up to the tune of "One Foot in Front of the Other" by a band called Bone Symphony. Our guest this week, Scott Wilk, was the lead singer of Bone Symphony and before that he fronted his own New Wave rock group called Scott Wilk + the Walls, where his sound drew regular comparisons to Elvis Costello. Later on that decade he partnered up with a young

Dec 12, 2017 • 1:20:24

Episode 135 - Steve Thompson - 7x Grammy Award Winning Producer

Episode 135 - Steve Thompson - 7x Grammy Award Winning Producer

Mega-producer Steve Thompson's career goes back 40 years and includes every genre of music from disco to heavy metal to alternative to hip-hop. Along the way he's collected 7 Grammy Awards for his work with artists such as Paul Simon, Whitney Houston, Blues Traveler and Korn. The two notorious projects he gets asked about the most are GnR's Appetite for Destruction and Metallica's ...And Justice For All. But, I wanted to chat with Steve about the alternative and pop side to his career. We hear s

Dec 6, 2017 • 2:06:28

Episode 134 - The Story of "867-5309/Jenny" with writer Alex Call and singer Tommy Tutone

Episode 134 - The Story of "867-5309/Jenny" with writer Alex Call and singer Tommy Tutone

This week we are going deep on one of the most iconic songs ever. "867-5309/Jenny" hit #4 on the US charts back in 1982 and has never left the public consciousness. It has to be the most famous phone number in history. First up this week we talk to the man who wrote that song, Alex Call. Alex began in the band Clover dating back to the height of the Haight/Ashbury days in San Francisco. Also notable about Clover is this is where a young Huey Lewis begins his career as well. By the early 80s, the

Nov 28, 2017 • 1:52:10

Episode 133 - Chris McLernon of Saigon Kick

Episode 133 - Chris McLernon of Saigon Kick

Though Chris McLernon was the bassist for hard rockers Saigon Kick during much of the 90s, his often hilarious story really begins in the late 80s when his first band Cold Sweat threw their hat in the hair metal ring and whiffed. They had it all - the hair, the spandex, the pyro - but it didn't take. Luckily, he got a second shot when he was asked to join Saigon Kick during a tumultuous time in the band's career. Though they never completely broke big, they managed massive success in parts of As

Nov 21, 2017 • 1:58:35

Bonus - Fran Strine, Director of Hired Gun

Bonus - Fran Strine, Director of Hired Gun

Hired Gun is one of the best rock docs of the last couple years. It details the realities of life as a struggling musician whose career is dependent on being employed by big artists. Imagine you go from nothing to being someone like Billy Joel's drummer. You now fly first class, stay in fancy hotels, and play in front of hundreds of thousands of people. Then, Billy decides to go a different direction and you're not only out of a job, but unlikely to ever find a gig as good as the one you just ha

Nov 17, 2017 • 59:21

Episode 132 - Jim Goodwin of The Call

Episode 132 - Jim Goodwin of The Call

The Call were one of the preeminent alternative bands of the 80s and early 90s. They never quite cracked the top 40, but had several hits on college radio like "Let The Day Begin", "Everywhere I Go" and "The Walls Came Down". Regular listeners know of my affection for the Lost Boys soundtrack, well they were the originators of "I Still Believe" which was covered excellently by former guest Tim Cappello (there's a great story about it in here). The band came to an end in the 90s and frontman Mich

Nov 14, 2017 • 1:47:40

Episode 131 - Jim Babjak of The Smithereens

Episode 131 - Jim Babjak of The Smithereens

To me, the Smithereens are the greatest American band of all time. And while each member deserves credit for being exceptional at what they do, a large part of the magic of the Smithereens is found in the sound and riffs of guitarist Jim Babjak. Here we talk about their flirtation with having hit records ("A Girl Like You" reached #38 in 1989 and "Too Much Passion" hit #37 is 1992), the financial struggles of being a respected niche band, how he survived their long dry spell, his solo material,

Nov 7, 2017 • 1:41:58

Episode 130 - Lol Tolhurst of The Cure

Episode 130 - Lol Tolhurst of The Cure

Surely, when Lol Tolhurst was growing up in the English suburb of Horley with his mate Robert Smith and the two decided to start a band, they couldn't have known the cultural impact they would have on millions of people throughout the world. Unfortunately, just as the Cure was cementing its place as alternative rock legends, Lol was spiraling downward with drugs and drink, ultimately getting himself kicked out of the band around the time of the their 1989 masterpiece Disintegration. Lol detailed

Oct 31, 2017 • 1:23:59

Encore - Happy Halloween with G Tom Mac

Encore - Happy Halloween with G Tom Mac

Since Halloween is next week and we have a very special guest lined up, I thought I'd repost my chat with Gerard McMahon (G Tom Mac) from 2015 because 1) it seems fitting since he's the man behind "Cry Little Sister" from the Lost Boys soundtrack, 2) the Lost Boys turned 30 this year, 3) there is some very exciting news in the G Tom Mac world happening right now that we might be talking to him about again soon regarding the Lost Boys Musical he's current working on, and 4) it's one of my favorit

Oct 26, 2017 • 1:25:29

Episode 129 - John Douglas of the Trashcan Sinatras

Episode 129 - John Douglas of the Trashcan Sinatras

The Trashcan Sinatras have been one of the most respected British pop bands of the last 30 years. Though they've only released six albums in that time, each one is an exercise in perfection and craft including last year's blissful Wild Pendulum. All the accolades in the world, however, don't make it easy being a cult band. Here, guitarist John Douglas and I discuss their current acoustic tour, the bands they came up with, the stories behind each album, and their writing process. If you're not al

Oct 24, 2017 • 1:10:38

Episode 128 - Alannah Myles

Episode 128 - Alannah Myles

Alannah Myles struck gold in 1989 when her gigantic hit "Black Velvet" reached #1 in the US. The song won her a Grammy for Best Female Rock Performance and achieved radio spins of over 5 million. It should have been smooth sailing from here, yet it wasn't. While she's mum on some of the details to protect the living, it's clear from her story that she has not had an easy road in the music business. In the wake of shining a light on abusive men in power like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump, you

Oct 17, 2017 • 1:17:03

Bonus - A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Tom Petty with Steve Spears

Bonus - A Discussion on the Death and Legacy of Tom Petty with Steve Spears

As is our tradition, in the wake of the shocking death of Tom Petty we bring back our resident Dr. Death - Steve Spears of the Stuck in the 80s podcast to make sense of it all.

Oct 12, 2017 • 33:12

Episode 127 - Matthew Seligman of the Soft Boys/Thompson Twins

Episode 127 - Matthew Seligman of the Soft Boys/Thompson Twins

In the 80s bassist Matthew Seligman was a part of some of the best alternative music coming out of England. Within the span of just a few months he managed to join the Soft Boys near the end of their run and Thompson Twins near the beginning of theirs. And shortly thereafter he forged longstanding partnerships with Robyn Hitchcock and especially Thomas Dolby, contributing to the excellent music they were producing during that decade. While this was happening, his expertise served additional arti

Oct 10, 2017 • 1:47:09

Bonus - Joe "Handyman" Negri

Bonus - Joe "Handyman" Negri

Anyone over the age of 40 probably grew up watching Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood where we learned valuable life lesson's, visited the Land of Make Believe, and interacted with his cast of characters like Mr. McFeely, Lady Aberlin, Chef Brockett and, of course, Joe "Handyman" Negri. What you may not know is that Joe is a highly-respected jazz guitarist in the mold of Django Reinhardt and at 91 years old, continues to perform and collaborate with jazz luminaries like Michael Feinstein. We didn't have

Oct 5, 2017 • 26:37

Episode 126 - IN MEMORIAM - Dennis Dragon of the Surf Punks

Episode 126 - IN MEMORIAM - Dennis Dragon of the Surf Punks

Prior to being the drummer of the legendary Surf Punks, Dennis Dragon earned his bona fides co-producing a little song his brother Daryl was working on with his wife, Toni. Well, that tune became "Love Will Keep Us Together" and Daryl and Toni became the Captain and Tennille. The success from that song propelled him to a long career in production and audio-engineering, but along the way he befriended Drew Steel and the two started the Surf Punks almost as a lark. Their 1980 debut album My Beach

Oct 3, 2017 • 52:52

Bonus - Matthew Nelson of Nelson

Bonus - Matthew Nelson of Nelson

Nelson basically owned 1990 and '91. But, despite having four top 40 hits and selling five million copies of their debut album After The Rain, the Nelson twins, Matthew and Gunnar, couldn't get a follow up released for five years and by then tastes had changed and the moment had passed. Still, the brothers have carried on entertaining crowds playing their own music, doing Christmas concerts, and even performances showcasing their famous dad Rick's material. They've never gone away, show business

Sep 30, 2017 • 46:32

Episode 125 - Kiki Dee

Episode 125 - Kiki Dee

Everyone remembers Kiki Dee for her #1 duet with Elton John, "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" from 1976. But, did you know she is approaching 55 years in the music business? After starting out as a teenager with singers like Dusty Springfield, she "rocketed" to stardom when she was signed to Elton's Rocket Records in the early 70s (after a stint at Motown) and eventually topped the charts. Though there have been ups and downs, she's stayed at it all these years. For the last several years she's been

Sep 26, 2017 • 1:08:01

Episode 124 - Marshall Crenshaw

Episode 124 - Marshall Crenshaw

After bursting out in the early 80s with one of the greatest debuts in modern rock history, and, thus, rock critics falling all over him as the next big thing, Marshall Crenshaw has settled into a career as a sort of highly respected cult artist. He may not be the household name his fans think he deserves to be, but he's forged a steady career playing by his own rules and gaining mounds of street cred in the process. Here we talk about the decision to work with producer Steve Lilywhite on his se

Sep 19, 2017 • 1:33:18

Episode 123 - Robert LaRoche of the Sighs

Episode 123 - Robert LaRoche of the Sighs

The Sighs were an excellent power pop/rock band in the early 90s with a ton of promise. They released a stellar debut album, What Goes On, in 1992 that was produced by the great Ed Stasium and were starting to get some traction, but ultimately fell victim to almost every pitfall on the "shoulda been" checklist - label was sold, no marketing, poor distribution, internal label politics, etc. Frontman Robert LaRoche has continued to soldier on undaunted, despite it never being easy. Today, he's pri

Sep 12, 2017 • 1:30:03

Bonus - The Songwriting and Collaboration Panel from the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo

Bonus - The Songwriting and Collaboration Panel from the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo

Jon was honored to host this panel at the Rock n Pod Expo with four amazing songwriters. Former guests Walter Egan (ep 23) and Robert White Johnson (ep 27), joined future guests Gunnar Nelson and Anthony Corder of Tora Tora each providing a unique glimpse into their individual processes, the stories behind some of their biggest hits, and the influential and big-name collaborators they've worked with over the years. I wish the sound quality was better, but it's still a fascinating historical docu

Sep 6, 2017 • 58:10

Episode 122 - Oleta Adams

Episode 122 - Oleta Adams

The story on Oleta Adams is that she was discovered playing piano in a Kansas City hotel bar by the guys from Tears For Fears, who then brought her in to sing on their 1989 album The Seeds of Love, thus launching her stellar solo career. As you'll find from our conversation, it wasn't exactly that simple. Oleta had been toiling away for over a decade on the hotel entertainment circuit before Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith followed through on the promises many before them had made and broken. She

Sep 5, 2017 • 1:36:10

Bonus - The (Notorious) Expo Retro

Bonus - The (Notorious) Expo Retro

Now that the smoke has cleared and most people were fine with what I said, I'll go ahead and put this out even though most of you have heard it by this point. This is the original version, maybe slightly more unfiltered than what came out in the revised version. My only regret is that I forgot to mention a couple of our beautiful fans I got to meet there. Love you guys. I corrected it in the second version, but let's let this original recording be the one that remains.

Sep 4, 2017 • 36:49

Episode 121 - Russ Ballard

Episode 121 - Russ Ballard

Russ Ballard is one of the most successful songwriters of the rock era. Artists from Ace Frehley to America have scored with tunes written by the man. Russ has also shepherded a successful solo career which, oddly, never took off quite as strongly as the success others were having recording those same songs. We talk about why that might be as well as his days in Argent and earlier, what makes a good pop song, and we get insight into some of the people he's worked with after over 50 years in the

Aug 29, 2017 • 1:38:15

Bonus - Gary Corbett Live From the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo

Bonus - Gary Corbett Live From the Nashville Rock n Pod Expo

These days, Gary Corbett may be best known for his time in Cinderella and as the touring keyboard player with Kiss. What everyone may not know is that he actually comes from a pop background. He started out in the new wave band Tom Dickie and the Desires, but his first brush with success was when Cyndi Lauper recorded a little song he co-wrote called "She Bop". That tune went on to be a huge hit and his career has been building ever since. This led to working with artists like Debbie Gibson and

Aug 28, 2017 • 27:29

Episode 120 - John Parr

Episode 120 - John Parr

John Parr was one of the most promising artists of the 80s. He broke out in 1984 with the decent-sized hit "Naughty Naughty" (#23), but then he hit the jackpot when his theme for the movie St. Elmo's Fire, "Man In Motion", topped the charts in 1985. This should have launched him into the stratosphere with other heavyweights like Bryan Adams and Eddie Money, but it didn't. Once again, label politics stifled what should have been a big career. John did carry on for a few more years, recording seve

Aug 22, 2017 • 1:21:26

Episode 119 - Stephen Thomas Erlewine, Senior Pop Editor at Allmusic

Episode 119 - Stephen Thomas Erlewine, Senior Pop Editor at Allmusic

We go in a slightly different direction with this week's guest, Stephen Thomas Erlewine, Senior Pop Editor at Allmusic! "Tom" has been with the publication since the beginning making him one of the most frequently read music critics in the world. We break this conversation into three parts - 1) how does Allmusic work, 2) the current state of music criticism, and 3) our personal bests and worsts. We also play a handful of his favorite songs. It's a fascinating look at a writer whose name is to mu

Aug 15, 2017 • 2:11:52

Episode 118 - Steve "Eddie" Rice of Eddie and the Tide

Episode 118 - Steve "Eddie" Rice of Eddie and the Tide

Eddie and the Tide were a great Bay Area rock band of the early 80s that mixed heartland rock with some new wave flair, much like contemporaries Huey Lewis and the News and Greg Kihn. Over the course of the decade, they released five great albums (the second was produced by Eddie Money), but while their sound got sleeker and sleeker, no doubt for commercial purposes, that mass crossover never quite happened and the band called it quit as the decade was ending. These days, they may be best known

Aug 8, 2017 • 1:23:15

Episode 117 - Trevor Steel of The Escape Club

Episode 117 - Trevor Steel of The Escape Club

The Escape Club had one of the biggest and most inescapable hits of the 80s with their 1988 number one blockbuster "Wild Wild West". Contrary to popular belief, they are not one-hit-wonders, and cracked the code again in 1991 when their balled "I'll Be There" hit the top 10 as well. Frontman Trevor Steel discusses the effects a number one smash has had on his life and, surprisingly, it isn't the consistent windfall huge hits have been for other guests we've featured on the show. He's had to pivo

Aug 1, 2017 • 57:06

Episode 116 - Froilan Sosa of Nuclear Valdez

Episode 116 - Froilan Sosa of Nuclear Valdez

Nuclear Valdez were an excellent and highly buzzed about alternative rock band out of Miami in the late 80s. A lot of the hype centered around what shouldn't be that unique of a thing, but is, the fact that they were all Hispanic. Their debut album, 1989's I Am I with it's debut single "Summer" made a splash and the band was invited to perform on one of the very first MTV Unplugged episodes. Unfortunately, the label never put their full muscle behind the band (even though similar artists like th

Jul 25, 2017 • 48:11

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground: 4 Songs That Shoulda Been Hits

Bonus - The Hustle vs. Suburban Underground: 4 Songs That Shoulda Been Hits

Jon was invited on Suburban Underground this week, one of his favorite radio programs (Bedford 105 in New Hampshire). Hosts Drew and Steve challenged all of us to bring a song from the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s that should have been a hit and then defend our choices. We need you to tell us who you think has the best taste! Suburban Underground is a weekly show that plays excellent alternative rock that's under the radar or hasn't been heard in a while. It's also a podcast! Please subscribe for you

Jul 23, 2017 • 1:03:31

Episode 115 - Dave Gregory of XTC/Big Big Train

Episode 115 - Dave Gregory of XTC/Big Big Train

XTC were one of the most beloved bands of the burgeoning alternative rock era. Armed with catchy and witty songs that leaned to the quirkier side of pop music, they produced a steady stream of excellent records from the late 70s until their demise in the 90s. Guitarist Dave Gregory shares with us some refreshingly honest stories about the challenges of being in the band such as not being able to tour and clashes with famous producers, but also the highs of recording such great music. Today, Dave

Jul 18, 2017 • 1:26:24

Episode 114 - Gilson Lavis of Squeeze

Episode 114 - Gilson Lavis of Squeeze

Squeeze were one of the most beloved bands of the modern rock era and sitting at the center of the band was drummer Gilson Lavis. Always looking like a man out of time, looking smart and gentlemanly in the alternative UK underground, Gilson contributed to some of the best and most revered pop songs of the last 40 years like "Tempted", "Cool For Cats", and "Pulling Mussels From a Shell". He's been out of the band for 25 years now, but today he's employed by former bandmate Jools Holland in his Rh

Jul 12, 2017 • 1:26:30

Bonus - Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull

Bonus - Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull

This is a busy year for Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson. For starters, there's a new String Quartet album of JT classics performed by the Carducci Quartet. In addition, this year marks the 40th anniversary of maybe the most formative album in my life, Songs From The Wood. He only had 20 mins to chat, so we discussed where Songs From the Wood fits in their canon and how the String Quartet album came to be, as well as a few nerdy things I've always wondered about. I could have kept him for hours! http:

Jul 8, 2017 • 38:04

Episode 113 - Lee Greenwood

Episode 113 - Lee Greenwood

Today is Independence Day in America and who better to celebrate with than Lee Greenwood! By now, his "God Bless the USA" has basically become another unofficial national anthem. He's performed the song for several Presidents, including at Donald Trump's inauguration in January. This is a unique opportunity to get to know the man behind the song. He had been a successful country singer in the early 80s before his signature tune took over his life. He talks candidly about how it's blessed his lif

Jul 4, 2017 • 1:02:42

Episode 112 - Don McLean

Episode 112 - Don McLean

Believe it or not, Don McLean has always felt like a second-class citizen in the music business. Despite over 45 years of success, and the credit of writing one of the most important songs in the history of recorded music with "American Pie", as well as many other hits, Don feels he's had to fight to be taken seriously. In this short, but candid conversation, we discuss why that is, what went into the writing of his legendary song, how he finally became a wealthy man, and his astonishment over i

Jun 27, 2017 • 50:04

Episode 111 - John Hall of Orleans / Solo

Episode 111 - John Hall of Orleans / Solo

Orleans were another beloved soft-rock band of the 70s scoring two giant hits with "Dance With Me" and the ever-present "Still The One", which remains one of those great tunes that never completely goes away. Frontman John Hall has had a very unique path through life for a rock star. He went on to serve two terms as a congressman from New York and he's written a book about his experience called "Still The One: A Rock n Roll Journey to Congress and Back" that's worth your attention if you're into

Jun 20, 2017 • 1:28:09

Episode 110 - David Muse and Rick Roberts of Firefall

Episode 110 - David Muse and Rick Roberts of Firefall

When you think about it, Firefall were one of the original super groups. With members hailing from legendary acts like the Flying Burrito Brothers, the Byrds, and Spirt, success must have seemed imminent to these seasoned vets. Buoyed by the incredible songwriting of frontman Rick Roberts, Firefall score half a dozen top 40 hits ("You Are the Woman", "Just Remember I Love You", etc) and had a pretty good run there for a while. The band has split up and come back together many times over the year

Jun 13, 2017 • 1:33:20

Episode 109 - Hirsh Gardner of New England

Episode 109 - Hirsh Gardner of New England

New England were another one of those great rock bands of the late 70s/early 80s that deserved more. So many things were in place to make them successful - they were managed by Kiss's manager Bill Aucoin, opened many shows for Kiss over the years, and they released three excellent albums between '79 and '81, each produced by a legend (Paul Stanley, Mike Stone and Todd Rundgren respectively) - yet it didn't happen. They did manage to crack the pop charts once when "Don't Ever Wanna Lose Ya" reach

Jun 6, 2017 • 1:21:58

Episode 108 - Tracey and Melissa Belland of Voice Of The Beehive

Episode 108 - Tracey and Melissa Belland of Voice Of The Beehive

Sisters Tracey and Melissa Belland grew up loving the alternative music coming out of Britain in the 80s. So, instead of sitting idly, they decided to move to the UK and start a band like their heroes, thus Voice of the Beehive. They had a good run there for a while, releasing three fun-filled albums between 1988 and 1995 and though they never crossed over to the pop charts, they did score a number of decent alternative hits. Eventually, the girls decided it wasn't worth continuing to pursue thi

May 30, 2017 • 1:14:22

Episode 107 - Mike Edwards of Jesus Jones

Episode 107 - Mike Edwards of Jesus Jones

Jesus Jones broke big in 1991 when their second album Doubt catapulted them into one of the biggest bands in the world. Hits like the still ever-present "Right Here Right Now" have never gone away, and have provided a nice living for lead singer Mike Edwards. So, expectations were high when they released the follow-up, 1993's Perverse. Unfortunately, that album underperformed mightily and the Jesus Jones bubble burst. The band released a couple more albums, but to less fanfare. Today, Mike and t

May 23, 2017 • 59:56

Episode 106 - Paul Engemann of Device/Animotion

Episode 106 - Paul Engemann of Device/Animotion

Paul grew up in the music industry of Los Angeles where hanging out with famous rock stars was no big deal. His dad worked for Capitol Records and helped discover acts like the Beach Boys and Bob Seger while his mom was an in demand session singer. After serving a mission for the LDS church, Paul dove headfirst into his own music career with his first major break through being a fruitful collaboration with producing icon Giorgio Moroder. From there he was selected to front a band put together by

May 16, 2017 • 1:23:49

Episode 105 - Clark Datchler of Johnny Hates Jazz/Solo

Episode 105 - Clark Datchler of Johnny Hates Jazz/Solo

Johnny Hates Jazz was about to get big. Real big. In 1987 their seminal hit "Shattered Dreams" just hit #2 in the US (other singles did well in the UK and other parts of the world), they had a memorable band name, sleek videos, and the future looked bright. But, suddenly front man Clark Datchler decided he needed to leave the band and venture out on his own. In this engrossing conversation, Clark details what lead him to make that decision and how it impacted his bandmates. Basically, along with

May 9, 2017 • 1:13:56

Ep 104 - HAPPY 2nd BIRTHDAY TO US! with Mel Gaynor of Simple Minds

Ep 104 - HAPPY 2nd BIRTHDAY TO US! with Mel Gaynor of Simple Minds

Happy 2nd Birthday to us!   This week we celebrate by having as our guest, one of the greatest drummers of the British alternative scene, Mel Gaynor of Simple Minds! Mel's the unmistakable beat behind iconic tracks like "Waterfront", "Alive and Kicking", "Promised You a Miracle" and, of course, "Don't You (Forget About Me)". Mel is now working on his first ever solo album set for release later this year which could include a US tour! We talk about why sometimes he gets the call to be in Simple M

May 2, 2017 • 58:22

Episode 103 - Max Carl of .38 Special/Grand Funk Railroad/Solo

Episode 103 - Max Carl of .38 Special/Grand Funk Railroad/Solo

People who know will tell you that Max Carl has one of the greatest voices of any living soul singer, white or black. Max may not be a household name, but he's pieced together a successful workmanlike career for over 40 years. He's put out a few solo albums dating back to the mid-70s, he's fronted a few successful bands, namely Jack Mack & the Heart Attack, .38 Special, and Grand Funk Railroad where he's been employed for going on 17 years. He's written songs for artists like Kenny Loggins,

Apr 25, 2017 • 1:40:03

Episode 102 - Genya Ravan

Episode 102 - Genya Ravan

The word pioneer gets thrown around a lot, but in the case of Genya Ravan it is well-earned. Genya's career has included so many "firsts", it's a crime she isn't a household name. She went from being a virginal topless model to fronting the first ever all-girl group signed to a major label with Goldie and the Gingerbreads. From there she led the popular blues/jazz group Ten Wheel Drive before going solo in the 70s and releasing a number of stellar solo albums (especially 1978's Urban Desire and

Apr 18, 2017 • 1:22:22

Episode 101 - Henry Gross

Episode 101 - Henry Gross

The 70s were a beautiful time for earnest, heartfelt singer-songwriters. One of the most versatile was Henry Gross, whose one and only hit was 1976's "Shannon". This tune about Beach Boy Carl Wilson's dead dog reached #6 in 1976 and placed Henry alongside contemporaries like James Taylor and Jim Croce as a force to be reckoned with. Henry is also an example of perseverance because, though "Shannon" was as good as it got on the charts, he has continued to record and perform, never losing his thir

Apr 11, 2017 • 1:09:24

Episode 100 - Stu Cook of Creedence Clearwater Revival

Episode 100 - Stu Cook of Creedence Clearwater Revival

This week we celebrate the big 100 with Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Stu Cook, bassist for the legendary Creedence Clearwater Revival! Everyone knows and loves the music of CCR, but sadly the band has been fraught with tension almost from the beginning. In this intensely candid conversation, Stu lays out the reasons for much of the dysfunction. It basically comes down to lead-singer and main songwriter John Fogerty on one side and Stu and drummer Doug Clifford on the other. Thankfully, Stu and Do

Apr 4, 2017 • 1:22:28

Episode 99 - Harry Wayne Casey of KC and the Sunshine Band

Episode 99 - Harry Wayne Casey of KC and the Sunshine Band

What can you say that hasn't already been said about an artist that defined a decade? We're kicking off our series on the 70s with one of the biggest musicians in history - Harry Wayne Casey, leader of KC and the Sunshine Band! They had dozens of hits you know by heart and sold 100 million records in the process. So, how does Harry look back on his career? We talk about those dark retirement years in the 80s, what inspired him to write such infectious songs, the literal fallout of the Disco Suck

Mar 28, 2017 • 45:58

Episode 98 - Dana Dane

Episode 98 - Dana Dane

Dana Dane came up in the rap game out of the Fort Green projects of Brooklyn with his best friend Slick Rick in the mid-80s. He created quite a stir in the underground with his debut album Dana Dane With Fame and lead single "Cinderfella Dana Dane". Even though the future looked bright for Dana, and with With Fame selling a promising half a million copies, two subsequent albums never quite caught on and he pretty much left recording after his third album in 1995. But, these challenges just cause

Mar 21, 2017 • 58:21

Episode 97 - DJ Minutemix of P.M. Dawn

Episode 97 - DJ Minutemix of P.M. Dawn

P.M. Dawn were one of the most revolutionary voices in hip-hop history and, frankly, they don't get the credit they deserve. Led by primary creative visionary Prince Be, the sibling duo brought colors and textures to rap that weren't there before and have influenced the more creative hip-hop we hear today. Sadly, Prince Be passed away last year, one of the many heart-breaking deaths from 2016, putting an end to a singular vision and voice. We are honored to have his partner and brother DJ Minute

Mar 14, 2017 • 1:34:38

Episode 96 - Hilly Michaels

Episode 96 - Hilly Michaels

Drummer Hilly Michaels has had one of the juiciest careers in rock. Beginnig from his early teenage days making music with best chum Michael Bolton, Hilly's path has taken him from the top to the bottom and back again. In the 70s, a tight friendship with Mick Ronson paved the way for collaborations with everyone from John Mellencamp to Ian Hunter to Ellen Foley. He even joined Sparks there for a while as well as the Dan Hartman Band with mysterious recluse Vinnie Vincent. He was even invited to

Mar 7, 2017 • 1:46:15

Episode 95 - Ben Volpeliere-Pierrot of Curiosity Killed the Cat

Episode 95 - Ben Volpeliere-Pierrot of Curiosity Killed the Cat

1987 was a great year for alternative blue-eyed soul music coming out of the UK. Bands like Breathe, Swing Out Sister, the Kane Gang and Hipsway brought a highly sophisticated sound to pop and dance music with a lot of funky horns and bass. My favorite of these groups was Curiosity Killed the Cat who did well in the UK, but had only one near-miss single in the states with "Misfit" which reached #42 that year. Part of CKTC's magic was the soulful voice of lead singer Ben Volpeliere-Pierrot. Unfor

Feb 28, 2017 • 47:19

Episode 94 - Kimberley Rew of Katrina and the Waves/The Soft Boys/Solo

Episode 94 - Kimberley Rew of Katrina and the Waves/The Soft Boys/Solo

Does it get anymore "indelible" than maybe the most long-lasting hit of the 80s, "Walking On Sunshine" by Katrina and the Waves? This #9 hit from 1985 has continued to live on for decades thanks to its use in everything from movie trailers to commercials. Kimberley Rew is the man that wrote that song, as well as most other songs for Katrina and the Waves, as well as being their guitarist. What casual fans of the band may not know is that there are dozens of primo power pop gems in their catalog

Feb 21, 2017 • 56:38

Episode 93 - Dennis Seaton of Musical Youth

Episode 93 - Dennis Seaton of Musical Youth

Who can ever forget Musical Youth, those five cute black kids from Birmingham England who had a major worldwide smash with 1983's "Pass The Dutchie". The group, who it should be said wrote many of their own songs and played their own instruments, put out two albums before calling it quits while still in their teens. Unfortunately, some of the traps of life after child stardom crept in - financial problems, legal issues, death. Co-lead singer Dennis Seaton passes on to us some of his well-earned

Feb 14, 2017 • 1:45:03

Episode 92 - Gary Burke of The Breakfast Club

Episode 92 - Gary Burke of The Breakfast Club

The Breakfast Club were a fun dance/pop group who put out one album, which included their one and only hit, "Right On Track" which reached #7 in 1987. Unfortunately, that's all she wrote for band. What makes them a fascinating bit of rock history is that they originated as a punk band in NYC in the laet 70s and their drummer was none other than Madonna! Bassist Gary Burke recounts those early days with pre-fame Madonna as well as how the Breakfast Club managed to change directions and become a s

Feb 7, 2017 • 1:30:10

Episode 91 - Valerie Day and John Smith of Nu Shooz

Episode 91 - Valerie Day and John Smith of Nu Shooz

When talking about the indelible hits of the 80s, it doesn't get much bigger than "I Can't Wait" by Nu Shooz. Led by the husband and wife team of John Smith and Valerie Day, Nu Shooz finally hit the maintstream after years of plugging away on the Portland, OR club scene when "I Can't Wait" reached #3 on the pop charts (#1 on the dance chart) in 1986, embedding one of the most "iconic" basslines into the brains of music fans around the world. Their major label debut album, Poolside, also featured

Jan 31, 2017 • 1:26:26

Episode 90 - Bill Wadhams of Animotion

Episode 90 - Bill Wadhams of Animotion

No series on the indelible hits of the 80s would be complete without showcasing the enduring "Obsession" by new wavers Animotion. This week we talk to co-lead singer Bill Wadhams and learn about how their biggest hit came into being and how it effected his career for good and bad. Consider this - you've just achieved world-wide fame, but on very unique terms you weren't mentally prepared for. In the process, the song becomes bigger than you and your talent and abilities get overshadowed. This bi

Jan 24, 2017 • 1:27:58

Episode 89 - Nick Van Eede of Cutting Crew

Episode 89 - Nick Van Eede of Cutting Crew

Cutting Crew made a huge splash with their debut album Broadcast in 1986, which featured three top 40 hits including the #1 smash "(I Just) Died In Your Arms". Lead singer Nick Van Eede had the musical chops and hunky good looks to catapult a great band into the mainstream. Unfortunately, a long delayed second album cost the group the momentum it needed to stay there, and Nick's broader and more epic songwriting lost some pop sensibility in the process. They sadly never regained their stature. O

Jan 17, 2017 • 1:08:55

Bonus - A discussion on the death and legacy of George Michael with Steve Spears

Bonus - A discussion on the death and legacy of George Michael with Steve Spears

2016 just couldn't go quietly, taking the legend George Michael away on Christmas day. To discuss his career and legacy, as well as his untimely death, we bring back Steve Spears of the popular Stuck in the 80s podcast to make sense of it all.

Jan 12, 2017 • 36:48

Episode 88 - Fee Waybill of The Tubes

Episode 88 - Fee Waybill of The Tubes

The Tubes were revolutionary for their time, mixing rock music and theatricality in a way few others were doing. At the center stage stood Fee Waybill, one of the greatest frontmen in rock history and one of the most fascinating entertainers ever. Though the Tubes staged legendary performances, they didn't garner any hits until the early 80s when they teamed up with a young David Foster and released singles like "She's a Beauty" and "Don't Want to Wait Anymore" that still get played today. Unfor

Jan 10, 2017 • 2:31:08

Episode 87 - Wally Palmar of The Romantics

Episode 87 - Wally Palmar of The Romantics

We're kicking off a series on the artists behind some of the indelible hits of the 80s with a legend, Wally Palmar of the Romantics! They are one of the most successful power pop bands ever and recorded a couple of hits that are still ubiquitous today like "Talking In Your Sleep" and, of course, "What I Like About You" (which was actually not a big hit when it came out in 1980). Despite some well-deserved success and a healthy touring schedule today, there were some lean years in the middle that

Jan 3, 2017 • 1:11:39

Episode 86 - Kevin Russell of 707/Solo

Episode 86 - Kevin Russell of 707/Solo

707 were one of the underappreciated AOR bands of the early 80s. They should have been right up there with Foreigner and tourmates REO Speedwagon, but it never quite got as big. They did score one moderate hit with "I Could Be Good For You" from their debut album which reached #52 in 1980. After that a couple more excellent melodic-rock albums came out before the band called it quits. Guitarist Kevin Russell went on to have a successful career as a side man, slinger for hire, and special guest p

Dec 27, 2016 • 1:39:59

Episode 85 - Cleveland Rocks! with Mark Avsec of Wild Cherry/Breathless/Donnie Iris and Jonah Koslen of Michael Stanley Band/Breathless/Solo

Episode 85 - Cleveland Rocks! with Mark Avsec of Wild Cherry/Breathless/Donnie Iris and Jonah Koslen of Michael Stanley Band/Breathless/Solo

This week we pay respects once again to the great music city of Cleveland with a local legend two-fer.  First up is keyboardist and songwriter Mark Avsec. Mark's first big break was when he joined Wild Cherry ("Play That Funky Music") in the mid-70s before then jumping to Jonah's new band Breathless for two excellent albums in the latter part of the decade. From there he forged what would be the defining musical relationship of his life when he and Donnie Iris joined forces for a run that contin

Dec 20, 2016 • 1:58:48

Episode 84 - Susan Ottaviano of Book of Love

Episode 84 - Susan Ottaviano of Book of Love

Book of Love were one of the key synth pop bands of the 80s and early 90s. Though they never reached the level of global success that colleagues like Depeche Mode or Erasure did, they had a dozen or so big hits on the dance charts with their patented mixture of charming melodies and simple lyrics. The 90s weren't kind to Book of Love (or any of the bands like them) so Susan pivoted to a career as a food stylist and photographer. In this candid conversation, she's refreshingly honest about the ch

Dec 13, 2016 • 1:02:34

Episode 83 - Lesley Woods of The Au Pairs

Episode 83 - Lesley Woods of The Au Pairs

The Au Pairs were one of the great British post-punk bands of the late 70s/early 80s. History has shown they were also one of the most revolutionary. Their aggressive mix of political screeds encased in jagged, in your face songs set them apart with bands like The Slits and Gang of Four from the mainstream. She won't say it herself, but Lesley's image as a lesbian icon set them apart even further. She doesn't fully embrace her role as a pioneer of the time, but while rallying against Thatcher ma

Dec 6, 2016 • 1:10:29

Episode 82 - John Lever of The Chameleons/The Red-Sided Garter Snakes

Episode 82 - John Lever of The Chameleons/The Red-Sided Garter Snakes

In my humble opinion, The Chameleons are possibly the most underrated band of all-time, most certainly of the 80s. Every single fan of The Cure or The Smiths should also own their three core albums (Script of the Bridge, What Does Anything Mean, Basically? and my favorite Strange Times). Unfortunately, there is a lot of drama in the history of that band. I set out to tell their story, but the bad blood and hurt feelings were insurmountable. Luckily, drummer John Lever granted some time to discus

Nov 29, 2016 • 59:30

Episode 81 - David Newton of The Mighty Lemon Drops

Episode 81 - David Newton of The Mighty Lemon Drops

Something magical was happening in Britain in the 80s. The country produced amazing, genre-defining bands throughout the entire decade with legends like The Smiths, Simple Minds, Echo and the Bunnymen, Psychedelic Furs (I could go on and on) informing what would become alternative rock and/or post-punk. One of the great bands of that era were The Mighty Lemon Drops. Armed with some sugary sweet melodies, the Lemon Drops may not have hit the historic heights as some of those bands, but they made

Nov 22, 2016 • 1:16:39

Episode 80 - Sue Saad of Sue Saad and the Next

Episode 80 - Sue Saad of Sue Saad and the Next

Sue Saad was the frontwoman for the great Sue Saad and the Next, another in a long line of excellent bands that should have been much bigger. They were discovered in L.A. in the late 70s by Richard Perry of Planet Records and released one promising self-titled album in 1980 that reached #131 on the charts and was gaining steam in Europe. Unfortunately, as he's done with other guests of this show, Perry didn't put any marketing muscle behind the band and SSTN began to wither away. Thankfully, fil

Nov 15, 2016 • 1:20:56

Episode 79 - Mike Reno of Loverboy

Episode 79 - Mike Reno of Loverboy

Loverboy were one of the most popular rock bands of the 80s producing a bunch of hits and selling millions of records. Thankfully, they're enjoying a bit of a resurgence these days thanks to that National Car Rental ad featuring them and one of their biggest hits, "Lovin' Every Minute of It". In this exclusive interview lead singer Mike Reno talks about the effects of grunge on their career, the secret sauce to keeping the original band together, and what goes into deciding who to tour with. We

Nov 8, 2016 • 38:28

Episode 78 - Ellen Foley

Episode 78 - Ellen Foley

Ellen Foley burst onto the music scene in a gigantic way when she sang "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" with Meat Loaf on his mega-smash Bat Out of Hell album. That incredible performance got her a record deal and she put out three albums with some of the biggest legends in the biz behind the boards (Ian Hunter, Mick Ronson, The Clash, Vini Poncia, etc). In the early 80s she decided to focus on her acting career and was rewarded with a starring role on the first season of Night Court, as well a

Nov 1, 2016 • 1:02:45

Encore - Bruce Blackman of Starbuck

Encore - Bruce Blackman of Starbuck

Going back to where it all started!  For some reason - I don't see this episode in our iTunes feed, so I'm rereleasing it so new subscribers who might have missed it can catch up. And because Bruce is the best and this remains one of my favorite episodes. Enjoy (whether you've heard it before or not)!

Oct 28, 2016 • 1:07:43

Episode 77 - Stephen Bishop

Episode 77 - Stephen Bishop

Stephen Bishop has been a highly successful singer-songwriter for 40 years. He's had several hits of his own and penned many for others such as Barbra Streisand, Eric Clapton, and Art Garfunkel. He just released a "brand new" album called Blueprint which puts the finishing touches on several songs and demos he's been working on over the years (hence the name). Here we talk about his approach to songwriting, how the industry has changed and how that affects him, and he shares some insight on his

Oct 25, 2016 • 1:12:36

Episode 76 - Glen Burtnik

Episode 76 - Glen Burtnik

Glen Burtnik embodies exactly what The Hustle represents - the artist that works tirelessly to stay vital, involved, creative and paid. Glen was launched as a promising solo artist in the mid-80s releasing two great records on A&M. He achieved some chart success with 1987's "Follow You" which reached #65 on the pop charts. As the solo career was sputtering, Glen was invited to replace Tommy Shaw in Styx and wrote their last decent-sized hit with 1991's "Love is the Ritual". This began a new care

Oct 18, 2016 • 1:06:39

Episode 75 - Michael Harville of Sugarbomb

Episode 75 - Michael Harville of Sugarbomb

This week's guest shares a story we've heard all too often. Michael Harville was the drummer of the excellent Texas power pop band Sugarbomb. After a successful independently released debut album, their major-label debut, Bully,was released in 2001 and just starting to gain some momentum when RCA dropped them two weeks later! This had long-lasting effects on some members of the band, understandably, but Michael has soldiered on making a living as a drummer ever since. We talks candidly about the

Oct 11, 2016 • 1:18:49

Episode 74 - Jacob Slichter of Semisonic

Episode 74 - Jacob Slichter of Semisonic

Jacob Slichter was the drummer for the excellent alternative rock band Semisonic, whose 1999 hit "Closing Time" remains a staple to this day. But, we aren't here to talk about that. Jacob covered that story perfectly in his 2004 memoir "So You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star", one of the greatest books on life as a mildly successful rock band during the waning days of the traditional music industry ever written. Since his book mirrors the arc we try to cover on the Hustle, I wanted to talk with him

Oct 4, 2016 • 1:00:11

Episode 73 - David Sterry of Real Life

Episode 73 - David Sterry of Real Life

David Sterry is the man behind one of the most iconic and enduring hits of the 80s synth-pop era, "Send Me An Angel". His band Real Life were major players in the 80s when Angel reached the charts TWICE (in 1983 and again in 1989), and "Catch Me I'm Falling" also made a huge splash in 1983. You'd think writing a song as evergreen as Angel would keep you comfy for the rest of your life, but surprisingly, that was not the case. Luckily, after 20 years, David is now benefitting from his impactful l

Sep 27, 2016 • 1:19:42

Episode 72 - Mark Gable of Choirboys

Episode 72 - Mark Gable of Choirboys

Choirboys have been an active, vibrant pub rock/hard rock band in their native Australia for over 30 years. They've had several major hits Down Under, including 1987's "Run To Paradise" which, get this, is the 11th best selling Australian single of the 80s! Surprisingly, they've never made much of a dent in America (and never tried too hard). We talk about the differences between Australian and American success, what kind of a lifestyle "Run to Paradise" has afforded them, and them being discove

Sep 20, 2016 • 1:25:43

Episode 71 - Tito Larriva of The Plugz/The Cruzados/Tito & Tarantula

Episode 71 - Tito Larriva of The Plugz/The Cruzados/Tito & Tarantula

Tito Larriva hasn't stopped working in 40 years. His many musical disguises (The Plugz, The Cruzados, Tito & Tarantula) have paralleled his second career in the movie business, both as an actor and a soundtrack legend. At the core of these many personalities is the heart of a musical genius and shapeshifter who has found much success by being the right guy for the job and always good at what he does. His career has spanned everything from porn to Pee-Wee Herman and Swayze to Tarantino. Get t

Sep 13, 2016 • 1:50:02

Episode 70 - Fred Pineau of The Atlantics

Episode 70 - Fred Pineau of The Atlantics

Fred Pineau was the guitarist for the excellent Boston power pop band The Atlantics. Their story is, unfortunately, a familiar one - big on the local scene, signed to a major label that mis-marketed them (they wanted them to be the "new wave Eagles"), and thus buried their one and only album, 1979's Big City Rock. Even with a national tour opening for Roxy Music, the Atlantics never fully took off and never made it to a second album. However, Fred is a world-class raconteur and has numerous incr

Sep 6, 2016 • 1:59:16

Episode 69 - Richard Bush of The A's/The Peace Creeps

Episode 69 - Richard Bush of The A's/The Peace Creeps

The A's were one of Philadelphia's hottest bands in the 70s. Their mix of new wave and power pop created some of the best music of that wonderful period - the barely pre-MTV era (1977-1981). Lead singer Richard Bush was also one of the most charismatic frontman around - rock star through and through. But, unfortunately, after two underperforming albums on a major label, the band called it a day. Today, Richard primarily makes his living working like the rest of us, but for the past few years he'

Aug 30, 2016 • 1:10:14

Episode 68 - Arthur Alexander of Sorrows

Episode 68 - Arthur Alexander of Sorrows

Arthur Alexander grew up in Warsaw Poland with dreams of becoming the next Elvis. His dreams brought him to NYC where he paid his dues on the CBGBs scene of the mid-70s with his first band The Poppees before things started to take off with his next band, the killer garage rock/power pop greats Sorrows. Unfortunately, after two under-performing albums the band was no more. Arthur is very candid and opinionated about his own career, what went wrong, and even his feelings about his fellow CBGB coho

Aug 23, 2016 • 1:31:14

Episode 67 - Blanche Napoleon on Dan Hartman

Episode 67 - Blanche Napoleon on Dan Hartman

In the mid-70s, Blanche Napoleon impulsively moved to NYC and befriended the excellent singer-songwriter Dan Hartman. She also managed to stumble into a music career when Dan made her a background singer on some of his biggest disco hits ("Instant Replay", "Relight My Fire", "Love Sensation"). Their deep friendship carried on until his death from AIDS in 1993. In this conversation, not only do we honor Dan and his life and art, but we talk about Blanche's brief. but impactful career in the music

Aug 16, 2016 • 1:17:59

Episode 66 - Robert Tepper

Episode 66 - Robert Tepper

Robert Tepper is a legend. His immortal classic, "No Easy Way Out" from 1985's Rocky IV, while not a huge hit on the pop charts, remains one of the most beloved soundtrack songs in movie history. Who will ever forget that killer track fueling what is, arguably, the greatest movie montage of all time. In this candid conversation, we go deep on how that song came to be and who played on it, but we also get to know the man behind it all as well as the rest of his career. Let's just say, the 80s we

Aug 9, 2016 • 1:14:03

Episode 65 - Jon Fiore of Preview/Solo

Episode 65 - Jon Fiore of Preview/Solo

Jon Fiore was the lead singer of another great, but forgotten, early 80s rock band called Preview. Like many other bands we've showcased, they came in with a lot of promise, released an excellent debut album in 1983, and completely disappeared. From there, Jon began a highly successful career singing many legendary jingles, continuing to perform whenever possible, including releasing two excellent melodic hard rock albums in the 90s. But, to me he will always be beloved as the voice behind the t

Aug 2, 2016 • 1:15:22

Episode 64 - Tim Cappello (aka the ”Sexy Sax Man”)

Episode 64 - Tim Cappello (aka the ”Sexy Sax Man”)

Who can ever forget the sight of the greased-up beefcake saxophone player performing "I Still Believe" on the boardwalk among the barrels of fire in the 1987 classic movie, The Lost Boys. It's an image that has impacted a generation. This week's guest is the man himself, Tim Cappello. This surprisingly kind and funny guy tells us why he never had a solo career (it's hilarious), what it was like working for legends such as Peter Gabriel and Tina Turner, his days starting out as Billy Crystal's mu

Jul 26, 2016 • 1:22:17

Episode 63 - Fiona

Episode 63 - Fiona

As big as "hair metal" was in the late-80s, there were very few women singers that were as big as the boys and could hold their own next to them. That is, except for Fiona, who released a string of hard rock albums from the mid-80s to the early 90s scoring a couple moderate hits in the process. She is probably best known for her electric duet with fellow genetic lottery winner Kip Winger, "Everything You Do (Your Sexing Me)" which barely missed the top 40 in 1989. However, what makes Fiona Flana

Jul 19, 2016 • 1:23:13

Encore - Christopher Thorn of Blind Melon

Encore - Christopher Thorn of Blind Melon

This is an encore presentation of one of our biggest (and many think best) episodes. Because only the last 50 episodes show up in iTunes, I wanted to post this again so it could be accessed more easily. And because I'm super proud of it.

Jul 15, 2016 • 1:25:17

Episode 62 - Jai (Jason Rowe)

Episode 62 - Jai (Jason Rowe)

Jai was the stage name of Jason Rowe, who in the 90s recorded one of the great lost albums with Heaven. Referring to his style as "a mod for the hip-hop generation", Heaven produced one of the best singles of the decade with "I Believe" which was a modest hit on alternative radio in 1997. Unfortunately, that was it for Jai, or so I thought. Come to find out, he released one more album under his given name in 2006 called Lovelife which, unfortunately, remains fairly obscure. Despite it all, Jason

Jul 12, 2016 • 1:22:54

Episode 61 - Taco

Episode 61 - Taco

This week is the one and only Taco ( yes, that is his real name - Taco Ockerse )! He hit it big in 1983 with his hypnotic take on the classic 'Puttin On The Ritz', which reached #4 that year, and was a bit of a cultural touchstone.  Unfortunately, that was all she wrote for Taco in the States and we talk about the difficult decision he made to abandon the US market and go all-in in Europe where he's remained very active ever since. Taco continues to release music there, most of which is in kee

Jul 5, 2016 • 1:06:40

Episode 60 - Peter McCann

Episode 60 - Peter McCann

Peter McCann is the man behind the immortal classic, "Do You Wanna Make Love" which was a #5 smash in 1977. He's an admitted one-hit-wonder, but his career is much broader than the one hit. He started out in a folk group called The Repairs who were managed by Andrew Loog Oldham (also of the Rolling Stones) and signed to Motown of all places! Berry Gordy didn't know what to do with them, so they were dropped after two albums. Peter went solo, but learned early on that he much preferred writing so

Jun 28, 2016 • 1:12:16

Episode 59 - George Winston

Episode 59 - George Winston

George Winston is an icon of New Age music (or "rural folk piano" as he calls it) and an American treasure. His beautiful piano songs have become a part of the country's fabric and some of his albums, especially 1982's December, are essential recordings no matter the genre. To me, George has been a mysterious figure, ever present, but never in the limelight. I wanted to get to know the man behind the music. Turns out he's a talkative, gregarious, student of music who has created his own world an

Jun 21, 2016 • 1:11:37

Episode 58 - Neil Taylor

Episode 58 - Neil Taylor

Neil Taylor has been a hugely successful session guitarist for over 30 years, ever since some of his buddies called him up one day asking if he could rush over to the studio and lay down a guitar solo on a song they were working on. That song was "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" and, of course, the band was Tears For Fears. This began a long and fulfilling career that's seen him work with luminaries such as Morrissey, Peter Gabriel, and Robbie Williams, whom he performed alongside for 10 year

Jun 14, 2016 • 1:33:55

Bonus - Jan "The Man" Reports Back From The Axl/DC Concert

Bonus - Jan "The Man" Reports Back From The Axl/DC Concert

Our intrepid producer, Jan "The Man" is a huge AC/DC fan, and has been trying to finagle a way to see them for literally years.  With a lineup change, and Brian Johnson leaving the band recently to be replaced by Axl Rose, there has been a huge amount of talk over the last couple of months, many people asking for refunds on their tickets.  We thought it would be fun to talk to our Producer about his experience of Axl fronting the band, and get his take, since he finally managed to score a tic

Jun 10, 2016 • 46:55

Episode 57 - Ben Watkins of The Flowerpot Men/Juno Reactor

Episode 57 - Ben Watkins of The Flowerpot Men/Juno Reactor

In honor of the 30th anniversary of the release of Ferris Bueller's Day Off this month, our guest this week is Ben Watkins, former lead singer of The Flowerpot Men who had that excellent track "Beat City" that was featured heavily in the film. What's really interesting about Ben is that he went on to be a key figure in the electronic and techno scene of the early 90s when he started the hugely successful Juno Reactor, a band that has been going strong around the world ever since. Ben has also co

Jun 7, 2016 • 1:16:07

Episode 56 - Rolo McGinty of The Woodentops

Episode 56 - Rolo McGinty of The Woodentops

The Woodentops were an excellent British alternative pop band of the mid-to-late 80s. However, within just 2 years, they released 3 wildly different albums and then called it quits. The debut, Giant, sounds like what bands such as Prefab Sprout and Let's Active were doing at the time. The second was a live album that was super punky and revved up, and then the proper second album, Wooden Foot Cops on the Highway, was heavily influenced by the Madchester and Baggie scenes of the late 80s. Lead si

May 31, 2016 • 57:29

Episode 55 - Anthony Kaczynski of Figures on a Beach/Fireking

Episode 55 - Anthony Kaczynski of Figures on a Beach/Fireking

Anthony Kaczynski was the lead singer of the great Detroit synth band Figures on a Beach throughout the 80s. They started out as a more avant-garde focused outfit along the lines of early Simple Minds, OMD, and Can, but they eventually put out two major label albums in the late-80s that had a much slicker, synth-pop sound. Unfortunately, success wasn't in the cards (although they did record one of the great alternative singles of the late-80s with "Accidentally 4th Street (Gloria)"). Anthony did

May 24, 2016 • 1:35:01

Episode 54 - Sarah Shannon of Velocity Girl

Episode 54 - Sarah Shannon of Velocity Girl

The 90s were the golden era of killer indie rock bands fronted by chicks and one of the best of the bunch was Washington D.C.'s Velocity Girl lead by Sarah Shannon. The band put out three albums in the mid-90s before calling it quits. Sarah got married, moved to Seattle, and embarked a mildly successful solo career before turning her attention away from the music industry. Just then, an opportunity to start a children's rock band called The Not-Its became a reality. Think the power poppy guitar

May 17, 2016 • 1:11:20

Episode 53 - Amanda Blue of Spider/Shanghai/Solo

Episode 53 - Amanda Blue of Spider/Shanghai/Solo

Amanda Blue was the lead singer of one of those great rock and roll with a touch of new wave bands of the late 70s/early 80s called Spider. They cracked the top 40 once in 1980 when "New Romance" reached #39, but after two albums, they changed their name to Shanghai and released one more album before calling it quits and Amanda embarked on a solo career. What might be most interesting about Spider are the many recognizable names that circled their orbit. The band was discovered by Kiss and manag

May 10, 2016 • 1:21:42

Ep 52 - HAPPY 1st BIRTHDAY TO US! - with Mark Brzezicki of Big Country

Ep 52 - HAPPY 1st BIRTHDAY TO US! - with Mark Brzezicki of Big Country

To celebrate The Hustle's 1st Birthday, we created a full circle moment. This week's guest is Mark Brzezicki, drummer of the iconic Scottish band Big Country! You may remember in the intro to The Hustle that I recorded a year ago, I mentioned that the suicide of Big Country's lead singer Stuart Adamson was an inspiration for me creating a place where I could let my favorite unsung artists know how much I love them. Here we are 52 conversations later and still going strong! Mark and I discuss wha

May 3, 2016 • 1:26:22

Bonus - A discussion on the death and legacy of Prince with Steve Spears

Bonus - A discussion on the death and legacy of Prince with Steve Spears

In this special Prince-themed bonus episode of The Hustle, we're joined by popular blogger and host of the beloved Stuck In The 80s podcast, Steve Spears, another die-hard Prince fan. We discuss what he meant to us, his legacy, our faves, and the rumors surrounding how he died. Huge thank you to Steve for being our special guest! http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/80s/

Apr 29, 2016 • 45:05

Episode 51 - George Sipl of American Noise

Episode 51 - George Sipl of American Noise

American Noise were one of the great "should-have-been" bands. They were one of the hottest tickets in the thriving Cleveland rock scene of the 70s when they were signed by legend Richard Perry and sent to LA to work on their debut album. Released in 1980, their self-titled masterpiece is a power-pop lovers dream. However, the label didn't get behind them and American Noise dissolved into obscurity. Over the years, however, that album has grown a deserved reputation as "the great lost guitar rec

Apr 26, 2016 • 1:26:02

Episode 50 - Todd Pipes of Deep Blue Something

Episode 50 - Todd Pipes of Deep Blue Something

Todd Pipes was the lead singer of Deep Blue Something, who hit it big in 1995 with the seminal "Breakfast at Tiffany's" which reached #5 on the US charts. Sadly, it was their one and only hit and after a couple more albums that received less attention, the band slowed way down. Todd is now an English teacher in Dallas and makes music when he wants to, including an excellent ep from last year called Locust House. We talk about music in the 90s, the aftermath of having such a big, divisive hit, an

Apr 19, 2016 • 1:18:18

Episode 49 - Ranking Roger of The English Beat/General Public/Solo

Episode 49 - Ranking Roger of The English Beat/General Public/Solo

Ranking Roger is a music and style icon that needs no introduction. He was a founding member of one of the most important and beloved alternative/ska bands of all-time with the English Beat. Then, he and fellow front man Dave Wakeling broke off and formed General Public to even greater chart success ("Tenderness" #27 in 1984). Today the former partners function as two separate groups - Dave carries on as The English Beat in the states while Roger is The Beat throughout the rest of the world. We

Apr 12, 2016 • 1:17:42

Episode 48 Bonus - Phil Spalding and I discuss some of his collaborations

Episode 48 Bonus - Phil Spalding and I discuss some of his collaborations

Phil and I discuss several of his collaborations including... Talk Talk Seal Terence Trent D'Arby Jai When In Rome Dubstar  OMD Flesh for Lulu Heaven 17 Suggs http://www.philspalding.com/ http://www.liver4life.org.uk/

Apr 7, 2016 • 32:47

Episode 48 - Phil Spalding of GTR

Episode 48 - Phil Spalding of GTR

Phil Spalding has been an in demand session bassist for almost 40 years now. His highest profile gig from an American perspective was probably when he was a member of that short-lived supergroup GTR, who had a big hit with "When the Heart Rules the Mind" which reached #14 in 1986. Since then he's collaborated with everyone from Seal to Terence Trent D'Arby to Right Said Fred to Elton John, all the while living as a full-blown drug addict. Thankfully, he's been in recovery for 11 years now and se

Apr 5, 2016 • 1:07:24

Episode 47 - Grahame Skinner of Hipsway

Episode 47 - Grahame Skinner of Hipsway

Hipsway were a Scottish band in the mid-80s that scored one hit in the states off their first album with "The Honeythief" in 1986, one of the finest singles of its era. That was about it for Hipsway, however, and after one more album that was barely released the guys parted ways. What's interesting about lead singer Grahame Skinner is that he's been a part of numerous other bands, both before and after, that were even better and deserved to be discovered, but mostly weren't. Today he manages a c

Mar 29, 2016 • 48:30

Episode 46 - Murray Attaway of Guadalcanal Diary

Episode 46 - Murray Attaway of Guadalcanal Diary

Guadalcanal Diary were one of the seminal College Rock bands of the 80s. With a sound forever described as "like REM", over the course of four albums they gained success and respect by playing the pop game by their own rules. But, by the end of the decade the band broke up and frontman Murray Attaway set off for a solo career. Unfortunately, that only last one album, after which he decided to step away from the music business altogether. For the last 25 years, he's lead a life similar to many of

Mar 22, 2016 • 1:22:30

Episode 45 - Carlos Alomar

Episode 45 - Carlos Alomar

Carlos Alomar is a legend, plain and simple. Off and on for over 40 years, he was David Bowie's rhythm guitarist, musical director, collaborator, co-songwriter and friend. In the history of Bowie's music, there are fewer people more responsible for the sound than Carlos. Today he is a director at Stevens Institute of Technology and you can tell from this interview that teaching comes naturally to him. He also continues to collaborate with artists lucky enough to have him. He's lead an amazing, c

Mar 15, 2016 • 1:21:39

Episode 44 - Robin Clark of Simple Minds

Episode 44 - Robin Clark of Simple Minds

Robin Clark might be best known for her time with Simple Minds during the height of their popularity in the mid-80s. She joined them for the Once Upon a Time album, singing on gigantic hits like "Alive and Kicking", "Sanctify Yourself" and "All the Things She Said" and touring the world for a couple years. What you may not have known is that she's been married to David Bowie's rhythm guitarist Carlos Alomar for 45 years and not only did she sing on some of Bowie's most iconic songs ("Young Ameri

Mar 8, 2016 • 1:19:38

Episode 43 - Joe Frank Carollo of Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds

Episode 43 - Joe Frank Carollo of Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds

Joe Frank Carollo is the Joe Frank of popular soft rock group Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds who had a number of hits in the first half of the 70s topped off by the sweet as honey "Fallin' In Love" which reached #1 in 1975. That was their last hit, unfortunately, and after a few years on the casino circuit, Joe Frank focused on the "real job" he had all along, working in camera stores. Dan Hamilton passed away in the 90s and Tommy Reynolds gave up the music industry for his religion, leaving Joe

Mar 1, 2016 • 1:16:59

Episode 42 - Derrek Van Eaton of Lon & Derrek Van Eaton

Episode 42 - Derrek Van Eaton of Lon & Derrek Van Eaton

Lon & Derrek Van Eaton were a singing duo in the early 70s. They partied at Andy Warhol's and open for legends like the Doors, David Bowie and the Moody Blues. In addition to being excellent musicians, what makes them a small part of rock history is the fact they were discovered by the Beatles. George Harrison heard their demo, signed them to Apple records and flew them to England to record their debut album, 1972's Brother. Unfortunately, the album underperformed and Apple went out of business

Feb 23, 2016 • 1:05:45

Episode 41 - Billy Vera

Episode 41 - Billy Vera

Billy Vera and the Beaters can claim one of the flukiest #1 songs in pop history. In 1986 a song they wrote and recorded in 1981. "At This Moment", was chosen to appear in an episode of Family Ties. It caused such a stir that it eventually propelled the song to the top of the charts in January of 1987. What most people probably don't realize is that Billy had already been around for 20 years writing songs for artists like Ricky Nelson and Dolly Parton, not to mention a couple of hits on his own.

Feb 16, 2016 • 1:41:44

Episode 40 - Matt Caisley of Reacharound/Former Human Beings

Episode 40 - Matt Caisley of Reacharound/Former Human Beings

Reacharound were a killer rock and roll band (think Social Distortion mixed with Rev. Horton Heat) in the mid-90s that had one hit on alternative radio with "Big Chair" in 1996. But, after one album (and only one single) the band was done. Lead singer Matt Caisley has bounced around L.A. working regular jobs while continuing to follow his rock star passions. Today, his primary creative outlet is the more electro-industrial band Former Human Beings. We talk about the highs he experienced in the 9

Feb 9, 2016 • 1:14:56

Episode 39 Bonus - David Frank and I discuss some of his collaborations

Episode 39 Bonus - David Frank and I discuss some of his collaborations

I hit David with a list of some of my favorite credits of his. The artists include Scritti Politti, Phil Collins, Steve Winwood, Chaka Khan, Billy Idol, Billy Squier, and Rod Stewart. http://davidfrankmusic.com/

Feb 3, 2016 • 25:22

Episode 39 - David Frank of The System

Episode 39 - David Frank of The System

David Frank was one half of the highly influential r&b group The System, who released a string of trendsetting dance hits throughout the 80s culminating with their biggest hit, "Don't Disturb This Groove," which hit #4 on the pop charts in 1987. Along with his musical partner Mic Murphy, they did some great soundtrack work on classic films like Beverly Hills Cop, Coming to America, and Beat Street, in which they also appeared. After the duo went on hiatus, David pored himself into writing and pr

Feb 2, 2016 • 1:20:12

Episode 38 - Simon Toulson-Clarke and Derek Adams of Red Box

Episode 38 - Simon Toulson-Clarke and Derek Adams of Red Box

Simon Toulson-Clarke is the mastermind behind the incredible, but overlooked, British band Red Box who released their debut album The Circle & The Square in 1986. It is one of the most amazing bursts of creativity I've ever heard on a debut album. Many different genres, especially various styles of world music, are touched upon within an 80s pop construct. As usual, the label wanted to compromise what made the band unique leading to their second album, the also wonderful Motive, being shelved fo

Jan 26, 2016 • 1:11:58

Episode 37 - John Pazdan of Pezband/Off Broadway/Big Guitars From Memphis

Episode 37 - John Pazdan of Pezband/Off Broadway/Big Guitars From Memphis

John Pazdan was a founding member of two of the greatest power pop bands of the 70s. He formed Pezband, but left before their first album came out (he would rejoin in the 80s). He and singer Cliff Johnson left to form Off Broadway, but he only stuck around for that band's debut album, which spawned the #51 US single "Stay in Time" in 1979. In the 90s he was a member of the cowpunk band Big Guitars From Memphis, who were relatively successful at the time, but has mostly been lost to history.  Sin

Jan 19, 2016 • 1:33:38

Bonus - Bowie Thoughts: My feelings on the passing of my constant companion

Bonus - Bowie Thoughts: My feelings on the passing of my constant companion

David Bowie has been my #1 since I started keeping track at 10 years old. He's had more impact on me than any other public figure alive in my lifetime. I remember thinking last Friday on his birthday how grateful I was that he was still out there producing art, but it hit me that at 69, I should start mentally preparing myself to see an old David Bowie. That it was time to especially cherish anything and everything he gives us from here on out. Two days later he was gone.  It blew my mind to hea

Jan 17, 2016 • 13:07

Episode 36 - Tony Ortiz of The Monroes

Episode 36 - Tony Ortiz of The Monroes

Today, Tony Ortiz is about as regular a guy as it gets. Normal desk job, family, friends, grandkids, a mortgage, etc. But, in 1982 he was on the road to something bigger. Tony was the lead singer of the rock/new wave band The Monroes who's lone single, "What Do All The People Know" was climbing the charts, reaching #59 in the U.S., before the bottom fell out. Just as the Monroes debut EP was also gaining momentum, their Japanese record label went bankrupt grinding everything to a halt and thwart

Jan 12, 2016 • 1:00:31

Episode 35 - Dom Mariani of The Stems/The Someloves/DM3/The Majestic Kelp/Datura4/many many more

Episode 35 - Dom Mariani of The Stems/The Someloves/DM3/The Majestic Kelp/Datura4/many many more

Dom Mariani is a bit of an underground legend in his native Australia. His career goes back nearly 40 years and in that time he's fronted more bands than I can count. His first real success came with his garage rock band The Stems who got pretty popular down under in the mid-80s. From there he started the band that turned me on to his immense talent, The Someloves who only released one album in 1990. What is clear about Dom is that no matter what band he's in or what style of rock he's playing,

Jan 5, 2016 • 1:05:21

Episode 34 - Martin Brammer of The Kane Gang

Episode 34 - Martin Brammer of The Kane Gang

The Kane Gang were one of those wonderful bands that came to the states from the UK as part of the Sophisti-pop or Blue-Eyed British Soul movement of the mid-to-late 80s. They only released two albums and had two hits in the states (more back home in the UK), the biggest of which was "Motortown" which reached #36 in 1987. The Kane Gang were done after that, but come to find out lead singer Martin Brammer has carved out a hugely successful songwriting career penning hits for everyone from Tina Tu

Dec 29, 2015 • 57:19

Episode 33 - Kurt Maloo of Double

Episode 33 - Kurt Maloo of Double

Kurt Maloo wrote and sang one of the most iconic and unique hit songs of all time with "The Captain of Her Heart" which reached #16 in 1986 in the US. That's one of those songs almost everyone knows, but maybe not everyone knows who sings it. Kurt, along with creative partner Felix Haug, put out two albums as Double before disbanding in the late 80s. Unfortunately, Felix passed away in 2004 ending any potential for a Double reunion. But, "Captain" is still a standard and continues to be played a

Dec 22, 2015 • 46:44

Episode 32 - Eric Bazilian of The Hooters

Episode 32 - Eric Bazilian of The Hooters

The Hooters were a pretty big band back in the mid-to-late 80s with three top 40 hits (and a few others that barely missed). Sadly, sales started to sag around the beginning of the 90s, but the band continues on to this day in some form, still drawing large crowds in parts of Europe. In this interview we talk about fickle American crowds, The Hooters slot playing at Live Aid, Eric and his Hooter partner Rob Hyman's involvement in the recording of Cyndi Lauper's smash debut album She's So Unusual

Dec 15, 2015 • 1:26:52

Episode 31 - Dig Wayne of JoBoxers

Episode 31 - Dig Wayne of JoBoxers

Dig grew up in Cambridge, Ohio where he was turned on to all genres of music from the Temptations to Alice Cooper. But, what really did it for him was rockabilly, which inspired him to move to New York and start an authentic rockabilly band called Buzz and the Flyers. From there, he headed to London where he fronted the excellent 80s band JoBoxers, who had one of the greatest singles of all time with "Just Got Lucky". That song reached #36 in 1983 in the US, but was their one and only hit and af

Dec 8, 2015 • 1:27:50

Episode 30 - Martin Page

Episode 30 - Martin Page

Martin Page is a song-writing legend. Among his biggest hits are "These Dreams" by Heart, "King Of Wishful Thinking" by Go West and the immortal "We Built This City" by Starship, which remains completely ubiquitous despite topping many "worst song of all time" type lists. He started out in a funky synth-pop band called Q-Feel that may be best known for the song "Dancing In Heaven" from the Girls Just Want To Have Fun soundtrack. His song-writing success and collaborations with further artists li

Dec 1, 2015 • 1:13:11

Episode 29 - Randy Hall

Episode 29 - Randy Hall

Randy Hall has had a long and storied career that includes collaborations with legends like Miles Davis, The Jacksons and Ray Parker Jr. as well as his own solo career in the mid to late 80s. It was during that chapter of his life that he made an appearance in the movie Can't Buy Me Love. You remember the African Ant-Eater Ritual scene at the school dance when everyone mindlessly follows Ronald Miller's lead? The guy performing at the dance is Randy Hall. He went on to work with Dr. Dre and Tupa

Nov 24, 2015 • 1:28:11

Episode 28 - Joe Esposito of Brooklyn Dreams/Solo

Episode 28 - Joe Esposito of Brooklyn Dreams/Solo

You've seen the movies, you've heard the voice, now meet the man. Joe sang or wrote some of the most iconic soundtrack songs of the 80s including "Lady, Lady, Lady" from Flashdance, "Come Into My Life" from Coming to America, "Hearts On Fire" from Rocky 4 and, the legendary, "You're The Best" from The Karate Kid. But, he started in a dance/disco group in the 70s called Brooklyn Dreams where he hooked up with Donna Summer to not only sing on her hit "Heaven Knows" but write "Bad Girls" for her. H

Nov 17, 2015 • 56:01

Episode 27 - Robert White Johnson of RPM

Episode 27 - Robert White Johnson of RPM

RPM was another of those under appreciated bands that deserved way more attention. Robert started as a songwriter for Ronnie Milsap before beginning RPM in the early 80s. After two albums, the second of which, Phonogenic, was produced at Trevor Horn's SARM studios in England, they called it quits due to public indifference. He went on to sing jingles that we all know, sell insurance, Produce the great Peter Wolf, and co-write one of Celine Dion's biggest hits, which would change his financial si

Nov 10, 2015 • 1:21:04

Episode 26 - Mike James Kirkland

Episode 26 - Mike James Kirkland

Mike James Kirkland was an excellent soul singer in the 70s, releasing two albums under his own name after a stint with his group Mike and the Censations. While being equally as good as his contemporaries like Marvin Gaye and Curtis Mayfield, Mike never reached the same level of stardom. Thankfully, he's becoming one of those highly sought after r&b artists that DJs spend hours searching for. In the late 70s, Mike changed his name to Bo Kirkland and paired up with Ruth Davis to release a string

Nov 3, 2015 • 1:25:23

Episode 25 - Gerard McMahon (aka G Tom Mac)

Episode 25 - Gerard McMahon (aka G Tom Mac)

Gerard McMahon (G Tom Mac) is the man behind one of the most iconic and beloved soundtrack songs of all time with "Cry Little Sister" from 1987's The Lost Boys. But did you know the guy has had a successful career going back 40 years, including numerous other songs from classic films and television shows (Fast Times at Ridgemont High, The Players Club, Roseanne, Scrubs, Fame, etc), as well as his own solid solo career? He's also written songs for legends like Kiss, Roger Daltrey, Chicago and Car

Oct 27, 2015 • 1:25:30

Episode 24 - Andres del Castillo of Eight Seconds

Episode 24 - Andres del Castillo of Eight Seconds

Eight Seconds were a Canadian synth-prog/pop band in the late-eighties who had one minor hit in the US with a song called "Kiss You (When It's Dangerous)". Their unique sound (think The Fixx) set them apart from a lot of what else was happening at the time, but the dreaded label politics held back the release of their second album and the band sank into obscurity. After trying out several music-related projects, frontman Andy del Castillo started his own media production company in 2004 and hasn

Oct 20, 2015 • 1:10:27

Episode 23 - Walter Egan

Episode 23 - Walter Egan

Walter's the self-proclaimed "Forrest Gump of rock" and the man behind one of the most enduring hits of the 70s "Magnet and Steel" which reached #8 in 1978. His career was launched with the support of producers Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, who were also in the throes of their own drama recording the landmark Rumours album. Walter got caught up in that as well, and he drops the bomb of hooking up with Stevie around that time! In fact, his love life becomes a hot topic of discussion as wel

Oct 13, 2015 • 1:48:41

Episode 22 - Peppy Castro of Blues Magoos/Barnaby Bye/Wiggy Bits/Balance

Episode 22 - Peppy Castro of Blues Magoos/Barnaby Bye/Wiggy Bits/Balance

Peppy's music career goes back 50 years, from his one-hit-wonder 60s band Blues Magoos, to his one-hit-wonder 80s band Balance. The guy's never stopped, collaborating with Paul Stanley, teaching Ace Frehley how to play guitar, and writing songs for Diana Ross. His greatest monetary success might be writing and singing some of the most iconic jingles of the last 40 years. He even released his first solo album in 2013. He doesn't stop. He also has great stories!

Oct 6, 2015 • 1:30:40

Episode 21 - Walter Wray of King Swamp/LiTTLe MaCHiNe

Episode 21 - Walter Wray of King Swamp/LiTTLe MaCHiNe

Walter Wray was the lead singer of the excellent alternative rock band King Swamp who had a minor hit in 1989 with the song "Is This Love". The band had a great pedigree, as it featured members of Shriekback, as well as Dominic Miller, who has played with Sting for the last 25 years or so. Walter stepped away from the music biz in the early 90s, but has recently started a unique new project with the Shriekback guys called LiTTLe MaCHiNe. King Swamp is another in a long line of great bands that

Sep 29, 2015 • 59:08

Episode 20 - Dr. Robert of The Blow Monkeys

Episode 20 - Dr. Robert of The Blow Monkeys

In the States, the Blow Monkeys are best known for their #14 1986 hit "Digging Your Scene" and their appearance on the multi-million selling Dirty Dancing soundtrack. But, Dr. Robert has never stopped in Europe releasing several solo albums as well as re-igniting the Blow Monkeys in 2007. We talk about how the band's sound changed over time, his conflicted feelings about his 80s work, why he can be difficult to work with, and how he almost became the next Barry Manilow!

Sep 22, 2015 • 1:18:49

Episode 19 - Bertie Higgins

Episode 19 - Bertie Higgins

Bertie Higgins is the man behind one of the quintessential yacht rock classics of all time, "Key Largo", which reached #8 in 1982. But, did you know that he's still huge in other parts of the world, including the Pacific Rim where he still plays to thousands of fans? There are so many interesting bits of information in this interview, including the ups and downs of his career, how he got into the movie business, and his friendship with Burt Reynolds. And, wait til you find out who his son is!

Sep 15, 2015 • 1:10:33

Episode 18 - Todd Duncan of The Crazy 8s

Episode 18 - Todd Duncan of The Crazy 8s

The Crazy 8s were an American ska band in the 80s and 90s out of Portland. While they had some regional success, they never completely broke nationwide, although they did get major national exposure when they appeared on Star Search! They were a band of high ideals and a strong DIY attitude, but it may have ultimately cost them the brass ring. They deserved more.

Sep 8, 2015 • 1:21:09

Episode 17 - Johnny Vatos of Oingo Boingo

Episode 17 - Johnny Vatos of Oingo Boingo

Oingo Boingo are still one of the most beloved bands of the last 35 years. When they called it quits 20 years ago Danny Elfman went on to bigger things and has never looked back, but what about the other guys. Johnny tells us about his life before and after Boingo, what music he's doing now that gets him excited, and why Oingo Boingo were especially big in Salt Lake City of all places.

Sep 1, 2015 • 1:08:25

Episode 16 - Christopher Thorn of Blind Melon

Episode 16 - Christopher Thorn of Blind Melon

Your band gets launched into worldwide fame as your debut album sells four million copies. Shortly after your second album comes out your lead singer, the face of your band, suddenly dies of a drug overdose. What now? Blind Melon's Christopher Thorn answers that question in stunning detail. He also shares his new project, Sonny Boy Thorn, which might be his best work yet.

Aug 25, 2015 • 1:25:17

Episode 15 - Jimmer Podrasky of The Rave-Ups

Episode 15 - Jimmer Podrasky of The Rave-Ups

Jimmer was the frontman of the seminal 80s college rock band The Rave-Ups who were forever immortalized when they appeared the movie Pretty in Pink. After three critically-acclaimed albums the band broke up and Jimmer basically disappeared for the next 25 years. Unfortunately, he had a rough go during that time, some of which we talk about here. Thankfully, he's finally back making music, including his excellent solo album The Would-Be Plans.

Aug 18, 2015 • 1:21:43

Episode 14 - Jeff Murphy of Shoes

Episode 14 - Jeff Murphy of Shoes

Here's another "first day of MTV" band. After over 40 years as a group, we felt Shoes deserved an in depth career retrospective. Jeff Murphy tells the stories behind each album, how him being a gearhead from a young age influenced the band's sound, and war stories with the likes of Gene Simmons and Butch Vig. There've been highs and lows, but Jeff's come out the other end as a balanced, kind gentleman.

Aug 11, 2015 • 2:32:22

Episode 13 - Slim Man of Bootcamp/Solo

Episode 13 - Slim Man of Bootcamp/Solo

In honor of MTV's 34th birthday, we talk to a guy that was there on day one. Slim Man was the driving force behind a hard rock group in the early 80s called Bootcamp who appeared a couple times on MTV's first day on the air. But, for the last 20 years he's taken on the Slim Man moniker and made a living as a smooth jazz lounge singer. It's a mind-boggling transformation, but he's good at it.

Aug 4, 2015 • 1:08:41

Episode 12 - Rich Spina of Love Affair/Herman's Hermits

Episode 12 - Rich Spina of Love Affair/Herman's Hermits

Not everyone would be able to go from frontman to sideman. To go from lead singer of your own modern rock band to sidekick for oldies acts may take some pride swallowing, but Rich Spina has had nothing but success (and a steady paycheck) since making the switch. Here's the story of a man who achieved success through a much different route than he expected.

Jul 28, 2015 • 1:24:52

Episode 11 - Chaz Jankel of The Blockheads/Solo

Episode 11 - Chaz Jankel of The Blockheads/Solo

I first heard Chaz Jankel on the soundtrack to Real Genius, but it turns out the guy has had a storied career in the UK going back 40 years. From his rise to prominence in Ian Dury and the Blockheads, to the amazing dance music he's produced as a solo artist, Chaz deserves to be up there in the ranks of Nile Rodgers and Giorgio Moroder. Oh, and none other than Quincy Jones had one of his biggest hits with a cover of a Chaz song. We're talking royalty here.

Jul 21, 2015 • 57:36

Episode 10 - Jim Walker of JVA

Episode 10 - Jim Walker of JVA

Jim Walker recorded a beloved (but obscure) song for a beloved (but obscure) cult 80s teen movie soundtrack. This lead him to playing the Hollywood game for a few months, rubbing shoulders with the likes of Steven Spielberg, Tom Petty, Courtney Cox, and many others. Movie stardom may not have lasted, but a career in production doing what he loves did. This is his crazy story.

Jul 14, 2015 • 1:19:16

Episode 9 - Canada Rocks! - with Holly Woods and Barry Connors of Toronto/Robb Reiner of Anvil

Episode 9 - Canada Rocks! - with Holly Woods and Barry Connors of Toronto/Robb Reiner of Anvil

This week we hit Canada to talk to two awesome rock bands from the Great White North. First up is the early 80s rock band Toronto. They were a pretty big deal north of the border, but never got the credit they deserved (in more ways than one, as you'll hear) in the States. Then we talk to the legendary Robb Reiner of Anvil to find out what his life has been like since the success of their 2008 documentary Anvil: The Story of Anvil.

Jun 30, 2015 • 1:36:15

Episode 8 - Baxter of Re-flex

Episode 8 - Baxter of Re-flex

Baxter was the lead singer of the British new wave band, Re-flex, who had one hit in the states when "The Politics of Dancing" reached #23 in 1983. They continued to make music, but label politics made it difficult for the work to get released. We talk about that, what he's been doing since, his experience with early Re-flex band member Mark King (now of Level 42), and we clear up those rumors that "Politics" was rejected for the Footloose soundtrack (or do we?)

Jun 23, 2015 • 1:20:24

Episode 7 - Clive Farrington of When In Rome

Episode 7 - Clive Farrington of When In Rome

Clive is the man behind one of the most enduring hits of the 80s, 1988's "The Promise", which was reborn when it was featured in Napoleon Dynamite in 2003. Unfortunately, his band, When In Rome, quickly broke up and there's a lot of bad blood that's still very toxic to this day. Clive is working hard to take his destiny into his own hands and keep his name alive. It isn't easy.

Jun 16, 2015 • 1:12:52

Episode 6 - Brian Canham of Pseudo Echo

Episode 6 - Brian Canham of Pseudo Echo

Brian Canham fronts the Australian band Pseudo Echo, who hit it big in 1986 when their cover of "Funkytown" reached #6 in the states. We talk about why the band dissolved a couple years later, how they ended up on the North Shore soundtrack, why he was memorably wearing a New York Yankees t-shirt in the "Funkytown" video, and what Pseudo Echo is up to now.

Jun 9, 2015 • 1:27:34

Episode 5 - Marge Raymond of Flame

Episode 5 - Marge Raymond of Flame

Do you know anyone that's sung on some of the biggest hits in rock history, been friends with Bruce Springsteen and Steven Tyler, and performed with Pavarotti and Paul McCartney? I do. Her name is Marge Raymond and this is her story. She's the "most famous rock star you've never heard of."

Jun 2, 2015 • 1:34:49

Episode 4 - AndyO of Blue Zoo

Episode 4 - AndyO of Blue Zoo

AndyO was the lead singer of the 80s British band Blue Zoo whose biggest hit was "Cry Boy Cry", reaching #13 in the UK charts in 1983. In our conversation, Andy discusses his conflicted feelings about his musical legacy, how he tried to continue in music when Blue Zoo ended, and what he does now, which is about as far away from rock and roll as you can get.

May 26, 2015 • 1:22:26

Episode 3 - Paul Collins of The Beat

Episode 3 - Paul Collins of The Beat

The self-proclaimed "King of Power Pop" tells the brutally honest story of his career ups and downs - from his early days with The Nerves to his promising solo career, to hitting rock bottom in the 90s only to finally be taken seriously again in recent years.

May 19, 2015 • 58:44

Episode 2 - Mister Zero of The Kings

Episode 2 - Mister Zero of The Kings

Mister Zero is the guitarist and primary songwriter of the Canadian power pop band The Kings who reached #43 in 1980 with "This Beat Goes On/Switching To Glide". We talk about working with Bob Ezrin on their debut album, his time in movies after music ended, and how a recent health scare may jeopardize the future of the band.

May 12, 2015 • 1:07:41

Episode 1 - Bruce Blackman of Starbuck

Episode 1 - Bruce Blackman of Starbuck

Bruce Blackman was the lead singer of the 70s band Starbuck, who had a #3 hit in 1976 with "Moonlight Feels Right". When the band broke up in 1980 Bruce turned his attention to other things until 2014 when he released his first solo album. We find out what he did in his time off, what motivated the comeback and how he got his famous style (check youtube to find out what I mean).

May 5, 2015 • 1:07:59

Episode 1a - Intro to The Hustle - "By Way of Explanation..."

Episode 1a - Intro to The Hustle - "By Way of Explanation..."

An explanation of the mission and inspiration behind the Hustle podcast.

May 4, 2015 • 6:23

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