For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

New York Times bestselling author Jen Hatmaker and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, have arrived in the middle years — and they couldn’t be happier about it. Each has navigated the ins and outs of life — from careers, to parenting, marriage (and, for Jen, divorce), spiritual evolution, and the joys of being hardcore Gen Xers.With each weekly episode, Jen and Amy serve as our “everywoman” guides to all the seasons — past, present, and future — as they walk excitedly and tenaciously into the second half of life.While Jen and Amy have plenty of wisdom to share — and some pretty hilarious stories, to...

Winning at Travel with “The Points Guy’s” Brian Kelly

Winning at Travel with “The Points Guy’s” Brian Kelly

Back in the olden days of the 1990s with our dial-up internet and AOL accounts, twelve-year-old Brian Kelly was at home honing his budding interest in travel planning by booking his family vacations and maximizing the reach of his family’s points and frequent flyer miles. Cut to a few decades later and that hobby (which started as a small-time blog powered by affiliate-marketing, which his mom was convinced was a scam) has evolved into a whirlwind operation that the world now knows familiarly as

Feb 21, • 1:15:06

Using Storytelling to Address Complex Social Issues: Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom

Using Storytelling to Address Complex Social Issues: Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom

Description:Jen first met Tressie McMillan Cottom the way most normal people meet – under the bright lights on the set of an Oprah special, invited by Ms. Winfrey to speak on a panel, along with other influential voices including Rebel Wilson, Amber Riley, Katie Sturino, Jamie Kern Lima, Busy Philipps and others to talk about diet culture, the harmful narratives we have surrounding our weight and our bodies, and how we can begin reframing the conversation away from one centered in shame to one f

Feb 19, • 1:11:39

No Such Thing As Good or Bad Kids: Dr. Shefali on Conscious Parenting

No Such Thing As Good or Bad Kids: Dr. Shefali on Conscious Parenting

Title: No Such Thing As Good or Bad Kids: Dr. Shefali on Conscious ParentingDescription:Today, we’re taking a trip into the archives to revisit a 2023 episode with renowned clinical psychologist and listener favorite, Dr. Shefali Tsabary, where we dove into the deeply-layered topic of conscious parenting. Those of us in the middle of life, still parenting kids at home, adjusting to parenting adult children who just launched out into the world. or in any season of the parenting journey, really, w

Feb 14, • 52:46

What Time Is Noon (and Other Nonsense We Couldn’t Make Up If We Tried) with Chip Leighton

What Time Is Noon (and Other Nonsense We Couldn’t Make Up If We Tried) with Chip Leighton

Description:Chip Leighton is a guy whose kids describe him as an “unemployed, middle-aged TikTokker“. He has turned the chaos of parenting kids – teens, in particular, into comedy gold. By taking hilarious text from teens and turning them into reels, he keeps the internet in stitches. With his hilarious take on raising teenagers that is so relatable and mirrors so many parents' exact experiences, Chip helps countless moms and dads know that they are not alone in their wild journey. Now he’s comp

Feb 12, • 1:14:41

Title: January 2025: Ruth Ware’s The Woman in Cabin 10

Title: January 2025: Ruth Ware’s The Woman in Cabin 10

Description:It seemed like a good idea at the time… a twisty, suspenseful thriller set on a cruise ship. How could this not be the perfect story to build a little buzz and excitement in my community ahead of our upcoming Jen Hatmaker cruise? Did we get more than we bargained for?Ruth Ware’s writing has rightfully been compared to that of suspense-queen, Agatha Christie, for featuring everyday female protagonists often white-knuckling it through some treacherous situations in places where they ar

Feb 7, • 57:21

Title: Big Time Adulting with Caitlin Murray

Title: Big Time Adulting with Caitlin Murray

Description:In this funny, refreshing, and irreverent conversation about parenting, Jen welcomes Caitlin Murray to the show to talk about her Big Time Adulting community space, the blog (and now podcast) that Caitlin started when her 5-year-old son was in cancer treatment for Leukemia, as a place to connect with other moms and parents craving funny, provocative, no-nonsense entertainment to distract themselves from the hamster wheel of lifeLike a big sister, Jen offers encouragement to guide Cai

Feb 5, • 1:06:29

Finding Freedom with Mel Robbins and Two Little Words: Let Them

Finding Freedom with Mel Robbins and Two Little Words: Let Them

Buckle up, listeners. It was only a matter of time before our paths crossed with Mel Robbins, one of the most respected experts on change and motivation in the zeitgeist, and today is that day. Known for being the host of the #1 ranking education podcast in the world, bringing deeply relatable topics, tactical advice, tools, and compelling conversations to her audiences, Jen and Amy spend today’s hour diving into Mel’s “Let Them” theory, which is taking the world by storm, already delivering ins

Jan 29, • 1:16:34

Tell Me More: The Power of Hard Conversations with Kelly Corrigan

Tell Me More: The Power of Hard Conversations with Kelly Corrigan

Description:In this thought-provoking conversation, Jen and Amy speak with “poet laureate of the ordinary” Kelly Corrrigan about the valuable lessons from life she’s reflecting on in this season: the significance of saying hard things, the power of listening and understanding in relationships, observations from parenting and from a career as a writer, podcaster and storyteller, and the importance of participating in democracy, regardless of who is in power. In this episode, which was recorded on

Jan 22, • 1:24:12

Unlocking Presence (and Other Woo-Woo Sh*t We Like) with Activations and Mimi Bouchard

Unlocking Presence (and Other Woo-Woo Sh*t We Like) with Activations and Mimi Bouchard

Description:Life throws some challenging stuff at us. Sometimes we rely on traditional therapies and resources trusted in Western medicine to help us through. And sometimes, we need to look to alternative and newly emerging tools to experience the relief or breakthrough that we need. In today’s conversation, Mimi Bouchard, founder of the Activations app (formerly known as Superuman) shares her transformative journey from a troubled adolescence marked by substance abuse and self-doubt to becoming

Jan 17, • 53:28

Lessons from the Road: Sydney Hatmaker on Saying Yes to the World Part 2

Lessons from the Road: Sydney Hatmaker on Saying Yes to the World Part 2

Description:In part two of this epic conversation, we continue our journey around the globe with Sydney Hatmaker to hear about some of the epic adventures and experiences had during her six months travelling across Europe and Asia with frugal funds.  In this episode: We hear how staying connected while travelling can have some serious pros and cons Sydney tells us about the 200 hours of intense yoga training she underwent in the magical landscape of the Indian Himalayan Mountains We hear about a

Jan 15, • 49:07

Living Out Her Own Version of Eat, Pray, Love: Sydney Hatmaker Explores the World pt. 1

Living Out Her Own Version of Eat, Pray, Love: Sydney Hatmaker Explores the World pt. 1

Description:At 24 years old, Jennifer Hatmaker was parenting her first diaper baby on no sleep as a stay-at-home mom and pastor’s wife. By contrast, Jen’s second-born, Sydney Hatmaker, spent half of her 24th year on a gap year travelling the world and banking a lifetime of memories.In this special two-part conversation, Sydney walks us through some of the best moments and lessons learned from her life-changing adventure, beginning in May in Berlin and ending in October in Vietnam. With stops alo

Jan 8, • 58:20

Bethany Joy Lenz: Breaking Free, Finding Faith, and Dinner for Vampires

Bethany Joy Lenz: Breaking Free, Finding Faith, and Dinner for Vampires

This week Jen and Amy sit down with actress, musician, and author Bethany Joy Lenz to discuss her deeply personal memoir, Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While also in an Actual Cult!). Bethany opens up about her experience in a high-control group, known as “The Big House Family” religious cult, the complexities of spiritual abuse, and how she found her way back to faith and autonomy with the help of a One Tree Hill fan. They explore themes of manipulation, resilience, and the power

Jan 3, • 1:15:02

Cozy Love Stories and Second Chances: A Conversation with Josie Silver

Cozy Love Stories and Second Chances: A Conversation with Josie Silver

Description:In this delightful episode, Jen Hatmaker sits down with bestselling author Josie Silver, the brilliant mind behind One Day in December. Josie shares her journey from writing ten novels to achieving massive success with this enchanting Christmas love story. Together, Jen and Josie discuss the creative process, the inspiration behind her characters, and the challenges of crafting a love story that spans a decade.Josie opens up about the unexpected ways her personal life influences her

Dec 31, 2024 • 42:06

Hope Breaks Through the Hard Stuff: Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker on Advent

Hope Breaks Through the Hard Stuff: Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker on Advent

Settle in, listeners. Jen and Amy have invited Greek and New Testament professor and scholar, Reverend Dr. Angela N. Parker to the show to reflect on the Advent season with some words of hope and liberation. She took our butts to seminary, opening our eyes to what it looks like when you examine the scripture through the lens of womanist theology and the experiences of Black women. But as Dr. Parker tells us, “I’ve lived long enough to know that God will bring me through but sometimes it’s hard a

Dec 25, 2024 • 1:07:59

Reinventing Yourself with Heather Land

Reinventing Yourself with Heather Land

This week Jen introduces Amy and the For the Love audience to her long-time friend, comedian Heather Land, who gained fame as a social media sensation through her viral I Ain’t Doin’ It videos. They discuss Heather’s journey from an early career in ministry to one in comedy, and now to her newest passion project, life coaching. Heather talks to Jen and Amy about the impact of burnout and the challenges of reinventing oneself, especially at different life stages and finding joy in her new creativ

Dec 18, 2024 • 1:10:51

Krista Tippett: Making Spiritual Conversations Relatable and Real

Krista Tippett: Making Spiritual Conversations Relatable and Real

Krista Tippett's work in the realm of spirituality and human experience is unparalleled. She just has a divine gift for distilling complex topics into clear, palatable information that we can sit with, dissect, and examine. She uses her OnBeing podcast as a place to conduct honest conversations with theologians and thought leaders about what it means to be human, what it means to be alive. Curiosity is welcome in her space. She brings a sense of calm to everything around her. So during the frenz

Dec 13, 2024 • 1:14:13

Scott Erickson Paints an Honest Picture of an Advent Season of Hope

Scott Erickson Paints an Honest Picture of an Advent Season of Hope

As we journey into this Advent season, Scott Erickson, better known to most by his moniker in the internet and art world as Scott the Painter, discusses his journey of faith and the creation of his 'Honest Advent,' project aimed at reinterpreting traditional Christmas narratives through a lens of vulnerability and authenticity. He reflects on the paradoxes of belief, the importance of community, and the need for honest conversations about faith and the human experience, particularly during the A

Dec 11, 2024 • 1:15:46

Ruth Reichl's Garlic & Sapphires

Ruth Reichl's Garlic & Sapphires

Today, Jen gets to fulfill a dream of interviewing one of her favorite influences and mentors in the food world. The iconic six-time James Beard award-winning Ruth Reichl sits down with Jen to discuss her extensive impact on food culture spanning the last several decades. They hit on everything from the alarming state of the modern food industrial complex, how we source our food and the impacts it poses to our health (as well as the hope they see for our future), to what it has been like to docu

Dec 6, 2024 • 1:12:43

Laughing Through the Chaos: Finding Joy with Tig Notaro

Laughing Through the Chaos: Finding Joy with Tig Notaro

In this conversation, recorded the morning after the presidential election, comedy phenom Tig Notaro joins Jen and Amy (donned head to toe in black in mourning) to unpack the events of the day and to help them find their happy place in the world again, which she accomplishes with tactical success. By the end of the show, they’ve laughed so hard, they’ve forgotten most of their cares. In this episode, Tig regales us with her journey as an Emmy and Grammy-nominated comedian, the influence of her f

Dec 4, 2024 • 1:15:45

Introducing: Office Ladies 6.0

Introducing: Office Ladies 6.0

The Office co-stars and best friends, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey, are doing the ultimate Office-lovers podcast for you. Each week Jenna and Angela will dive deeper into The Office giving you access to even more behind the scene details, interviews and lots of stories that only two best friends who were there, can tell you. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoi

Dec 2, 2024 • 3:47

Joyful Spaces with Bobby Berk: Design, Color, and Holiday Vibes

Joyful Spaces with Bobby Berk: Design, Color, and Holiday Vibes

This week we welcome back a treasured friend of this show, renowned design guru and the heartbeat of the Fab Five, Bobby Berk!  It’s been four years since we last talked to Bobby so we have a lot of ground to cover in this episode. Bobby tells us about the designers like Michael Graves and Isaac Mizrahi who he drew inspiration from early in his career. He tells stories about his humble beginnings with retail gigs at stores like Bed Bath & Beyond and Restoration Hardware – maybe part of what make

Nov 27, 2024 • 1:15:35

All Will Be Well: Lessons for Hard Times from Our Friend Amy Grant

All Will Be Well: Lessons for Hard Times from Our Friend Amy Grant

We’re going deep into the archives to pull out a special conversation for this week’s bonus episode with our most beloved friend, Grammy Award-winning singer/songwriter, Amy Grant. The last time Jen and Amy sat down together, it was on the heels of an exhausting,arduous time in our county. Back then, Amy delivered some profound words of wisdom in the peaceful, soothing way that only she can. And we felt her words would be a welcome balm to soothe our weary souls today so we’ve brought it back fo

Nov 22, 2024 • 1:20:01

Holiday Magic with Judy Greer: Inside The Best Christmas Pageant Ever!

Holiday Magic with Judy Greer: Inside The Best Christmas Pageant Ever!

In this special episode, Jen and Amy get a visit from a Hollywood darling we’ve loved in countless films and shows like The Descendants, Archer, 27 Dresses, Arrested Development and 13 Going on 30 to talk about her newest project based on the beloved children’s book, The Best Christmas Pageant Ever! Actress Judy Greer talks about what it’s like to collaborate on such a treasured holiday story that she somehow missed out on as a kid but was lucky enough to discover when she was cast for the role.

Nov 20, 2024 • 47:53

Building Bridges, Not Walls: Tim Shriver on Dignity that Transcends Disagreements

Building Bridges, Not Walls: Tim Shriver on Dignity that Transcends Disagreements

Let’s be honest: there are seasons in life when things feel heavy and hard and the thought of breaking through the noise and negativity seems impossible. But with a little retooling of perspective, you can shift the conversation to one that is more productive and more hope-filled. In this episode, Timothy Shriver discusses his lifelong commitment to promoting dignity and unity through his work with the Special Olympics and the Dignity Index. He shares practical steps (and real-life examples glea

Nov 13, 2024 • 1:05:52

Cooking Up Laughs with Stephen and Evie Colbert: From Gullah Cuisine to Kitchen Mishaps

Cooking Up Laughs with Stephen and Evie Colbert: From Gullah Cuisine to Kitchen Mishaps

Jen and Amy are beyond thrilled to welcome none other than late-night legend Stephen Colbert and his amazing wife, Evie McGee Colbert, to the show! They’re dishing about their brand-new cookbook, Does This Taste Funny?—a project born right in the middle of pandemic life at home. Stephen and Evie share the hilarious backstory of how this all came together, dive into their kitchen quirks (spoiler: they don’t always see eye-to-eye in the kitchen), and their mutual love for Gullah cuisine from the h

Nov 6, 2024 • 1:12:37

Sharon McMahon: “America’s Government Teacher,” Hope for Better Things

Sharon McMahon: “America’s Government Teacher,” Hope for Better Things

Friends, today’s episode is a powerhouse! We’ve got Sharon McMahon, aka “America’s Government Teacher,” bringing some serious wisdom from her new book, "The Small and the Mighty." Even the drafters of the Constitution worried about chaos, but they hoped for better things—and Sharon’s here to show us how twelve lesser-known heroes in American history made a huge impact on democracy. She’s drawing parallels to how we can still shape our future today, no matter how small we feel. Get ready to be in

Oct 30, 2024 • 1:10:13

Yvette Nicole Brown: Black women and the importance of joy and sisterhood

Yvette Nicole Brown: Black women and the importance of joy and sisterhood

In this engaging conversation, actress, activist, and all-around beautiful human, Yvette Nicole Brown, gives us a lesson on the fundamental importance of joy, the blessings of caregiving, and the significance of community support. Through an exploration of Yvettes’ career, first in the music business, and now in the entertainment industry, she and Jen and Amy discuss the many challenges that face black women today while also talking about one of black women’s greatest superpowers – the sisterhoo

Oct 23, 2024 • 1:09:26

Stanley Tucci: Food, Memories, and Emotions

Stanley Tucci: Food, Memories, and Emotions

This week Jen and Amy sit down with the charismatic and engaging Stanley Tucci, to discuss his new book, 'What I Ate in One Year', that explores the deep connections we can find amongst the food we eat, the memories we make, and the emotions we feel and how our cultural practices around food can provide fuel for us, not just in times of celebration, but can also provide us comfort in times of grief. Stanley reflects on how food plays a role in both joyous and difficult moments, emphasizing the i

Oct 16, 2024 • 55:23

Introducing: Search Engine

Introducing: Search Engine

Named a best podcast of 2023 by Vulture, Time, The Economist, & Vogue. No question too big, no question too small. On Search Engine, host PJ Vogt answers the kinds of questions you might ask the internet when you can't sleep. If you find the world bewildering, but also sometimes enjoy being bewildered by it, we're here for you. Edited by Sruthi Pinnamaneni. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choi

Oct 14, 2024 • 8:07

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. A Woman of Intelligence by Karin Tanabe

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. A Woman of Intelligence by Karin Tanabe

In this month’s Jen Hatmaker Book Club episode, we speak with the author of A Woman of Intelligence, Karin Tanabe. In this fascinating interview, we learn that Karin originally set out to write a book about WWII women code breakers, but ended up turning it into an ode to the struggles of women finding themselves during early motherhood and the imminent right they have to a future chosen for themselves. The story follows a woman in the 50’s who sets out on a spy adventure, departing wildly from h

Oct 11, 2024 • 48:41

Rethinking Influence: Malcolm Gladwell's Insights on Major Cultural Trends

Rethinking Influence: Malcolm Gladwell's Insights on Major Cultural Trends

This week Jen and Amy dive deep into the mind of bestselling author and one of the most influential thinkers of the 2000’s, Malcolm Gladwell. Exploring the intriguing concepts behind his latest book, The Revenge of the Tipping Point, the conversation ebbs and flows through Malcolm's ability to turn dense data into compelling narratives, weaving stories that captivate readers in unexpected ways. Jen and Amy key into Malcolm's knack for viewing problems from unique angles, a skill that sets him ap

Oct 9, 2024 • 1:10:00

Cooking Dreams & Destiny with Ina Garten

Cooking Dreams & Destiny with Ina Garten

This week, step into the studio (and kitchen!) with Jen and Amy as they have an intimate and insightful conversation with the iconic Ina Garten, a true pioneer in the culinary world who has shaped the way we cook at home. As they delve into Ina's groundbreaking career, from the beloved Barefoot Contessa specialty food shop to the 28 seasons of her cherished TV show, you'll discover the heart and humor behind Ina's success. Amidst laughter and heartwarming tales, the conversation takes a deeper t

Oct 2, 2024 • 1:02:43

Unstoppable in Our 50’s: Leanne Morgan’s Secrets to Finding Success (and Laughs) in Midlife

Unstoppable in Our 50’s: Leanne Morgan’s Secrets to Finding Success (and Laughs) in Midlife

Leanne Morgan was going to quit her career as a stand up comic and start a hardware store (with a cheese wheel, no less!) before she had her major break in comedy. Making the decision to invest in herself one last time opened the doors to an incredible season and newfound success in the comedy world.Jen, Amy, and Leanne get candid when talking about what it means to be the best version of themselves in their second act of life, and when success comes later, why it can be better than hav

Sep 25, 2024 • 1:01:00

The Curiosity Cure: Martha Beck’s Guide to Befriending Anxiety

The Curiosity Cure: Martha Beck’s Guide to Befriending Anxiety

At the height of her worldly and academic success garnering three Harvard degrees, Martha Beck received life altering news, and discovered that maybe she didn’t know everything. This set off a lifetime of pursuing ways to soothe her nervous system from anxiety and find freedom in a new purpose.In a world where anxiety seems to be spiraling out of control, Martha offers a revolutionary approach to understanding and befriending anxiety. Drawing from cutting-edge neuroscience and her years

Sep 18, 2024 • 1:05:52

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. The Little Italian Hotel by Phaedra Patrick

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. The Little Italian Hotel by Phaedra Patrick

Jen and New York Times best-selling author, Phaedra Patrick, discuss “The Little Italian Hotel” and how finding a way through heartache can look wildly different from one person to the next. Phaedra was a self-taught writer who almost gave up on her dream before she had a breakthrough with her runaway hit, “The Curious Charms of Arthur Pepper.” In her darkest moments she always reminds herself, “When I don’t feel confident, I just tell myself that I can always feel determined instead.”

Sep 13, 2024 • 50:07

[ENCORE] Redefining Aging: Cheryl Bridges Johns on Embracing the Menopausal Journey

[ENCORE] Redefining Aging: Cheryl Bridges Johns on Embracing the Menopausal Journey

Have you ever met someone who’s excited about menopause? It might seem like a rare breed, but isn’t it time we reconsider our relationship with aging? While society often tells us that 50 should look like 30, the reality is that growing older is a badge of honor—even if it comes with its own set of quirks. Menopause, instead of being a dreaded foe, is more like an old friend that invites us to a new chapter filled with wisdom, laughter, and some hilariously unpredictable moments. Rather than shy

Sep 11, 2024 • 59:31

MAKING SENSE OF THE 2024 ELECTION: With Pantsuit Politics’ Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers

MAKING SENSE OF THE 2024 ELECTION: With Pantsuit Politics’ Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers

It’s election season, and it’s been an interesting ride to this cycle’s moment of truth! Jen and Amy dive deep into the heart of the upcoming 2024 election with the insightful women from Pantsuit Politics–Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers. The conversation centers around the distinct dynamics shaping this election, along with insight as to why it’s vastly different from 2016; sparking a thought-provoking dialogue about the evolving political landscape. With Vice President Kamala Ha

Sep 4, 2024 • 1:06:39

Escaping the Productivity Trap: Kendra Adachi’s Lazy Genius Perspective

Escaping the Productivity Trap: Kendra Adachi’s Lazy Genius Perspective

It’s a brand new season of the show and we are thrilled to have Amy Hardin, Jen’s longtime friend, join us on the podcast for a whole new adventure in laughing at ourselves and learning from our incredible guests. The Lazy Genius herself, Kendra Adachi, joins Jen and Amy today to challenge our culture's obsession with productivity and time management. Kendra offers a revolutionary perspective: the problem isn't you — it's the capitalistic, patriarchal culture we've all been raised in. K

Aug 28, 2024 • 1:02:17

Friendship By the Numbers: Enneagram Expert Ian Cron Weighs In

Friendship By the Numbers: Enneagram Expert Ian Cron Weighs In

It’s an exciting time here at the For the Love Podcast and we are excited to share a brand new season of the show, now featuring Jen’s longtime friend, Amy Hardin! Amy’s been popping into the show all summer, and we’re thrilled to welcome her with an official seat across from Jen for all our upcoming episodes!  And what better way to get to know Amy and Jen together all over again than to bring on an Enneagram personality typing expert to give the nod to their beautiful partnership.Ian

Aug 21, 2024 • 1:08:08

[BONUS ENCORE] Following Your Heart for Meaningful Change with Jennifer Garner

[BONUS ENCORE] Following Your Heart for Meaningful Change with Jennifer Garner

Jen and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, return together to introduce this previous interview with Jennifer Garner that was one of For the Love’s top downloaded episodes of all time. Jen and Amy chat about their favorite Jennifer Garner projects and how impressed they are with her activism and philanthropic work.In the interview itself, Jennifer Garner shares how she navigates life as a mom, an entrepreneur, and an actress. So many of us have followed Jen's career through TV & film,

Aug 16, 2024 • 1:00:22

How Positivity Goes Toxic with Kate Bowler

How Positivity Goes Toxic with Kate Bowler

Jen and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, are back together to introduce this interview with Kate Bowler that originally aired as a premium channel episode. They examine the ways a “toxic positivity” mindset and a misguided understanding of “blessings” can harm relationships and culture.If you’ve ever felt your soul drag to the ground after reading a #blessed post on Instagram, there’s relief for you here. Kate Bowler shows us a gentler way to look at the concept of blessings, so that so

Aug 14, 2024 • 1:03:47

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Wisdom of Your Body by Hillary McBride

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Wisdom of Your Body by Hillary McBride

It’s an exciting time here at the For the Love Podcast and we are excited to share a brand new season of the show, now featuring Jen’s longtime friend, Amy Hardin! Amy’s been popping into the show all summer, and we’re thrilled to welcome her with an official seat across from Jen for all our upcoming episodes!  And what better way to get to know Amy and Jen together all over again than to bring on an Enneagram personality typing expert to give the nod to their beautiful partnership.Ian

Aug 9, 2024 • 1:00:50

Crime Junkies Host Ashley Flowers on True Crime, Activism, and Becoming a Novelist

Crime Junkies Host Ashley Flowers on True Crime, Activism, and Becoming a Novelist

As part of our summer series of re-airing the best of “For the Love,” we also have Jen’s long time friend, Amy Hardin, joining Jen to introduce this episode that was originally aired on the premium channel. In this new episode, we’ll hear about Jen and Amy’s summer so far and what constitutes guilty pleasure TV binges.True crime might be considered a guilty pleasure, but if you haven’t done a deep dive into the genre, then this will be an eye opening conversation for you. We’ve got an amazing gu

Aug 7, 2024 • 55:06

Kelly Corrigan Wonders Preview Episode - Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work

Kelly Corrigan Wonders Preview Episode - Going Deep with Mónica Guzmán on Making Family Work

Móni Guzmán came to the US from Mexico with her family many decades ago. In the past two presidential elections, her parents voted for Trump while she voted for Clinton and Biden. This created the kind of tension that must be managed very carefully. Fortunately, and relatedly, Móni has professional experience with difficult conversations in her capacity as a senior fellow at Braver Angels. We lean heavily on the ideas in Móni’s book, I Never Thought of It That Way, in this episode and t

Aug 2, 2024 • 5:05

The Shaky Future of Women’s Reproductive Health with Dr. Natalie Crawford

The Shaky Future of Women’s Reproductive Health with Dr. Natalie Crawford

It’s been two years since Roe v. Wade was overturned by the Supreme Court. As the power to rule over women’s reproductive rights reverts to the states, we are seeing many move toward vast limitations of reproductive choices, including bans on terminating pregnancies, but also devastating impediments toward the processes that have helped those who are struggling with infertility have a chance to conceive. To open up this conversation and really delve into what this decision means, we hav

Jul 31, 2024 • 1:07:18

[ENCORE] YOUR Body Keeps the Score: Unwinding Trauma with Dr. Bessel van der Kolk

[ENCORE] YOUR Body Keeps the Score: Unwinding Trauma with Dr. Bessel van der Kolk

We’re bringing back one of our most popular episodes ever on the pod - featuring “The Body Keeps the Score” author Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. And for a fun NEW take on the episode, Jen Hatmaker has asked one of her best friends, Amy Hardin, to join her to discuss their thoughts on this episode! Listen as Jen and Amy discuss their meet cute and then wade into the episode which delves into the relationship between trauma and the body, relating their personal experiences around this. Dr. Van

Jul 24, 2024 • 1:10:45

How to Stay Sane When the World Feels on Fire with CNN’s Kirsten Powers

How to Stay Sane When the World Feels on Fire with CNN’s Kirsten Powers

Kirsten Powers is a tenured news analyst who lived inside our modern age’s belly of the beast — 24-Hour Network News. Kirsten Powers lived and breathed as a senior news analyst at Fox News and then CNN for years. Eventually, she hit a breaking point and realized living full throttle, enraged about the state of the world, wasn't doing her or anyone she loved any favors. She pulled back and began examining what it would be like if she stayed engaged in political news but also still center

Jul 17, 2024 • 54:40

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Here for It by R. Eric Thomas

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Here for It by R. Eric Thomas

Bestselling author, R. Eric Thomas, wrote “Here for It” in 2020 and it continues to reverberate in the hearts and minds of readers because of its timely topics and riveting personal story—making it a perfect “revisit” for our book club community! With humor and vulnerability, Eric shares about his memoir which is equal parts hilarity and heart–and what it took to write about his intersecting identities as a Black, queer, Christian man.Join Jen and Eric as they traverse transforming the

Jul 12, 2024 • 37:04

The 5 Things Anyone Who Cooks Needs To Know with Bri McKoy

The 5 Things Anyone Who Cooks Needs To Know with Bri McKoy

Our guest this week is bringing core insights into the kitchen so that everyone can: a.) enjoy cooking and b.) turn it from a massive chore to a bright spot in your day. Author, blogger and “accidental cook” Bri McKoy is here, talking with Jen about the best practices and advice on how to become the kind of cook you want to be for your own life. Drawn from her essential cookbook, “The Cooks Book: Recipes for Keeps and Essential Techniques to Master Everyday Cooking,” Bri wants to share

Jul 10, 2024 • 56:26

Feeling at Home In Your Body: Prentis Hemphill on Healing Through Embodiment

Feeling at Home In Your Body: Prentis Hemphill on Healing Through Embodiment

Do you struggle to feel truly at home in your body? We’re here to tell you; that it is possible. Our episode this week is a topic we return to often because we just can’t hear it enough; how we can heal our connections to our bodies. We have author and embodiment expert, Prentis Hemphill on the show, and she and Jen explore the idea of healing through embodied practices. Prentis shares poignant insights from their work in the Black community processing racial trauma through reconnecting

Jul 3, 2024 • 36:56

Get Your Life Together with Peloton’s Cody Rigsby

Get Your Life Together with Peloton’s Cody Rigsby

Coming in hot for our Queer Futures series, we’re bringing you an interview previously aired on For The Love’s Premium Podcast channel with celebrity Peloton instructor, Cody Rigsby. Cody has gained a devoted following through his engaging and motivational fitness classes on the Peloton platform. He talks about his memoir "XOXO Cody: An Opinionated Homosexual's Guide to Self-Love, Relationships and Tactful Pettiness" in which he opens up about transitioning from professional dance to fitness, hi

Jun 26, 2024 • 47:58

Centering Others: Empowerment in the Margins with Roxane Gay & Megan Pillow

Centering Others: Empowerment in the Margins with Roxane Gay & Megan Pillow

This powerful episode in our Queer Futures series features an enlightening conversation about power structures with Jen and renowned author Roxane Gay and co-writer Megan Pillow. The women explore not only the concept of individual power, but how we can engage in community empowerment. Together, they delve into how marginalized communities, particularly LGBTQ+ individuals, can claim their power and challenge existing power structures to create a more inclusive and just society.Discussio

Jun 19, 2024 • 1:00:09

[BONUS] Anne Lamott on Faith, Writing, and Radical Self-Love

[BONUS] Anne Lamott on Faith, Writing, and Radical Self-Love

In this special bonus episode of the For the Love Podcast, Jen sits down with her literary hero — beloved author and teacher, Anne Lamott, whose candid, humorous writing has inspired millions to embrace their imperfect selves.Anne and Jen explore the hard-won wisdom distilled across Anne's 45-year career and 20 books - from finding radical self-love after a lifetime of shame, to surrendering to life's ordinary miracles during periods of existential crisis. With refreshing irreverence, A

Jun 14, 2024 • 1:01:08

[ENCORE] Growing Up Evangelical and Gay with Jonathan Merritt

[ENCORE] Growing Up Evangelical and Gay with Jonathan Merritt

Jen Hatmaker revisits one of the most impactful and downloaded episodes from her "For the Love" podcast's 7-year history. In this powerful encore, she has a candid conversation with acclaimed writer and speaker Jonathan Merritt who publicly comes out as gay for the first time during their interview.Jen and Jonathan reflect on their intertwined journeys - she as an ally leaving the evangelical world, he as a prominent faith voice reckoning with his sexuality. Brace yourself for an emotio

Jun 12, 2024 • 1:06:13

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. When Women Were Dragons by Kelly Barnhill

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. When Women Were Dragons by Kelly Barnhill

Jen and award-winning author, Kelly Barnhill, discuss the powerful themes and inspirations behind her genre-defying book "When Women Were Dragons." Sparked by her outrage during the Kavanaugh hearings, Barnhill created a bold metaphor where women transform into dragons to escape societal oppression.In this conversation, she delves into her controversial ending that ultimately represents the multitude of paths to female empowerment. Barnhill also examines the dangerous historical pattern

Jun 7, 2024 • 34:22

[ENCORE] A Moment of Pride: Jen and Sydney Hatmaker On Being Gay, Christian and Loved

[ENCORE] A Moment of Pride: Jen and Sydney Hatmaker On Being Gay, Christian and Loved

This week’s top episode from the archives is our number one most listened to episode. In a profoundly moving encore episode, Jen Hatmaker shares the story of interviewing her daughter, Sydney, as Sydney shared her emotional coming out story. This raw conversation follows Sydney as she vulnerably shares her journey of accepting herself as gay while still holding onto her faith–and we’re very excited to share this again during Pride Month as part of our Queer Futures series.Jen reintroduc

Jun 5, 2024 • 45:51

When Women Connect, We’re Powerful Together: Christine Blasey Ford

When Women Connect, We’re Powerful Together: Christine Blasey Ford

In this emotionally charged last episode in our For the Love of the Matriarchy series, Jen shares an intimate and profound conversation with Christine Blasey Ford, who came into the public eye when she testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on September 27th, 2018, while it was considering the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court; describing an alleged sexual assault by the Supreme Court nominee that took place at a high school party in the 80s

May 29, 2024 • 41:17

Matrescence: Unraveling the Myths and Realities of Being a Mother

Matrescence: Unraveling the Myths and Realities of Being a Mother

Today we’re diving into the profound biological, psychological and social shifts experienced when becoming a mother - a process known as "matrescence.” Jen sits down with science journalist, Lucy Jones, who experienced a seismic identity shift that arose after the birth of her first child.  Lucy and Jen unpack groundbreaking neuroscience research and they expose the deep-rooted myths and unrealistic expectations surrounding modern motherhood. From the minimizing of postpartum struggles

May 22, 2024 • 50:14

On Our Best Behavior: Elise Loehnen Pushes Back on the Patriarchal Narrative

On Our Best Behavior: Elise Loehnen Pushes Back on the Patriarchal Narrative

In this episode of the Matriarchy series, we explore how deeply ingrained patriarchal narratives can create a policing effect on the behavior of women. Author, Elise Loehnen, discusses her book "On Our Best Behavior" which examines how concepts like the seven deadly sins have historically been used to restrict women's behavior and police their adherence to an idealized form of "goodness." Loehnen unpacks the insidious ways women are culturally conditioned from a young age to suppress no

May 15, 2024 • 52:21

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Violeta by Isabel Allende

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Violeta by Isabel Allende

Jen and Isabel Allende discuss her novel, Violeta, and why Allende makes her bold choices in characters, events, and settings. Allende shares her fascinating personal background - born in Peru, living as a refugee, and eventually immigrating to the U.S. where she began her writing career. Allende explains how Violeta's story was inspired by her own mother's life and letters, which Allende has meticulously preserved over decades. The author discusses how Violeta's complicated romantic relationsh

May 10, 2024 • 52:54

[BONUS] A Year Lost and Found: Brittney Griner's Story of Survival

[BONUS] A Year Lost and Found: Brittney Griner's Story of Survival

For this special bonus episode, Jen talks with WNBA star, Brittney Griner, who shares her powerful story of resilience after she was wrongfully detained in Russian prisons for nearly a year. Brittney provides a heartbreaking firsthand account of the inhumane conditions she endured, from the lack of legal rights and translators to cruel psychological tactics by guards. She opens up about the pivotal role her faith played in giving her mental strength to survive.Brittney also discusses th

May 9, 2024 • 38:56

Summoning Resilience In Our Darkest Times: Bozoma Saint John on Loss and Motherhood

Summoning Resilience In Our Darkest Times: Bozoma Saint John on Loss and Motherhood

Continuing In our For the Love of The Matriarchy series, Jen talks with powerful women who are taking innovative approaches to their work, their relationships, and their joy. Bozoma Saint John is a trailblazing marketing executive whose career has taken her to the heights of companies like Pepsi, Apple, Uber and Netflix. But her path to becoming a "badass" has been one marked by profound loss and upheaval. From the loss of her first child and her husband's battle with cancer, to being t

May 8, 2024 • 1:05:01

Breaking Free From Patriarchal Rule: Cait West’s Escape from Spiritual Abuse

Breaking Free From Patriarchal Rule: Cait West’s Escape from Spiritual Abuse

Welcome to the For The Love of The Matriarchy series where we’ll explore all the different aspects of women working to embrace agency and celebrating their worth. As we celebrate the power of women and their accomplishments, we’ll also look at the challenges women have faced in a patriarchal society (and still face) and what that means for their bodies and autonomy. Cait West is an author who grew up in an extreme patriarchal Christian community. She was taught from a young age that her

May 1, 2024 • 1:04:27

The Only Constant is You: Navigating Life's Changes with Najwa Zebian

The Only Constant is You: Navigating Life's Changes with Najwa Zebian

In our lives, we are often confronted with moments of profound change - whether it's the result of circumstances beyond our control, or a deliberate choice to step into something new. During these pivotal transitions, it can be tempting to focus on pleasing others or trying to meet the expectations of our family, friends, and community. However, truly transformative growth requires the courage to choose ourselves and to trust our inner wisdom.Author and activist, Najwa Zebian, offers a powerful

Apr 24, 2024 • 1:01:44

Introducing: Million Dollar Advice

Introducing: Million Dollar Advice

Million Dollar Advice is a work and career advice podcast hosted by friends and colleagues Kim Lessing and Kate Arend. Together, Kim and Kate run Amy Poehler’s Paper Kite Productions and are very cool and good at their jobs. Each week, they will help live callers with their work-related dilemmas. Whether you have a question or you just like listening to other people’s problems, this show will change your life. If you have a problem at work or a career question big or small, write in to milliondo

Apr 22, 2024 • 4:01

Embracing Small Habits To Impact Who You Want to Become ft. James Clear

Embracing Small Habits To Impact Who You Want to Become ft. James Clear

Making a change in our lives can feel like a big, all encompassing thing; and sometimes we avoid change because of that very notion. But here’s some good news: making meaningful change in our lives actually starts with one small choice at a time, and it doesn’t have to be overwhelming or hard. This week, we’ve got the inside scoop on how to form habits that you actually want to stick with and someone who is going to let us in on the simple secrets to real and lasting change. James Clear

Apr 17, 2024 • 1:02:06

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima

Hey, book lovers! We’ve got something a little different straight coming to you from the Jen Hatmaker Book Club this month, and if you haven’t been a part of the conversation, we invite you to join us and all our fellow book nerds over at JenHatmakerBookClub.com. We’re sharing our March selection, with you, our dear listeners, and we hope it will inspire you and have you thinking a little differently about the lies we tell ourselves as women and how we can get to that next right thing f

Apr 12, 2024 • 45:04

Shattering the Ice Princess: Gracie Gold Reveals Her Real Self

Shattering the Ice Princess: Gracie Gold Reveals Her Real Self

Continuing in our series of Embracing Change, Jen talks with an elite athlete who found their life caving in, leaving themselves with no other choice than to flow with the transitions. In this candid conversation, Jen and Olympic figure skater Gracie Gold delve into Gracie's battles with mental health, disordered eating, and the intense pressures of elite athletics.Gracie’s story speaks to immense strength - navigating the insidious grip of an eating disorder that spanned longer than ma

Apr 10, 2024 • 52:48

Flinging Ourselves Into Fresh Starts ft. Joy Sullivan

Flinging Ourselves Into Fresh Starts ft. Joy Sullivan

Our new series of Embracing Change is a deep examination of all the different ways change shows up in our lives and all the ways we can respond to it. As Jen says in this interview, our guest today went through a “chosen change.” Hers was a transformation that felt inevitable after all the small, incremental posture changes made her ready for the leap to follow — a leap toward more sanity, more love, and more joy. Joy Sullivan is a poet and community builder. Her new book “Instructions

Apr 3, 2024 • 54:55

Kobe Campbell on Gently Excavating Our Trauma

Kobe Campbell on Gently Excavating Our Trauma

We’re finishing up our For the Love of Wonderful You series intentionally with a deep breath and a gentle word of encouragement. In this episode, even though we are talking about trauma, critical inner voices, and the arduous process of grief, Jen and her guest unwind these topics in the most gentle and loving way. Kobe Campbell is an award-winning therapist who specializes in helping people process grief and trauma in a way that unearths true empowerment. Hidden beneath the clamor of everyday l

Mar 27, 2024 • 48:23

Celeste Barber on the Beauty of Being Totally Unfiltered

Celeste Barber on the Beauty of Being Totally Unfiltered

We’ve got someone on the show this week who makes it her business to show us exactly how wonderful we as women are–just as we are! She is the queen of keeping it real, a hilariously honest actress, standup comedian, and the Instagram star who has become our go-to for a belly laugh when the world's expectations just seem a tad too polished–it’s Celeste Barber!If you haven’t seen Celeste on her Instagram account, get on over there and join the nearly 10 million people who are clamoring fo

Mar 20, 2024 • 43:52

Introducing: We Can Do Hard Things Podcast

Introducing: We Can Do Hard Things Podcast

Here’s a little bonus for all our listeners this week–a preview from one of our fellow Audcacy Network podcasts, We Can Do Hard Things! Life is freaking hard. We are all doing hard things every single day – things like loving and losing; caring for children and parents; forging and ending friendships; battling addiction, illness, and loneliness; struggling in our jobs, our marriages, and our divorces; setting boundaries; and fighting for equality, purpose, freedom, joy, and peace. On W

Mar 18, 2024 • 16:01

Amanda Doyle Stops Keeping Score And Stays In The Moment

Amanda Doyle Stops Keeping Score And Stays In The Moment

It’s the start of a new series, For The Love of Wonderful You! Spring is arriving and as the winter slumber fades away, many of us are likely plunging into a frantic pace of commitments and To Do lists. But we want to take a minute (or approximately 45-mins to an hour) to create a moment where we can punch the brakes a little. Let’s tell that inner taskmaster to relax; and instead, reflect on finding value in who we are in this moment, and how worthy we are just as we are. Jen’s amazing conversa

Mar 13, 2024 • 1:11:58

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Take My Hand by Dolen Perkins-Valdez

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Take My Hand by Dolen Perkins-Valdez

For this month’s book club pick, we are headed into 1970’s Montgomery, Alabama. Based on a true story, Take My Hand by Dolen Perkins-Valdez is an unflinching exploration of accountability and redemption through an era that was plagued with bias and coercion. The central character, Civil Townsend, is a complicated heroine fresh out of nursing school with a deep desire to make a difference in her Black community at the Montgomery Family Planning Clinic. During her first week on the job, Civil enco

Mar 8, 2024 • 47:45

Sparking Change In America: Joy Reid Calls Out Injustice Everywhere

Sparking Change In America: Joy Reid Calls Out Injustice Everywhere

We’re wrapping up our series featuring Black Trailblazers, and we couldn’t be more thrilled to have another guest who has broken barriers and basically created their own space as part of the national conversation, becoming the first black woman to anchor a cable primetime show. You may know her from her seat as a political analyst on MSNBC, or as the host of her own show, The ReidOut. It’s the amazing Joy Reid, everyone! Joy is a Harvard grad with a degree in visual and environmental st

Mar 6, 2024 • 56:50

From Small Town To Big Influence: Jerrie Merritt’s Legacy of Giving Back

From Small Town To Big Influence: Jerrie Merritt’s Legacy of Giving Back

In this week’s episode in our Black Trailblazer’s series, Jen may have leveraged her connections, and we couldn’t be more thrilled that she did. We’re excited to have a wonderful sit down with the amazing Jerrie Merritt (who just happens to be Jen’s boyfriend Tyler’s mother–and a Black trailblazer in every sense of the word). In addition to being Tyler’s mom, Jerrie’s currently the Senior VP of Community Development at the Bank of Nevada in Las Vegas. Her banking career spans 40 plus ye

Feb 28, 2024 • 1:08:55

[BONUS] Holding Space for the Laughter and Tears of Our Stories ft. Savannah Guthrie

[BONUS] Holding Space for the Laughter and Tears of Our Stories ft. Savannah Guthrie

The world is on fire, and finding unexpected pathways that make sense of the world are hard won these days. And the people we look to, whether it’s through our socials, or the books we read, or even the news shows we watch, can do a lot to help ease us into whatever new madness faces us each morning.One of the people so many of us look to each day does an amazing job of just that; bringing grace, compassion and humor to her reporting each morning as part of the ‘Today’ Show. We’ve got S

Feb 23, 2024 • 49:29

A’ja Wilson on How Authenticity Is Your Superpower

A’ja Wilson on How Authenticity Is Your Superpower

Women's sports are having a major moment right now, with basketball superstars like A'ja Wilson leading the charge. Considered one of the best WNBA players to ever grace the court, A'ja is using her towering influence to encourage not only young black girls, but all women who have felt the need to change who they are to fit in. A’ja fought to be herself every step of the way in her journey of becoming a G.O.A.T. in the WNBA. In this uplifting conversation, A'ja Wilson opens up about the

Feb 21, 2024 • 54:15

A Glimpse Into the End of Life with Hospice Nurse Hadley Vlahos

A Glimpse Into the End of Life with Hospice Nurse Hadley Vlahos

As we close out our For the Love of Facing Your Fears series, we're diving headfirst into a topic that we will all face at one point in our lives (hopefully later than sooner); our very own expiration dates. It’s one of humanity’s most universal yet daunting fears, and we’ve got a compassionate and experienced guide to walk us through the kinds of things we might wonder about, and the beautiful unexpected moments that can accompany our final days. Hadley Vlahos is a hospice nurse whose life expe

Feb 14, 2024 • 40:09

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. No Cure For Being Human and Other Truths by Kate Bowler

[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. No Cure For Being Human and Other Truths by Kate Bowler

Calling all book lovers, we’ve got another great entry in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club this month, and we’ve also got a good friend of Jen’s sitting in the author’s seat–none other than the amazing Kate Bowler. Kate walks us through her highly personal medical journey, as told through No Cure For Being Human and Other Truths. Kate shares the profound realization that her life depended on becoming an empowered participant in her healthcare rather than a passive recipient. As she waded thro

Feb 9, 2024 • 50:40

Dr. Rick Hanson on Confrontation as a Path to Well-Being

Dr. Rick Hanson on Confrontation as a Path to Well-Being

We’ve got another empowering episode in our Facing Your Fears series, and boy, do we have a fear that hits close to home for a lot of us – confronting those tough conversations we'd rather dance around than dive into. If the thought of confrontation has you squirming in your seat, you’re in good company. But what if we flipped the script and viewed these moments of truth-telling as acts of honor, steps towards healing and improvement?Jen invites the insightful Dr. Rick Hanson, celebrate

Feb 7, 2024 • 1:03:20

Ashton Applewhite Unravels Harmful Attitudes Toward Aging

Ashton Applewhite Unravels Harmful Attitudes Toward Aging

As we continue our series on facing our fears, we introduce a fear that many of us may not talk about comfortably, but in reality, we are all facing; the fact that we are aging. In case this is something that moves you into a state of deep denial, or perhaps you are employing a world of efforts (including for-profit products and practices) to stave off the inevitable progression, or even if you are just taking it all in stride, we all are subject to what the world at large has to say ab

Jan 31, 2024 • 55:25

Tapping into Mental Strength to Overcome Fear ft. Amy Morin

Tapping into Mental Strength to Overcome Fear ft. Amy Morin

We all have things that scare us. And it’s not because we’re doing life wrong; fear, in and of itself, is a normal emotion. So then what do we do with it? That's really what this series, For the Love of Facing Your Fears, is all about. Today’s guest will be walking us through some strategies on facing our fears in a healthy way by showing us what habits mentally strong people employ in their lives. Amy Morin is a renowned psychotherapist, a bestselling author and she's devoted her whole

Jan 24, 2024 • 47:51

Moving from Insider to Outsider: Derek Webb’s Peaceful Disruption

Moving from Insider to Outsider: Derek Webb’s Peaceful Disruption

Isn’t it fun to be part of the in-crowd? Where you can connect with people who are of like minds and spirits, where everyone seems to be headed in the same direction? But what if you start having nagging questions as an insider that don’t seem to get resolved, and even worse, are met with disdain or fear from other members of your group? This can be a scary place for so many of us. For the purposes of our conversation today–we’re talking about when it happens in religious spaces. For ye

Jan 17, 2024 • 1:15:30

The Vagina Bible: Debunking Myths and Misinformation Around The Female Body Ft. Dr. Jen Gunter

The Vagina Bible: Debunking Myths and Misinformation Around The Female Body Ft. Dr. Jen Gunter

Do you ever feel like you don’t have all the answers and information you need around your very own body? Are there beliefs or “facts” you might have learned that maybe aren’t actually centered around truth or science? Perhaps you’ve entered various seasons of your life as a female (menstruation, fertility, childbirth, hormone fluctuation, perimenopause, menopause) where you’ve felt like your concerns were dismissed or you weren’t given the tools, knowledge or treatment to help you navig

Jan 10, 2024 • 55:37

For the Love of Peace: Exploring Our Senses as a Pathway to a More Peaceful Life ft. Gretchen Rubin

For the Love of Peace: Exploring Our Senses as a Pathway to a More Peaceful Life ft. Gretchen Rubin

How often do you stop and think about how well your sense of smell is working? Or how well you’re hearing? When was the last time you really thought about your vision and how it’s impacting the way you interact with the world? We’re grateful today for a friend of the show who’s returning to remind us that when we tune into our body and senses, we can start to shape our sensory world to best fit who we are. And when we are comfortable in that world, peace is more easily attained. Gretche

Jan 3, 2024 • 43:52

This Year, Every Little Thing Counts: Jen’s 2023 Recap

This Year, Every Little Thing Counts: Jen’s 2023 Recap

Wrapping up another amazing and somewhat wild year here on the For the Love Podcast. For this special episode, Jen is flying solo to share her thoughts on what 2023 meant to her, what pinnacles were met, what didn’t go so well, and the many things add to the gratefulness list. From celebrating long time friendships and new friendships, to milestones with her kids, to being in a relationship as a “girlfriend,” to going through perimenopause and becoming gluten free, Jen recounts the blessings and

Dec 27, 2023 • 1:06:35

[BONUS] Jen’s Brave Journey Toward Releasing Her Inner Lion - A Story on The Meditative Story Podcast

[BONUS] Jen’s Brave Journey Toward Releasing Her Inner Lion - A Story on The Meditative Story Podcast

Focusing on all things related to peace this holiday season, we’re pleased to present a special bonus episode from The Meditative Story Podcast, featuring our very own Jen Hatmaker. In this episode, Ryan, host of the Meditative Story Podcast, guides the listener with meditative prompts and music while Jen tells a story from her days growing up in church where she witnessed concrete power dynamics play out between men, women, husbands and wives. Jen speaks to how doubtful she is that she

Dec 22, 2023 • 48:05

For the Love of Peace: What Will You Leave Behind This Year? Ft. Father James Martin

For the Love of Peace: What Will You Leave Behind This Year? Ft. Father James Martin

In our ongoing pursuit of peace at the end of the year, Jen sits down with Father James Martin, one of America's most beloved spiritual leaders and a New York Times bestselling author. Known for his thought-provoking books "The Jesuit Guide to Almost Everything" and "Learning to Pray," Jen and Father Martin talk about the premises in Father Martin’s new book "Come Forth, the Promise of Jesus's Greatest Miracle," which tells the iconic story of the raising of biblical Lazarus from the de

Dec 20, 2023 • 53:09

For the Love of Peace: Finding Peace Within Our Grief: Sal & Im’s Tips for Good Mourning

For the Love of Peace: Finding Peace Within Our Grief: Sal & Im’s Tips for Good Mourning

In our ongoing pursuit of peace during the holidays, we’re tackling something this week that we might forget others are facing during the holidays (or perhaps we are trying to trudge through ourselves); grief. Everyone's grief journey is unique, but during a season where “joy” is being pushed 24/7, our grief can feel like it’s 10 times its normal size as we struggle to “show up” in the ways we usually do during the holidays. Our guests this week are here to remind us of several importan

Dec 13, 2023 • 54:50

For the Love of Peace: You Deserve Time To Rest with Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith

For the Love of Peace: You Deserve Time To Rest with Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith

Are you one of those people that says “I’ll rest when I’m dead?” We can relate. As busy people–partners, parents, career drivers, caretakers and a host of other hats we wear, rest seems like an elusive and sometimes impossible task–especially during the holidays. To kick off our new series, For the Love of Peace, we’re here to tell you–you need and deserve rest. And lest you think rest is just getting 8 hours of sleep at night (wouldn’t we all love that), it’s more. We need emotional, creative,

Dec 6, 2023 • 50:16

For the Love of Therapy: Two Friends Compare Notes On Therapy: Jen and Kelly

For the Love of Therapy: Two Friends Compare Notes On Therapy: Jen and Kelly

We’re bringing a close to our series on therapy, and we couldn’t be happier to have Kelly Corrigan with us to have a candid conversation with Jen around their thoughts on therapy, including when it first entered their awareness, and now, in a more enlightened age, how the next generation has more access to therapeutic help. Even as recently as 20-30 years ago, therapy was not talked about a lot in public. For Jen and Kelly, they didn’t see it modeled from their parents, it wasn’t mentioned in th

Nov 29, 2023 • 1:08:14

For the Love of Therapy: Freedom From Codependency with Melody Beattie

For the Love of Therapy: Freedom From Codependency with Melody Beattie

We’re back with some more therapeutic goodness as we approach the tail end of our therapy series with another fire episode! Awareness around mental health, trauma, dysfunctional family systems and more has been coming into the national awareness on a bigger level over the last 10 years. But back in 1986, the concept of codependency was really new. And unless you were deep into studying sociology or psychology or seeing a therapist yourself back then (also something that wasn’t as widely

Nov 22, 2023 • 57:50

Jen’s Favorites: 7th Annual Christmas Gift Guide

Jen’s Favorites: 7th Annual Christmas Gift Guide

It’s that time of year again, and we’re back with another *fire* gift guide for all your giving needs this season. And not only are we showcasing amazing and thoughtful gift finds, every gift we feature gives back as well! This year, we’re partnering with Ten Thousand Villages to present a beautiful array of artisan products. Ten Thousand Villages is a global maker to market movement that addresses economic injustice. We love to shop with intention, and Ten Thousand Villages gives us th

Nov 15, 2023 • 37:04

For the Love of Therapy: Wellness Doesn’t Come From a Product, It Comes From Within: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin

For the Love of Therapy: Wellness Doesn’t Come From a Product, It Comes From Within: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin

In this latest installment of our For The Love of Therapy series, we delve into a timely discussion on mental wellness with a focus on genuine self-care. Our guest, Dr. Pooja Lakshmin, a renowned psychiatrist and advocate for women, offers fresh insights that urge listeners to break free from the superficial beauty and wellness industry's narrative that is steadily being pushed at us through all kinds of media, but in a dizzying fashion on social media, in particular. Steering the talk

Nov 8, 2023 • 55:26

For the  Love of Therapy: Are You Happy? Dr. Sara Kuburic Wants Us To Stop Lying To Ourselves and Take Ownership of Our Choices

For the Love of Therapy: Are You Happy? Dr. Sara Kuburic Wants Us To Stop Lying To Ourselves and Take Ownership of Our Choices

It’s time for this week’s podcast therapy session and we’ve got another great therapist in our “office” as part of our For the Love of Therapy series. Dr. Sara Kuburic is an existential psychotherapist, author and the force behind The @Millennial.Therapist account on Instagram. Dr. Kuburic believes that each of us is a free and responsible agent who determines our own development through acts of our will. Though this isn’t always a popular view to take, as we often look to outside force

Nov 1, 2023 • 49:06

For the Love of Therapy: Jada Pinkett-Smith on Trauma, Grief, and the Power of Embracing Your Journey

For the Love of Therapy: Jada Pinkett-Smith on Trauma, Grief, and the Power of Embracing Your Journey

We’re in the thick of our “For the Love of Therapy” series, and this week we’re getting a full helping of candor and insight from the multifaceted actress and author, Jada Pinkett Smith. Jada candidly reveals another side to her journey that many might not know from her highly public persona, a story where she takes charge of her narrative in the face of what people have decided for themselves who they think she is. Jada recounts the formative and often traumatic events of her past, and

Oct 25, 2023 • 50:18

For the Love of Therapy: Women and Emotions - No More Apologies: Dr. Anita Phillips

For the Love of Therapy: Women and Emotions - No More Apologies: Dr. Anita Phillips

Have you ever been told you are “too emotional,” or if you display sadness or anger that you’re “overreacting,” or (gasp) - even “hysterical?” Women have long had their emotions weaponized against them. And as part of our For the Love of Therapy series, we have a trauma therapist and mental health expert Dr. Anita Phillips at the mic to share her thoughts and findings on why embracing our emotions can be the key to living our most powerful life. Dr. Phillips extensively explores the soc

Oct 18, 2023 • 51:04

For the Love of Funny: It’s Funny Where Life Takes Us Sometimes: Anjelah Johnson-Reyes

For the Love of Funny: It’s Funny Where Life Takes Us Sometimes: Anjelah Johnson-Reyes

It’s so fun when we get to have guests back on the show that we love, but it’s especially fun when we get to catch up after we haven’t talked to them for awhile! This guest joined us in the very first year of our show in the For the Love of Laughter series, and she was fire then, and she’s fire now, 5 years later. We’re talking about the amazingly talented and hilarious Anjelah Johnson-Reyes, one of our favorite comedians in the whole wide world! You know her from her awesome Nail Salon

Oct 11, 2023 • 48:20

For the Love of Funny: Laughing Toward The Light: Comedian Kevin James Thornton Finds Himself at 50

For the Love of Funny: Laughing Toward The Light: Comedian Kevin James Thornton Finds Himself at 50

We’re keeping the laughs going as we continue our For the Love of Funny series–and this week we’ve got Kevin James Thornton, a comedian and entertainer, who, after spending his youth in a fundamentalist church in the 90’s, found a lot to laugh about. After moving to LA to make his way on stages at the Comedy Store and as an actor, Kevin wasn’t sure he was happy with how his life was going. After a move to Nashville and some serious contemplation about where to go next, the pandemic hit.

Oct 4, 2023 • 39:31

For the Love of Funny: Tom Papa Takes His Comedy Personally

For the Love of Funny: Tom Papa Takes His Comedy Personally

We’re knee-deep in our “For the Love of Funny” series, celebrating all things hilarious and witty. Jen’s been a long-time fan and amateur participant in the world of comedy, and our guest today explores one of her tip-top favorite genres of comedy. He's a master of observational humor, turning even the most mundane moments of life into pure comedy gold. Our guest, Tom Papa, is not just a comedian—he's a whirlwind of talent with a remarkable career spanning two decades. From his uproario

Sep 27, 2023 • 52:21

Sheltered Kids Who Grew Up To Be Funny: Trey + Katie Kennedy and Jake Triplett

Sheltered Kids Who Grew Up To Be Funny: Trey + Katie Kennedy and Jake Triplett

We’re back with more funny, and this week doesn’t disappoint. For those of you who grew up in the Bible Belt and maybe went to a conservative church (or even if you didn’t), perhaps you were a bit sheltered like our guests this week. Before racking up over 12 million combined followers on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and elsewhere, and hosting the hit podcast Correct Opinions, comedian Trey Kennedy came to fame on the short-form videosharing app Vine. His hilarious and pointed videos ran

Sep 20, 2023 • 55:54

For the Love of Funny:  Finding The Funny In Our Wins and Losses with R. Eric Thomas

For the Love of Funny: Finding The Funny In Our Wins and Losses with R. Eric Thomas

We’re back with more of our For the Love of Funny series, and this week we’re asking the question; is it possible to find humor not only in our lighter moments, but also in our vulnerable and difficult times? Our guest this week specializes in wit through the written word–and he has found that it is possible to find joy, while being heartfelt and hilarious at the same time. We’re welcoming R. Eric Thomas, back to the show! Whether he’s writing about politics, pop culture, or celebrity c

Sep 13, 2023 • 53:06

Yelled at By A Clown: How Nate Bargatze Found His Funny

Yelled at By A Clown: How Nate Bargatze Found His Funny

We’re looking for laughs and we found them in all the right places, and we’re sharing the hilarity with a brand new series called For the Love Of Funny. If you’ve hung out with us for any amount of time, you know that Jen is an avid devotee of all things funny. So we’ve rounded up some of her favorite funny people to not only bring us laughs, but to unpack the art and science of making people laugh. And for our very first episode, we couldn’t be more delighted to welcome “The Tennessee

Sep 6, 2023 • 49:12

Redefining Community & Friendships When Faced With The Unexpected ft. Emma Nadler

Redefining Community & Friendships When Faced With The Unexpected ft. Emma Nadler

As we close in on the end of our Community and Friendships series, we’re reflecting on the great conversations we’ve had toward building relationships in our lives. And this week’s convo puts the cherry on top as we discuss our friends as “chosen family” and the shape that our friendship and communities take when we are in a place where we need extra support. Our guest this week, Emma Nadler, is a therapist, author and speaker who is doing valuable work in helping people build deeper re

Aug 30, 2023 • 36:13

The Hardest Part of Friendship; When It’s Time To Say Goodbye ft. Erin Falconer

The Hardest Part of Friendship; When It’s Time To Say Goodbye ft. Erin Falconer

We’re back with our “For the Love of Community and Friendship Series, and this week, we delve into an area of friendship that all of us may face, but inevitably dread. It’s that moment when you know a friendship has run its course, or perhaps has become toxic, or you’ve just drifted apart–and you don’t know how to go forward. When life changes, when we change, and a friendship no longer serves us, how do we gracefully (and honestly) communicate about it? Our guest this week, who is here

Aug 23, 2023 • 54:33

Shannan Martin on Friendship: “It Starts with Hello”

Shannan Martin on Friendship: “It Starts with Hello”

When was the last time you reached out to one of your neighbors? Not just the people you feel comfortable with, but the ones who live near that you might not know beyond a “How are you?” in passing. As we continue our Community and Friendship series, we’re taking a look at why it enriches our lives (and the lives of our neighbors) to invest in the people around us. It doesn’t have to mean they all become our best friends, but a little curiosity, a little paying attention, and a little e

Aug 16, 2023 • 1:02:57

What Is Your Friendship Attachment Style? Ft. Dr. Marisa Franco

What Is Your Friendship Attachment Style? Ft. Dr. Marisa Franco

Hey friends, we are back with another episode in our For the Love of Community & Friendships, and we happen to have a true friend of the show returning to lay down some expertise about what it means to make and keep friends. We’re delighted to have Dr. Marisa Franco, (who also partnered with Jen to create a MeCourse on Friendship) who delves into the fascinating world of friendship attachment styles. Dr. Franco shares her extensive knowledge and insights on how our attachment styles

Aug 9, 2023 • 52:18

The Friendships That Save Us: Maggie Smith

The Friendships That Save Us: Maggie Smith

Genuine heart friendships have an incredible impact on our lives, including our health. Many recent studies tout the connection between health and the quality of your relationships, and that loneliness (not to be confused with being alone) can have a negative effect on our health–possibly even bigger than smoking or drinking or poor eating. So is it possible that our friends can actually help save us? Our guest today thinks so; writer and poet extraordinaire Maggie Smith recently went t

Aug 2, 2023 • 48:46

Finding Friends, Keeping Them and What To Do When You Break Up: Laura Tremaine

Finding Friends, Keeping Them and What To Do When You Break Up: Laura Tremaine

We’re in a brand new series; For the Love of Friends and Community. Friendship and community often serve as the cornerstone for many women's lives, providing a vital support system that nurtures connection, empathy, and mutual growth. In a recent survey from Psych Central, nearly half of most women report having fewer than 3 close friends, one third report having between 4-9 close friends, and 12% say they have no close friends at all. We know that friendship contributes to more satisfa

Jul 26, 2023 • 1:07:18

Demystifying Therapy with Lori Gottlieb

Demystifying Therapy with Lori Gottlieb

If you or anyone you know and love has ever had issues with their mental health, you know how painful it can be. As we conclude our “For the Love of Being Seen and Heard” series, we just want to remind you that there's no shame in admitting that you might need a little help. Maybe you’re feeling low, or more anxious than usual, or sad, scared, or just off—anything that feels different or keeps you from flourishing. Our guest today is here to encourage you to take agency over your mental

Jul 19, 2023 • 1:03:58

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Season Wrap-Up with Melinda French Gates

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Season Wrap-Up with Melinda French Gates

To close out season one of the Make Me Care About Podcast, Jen sits down with the co-chair of The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Melinda French Gates. In the spirit of helping us care about important, but sometimes little known facts, resources and phenomena, in this final episode, Melinda helps Jen wrap the season by discussing why she thinks we should care, and why she herself cares about the topics discussed throughout the first season. She also fills us in on what new initiative

Jul 14, 2023 • 18:43

Reimagining Our Relationships Toward Rebalancing The Domestic Workload with Eve Rodsky

Reimagining Our Relationships Toward Rebalancing The Domestic Workload with Eve Rodsky

We’re back with another installment of our Being Seen and Heard series, and we think this one is going to strike a nerve with many of you out there who are looking for a better, stronger, fairer, narrative when it comes to the balance of work in your home and toward raising children. Are you the one in your relationship who is handling the lion’s share of the care and feeding of your littles PLUS taking care of their pickups and dropoffs to school, daycare, sports, bathtimes, bedtimes,

Jul 12, 2023 • 1:11:16

Seeing and Loving Your Body (and Yourself) With No Shame: Jessamyn Stanley

Seeing and Loving Your Body (and Yourself) With No Shame: Jessamyn Stanley

We’re back with maybe the most foundational episode in our Being Seen and Heard series–and it’s all about how we see ourselves. Were you taught to love yourself when you were growing up? Many of us never grew up hearing anything about embodiment, and maybe we’ve treated our bodies as “the enemy” for most of our years. Maybe you grew up in a time where you didn’t see people that looked like you, or had your body type represented in magazines, on TV or in movies. Perhaps you even had sham

Jul 5, 2023 • 59:29

Inside the Fight for Better Gun Safety with MomsRising’s Gloria Pan

Inside the Fight for Better Gun Safety with MomsRising’s Gloria Pan

If you’ve listened long enough to our show and also follow Jen, you probably know that the conversations we invite come in many stripes—thoughtful, timely, fun, encouraging, helpful, educational and inclusive—plus, we’re not afraid to veer into some of the deeper stuff. Important stuff that is sometimes hard to wrap our heads around, but if we don’t, no change can occur. Whatever we think about gun rights, there are voices to consider who are doing hard work to create a future where kids can saf

Jun 28, 2023 • 45:10

The Black & White of Feminism with Rachel Cargle

The Black & White of Feminism with Rachel Cargle

It’s another week of our illuminating For the Love of Being Seen and Heard series. We’re talking to people that are doing the life-changing work of helping each other see and hear each other–to see and hear communities that we are not a part of, to see and hear voices that have been traditionally silenced or marginalized, or even to see and hear ourselves in honest and affirming ways. Our guest this week is a powerful advocate, but with a tender heart who works in so many spaces that ma

Jun 21, 2023 • 1:01:34

From The Church to The Pride Parade: Sara Cunningham with Free Mom Hugs

From The Church to The Pride Parade: Sara Cunningham with Free Mom Hugs

We’re back for more of our Being Seen and Heard series! In a time where it feels like we are struggling to really see and hear one another, there are some bright lights who make it their mission to help one another understand each other a little better. Our guest today, Sara Cunningham, the founder of FreeMomHugs.org, is one amazing example of what can happen when we really see people for who they are and begin to hear their stories. Sara was on the show right at the beginning of her jo

Jun 14, 2023 • 53:19

Seeing and Hearing the Disabled Community: Dr. Amy Kenny

Seeing and Hearing the Disabled Community: Dr. Amy Kenny

We’re back with our series For The Love of Being Seen and Heard. There is so much right now floating around in culture about what happens to us when we don’t feel like we’re either being seen or heard. For most of us, the longing to be understood by others is a core need. And for some groups or communities, including the disabled community, the task of being seen, heard and understood is more challenging, and we’ll hear why as we talk with disabled scholar-practitioner Dr. Amy Kenny. Dr

Jun 7, 2023 • 49:25

The Power of Rest & Retreat in Difficult Times: Katherine May

The Power of Rest & Retreat in Difficult Times: Katherine May

We’re at the tail end of our For the Love of Calming the Chaos series–and if you’ve gotten a chance to hear the whole series, we hope you’ve been able to take away some actionable items toward further peace in your life. Our last episode in the series is the perfect capper toward extending that ability to calm the chaos during the disruptive times of our lives, but also during the heartbreakingly difficult times. Our guest this week brings us the very comforting message that simply buck

May 31, 2023 • 56:16

The Emotional (and Sometimes Chaotic) Life of Teenagers with Dr. Lisa Damour

The Emotional (and Sometimes Chaotic) Life of Teenagers with Dr. Lisa Damour

Calling all parents of adolescents, or those of you who are about to have adolescents in your midst–if you’ve been feeling like you’re not sure what is normal in the emotional landscape of teenagers, we’re here to help. Face it—teenagers are literally in the epicenter of chaos–and because they live in our homes, sometimes it bleeds into our lives too. These kids are in developmental flux and there’s so much on them with school work, keeping up grades, extracurricular activities, friends

May 24, 2023 • 51:40

Inviting Calm into Your Life and Home: Emily P. Freeman and Myquillyn Smith

Inviting Calm into Your Life and Home: Emily P. Freeman and Myquillyn Smith

In our ongoing quest to squash the chaos in our lives, we’re talking to two experts (who are in fact sisters) who literally help us create space for our souls and our homes to breathe. Emily P. Freeman hosts the Do the Next Right Thing podcast where listeners flock to hear her soothing voice guide them with small ways to achieve mental clarity and avoid analysis paralysis when making decisions. Her sister, Myquillyn Smith, better known as The Nester, has the superpower of helping us cre

May 17, 2023 • 1:00:16

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Kerri Maher: “The Paris Bookseller”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Kerri Maher: “The Paris Bookseller”

It’s time for a good spring read–and what could be better than taking a literary trip to Paris in the spring? We are so excited to introduce you to Kerri Maher, the brilliant author of our latest book club pick, 'The Paris Bookseller.' Kerri is a rising star in the literary world, known for her captivating historical fiction that transports readers to different times and places. Kerri is the author of several critically acclaimed novels, including 'The Kennedy Debutante' and 'The Girl in White G

May 12, 2023 • 49:39

From Chaos to Healing: Stephanie Foo’s Experience with Complex PTSD

From Chaos to Healing: Stephanie Foo’s Experience with Complex PTSD

Sometimes, bad things happen (obvi, right?). Many times, we know what’s happening to us in the moment is awful and wrong. We know that it’s painful. But sometimes, we don’t know how bad those things were until that pain shows up again in our lives, maybe years later, in a completely different way. And when these seemingly bad things come up, our lives are thrown into a tailspin—creating chaos and unhappiness and we’re not even even sure why. So how do we begin to identify the source of the darkn

May 10, 2023 • 41:49

Drama Free: Untangling Chaotic Relationships with Nedra Tawwab

Drama Free: Untangling Chaotic Relationships with Nedra Tawwab

Welcome back, Chaos-breakers! We’re here trying to shake things up with another episode in our For the Love of Calming the Chaos–and this ones hitting us right where we live. Relationships; we’ve all got them, some we’re born into, others we choose, and others choose us. But what happens when certain relationships tax our energy, fill us with dread, and drain us of all ability to manage them? We have a great guide today to help us reframe relationships that have become dysfunctional, an

May 3, 2023 • 51:54

When Chaos Reveals Who You Really Are: Alexis Jones

When Chaos Reveals Who You Really Are: Alexis Jones

We’re kicking off a new series called For The Love of Calming the Chaos and we’re looking at all the ways chaos invades our lives, how to identify what’s causing it, and how we can forge a way to calmness (at least some of the time). It’s one thing to be busy, tackling the everyday things that need to happen, to feel like you are pulled in a million different directions. It’s another thing to be overwhelmed, where a sense of hopelessness creeps in that the storm of chaos that surrounds

Apr 26, 2023 • 1:03:16

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Suleika Jaouad's "Between Two Kingdoms"

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Suleika Jaouad's "Between Two Kingdoms"

Suleika Jaouad joins our show today to discuss her extraordinary book "Between Two Kingdoms." Suleika shares her story of receiving an early-in-life cancer diagnosis and the way that experience changed her relationship to her sense of community and hope. Suleika is a journalist, writer, speaker, and cancer survivor. She has written for The New York Times, Vogue, and NPR and her memoir “Between Two Kingdoms” details her journey of being treated and recovering from leukemia at the age of

Apr 21, 2023 • 44:06

Facing the Challenges of the Sandwich Generation with Jenny Hutt

Facing the Challenges of the Sandwich Generation with Jenny Hutt

Are you smack dab in the middle of the Sandwich Years? That precarious time where you’re squeezed between the demands of caring for aging parents and still supporting children? We’re here for you, and we’ve got a friend to the show who is living it out in real time, sharing how she’s getting through it all. Jenny Hutt was the host of the Just Jenny Show on Sirius XM and is now hosting her own daily podcast–all while dealing with the long-term care of her father (and his recent death) an

Apr 19, 2023 • 46:14

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Maternal Mortality

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Maternal Mortality

Another special bonus episode from the “Make Me Care About” podcast from the Gates Foundation with our own Jen Hatmaker talking with another amazing expert about things we may not know about and if we did–we would definitely care! When it goes well, giving birth can be a wonderful experience, but when it goes wrong, it can be deadly for mother and child alike. Too often, where you live, your access to quality care, and in some places–the color of your skin–determines whether or not you

Apr 14, 2023 • 30:09

Conscious Parenting Toward a Better Future For Us All with Dr. Shefali Tsabary

Conscious Parenting Toward a Better Future For Us All with Dr. Shefali Tsabary

In this episode of our For the Love of the Middle series, renowned clinical psychologist Dr. Shefali returns to the show to discuss her concept of conscious parenting. Those of us in the middle of life who may still be parenting kids at home, or adjusting to parenting adult children who have just launched out into the world–or in any season of the parenting journey, really–will find much to learn as we look back (and forward) at our parenting patterns. Dr. Shefali provides a step-by-step roadmap

Apr 12, 2023 • 52:37

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Syringes

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Syringes

Another special bonus episode from the “Make Me Care About” podcast from the Gates Foundation with our own Jen Hatmaker talking with another amazing expert about things we may not know or care about, but should! This episode gives us the privilege of speaking with Surabhi Rajaram, a Program Officer at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation who focuses on improving immunization delivery. We dive deep into the world of safe syringes, and why they are so important in saving lives. Surabhi Rajaram is a

Apr 7, 2023 • 18:05

Not A Burden: Michelle Boyaner on Showing Up for Aging Parents

Not A Burden: Michelle Boyaner on Showing Up for Aging Parents

Continuing in our For the Love of the Middle series, we’re having a conversation about something that may impact us as we hit those middle years (or sooner)–caring for our aging parents. With us to be our guide through this sometimes difficult journey is Michelle Boyaner, the director of the documentary film "It's Not a Burden: The Humor and Heartache of Raising Elderly Parents.” As a storyteller, Michelle felt compelled to talk about this particular stage of life, and decided to film h

Apr 5, 2023 • 35:23

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Poop!

[BONUS] Gates Foundation: Make Me Care About…Poop!

Hey there, For the Love Podcast community! We’re excited to share some bonus  episodes from a new podcast from the Gates Foundation, hosted by our very own Jen Hatmaker! It's all about getting to know the innovators who are out there changing the world and opening our minds to things that we might not otherwise think about much, like this first episode–poop! You can look forward to several of these bonus episodes popping into your feed that feature amazing conversations with experts who

Mar 30, 2023 • 30:15

Loneliness and Empty Nesting in the Middle Years with Dr. Jim Burns

Loneliness and Empty Nesting in the Middle Years with Dr. Jim Burns

We’re back in the middle of life with another installment of our “For the Love of the Middle” series. This episode marks the return of the amazing Dr. Jim Burns to the show. He is an author and founder of HomeWord, a non-profit organization aimed at helping families and individuals strengthen their relationships. Dr. Burns has over three decades of experience as a speaker and is the author of books such as “Life With Your Adult Children” and “Finding Joy in the Empty Nest”.  With his ty

Mar 29, 2023 • 45:27

Psychologist Mary Pipher on Flourishing as We Age

Psychologist Mary Pipher on Flourishing as We Age

It’s here! Our next series, “For the Love of the Middle” kicks off this week. Many of us are at that middle stage of life, and if we aren’t, we’re going to get there eventually. This series brings life, hope and humor to a period of life which can at times be surprising, confusing, but ultimately, steeped in the wisdom of years lived and the harder work of our 20’s and 30’s behind us. We’re ringing in the start of this series with an amazing first guest; Mary Pipher, a clinical psycholo

Mar 22, 2023 • 42:40

Getting Cliterate! Closing the Orgasm Gap Toward Female Sexual Fulfillment with Dr. Alexandra Solomon.

Getting Cliterate! Closing the Orgasm Gap Toward Female Sexual Fulfillment with Dr. Alexandra Solomon.

Every person is sexy just because they’re alive, according to this week’s guest in our For the Love of Sex Series; Dr. Alexandra Solomon. Jen & Dr. Solomon talk about how we can discover how to engage with our sexuality free from judgment or expectation. Dr. Alexandra Solomon is the author of bestselling books, “Loving Bravely” and “Taking Sexy Back” which both seek to empower women to reclaim their sexual journeys. As a highly acclaimed psychologist at Northwestern University, Dr.

Mar 15, 2023 • 56:36

[BOOK CLUB BONUS]  Emily Nagoski: “Come As You Are”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Emily Nagoski: “Come As You Are”

As part of Jen’s dedication to bringing her community sex education and sexual liberation, we’re opening up a book club episode to everyone. Today Jen’s talking to the original badass sex educator — Emily Nagoski. Emily created a sea change in the wider culture of how we talk about women’s sexuality and make space for the variety of experiences for women and sex. Since then, she’s become a celebrated speaker and the go-to expert on women’s sexuality. She recently updated “Come as You Ar

Mar 10, 2023 • 47:27

How Radical Self Acceptance Impacts Our Sex Lives with Brandon Kyle Goodman

How Radical Self Acceptance Impacts Our Sex Lives with Brandon Kyle Goodman

As our guest today says, “Everybody is here because somebody had sex.” Today we talk to Brandon Kyle Goodman about coming out from the shadows of your own desire. We’re looking at a new era of sex positivity in pop culture and in our lives. In this episode we explore themes from Brandon’s book: You Gotta Be You: How to Embrace This Messy Life and Step Into Who You Really Are. Listen as Jen and Brandon discuss: Sex in Culture, The Importance of Diverse Representation Subverting Gender No

Mar 8, 2023 • 55:04

Dismantling Toxic Masculinity Toward Better Sex with Sex Coach and Therapist Cam Fraser

Dismantling Toxic Masculinity Toward Better Sex with Sex Coach and Therapist Cam Fraser

For this episode of the Sex series, we’re getting some adult sex education we wished we had learned when we were younger. Specifically around messages young men received around sex, and how this now manifests with toxic masculinity which unfortunately, seeps into the bedroom. Our guest today helps us find ways we can change these sexual narratives. While not all of us are in sexual relationships with men, the reality is that the way in which men perceive their status in the bedroom affects their

Mar 1, 2023 • 1:01:30

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s “In My Own Words” with Mary Hartnett

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s “In My Own Words” with Mary Hartnett

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For January 2023 we’re excited to connect with an author who worked with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and penned a book featuring her many writings and thoughts titled My Own Words.. As one of Judge Ginsburg’s official biographers, Mary selected the writings and co-wrote the introductions to each chapt

Feb 24, 2023 • 50:35

Sex and Consent with Film & TV Intimacy Coordinator Jessica Steinrock

Sex and Consent with Film & TV Intimacy Coordinator Jessica Steinrock

As part of our For the Love of Sex series, we are talking to a Hollywood intimacy coordinator about the nitty gritty of consent, the emerging role of intimacy coordinators in Hollywood, and the future of creating consent culture on film and TV sets. There are ripple effects into the wider culture at large that happen when we prioritize safety and consent.A viral content creator on TikTok and CEO of her own company, Jessica Steinrock is helping change the way we understand consent on TV

Feb 22, 2023 • 44:50

Your Brain as a Sex Organ with Dipsea’s Gina Gutierrez

Your Brain as a Sex Organ with Dipsea’s Gina Gutierrez

“Good girls”, “naughty girls”, women with too tight skirts or too high heels. Women’s sexuality is being scrutinized and judged by forces outside of ourselves no matter what form it takes. Our guest today is Gina Gutierrez who seeks to empower women to stop listening to these outside voices and start listening to our inner eros by tuning in and turning on with audio erotica. We could not be more…excited. TedX speaker with over 1M views, and member of the Forbes Under 30 2020 list, Gina Gutierrez

Feb 15, 2023 • 56:12

Unraveling the Grip of Shame on Our Sex Lives with Matthias Roberts

Unraveling the Grip of Shame on Our Sex Lives with Matthias Roberts

Welcome to our first episode in our For the Love of Sex series! We’re excited to break open this topic and find ways to cultivate what sexual health means for each of us and lay down toxic perspectives surrounding sex in our lives. Today we’re talking about sexual shame and how that can show inside and outside the bedroom. Matthias Roberts is a psychotherapist, author and podcaster. He wrote a book on sexual shame called “Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms” and

Feb 8, 2023 • 1:05:22

[BONUS] Is It Possible We Might Mostly Agree on Gun Control? Diana Oestreich Weighs In

[BONUS] Is It Possible We Might Mostly Agree on Gun Control? Diana Oestreich Weighs In

So much is happening in real time in our world, obviously. And as a weekly podcast we can’t always speak immediately into the events that happen around us that need a bigger conversation. So we decided to take the time to look at those happenings, find some people who could walk us through the big events that have happened in the last 4 or 5 months and pop in with some conversations outside of our regular series for our premium subscribers. We’re talking about events that have us rethinking our

Feb 3, 2023 • 1:07:40

Who’s the Most Important Person In Your Life? Dr. Corey Yeager On Why That Matters

Who’s the Most Important Person In Your Life? Dr. Corey Yeager On Why That Matters

This episode of our What If Series asks; what if we looked inward to discover what makes us tick, who are the voices shaping us, and why are we choosing them? We also consider the question; who’s the most important person in your life? The answers most people give are what you’d expect, but our guest this week proposes that we dig deeper to find a different answer that will ultimately change how we approach life. Our guest, Dr. Corey Yeager, is a psychotherapist for the Detroit Pistons,

Feb 1, 2023 • 58:07

What If You Fail? Kendra Scott on What She’s Learned from Failure

What If You Fail? Kendra Scott on What She’s Learned from Failure

This episode of our What If Series asks what if you have big dreams and what if you didn’t let failure stop you from trying?Our guest is entrepreneur Kendra Scott, an intrepid businesswoman who built a billion dollar business while carrying her baby boy to sales meetings. She started with $500 and eventually created her dream, a 97% women run business that gives back to the community in meaningful ways. She breaks down the “why” and the “how” of building a jewelry empire and that asking

Jan 25, 2023 • 58:29

What if We Lived in a World Built by Women: Builder & Designer Extraordinaire Emily Pilloton-Lam

What if We Lived in a World Built by Women: Builder & Designer Extraordinaire Emily Pilloton-Lam

In this episode of the What If Series, we are asking some big questions around using your experience and skills to start something completely new or get imaginative on how you can positively affect your community with what you already have. What do you bring to the table with the whole totality of your experience that could be a force of good for your community or for the people around you? Our guest is leader and teacher Emily Pillton-Lam, an inspiring thinker and author of several books and cr

Jan 18, 2023 • 50:31

Regret: Our Most Misunderstood Emotion and a Gift to Move Us Forward with Daniel H. Pink

Regret: Our Most Misunderstood Emotion and a Gift to Move Us Forward with Daniel H. Pink

We’re knee deep in our What If Series and we’re bringing a twist to the conversation. This powerful interview is a note-taking worthy one; a powerful conversation on one of the most misunderstood emotions we have as humans: regrets. How can we harness our regrets toward forward momentum instead of drowning in them?Our guest is writer and researcher Daniel H. Pink, a fascinating thinker and author of several books–five of them New York Times bestselling works. His latest book is The Powe

Jan 11, 2023 • 49:45

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Maggie O’Farrell: “Hamnet”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Maggie O’Farrell: “Hamnet”

As tons of us in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club can agree, a good book is a bit of a refuge at any time of the year, but especially in the swirl of the holidays. It's just stealing away minutes for our mind to not be thinking about planning and gifting and gatherings and shopping and cooking–not to mention expectations and the pressure to reinvent ourselves in the New Year. But getting to bury our nose in a book or even playing an audiobook has a way of transporting us to a different place

Jan 6, 2023 • 46:27

Jenna Kutcher on Taking Your Dreams Off the Shelf and Embracing the “What Ifs”

Jenna Kutcher on Taking Your Dreams Off the Shelf and Embracing the “What Ifs”

It’s our first episode of the new year and we’re kicking it off with a brand new series as well. Jen’s always been fascinated by people who take risks, reinvent themselves, or chase a dream that might seem lofty or impossible. What’s the secret sauce to putting our dreams into action, and “what if” we actually get to that thing we always wanted to do in life? To start our series off in a powerful way, we’ve got a guest who has lived out her “what If” moment in the face of fear, trepidat

Jan 4, 2023 • 52:11

Going Solo, Finding Yourself, and Keeping Hope Alive: Jen’s Thoughts on 2022

Going Solo, Finding Yourself, and Keeping Hope Alive: Jen’s Thoughts on 2022

It’s our anticipated annual solo episode where we get to spend time with Jen reflecting on the year and the changes that have occurred in her life and our collective lives. And whew, have Things™ happened! We are still in the cyclone of massive change that launched out of 2020. Jen recently entered an empty nest phase this year and began a new relationship (an LDR relationship to boot) for the first time in years. She opens up about her relationship with Tyler in a completely new way an

Dec 28, 2022 • 45:49

Finding Our Rhythms In Changing Seasons: Barbara Brown Taylor Prays Us Into 2023

Finding Our Rhythms In Changing Seasons: Barbara Brown Taylor Prays Us Into 2023

It’s the benediction episode in our “Ending the Year with a Bang” series and what a well of wisdom we have for you. The Dalia Lama of the Christian faith who resides in and walks the trails of beautiful rural Georgia–a For the Love favorite—Barbara Brown Taylor, shares her priceless insights with us. She and Jen talk blueberry pies, retired racehorses who get a second chance at life in her backyard, and making room for friendships when the world wants us, above all else, to be productive. She sh

Dec 21, 2022 • 37:44

You Are Not Crazy: Making Sense of Our Behaviors with Britt Frank

You Are Not Crazy: Making Sense of Our Behaviors with Britt Frank

***Content Warning: This episode mentions suicide***DescriptionIt’s the second episode in our “Ending the Year with a Bang” series and we are leaning in hard as to how to stop spinning out and find a way forward or sideways or any direction really–we just don’t want to be stuck. We are getting into the nooks and crannies of how our brains work and how “micro-yeses” are powerful medicine for our psyches. If you are or ever have been in a place of feeling stuck or maybe even plastered to

Dec 14, 2022 • 51:58

Jen Hatmaker’s “Feed These People”

Jen Hatmaker’s “Feed These People”

Ask and you shall receive, folks. For years, Jen’s followers have begged for a cookbook and quite literally willed it into existence, and now it’s here in all its glory! For our November book club episode, Jen is joined by OG book club member Denise Gruzensky, who’s been cooking her way through Feed These People and is ready to grill Jen (no pun intended) on her early influences, including; cooking with kids interrupting you every two seconds, what to do when your loved ones can’t eat m

Dec 9, 2022 • 55:31

Getting Honest with Ourselves About Money: The Financial Diet’s Chelsea Fagan

Getting Honest with Ourselves About Money: The Financial Diet’s Chelsea Fagan

It’s the first episode in our “Ending the Year with a Bang” series, and we’re bolting headlong into everyone’s favorite topic (especially after week upon week of holiday spending)--finances! Maybe your finances don’t have you ending 2022 with a bang—it has been challenging and hard on the financial front for a lot of us–everything from post pandemic shifts to rising inflation to rising interest rates; things might seem a little gloomy on the financial horizon. But as Jen herself has lea

Dec 7, 2022 • 46:39

An Untraditional Christmas Podcast with American Idol Alumni Melinda Doolittle

An Untraditional Christmas Podcast with American Idol Alumni Melinda Doolittle

For the final episode of our Untraditional Traditions series, Jen’s good friend, American Idol alumni Melinda Doolittle, is with us to have an enlightening chat with Jen, which, as Jen readily admits, is 90% not about Christmas at all—and since we’re being untraditional this year, we’re here for it! Jen gets Melinda to spill all the behind the scenes scoop on what it was like to come through the American Idol machine, including how it felt to be the oldest contestant for her season (at the ripe

Nov 30, 2022 • 1:06:34

Retooling Our Holiday Gatherings for More Meaning and Less Stress: Priya Parker

Retooling Our Holiday Gatherings for More Meaning and Less Stress: Priya Parker

We’re back with another installment of our Untraditional Traditions series and continuing to celebrate the best of the season with different perspectives on how to change things up toward augmenting old traditions, creating new ones, or letting go of those that no longer serve us. Perhaps you’re thinking–how do I even begin to shift long held traditions—especially around holiday gatherings? Or maybe you’ve never been the “gather-er,” but you want to step your toe into those waters? We’v

Nov 23, 2022 • 1:02:38

[BONUS] Jen's Favorite Things - 6th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

[BONUS] Jen's Favorite Things - 6th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Another year, another holiday, and another special bonus episode of our podcast featuring our 6th Annual Jen's Favorite Things Gift Guide. If you're just now realizing that we've got about a month before Christmas, Jen and team are here to help! In this episode, Jen will guide us to some of the most practical, fun and beautiful gifts this year—along with all kinds of deals, just for you, our faithful listeners. And as we've done in past years, Jen has selected products she loves from bu

Nov 21, 2022 • 48:10

Maybe It’s Time for A Calm Christmas This Year? Beth Kempton Shows Us How

Maybe It’s Time for A Calm Christmas This Year? Beth Kempton Shows Us How

We’re in the midpoint of our Untraditional Traditions series, and we want to ask all of you listeners to consider something; what kind of Christmas do you want or need this year? Maybe it’s a riotous, celebratory Christmas with tons of gatherings and activities, a frenzy of lights and shopping and cooking and more. But perhaps some of us might be feeling a bit tethered to the way we’ve always done it—and the notion of a calm Christmas sounds nothing short of divine (and kudos to you all

Nov 16, 2022 • 58:22

Creating and Recreating Holiday Traditions with Brian Earl from “The Christmas Past Podcast”

Creating and Recreating Holiday Traditions with Brian Earl from “The Christmas Past Podcast”

Let’s get into the nitty gritty of our holiday traditions—real tree or a fake tree? Love egg nog or hate it? Decorating to the hilt or like to keep it minimalist? In this kickoff episode of our Untraditional Traditions series, we’re doing a deep dive into some of the traditions many of us may observe at the holidays, and a few we might want to try! Like, how many of you put up your Christmas tree at Halloween and take it down on Valentine’s Day? Well, our guest this week does and he jus

Nov 9, 2022 • 49:49

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Alexandra Andrews’ “Who Is Maud Dixon?”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Alexandra Andrews’ “Who Is Maud Dixon?”

We’re celebrating fall in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club (and for those of you who live in the deep south like Jen, our sympathies for the fall leaves you won’t see). Whether it’s actual fall or the idea of fall that gives you that cozy-up-with-a-blanket-in-your-favorite-chair-with-a-good-book feeling, we’re here for it. And we’ve got just the book for your fall reading–our book of the month is none other than Who Is Maud Dixon? by Alexandra Andrews. Alexandra is a journalist, an editor, an

Nov 4, 2022 • 33:00

Food Fight! Jen’s Mom and Sibs Reveal the Family Food Secrets

Food Fight! Jen’s Mom and Sibs Reveal the Family Food Secrets

As we wrap up our food series and celebrate of the release of Jen’s very first cookbook, we have another first right here in this Feeding These People Food series: Jen’s mom, her brother, and one of her sisters give us all the dish on the history of food in the King family in their very first appearance together on For the Love, for the last episode of this series! Jana, Drew, Cortney, and Jen weigh in on the good, bad and ugly of their family meals growing up, their favorite around the table me

Nov 2, 2022 • 1:03:32

Wine, Food, and Diversity with Noel Burgess

Wine, Food, and Diversity with Noel Burgess

It’s another episode of our cozy fall series; For the Love of Feeding These People. How could we talk about food without talking about one of the things that pairs with it best. Yes, we’re talking wine on this week’s show, and we’ve got a knowledgeable, smart and decidedly different wine expert joining Jen to talk through food’s most delightful partner. Noel Burgess is a wine writer and influencer who lives in wine country in Northern California. For those of you that love wine, and eve

Oct 26, 2022 • 59:30

Getting Spicy with Instagram Foodie Phenom Tieghan Gerard of Half Baked Harvest

Getting Spicy with Instagram Foodie Phenom Tieghan Gerard of Half Baked Harvest

Things are getting even more delicious as we continue with the “Feeding These People” series here on the For The Love Podcast, as we celebrate the launch of Jen’s dream project - her very first cookbook! And like we need an excuse to talk about food (we don’t) so pardon us as we revel in all the foodie-loving goodness our guest this week brings us through her oh-so-delectable, highly followed Instagram channel. We’ve got Half Baked Harvest’s Tieghan Gerard with us this week and we couldn’t be mo

Oct 19, 2022 • 43:49

[BONUS] The Power of Our Vote In Bettering the World: Beto O’Rourke

[BONUS] The Power of Our Vote In Bettering the World: Beto O’Rourke

Coming in hot with a sneak peek of the premium podcast content! We’re tackling some tough social issues with these exclusive bonus episodes in the hope of having conversations that will be enlightening and sobering, but also encouraging. Our mission in these conversations is to advance respectful dialogue around hard issues, while looking toward how we can all build a world that we want to hand down to the next generations. And so continuing in this vein, we wanted to get a politicians'

Oct 14, 2022 • 52:40

The Making of “Feed These People”: Jen’s Cookbook Stylists Tell It All

The Making of “Feed These People”: Jen’s Cookbook Stylists Tell It All

It’s time to get into a topic for a brand new series that is near and dear to our hearts—food. We love to eat it, we love to take pictures of it, we love to cook it (well, some of us do). This brand new series, For the Love of Feeding These People, coincides with the release of Jen’s brand new cookbook; “Feed These People,” but lest you think this is one long discussion about Jen’s book, think again. We’re bringing in other food creators whose Instagrams we follow religiously for their

Oct 12, 2022 • 1:03:31

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Gabriela Garcia’s "Of Women and Salt"

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Gabriela Garcia’s "Of Women and Salt"

This month, in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club, we’re celebrating the change of seasons. After enduring the sweltering heat this summer, nothing sounds more cozy than curling up with a good book, wearing your favorite oversized sweater and hunkering down in your favorite reading nook to welcome the falling leaves and falling temps (if you’re in the south, and still sweltering, like us, just bump that AC down a few clicks and go with us here).  And if you’re not a member of the club, you’re not going

Oct 7, 2022 • 44:01

Surprised by Love: Jen & Tyler On Where They Started and How It’s Going

Surprised by Love: Jen & Tyler On Where They Started and How It’s Going

It’s time to bring a close to our Dating, Sex, & Relationships series. And what better way to wrap it all than hearing a candid conversation from Jen and her person–Tyler Merritt. If you’ve listened to this series, you might have noticed that Jen has mentioned Tyler–a long time activist and author—a time or two, and that part of the reason for this series was to explore some new territory that Jen has only been exposed to over the last year or so as she tentatively put her toe in th

Oct 5, 2022 • 1:29:28

The Most Empowering Things You Need to Know About Sex & Your Body with Emily Nagoski

The Most Empowering Things You Need to Know About Sex & Your Body with Emily Nagoski

Producers note: Mature subject matter around sex is discussed in this episode.   As we’ve been learning in our Dating, Sex and Relationship series, there is no one right way to go about finding satisfaction in these areas of life. And the same is true for sex. You deserve to find joy and pleasure in your body and your sexuality just as you are, no matter what. There are so many things that culture has told us about our bodies and our sexuality that aren’t true. We’re going to walk through some

Sep 28, 2022 • 1:12:06

Beyond the Swipe: Mastering the Art of Online Dating with Dating Coach Perri Schneider

Beyond the Swipe: Mastering the Art of Online Dating with Dating Coach Perri Schneider

When we were putting this series together about love and sex and relationships, we knew we had  to have a guest that was well-versed in the ways of dating through online apps and digital services.  For those of us who may be seeking a partner for the first time, or maybe we’re back in the dating pool after leaving a relationship–we can all benefit from practical tips on how to navigate it all.  All the questions you could possibly think of related to online dating–we’ve got you covered, like: wh

Sep 21, 2022 • 55:38

When a Long-Term Relationship Ends, Where Do You Begin Again? Ft. Laura Stassi

When a Long-Term Relationship Ends, Where Do You Begin Again? Ft. Laura Stassi

Producer's Note: Mature subject matter around sex is discussed in this episode. We’re covering it all in our Relationships, Sex and Dating series, and this week’s episode has a twist. It’s not all flowers, heart emojis, and adrenaline when it comes to love and relationships–finding them, keeping them, growing them. Some of us have done all those things–possibly for many years–and yet for many reasons, find ourselves thrust back into the dating pool after divorce, or death, or when a lon

Sep 14, 2022 • 1:10:25

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Shauna Niequist’s “I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Shauna Niequist’s “I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For August 2022, Jen and the club read Shauna Niequist’s I Guess I Haven’t Learned That Yet. Now, no one in this community is new to Shauna, she has appeared on the show before and is Jen’s dear friend and tour mate.. But in case you are new to this community, Shauna is an author and speaker who authentically share

Sep 9, 2022 • 52:52

Singleness = Fullness, Wholeness and Being Open to Possibilities, with Shani Silver

Singleness = Fullness, Wholeness and Being Open to Possibilities, with Shani Silver

Our For the Love of Dating, Sex and Relationships series continues, and lest you think we’re solidly in the camp of “all people must be paired up,” let us assure you we’re firmly on the side of choosing whatever state of being (attached or not) best fits your life. We’re here, in this episode, to talk about the state and the choice of singleness. So maybe you’re unattached and you want to find the love of your life. Perhaps you’re getting pressure from friends and family as to why you r

Sep 7, 2022 • 56:36

Matchmaking for Love in the Modern Age with Joseph Dixon and Paris Denise

Matchmaking for Love in the Modern Age with Joseph Dixon and Paris Denise

DescriptionWe’re bringing you all the goods with our For the Love of Dating, Sex and Relationships series. So if you’ve ever tried dating as a fully grown adult, you might have a few feelings about it. Maybe you’ve been swiping and swiping and swiping (and if this makes no sense to you, it’s okay–you’ll know what it means by the end of this series) and you’re just not connecting with anyone who sets your world on fire. It can really be the wild west out there in the digital dating world

Aug 31, 2022 • 56:54

The Terror of Being Known Again after Divorce with Cameron Esposito

The Terror of Being Known Again after Divorce with Cameron Esposito

One aspect of dating after a breakup or divorce is the terrifying ordeal of being known again. Whether it’s because you can’t imagine opening yourself back up to someone in complete vulnerability or maybe you can’t fathom anyone having enough time to plumb the depths of your idiosyncrasies—I mean, who is ever going to take the time to learn your quirks and help you celebrate them in all their unapologetic glory, again? And how are you going to ever forgive the person who disappointed yo

Aug 24, 2022 • 1:06:37

Unraveling The Source of Our Sexual Shame: Jay Stringer Deconstructs Purity Culture

Unraveling The Source of Our Sexual Shame: Jay Stringer Deconstructs Purity Culture

We’re starting a new series that is going to be fire–it’s For the Love of Dating, Sex and Relationships. We’re going to cover a lot of territory over the life of this series–and with this episode we’re going to start with a question; what was it that you learned about sex during the most formative years of your life? Because whether you realize it or not, this can greatly shape how you approach sex as an adult. Maybe you’ve been unraveling what it is you think about sex, how you think a

Aug 17, 2022 • 1:16:25

Letters From Me Camp Week 4: Packing Up, Heading Home and Reflections on The Journey

Letters From Me Camp Week 4: Packing Up, Heading Home and Reflections on The Journey

We’ve reached the end friends, sadly Me Camp 2022 is over for the summer. And just like real camp, coming back home is wonderful and bittersweet at the same time. Making new friends, trying new things and getting outside the everyday routine is the magic of camp and Jen reflects on her time in Aspen to her last days in Grand Marais with gratefulness to be able to take this kind of time for herself (and to invite others into the fold, turning MeCamp into WeCamp!). Jen shares how MeCamp b

Aug 10, 2022 • 43:12

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sarah Blake’s “The Guest Book”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sarah Blake’s “The Guest Book”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For July 2022, Jen and the club read Sarah Blake’s The Guest Book. Sarah is the author of several books including a book of poetry, the New York Times bestseller The Postmistress, and our book this month, The Guest Book. The Guest Book was a New York Times bestseller, an Amazon Best Book of 2019, and found it’s spot at #1 o

Aug 5, 2022 • 52:05

Letters From Me Camp 2022 Week 3: Daughters & Friends Bring More We Camp to Grand Marais

Letters From Me Camp 2022 Week 3: Daughters & Friends Bring More We Camp to Grand Marais

DescriptionWith MeCamp on the tail end of it’s 2022 tenure, Jen is still traversing the wilds of Minnesota, trespassing on neighboring roofs to read her book, and bring her beloveds along on the ride with her. So as we enter week 3, Jen’s best girlfriends arrive for 4 days, followed by a visit from our favorite Hatmaker sisters, Remy and Sydney. Jen also gives her takeaways on the value of carving out this kind of time in your life–whether it’s a few days in a tent a couple of miles fro

Aug 3, 2022 • 35:51

Letters from Me Camp Week 2: Me Camp Turns to We Camp with Tyler Merritt in MN

Letters from Me Camp Week 2: Me Camp Turns to We Camp with Tyler Merritt in MN

This year’s Me Camp is in full swing, community. We have traveled from Austin to Aspen, and now up, up, up to the Northwoods of Minnesota, where we find ourselves in Grand Marais. Nestled on the shores of Lake Superior, this teeny tiny town was home to Jen for 3 weeks. And she is doing it all. Eating a plethora of fried fish salads, skipping rocks in the bay, potentially trespassing to sit on a picturesque roof and read her book and drink her wine. BONUS: Jen is joined by none other tha

Jul 27, 2022 • 28:16

Letters from Me Camp 2022: Week 1 in Aspen & Tips for Solo Travel (I Spy Katie Couric!)

Letters from Me Camp 2022: Week 1 in Aspen & Tips for Solo Travel (I Spy Katie Couric!)

You guys, it’s time again for us to load up the suitcases, grab the comfy shoes, and head on out to Me Camp 2022.  What is MeCamp you say? Jen took an extended solo trip to Maine last year after a really tough season. What she thought might be lonely and maybe a bit TOO reflective became something so rejuvenating and powerful in her life, she couldn’t keep it to herself and began sharing her experiences online with her community. So this year, she decided to mix it up and do some more solo trave

Jul 20, 2022 • 36:07

For the Love of Conversations: Jen & Kelly on The Men They Love

For the Love of Conversations: Jen & Kelly on The Men They Love

The past few weeks have been so nurturing to the collective soul of this podcast community. We have gotten together with a friend, and caught up on all that matters in our worlds (as friends do) and talked through the changes we’ve both faced recently, on finding and keeping friendship alive at this season in our lives, and how we’ve each evolved in our own beliefs. And we’re always a little sad to say goodbye to friends, but we know that the bonds we’ve built here will keep us going ti

Jul 12, 2022 • 57:09

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Beliefs, Truth, and the Things We Hold Dear

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Beliefs, Truth, and the Things We Hold Dear

Welcome back to another episode of our For the Love of Conversations series with one of Jen’s best loved friends, author, speaker and podcaster Kelly Corrigan. Both Jen and Kelly have seen strong beliefs give way to new beliefs, and old beliefs be tested by time and experience. It's a wonder to learn as you move through the world, even if those lessons are hard won and hands down, a ton of them are. It's a beautiful and redemptive thing to take a step back and level the playing field yo

Jul 5, 2022 • 51:50

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Friendship Through the Years

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Friendship Through the Years

Friendship is one of those gifts in life we can run to when it feels like the rest of the world just doesn’t get us. On a day when life hasn’t been cooperating exactly as you’d hoped, who hasn’t called that friend we can vent to, cry to, laugh with, and compare notes with? And the longer a friendship goes, the deeper the bond seems to be. But some of us are in spaces in our lives where we’ve had to follow another dream and leave the proximity of our friends. And the work of friendship t

Jun 28, 2022 • 53:11

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Hard and Beautiful Change

For the Love of Conversations: Jen and Kelly on Hard and Beautiful Change

You know there really isn’t much that’s more comforting than sitting down with one of your friends and talking openly because you know they just get you. They have seen you grow and change and evolve and become who you are today–and they don’t try to stand in the way of that change however hard it may be for them, or for you. These conversations with friends are life-giving. And with that in mind, we thought it might be fun to have a series of conversations here in our podcast community

Jun 21, 2022 • 50:48

Relax–It’s Just Food! Finding the Fun in Cooking with Teri Turner

Relax–It’s Just Food! Finding the Fun in Cooking with Teri Turner

As we come to the end of our Favorite Pastimes series, we hope you are filling your summer with your favorite activities —and maybe some new ones we’ve talked about here! Our series wouldn’t be complete without a conversation about one universal pastime that is approached with either love or loathing—cooking!  Perhaps cooking has become nothing but drudgery for you and those ungrateful kids who eye your culinary masterpieces with disdain have made you turn to slinging out Lunchables and

Jun 14, 2022 • 41:27

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Abi Dare’s “The Girl With The Louding Voice”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Abi Dare’s “The Girl With The Louding Voice”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For May 2022, Jen and the club read Abi Dare’s The Girl With The Louding Voice. Abi is originally from Lagos, Nigeria and went on to study law in the UK at the University of Wolverhampton and eventually earned her MA in Creative Writing at Birkbeck, University of London. Not only is she an incredible writer, she is

Jun 10, 2022 • 53:57

Travel the World on a Ramen Budget, ft. “The Points Guy” Brian Kelly

Travel the World on a Ramen Budget, ft. “The Points Guy” Brian Kelly

Time to grab your passport and packing cubes! The world’s back open for travel—and if you’ve tried to book a trip recently, you know that, hello, the prices are a smidge higher than they used to be. But with a little planning and a lot of advice from The Points Guy, you can rack up the credit card points that’ll get you to unforgettable destinations around the world for a fraction of the price! Brian Kelly, The Points Guy himself, joins Jen to share how he turned his love of a good deal

Jun 7, 2022 • 54:47

Creating Magic from our Favorite Pastimes: “PieLadyBooks” Stephanie Hockersmith

Creating Magic from our Favorite Pastimes: “PieLadyBooks” Stephanie Hockersmith

When it comes to hobbies and pastimes, the inspiration can be drawn from anywhere. Maybe it was something you did during the summer as a kid, or it was an activity you loved to do with your mom in her freetime. No matter where your inspiration stems from, perhaps you’ve returned to it today and it brings you peace, comfort and even healing. Our guest this week was diagnosed 15 years ago with Celiac Disease, with neurological implications that put her in a wheelchair. Looking for solace

May 31, 2022 • 41:10

Nurture Your Garden, Nurture Yourself with “Garden Marcus” Bridgewater

Nurture Your Garden, Nurture Yourself with “Garden Marcus” Bridgewater

Aren’t we all inspired by people who have taken their favorite hobby, or their little side hustle, or their craft–and they invested in it, they loved it so much that it became their main thing? In this series, we’ve introduced a variety of pastimes we all can enjoy this summer–the kinds of things that give us that break from the daily grind–but in doing so, we’re also talking to folks who took the leap to make their pastime their career. And in this episode, we’re giving a nod to a past

May 24, 2022 • 1:00:30

Audacity to Believe In Yourself and Your Art with Jaime Kurowski

Audacity to Believe In Yourself and Your Art with Jaime Kurowski

As we continue on in our Favorite Pastime series, we’re reveling in all the opportunities that are hiding in plain sight–through the beloved activities, we cherish in our spare time. No spare time, you say? We understand—and that’s where our series has a delightful twist–these folks took their passions and hobbies and turned them from hobbies into full-fledged careers. So you think those toaster cozies you like to knit can’t be a full time gig? Think again–we’ve got creators, makers and

May 17, 2022 • 53:35

Not Outdoorsy, But Love Being Outside? REI’s Ben Steele Helps Us Find Our Outdoor Zen

Not Outdoorsy, But Love Being Outside? REI’s Ben Steele Helps Us Find Our Outdoor Zen

We’re back with another episode in our For the Love of Favorite Pastimes series, and this week, we’re talking about the great outdoors. And in case you think this topic is just for those of you who find their greatest joy loading up piles of gear to go hiking for 20 miles every weekend, or for all the rabid runners, cyclists, swimmers, campers, and the rest of you that make the other half of us real, real tired––there’s something for all of us who may like being outside, even those who aren’t ne

May 10, 2022 • 50:48

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sarah Penner’s “The Lost Apothecary”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sarah Penner’s “The Lost Apothecary”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For April 2022, Jen and the club read Sarah Penner’s The Lost Apothecary. Sarah began writing seriously back in 2015 after attending a lecture by one of our favorite authors–Elizabeth Gilbert. Soon after that moment, Sarah enrolled in her first creative writing class, and y’all, how lucky are we that she did. Her b

May 6, 2022 • 46:36

Turning Junk into Treasure (and a Treasured Life) with the Junk Gypsies

Turning Junk into Treasure (and a Treasured Life) with the Junk Gypsies

What’s your favorite pastime (go with us here, we know that lots of us don’t even know the concept of having time for a pastime). Imagine being able to really spend time in your garden, instead of just hoping it will rain or the rabbits don’t eat your bounty. Think about being able to carve out some time to write–really giving some thought and intention to your journal or that spark of a story you’ve been thinking about for awhile. Taking time for what matters to us, aside from doing the things

May 3, 2022 • 1:04:54

Language that Transcends Differences–The Poetry of Faith ft. Pádraig Ó Tuama

Language that Transcends Differences–The Poetry of Faith ft. Pádraig Ó Tuama

We’re wrapping up our Faith Shakers series this week, and we hope you’ve found it as eye-opening and enlightening as we have to see what people of faith in non-traditional spaces have been doing to make the world a better, more thoughtful place. This episode takes us to yet another unique space where faith and art are being combined to great effect--and it’s through poetry. In case you’re having flashbacks to Shakespearean sonnets you had to study in high school, fear not. We’re going b

Apr 26, 2022 • 1:15:09

Finding Our Spiritual Homeland with Krista Tippett

Finding Our Spiritual Homeland with Krista Tippett

In the past, questioning the spiritual majority was unacceptable. Not only were people of faith expected to fall into line and just accept what was laid out by church leaders, but they were also expected to carry those beliefs throughout their entire lives–even when those tenets no longer aligned with their own values. And if they dropped them? Well, then they likely got dropped by their faith institutions. Fortunately for us all, there have been some quiet trail blazers who have been p

Apr 19, 2022 • 58:35

Is the Church Dead? A Millennial's Perspective on Religion with Casper ter Kuile

Is the Church Dead? A Millennial's Perspective on Religion with Casper ter Kuile

A dilemma that has gripped the hearts of traditional church leaders and their followers is the trend toward “non-affiliation–” those folks referred to as the “Nones” - who check “none” when asked if they affiliate with any religion or attend any church. Which begs the question–why? Why aren’t people attending church like they used to? And why are people outright leaving the church?  Are people still seeking and finding spiritual community somewhere out there?  Writer, speaker and co-fou

Apr 12, 2022 • 1:00:55

Social Media and Spirituality with Heather Thompson Day

Social Media and Spirituality with Heather Thompson Day

We’re back with another installment of our Faith Shakers series–talking to people who are doing work in the name of faith in “not so typical places,” using nontraditional ways to bring life and light to people's lives. One of the not so typical places people of faith are congregating more than ever is on social media. So many of us have a love/hate relationship with the medium. Sometimes it gives us the feeling of connection and community–especially during times where connection in pers

Apr 5, 2022 • 50:45

Can Faith Thrive Within Political Divides? Lisa Schultz from the US Senate’s Chaplain’s Office

Can Faith Thrive Within Political Divides? Lisa Schultz from the US Senate’s Chaplain’s Office

We’re not always comfortable with people who push us past our comfort zones, who ask hard questions, who bring us a different perspective, a different angle–but we get so much from there. As we continue our Faith Shakers series, we’re talking to people who challenge unjust systems and are doing dynamic things in faith spaces and how those things are positively impacting the world. This week’s discussion takes place at a location that many would consider to be a hotbed of divisiveness–wh

Mar 29, 2022 • 58:57

Who Says God is a White Man? Finding Ourselves in the Divine with Dr. Christena Cleveland

Who Says God is a White Man? Finding Ourselves in the Divine with Dr. Christena Cleveland

We’re back with a fourth episode in this powerful series; For the Love of Faith Shakers. As many of uswho might have come from a Western evangelical Christian community, we were presented a God thathas a strong patriarchal presence. As we dig into the history of that, we learn that this image has beencrafted, held together and governed by men, as those in power tend to shape the deities as they want to see them. However, history–the same written and oral history that gives us the basis

Mar 22, 2022 • 1:03:02

Reconnecting to Our Faith Through Art: Morgan Harper Nichols

Reconnecting to Our Faith Through Art: Morgan Harper Nichols

Through our entire Faith Shakers series, we’ve been finding the places where faith is vibrant and alive–both outside the church and inside it–and who has been creating safe spaces for faith to be expressed; no matter where you fall on the religious spectrum. For centuries, art has been an integral part of the religious tradition. Some of the most breathtaking art was commissioned by leaders of the church and still adorns the walls, architecture, windows and gardens in some of the most f

Mar 15, 2022 • 54:59

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Brit Bennett’s “The Vanishing Half”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Brit Bennett’s “The Vanishing Half”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For February 2022, Jen and the club read Brit Bennett’s The Vanishing Half. Brit is a novelist and essayist that has been featured in The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Paris Review, and Jezebel. Her first novel, The Mothers, was a finalist for both the NBCC John Leonard First Novel Prize and the Robert W. Bin

Mar 11, 2022 • 41:47

Bringing Prayer to Her People: Cole Arthur Riley’s Black Liturgies

Bringing Prayer to Her People: Cole Arthur Riley’s Black Liturgies

We’re back with more of our Faith Shakers series–with another person of faith who’s inhabiting something different than what we normally expect or see in faith spaces. When it comes to better understanding the church and how faith exists outside its walls, we must take into consideration voices that haven’t been largely represented in many church traditions. Communities of color were often not considered in the long history of  liturgy in the church–and if you’re not familiar with what liturgy i

Mar 8, 2022 • 47:35

[BONUS] Author of “Educated” Tara Westover: A Different Life Is Possible

[BONUS] Author of “Educated” Tara Westover: A Different Life Is Possible

Happy unscheduled podcast goodness day to you all—we’ve got an amazing bonus episode dropping in just for you! This week we are delighted to welcome author Tara Westover to the show. Her book Educated is on the tip- top of our list for “must-read” books (and was on the New York Times Bestseller list for over 135 weeks in addition to being applauded and celebrated by the New Yorker, O, The Oprah Magazine, and the Obamas.  Tara paints a riveting picture of how she grew up in a strict religious sur

Mar 4, 2022 • 42:37

Growing Up Evangelical and Gay with Jonathan Merritt

Growing Up Evangelical and Gay with Jonathan Merritt

It’s an origin story we’ve heard time and time again; a young person trying to figure out who they are as they grow up—in the context of their families, their religious beliefs, and their sexuality. And when all of those areas conflate, there can be fallout and damage—especially when they discover how and who they choose to love isn’t embraced by their faith or family structures. Award winning journalist and writer Jonathan Merritt navigated this particular firestorm in his own life by

Mar 1, 2022 • 1:05:31

Elephant in the Room Part 8: Planning for Life after Death ft. Abby Schneiderman

Elephant in the Room Part 8: Planning for Life after Death ft. Abby Schneiderman

As we wrap up our Elephant in the Room series, there will be no awkward topics left in our wake. And this week, we’re putting the nail in that coffin (so to speak) and we’re talking about–yes, you guessed it– Death. It’s really hard to think about how to plan for your death when you’re too busy living, not to mention that we don’t even want to really contemplate our demise, but alas, none of us will escape it. And we’ve all heard the horror stories of people who leave this earth with no

Feb 22, 2022 • 49:42

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Christie Tate’s “Group”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Christie Tate’s “Group”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For January 2022, Jen and the club read Christie Tate’s Group. Christie is a well-known writer and essayist that has written for amazing publications including The New York Times, The Washington Post, McSweeney’s, and more. Her first novel, Group, was published in 2020 and was named as one of Reese’s Book Club pick

Feb 18, 2022 • 58:48

Elephants in the Room Part 7: Getting Real About Divorce with Jen, Kristen & Jamie

Elephants in the Room Part 7: Getting Real About Divorce with Jen, Kristen & Jamie

Get ready for some real and raw conversation with Jen and two of her most trusted friends about an experience they’ve all shared [which happens to be this week’s elephant in the room as well]. We’re talking about divorce. We’ve all heard the not-so-fun stat that at least half of all marriages in our country end up in divorce. No matter how it happens, who makes the choice, or however long the marriage lasted—it’s traumatizing. Like any elephant in the room, there’s a sense of failure, a sense of

Feb 15, 2022 • 1:05:46

Elephants in the Room Part 6: Accepting The Reality of Mental Health Issues And Their Impact with Jamie Tworkowski

Elephants in the Room Part 6: Accepting The Reality of Mental Health Issues And Their Impact with Jamie Tworkowski

In the tail-end of this series, we really acknowledge some of the bigger elephants in the room we all face each and every day. And this week’s elephant is a big one that likely we’ve all experienced first hand or with those we love. Mental health disorders have been around for as long as we’ve been walking the planet, but bringing them out of the dark has been a fairly recent phenomenon. Even as recently as 3 or 4 decades ago, depression and anxiety were rarely diagnosed as clinical dis

Feb 8, 2022 • 51:30

Elephants in the Room Part 5:  Undoing the Stigma of Menopause with Cheryl Bridges Johns

Elephants in the Room Part 5:  Undoing the Stigma of Menopause with Cheryl Bridges Johns

Have you ever heard anyone say they are looking forward to menopause? A rare occurrence, to be sure, as our culture seems obsessed with keeping women “young” on all levels. 50 is the new 30, right? And while women inevitably age, the maturation of women has not classically been held in high esteem in our culture. So no wonder we view the onset of menopause with fear and trepidation; a stark reminder that we’re not what we once were. And as most elephants in the room, this natural transi

Feb 1, 2022 • 48:53

Elephants in the Room Part 4: Facing the Reality of White Privilege and Systemic Racism with Reggie Dabbs & John Driver

Elephants in the Room Part 4: Facing the Reality of White Privilege and Systemic Racism with Reggie Dabbs & John Driver

Elephants in the room are historically hard to acknowledge and easy to ignore. And though it seems like the conversation about racial divides in our country is getting more attention than it ever has, there are still some of us that are unable to see that there’s a problem in their own ranks. Sometimes, it’s not even that we don’t recognize it looking from the outside in–but a lack of being involved toward change or acknowledging the concept that the white community has historically had

Jan 25, 2022 • 1:03:34

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's “Americanah”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's “Americanah”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For December 2021, Jen and the club read Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s “Americanah.” Chimamanda is an acclaimed Nigerian writer that takes the experiences she has lived through and seen occur to guide her writing and share new thoughts and ideas with her readers. She published Americanah in 2013 and the novel became a

Jan 21, 2022 • 53:31

Elephants in the Room Part 3 - Addressing Broken Sexual Behavior with Jay Stringer

Elephants in the Room Part 3 - Addressing Broken Sexual Behavior with Jay Stringer

We’re back with another elephant in the room–one that likely has affected us all at one time or another either personally or within our circle of friends, family, associates. Society’s struggle with sexual brokenness–whether that’s pornagraphy use, paying for sex, or engaging in infidelity–is a real issue, and it impacts us in many ways, sometimes to the point of being devastating. But it’s time to bring this problem out of the dark and begin to look at the roots of where sexual brokenn

Jan 18, 2022 • 1:06:39

Elephants in the Room Part 2: Responding to LGBTQ+ Friends & Loved Ones with Celeste Lecesne 

Elephants in the Room Part 2: Responding to LGBTQ+ Friends & Loved Ones with Celeste Lecesne 

When it comes to addressing the elephant in the room, many of us really want to shy away and say “what elephant?” and whisk whatever the pesky and uncomfortable topic is under the rug. But, in the grand scheme of this life, addressing hard topics and working through difficult conversations is so important as we try to move forward and create a brighter and more accepting world for all people. One elephant we’ve tackled many times here on For the Love (as gently as possible–no elephants

Jan 11, 2022 • 47:52

Elephants in the Room Part 1: Grief on Your Terms with Sal & Im

Elephants in the Room Part 1: Grief on Your Terms with Sal & Im

Hey community, it’s a new year and it’s time to get uncomfortable. We have all spent the last few weeks relaxing and indulging and prepping for what we hope is a good year. If your families or friend groups are anything like ours, maybe some hard topics popped up over the holidays. That aunt that can’t help talking about politics, or maybe passively aggressive grandmother’s racist comments caused a stir. Well instead of stuffing our faces full of another dinner roll and changing the top

Jan 4, 2022 • 56:14

Jen Speaks to Finding Life through a Year of Grief, Sorrow, and Unrelenting Joy 

Jen Speaks to Finding Life through a Year of Grief, Sorrow, and Unrelenting Joy 

Well, community, 2021 is about to close the curtain. So many of us had the highest of hopes after 2020. And for some, this year gave them exactly what they needed. For others, it was a year of sorrow and grief and hard days. But, here’s the thing, we all made it. We made it through the hard days and the tears and ups and downs. We lived. We learned. We grew closer to who we are meant to be in this life. And isn’t that something to celebrate? Join us this week as Jen divulges all that 20

Dec 28, 2021 • 50:56

Goodness Triumphs Through Good People: A Year-End Benediction from Bishop Michael Curry

Goodness Triumphs Through Good People: A Year-End Benediction from Bishop Michael Curry

2021 is winding down. For some of us it flew by, for others it was the longest year of our lives. We might have experienced pure love, we might have learned new things and explored new places, and perhaps we grew closer to becoming the people we are meant to be. But some of us grieved. We lost loved ones, and dreams we once had. We dealt with suffering and sadness. But you know what we all did together? We made it. We lived. We found life and joy and hope and sadness and love. And in that, we ha

Dec 21, 2021 • 47:15

Holiday Hilarity with Deck the Hallmark

Holiday Hilarity with Deck the Hallmark

During the busyness of the holiday season, when does one find time for comfort and joy? Between planning all the parties, baking all the cookies, and wrapping all the gifts, has it been a minute since you’ve been able to enjoy the festivity of the season? Well, if you’re like us over here at For the Love, you might have to find the time to squeeze in a quick injection of the holiday spirit by sitting down for a Hallmark Holiday movie! In 90 tight minutes, you can cry over the heartwarmi

Dec 14, 2021 • 59:05

[BONUS] Vanessa Lachey’s “Life from Scratch”

[BONUS] Vanessa Lachey’s “Life from Scratch”

It is the season of giving, friends, and what better gift could you get from us than a super special bonus episode of your favorite show? This cozy holiday bonus episode features TV host, model and actress, Vanessa Lachey! Vanessa just brought her first book to the world; Life From Scratch: Family Traditions That Start With You, and it’s chock full of fun and practical tips that we’re talking about on the show to make each season and the moments in them special and memorable. Jen and Va

Dec 10, 2021 • 36:42

Singing in the Holidays with Trisha Yearwood

Singing in the Holidays with Trisha Yearwood

Jingle those sleigh bells and break out the eggnog--Trisha Yearwood has arrived at the For the Love Podcast for our Comfort and Joy series!! If you’ve been here for any amount of time, you know that Jen Hatmaker is Trisha’s #1 fan. Women ruled the day for country music in the 90’s, and Trisha was among the queens. If you were coming of age in that era like Jen did (and even if you didn’t) it was hard to miss the great ladies of 90’s country (Shania, Martina, Wynonna, and more.) who exem

Dec 7, 2021 • 40:35

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] David Sedaris’s “The Best of Me”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] David Sedaris’s “The Best of Me”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For November 2021, Jen and the club read David Sedaris’s “The Best of Me.” When it comes to satire and witty personal narratives, no one does it better than David, so expect this discussion to be full of the same as well. His book, “The Best of Me” is a collection of essays detailing his life through adolescence an

Dec 3, 2021 • 42:43

Stress Free Holiday Hosting with Abby Turner

Stress Free Holiday Hosting with Abby Turner

Happy Holidays, friends! Welcome to the most magical time of year. It’s filled with fairy lights and Christmas cookies and good food and friends. It’s the epitome of comfort and joy—and that’s why we are thrilled to be kicking off our 2021 holiday series, For the Love of Comfort & Joy with you today. We have it all in this series, from cookbooks to Hallmark movies. We’re kicking it all off this week with conversation with a self taught expert in hosting and learning how to serve oth

Nov 30, 2021 • 48:18

YOUR Body Keeps the Score: Unwinding Trauma with Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk

YOUR Body Keeps the Score: Unwinding Trauma with Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk

As we come to a close on our For the Love of You series, we wanted to take some time to reflect on all that we have learned. We saw how food impacts our lives in more ways than just providing calories. We learned how self-care exists in all facets of life, from mental health and therapy to leaning on others during your journey to motherhood. And to wrap it all up, we wanted to take a look at what it means to be embodied and how to work with our bodies to overcome trauma and find peace and healin

Nov 23, 2021 • 1:00:18

YOU Restored: Healing from Trauma For Everyone with Jimanekia Eborn

YOU Restored: Healing from Trauma For Everyone with Jimanekia Eborn

When it comes to healing, the path is not linear. Whether you are are a survivor of sexual assault or have experienced trauma in your life, you are worthy to pursue wholeness and healing. It can be a hard road to find the right community to heal with, especially if you identify as part of a marginalized community. Prevalently, therapy and therapeutic services cater largely to one group, evidenced by the fact that approximately 86% of psychologists are white, and less than 2% of American

Nov 16, 2021 • 56:16

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Lucy Foley’s “The Guest List”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Lucy Foley’s “The Guest List”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For October 2021, Jen and the club read Lucy Foley’s The Guest List. Lucy Foley is a former fiction editor who used her passion for literature to become a master of who-dunnit mystery books. Her first book, The Book of Lost and Found, cemented her place as a modern mystery writer and since then there has been no turning bac

Nov 12, 2021 • 40:39

Joyful Eating for YOU and Those YOU Love with Antoni Porowski

Joyful Eating for YOU and Those YOU Love with Antoni Porowski

The For the Love of You series, is offering us so much when it comes to embracing self-care routines and finding new ways to love and appreciate all our bodies do for us on a daily basis. And guess what wonderful element of self-care we are tackling this week? FOOD. Not only does it nourish us and keep us functioning, but it can create community, connection, and love in our world. Our relationship with food is key in enabling us to find joy in caring for our bodies, and in turn allow us to love

Nov 9, 2021 • 52:03

Jen's Favorite Things - 5th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Jen's Favorite Things - 5th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way to the 2021 gift guide! This is the EARLIEST we have ever had the gift guide ready for you and that’s a good thing because... shipping in 2021. Am I right? We’re helping you get all your favorite people the most amazing gifts this holiday season.    A personal note from Jen: This is the 5th year I've curated my favorite things as a wonderful shopping list for you! (Psst... We’ve taken notes so you don’t have to! Head over to jenhatmaker.com for a

Nov 5, 2021 • 54:21

YOU are More Than Beauty with Lexie & Lindsay Kite

YOU are More Than Beauty with Lexie & Lindsay Kite

We’re keeping the good vibes about body positivity going this week, drafting off our amazing episode with Dr. Hillary McBride last week about embodiment and moving into a conversation that asks us to go deeper with questions like: How do you feel about your body? How are you describing your body? The answers tell us whether we’re looking at our bodies as an outsider, or if we’ve been hiding our bodies because of long held body shame and self-objectification. And that’s what this For the

Nov 2, 2021 • 58:02

The Power Within YOU with Latham Thomas

The Power Within YOU with Latham Thomas

Continuing in our For the Love of You series we are taking a look at all the ways that we care for ourselves. And this isn’t just about spa days, pedicures, and me-time (although, we are fans of those things too). We’re doing a deep dive into some soul-care, in addition to more conventional looks at mind care and body care. And this week’s episode addresses a really specific season of self-care for women as they journey into motherhood. Whether it’s your first or 5th time going through

Oct 26, 2021 • 55:46

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Brene Brown’s “Daring Greatly” ft. Kristen Howerton

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Brene Brown’s “Daring Greatly” ft. Kristen Howerton

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For September 2021, Jen and the club read Brene’ Brown’s Daring Greatly. Most of us know and love Brene and all her work, but just in case you’re new to her, here’s the rundown. Brene is a research professor at the University of Houston where she holds the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair. She is also a visiting professo

Oct 22, 2021 • 56:40

Your Body is YOU with Dr. Hillary McBride

Your Body is YOU with Dr. Hillary McBride

This series, For the Love of You, is allowing us to open a door to ourselves, encouraging us to show ourselves kindness and truly embrace how we can care for ourselves In a world that has told us, specifically women, that we should put ourselves last. And when it comes to our bodies, we’ve had a host of misinformation that tells us that our bodies are to be restricted and that we should disconnect from what our bodies need, because our needs will be at cross purposes with what our cultu

Oct 19, 2021 • 56:47

YOU and Food with Danielle Walker

YOU and Food with Danielle Walker

Hey listener—we’re glad you’re here. Because you listen to this show, we’re gonna take a guess that this podcast might be a little respite for you from the busy-ness of life. A place to find community and shared experiences. Some much needed YOU time. So, because we care about you, we at For the Love want to promote that time and take it to the next level with some ideas and thoughts about how to take better care of YOU (and not just with the time you steal away while driving or cleanin

Oct 12, 2021 • 58:35

Future Star of Broadway: The Lion King’s Vince Ermita

Future Star of Broadway: The Lion King’s Vince Ermita

When it comes to talking about the future and the bright stars we see ahead, that’s something we are always going to approve of here at For the Love. And we knew that in order to wrap-up our For the Love of Broadway series, we needed to talk to one of the up and coming stars of the stage. So as we get ready to close the curtains on this series, you’ll love hearing from the delightful Vince Ermita. Vince is just 11 years old and made his Broadway debut as Young Simba in The Lion King. I

Oct 5, 2021 • 28:23

The Lion King’s Brandon McCall on Fulfilling a Life-Long Dream

The Lion King’s Brandon McCall on Fulfilling a Life-Long Dream

DescriptionWhen it comes to living out life-long dreams, that’s always a goal we support here at For the Love. And do you know what we love just as much as seeing someone succeed? Broadway! We’re back with another week of the For the Love of Broadway series just as the whole country is celebrating the return of Broadway’s best. This week we take another peek behind the curtain to find out what it’s like to go through audition after audition, wondering if you’ll ever “make it there,” and

Sep 28, 2021 • 47:04

Hamilton’s Christopher Jackson on Knowing Who You Are—On and Off Broadway

Hamilton’s Christopher Jackson on Knowing Who You Are—On and Off Broadway

Pull your tickets out and silence your cell phones as we dive into another episode in our For the Love of Broadway series! As live theater comes back into all of our lives, we’re going straight to the heart and soul behind it. The actors, the writers, the composers—all work together to put these fantastic and magical shows out day in and day out, and we want to know what inspires them to do it. Maybe it’s always been their dream to hit the big stage, maybe it’s something they stumbled u

Sep 21, 2021 • 51:08

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Elizabeth Acevedo’s “Clap When You Land”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Elizabeth Acevedo’s “Clap When You Land”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For August 2021, Jen and the club read Elizabeth Acevedo’s Clap When You Land. Elizabeth Acevedo is an internationally known New York Times bestselling author. Her writing is inspired by her Afro-Dominican roots, along with her upbringing in New York City as the daughter of Dominican immigrants. She is formally tra

Sep 17, 2021 • 54:30

The Double Name Witches, ft. Wicked’s Mary Kate Morrissey and Ginna Claire Mason

The Double Name Witches, ft. Wicked’s Mary Kate Morrissey and Ginna Claire Mason

This week we are rolling back the curtains and kicking off a brand new series, For the Love of Broadway...so dim the lights and get ready for the absolute blast we are going to have here! To kick off this series we are welcoming two of Broadway’s best—Mary Kate Morrissey and Ginna Claire Mason, aka, Elphaba and Glinda. You know, the witches from Wicked? Yeah, those ones. Mary Kate and Ginna Claire, affectionately referred to as MK and GC, are going to take us through their journeys to t

Sep 14, 2021 • 1:03:24

Antoni Porowski [BONUS] “Antoni: Let’s Do Dinner” Cookbook Chat

Antoni Porowski [BONUS] “Antoni: Let’s Do Dinner” Cookbook Chat

Happy unscheduled podcast goodness day to you all—we’ve got a super fun bonus episode for you! This week we are welcoming the one and only Antoni Porowski to the show. You know and love him from the delightfully heartwarming Netflix show, Queer Eye, where he works as the food and wine expert, teaching people the power of caring for all bodies—inside and out. Not one to just have a day job, Antoni is also in the throes of releasing his most recent cookbook, Antoni: Let’s Do Dinner. This book feat

Sep 10, 2021 • 24:27

Moving Forward After Pain Rips Your Script: Maggie Smith

Moving Forward After Pain Rips Your Script: Maggie Smith

It’s so hard but so true: growth often comes from the most painful parts of life. An untreatable diagnosis, a painful divorce, the loss of savings that took a lifetime to build—when the script we write for ourselves is ripped apart by the unthinkable, we’re forced to rethink everything, like who we are, what we value, and where we spend our time. Moving the boulders of our identity requires us to push ourselves in ways we never asked for. And as frustrating as it can be, the pushing bri

Sep 7, 2021 • 1:02:06

Fighting Fear of Failure and Taking the Leap with Jamie Kern Lima

Fighting Fear of Failure and Taking the Leap with Jamie Kern Lima

Taking a leap in the face of uncertainty is scary. It’s hard to envision a life in which you are living your dream, especially if your current reality is not living up to your expectations. But, what if it all works out? What if everything you are dreaming of comes to fruition and you get the life you want? Wouldn’t that be worth the leap? That’s just another facet of flipping the script of our lives and we are so inspired by women across the world that take that leap into the unknown w

Aug 31, 2021 • 1:04:06

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Gabrielle Hamilton’s “Blood, Bones & Butter”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Gabrielle Hamilton’s “Blood, Bones & Butter”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For July 2021, Jen and the club read Gabrielle Hamilton’s Blood, Bones & Butter. Gabrielle Hamilton is a chef, author, and restaurant owner based in New York. Her roots in food and cooking were heavily influenced by her mother’s French origins, and created a unique relationship between Gabrielle and food. She was used to fo

Aug 27, 2021 • 57:07

Renovating Lives and Homes with HGTV’s Mina Hawk

Renovating Lives and Homes with HGTV’s Mina Hawk

Fresh starts, new beginnings, and renovations. As we continue to dive into all the ways we can “flip the script” in our lives, we’re taking on one that is pretty literal—refreshing and renovating homes. Whether it’s something small like shuffling the furniture around in our living room to give a new perspective, or adding a new color of paint to our walls, we can all attest to how good it feels to freshen a space. Taking it to the next level—renovating a space—by maybe taking a room or

Aug 24, 2021 • 52:31

Everything’s A Gift: Steering Our Lives Through Light & Through Darkness with Amy Grant

Everything’s A Gift: Steering Our Lives Through Light & Through Darkness with Amy Grant

Continuing on in our Flip the Script series, we look at not only the things that happen “to us,” but the things that happen “by us.” Our guest this week epitomizes a life that includes those things we weren’t expecting that alter our course (for her, it was a heart defect diagnosis) and those things that are very intentional, like new efforts to find balance and taking responsibility for steering our own lives. Singer/songwriter Amy Grant is no stranger to our show, or to our community.

Aug 17, 2021 • 54:04

27: Weekly Meal Planning Will Change Your Life

27: Weekly Meal Planning Will Change Your Life

Do you need more time and less stress during the back-to-school rush? Would you like more structure in your week as you roll into fall? Then say hello to a practice that’ll instantly change your life: meal planning! Because when you sit down one time and map out what your people will eat for the week, the stress of the “What’s for dinner?” question after a long day instantly evaporates (along with your hangriness). This week, Emily shares 6 life-changing tips to make meal prep an easy part of yo

Aug 17, 2021 • 26:17

Real Change Can Begin with a Conversation ft. Malynda Hale

Real Change Can Begin with a Conversation ft. Malynda Hale

When it comes to learning to dream again after a big change, it can be hard to think outside the bounds of where we have always lived. It’s hard to imagine a world that looks different from the one we are so accustomed to. So, when it comes the time to start thinking big and looking outside the box we place ourselves in, where do we start? Oftentimes, flipping the script happens internally, and then branches out from there. This week we will be looking at the ways in which faith guides

Aug 10, 2021 • 1:07:31

I Survived My World Turning Upside Down and You Can Too: Jen Flips The Script

I Survived My World Turning Upside Down and You Can Too: Jen Flips The Script

Kicking off our Flipping the Script series is none other than our venerable host, Jen herself. In this solo episode, Jen transparently talks about the changes in her life in the last year--the days she thought she wouldn’t survive, and the days where she could finally see hope dancing around the corner. Jen walks us through key times throughout all of her life when she flipped the script of her existence in several areas; spiritually, as a woman, and in her view of her body. She shares

Aug 3, 2021 • 56:38

Following Your Heart for Meaningful Change with Jennifer Garner

Following Your Heart for Meaningful Change with Jennifer Garner

We’re back with more of the For the Love of Transitions series which is showing us the many ways we can move through life after a huge shift has occurred—whether it was chosen or thrust upon us. We have learned what it’s like to live through tragedy, we have seen what steps we must take to create a system of equity, and this week, we are talking through what it’s like to choose a transition from the world of acting to the world of activism. Jennifer Garner--you know her, you love her--she’s here

Jul 27, 2021 • 58:05

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Emma Straub’s “All Adults Here”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Emma Straub’s “All Adults Here”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For June 2021, Jen and the club read Emma Straub's All Adults Here. Emma is a New York Times bestselling author of three additional novels, including The Vacationers, Modern Lovers, and Laura Lamont’s Life in Pictures. Her books have been published in 20 countries, with All Adults Here recently being picked up by Apple for

Jul 23, 2021 • 46:37

Owning and Knowing Your Finances with the “Budgetnista” - Tiffany Aliche

Owning and Knowing Your Finances with the “Budgetnista” - Tiffany Aliche

As we continue in our For the Love of Transitions series, we’re tackling one of the most stressful transitions to face in life--a change to our financial situation. Perhaps a job change/loss reduced your income unexpectedly, or maybe a medical situation came out of the blue and drained your bank account, or maybe you went through a divorce and are down one income, and/or never had to be in charge of your own finances as an adult. Tiffany Aliche, aka, The Budgetnista has some thoughts for you, th

Jul 20, 2021 • 1:05:25

Understanding a Transgender Person with Stephanie Byers

Understanding a Transgender Person with Stephanie Byers

When it comes to making a big transition in life, we are often held back by fear. Fear of judgment, fear of backlash, fear of losing those close to us. But, oftentimes, it takes a big transition to lead us toward a more fully authentic life. For some of us, on the surface, it’s easier to “be who we are” authentically—especially if we identify as straight cis-gender individuals. But for our friends in the trans community, taking the step to become who they really are has traditionally be

Jul 13, 2021 • 53:02

Learning to Love The Image in the Mirror with Jess Connolly

Learning to Love The Image in the Mirror with Jess Connolly

In our For the Love of Transitions series, we’ve been looking at and evaluating the chosen and unchosen changes so many of us experience in the various seasons of our lives. In the category of chosen changes, we have found that so many women would welcome one in their lives, and it’s to develop a positive view of our bodies. Think back to the first time you had negative perceptions of your body. Were you 13 and getting ready for the homecoming dance? Maybe you were younger—9 years old a

Jul 6, 2021 • 49:54

Everything Great is Birthed from Discomfort with Emmanuel Acho 

Everything Great is Birthed from Discomfort with Emmanuel Acho 

When it comes to changing unhealthy dialogues and digging up errant roots that have been allowed to grow deep—many of us tend to ignore the discomfort and carry on with our days. However, when we live in denial, inequity and ignorance cannot be challenged, and greatness will not be achieved. During our For the Love of Transitions series, we’re learning how to embrace change. We’re sharing the stories of people who have lived through or implemented drastic changes in their lives and came

Jun 29, 2021 • 41:09

Releasing The Fantasy of “The Good Girl” with Dr. Shefali Tsabary

Releasing The Fantasy of “The Good Girl” with Dr. Shefali Tsabary

We continue with the “For the Love of Transitions” series and it’s giving us so many new perspectives on pushing back against what we’ve always known and finding new ways to grow and evolve into the person we have always wanted to be. This week’s episode really hits us where we live as we pursue to live a life that is “free”; free from pain, free from hurt, and free from bending to the will and opinion of others. Do you think you are living freely? In your soul, choices, and relationships? Do yo

Jun 22, 2021 • 52:17

The Shifting Role of Religion vs. Faith with Diana Butler Bass

The Shifting Role of Religion vs. Faith with Diana Butler Bass

Continuing in our “For the Love of Transitions” series, we look at crossroads many of us are facing in regards to our view of faith and religion. More than ever before, people in our country are choosing not to identify with a specific religion, including a large segment of Millennials who say they’ve “never attended church.” But amidst these shifts, there are many who hold tight to their faith, but haven’t found the stability of years past in the institutions they used to invest in for themselv

Jun 15, 2021 • 1:13:33

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sue Monk Kidd’s “The Book of Longings”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sue Monk Kidd’s “The Book of Longings”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For May 2021, Jen and the club read Sue Monk Kidd’s The Book of Longings. Sue’s writing skyrocketed into notoriety after the publication of her book, The Secret Life of Bees. This novel spent nearly two years on the New York Times bestsellers list, has been translated into 36 languages, and has sold nearly 8 millio

Jun 11, 2021 • 53:09

Rebuilding Your Life Out of the Rubble with Amy Downs 

Rebuilding Your Life Out of the Rubble with Amy Downs 

This week we are kicking off a brand new series here on the For the Love Podcast. There are so many times in each of our lives where a curveball just knocks us on our backs. The unexpected transition from what you thought was going to happen to your new reality is often hard to grapple with. But sometimes, we choose to make a major life change. So we’ll talk through all the ways we can embrace a transition. We’ll seek guidance from people who have made those transitions, learned from th

Jun 8, 2021 • 47:15

Spring Back Series: Living Proudly with Sydney Hatmaker

Spring Back Series: Living Proudly with Sydney Hatmaker

It’s the last episode of our Spring Back series--and we’re wrapping it up with a conversation that was the most listened to (and commented on) episode in our entire For the Love podcast history--and it’s with none other than Jen’s daughter, Sydney Hatmaker! Sydney first appeared on our show last summer, where she shared with the world that she was gay; walking us through her journey, beginning at 12 years old, and how hard she worked to reckon this with her faith and the beliefs of her

Jun 1, 2021 • 24:14

Spring Back Series: Finding Your Truth with Abby Wambach & Glennon Doyle

Spring Back Series: Finding Your Truth with Abby Wambach & Glennon Doyle

Are you ready to find your truth? We are currently in the tail-end of our spring back series where we are re-visiting some of our favorite episodes from For The Love past, and Jen’s bringing some all new insight and commentary to the conversation, as it is relevant to where we all are right now. This week we bring you the blockbuster combo of Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach! We love them here, but just in case you’re new, Glennon is a speaker, encourager, and a New York Times bestselling author w

May 25, 2021 • 39:21

Spring Back Series: Loving Fiercely with Marcie Walker

Spring Back Series: Loving Fiercely with Marcie Walker

There are so many lessons in life that are evergreen; they stay with us through each season, and that’s why we’re revisiting some episodes that bring those truths home in ways that are so applicable to where we are in life. Right. Now. For this episode of our Spring Back Series, we are bringing back one of our favorites - Marcie Alvis-Walker. Marcie is the creator of Black Coffee with White Friends and is an incredible teacher, leader, and woman. The first time she was here, Marcie and

May 18, 2021 • 38:29

Spring Back Series: Embracing Authenticity with Luvvie Ajayi Jones

Spring Back Series: Embracing Authenticity with Luvvie Ajayi Jones

Each day as we inch closer to summer, we are reminded of all the possibilities that surround us daily. The leaves on the trees are becoming greener by the minute, the grass is finally dense and fluffy, flowers are pushing their way through the dirt. And just as the earth evolves, so do we. That’s why we wanted to bring you the Spring Back Series. After a particularly hard year or winter, it’s hard to remember all that we learned the year before. It’s even harder to put those lessons into practic

May 11, 2021 • 32:59

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Jen & Friends on Simple and Free

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Jen & Friends on Simple and Free

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For April 2021, Jen chose her own book, Simple and Free, because what’s the point in having a book club if you can’t pick your own book every now and again? Jen invited two of her very best friends, Jenny and Shonna, to jump in on the discussion. They reminisce about the group decision to dive into living the exper

May 7, 2021 • 33:45

Spring Back Series: Growing Boldly & Simply with Emily Ley 

Spring Back Series: Growing Boldly & Simply with Emily Ley 

Just as we rely on spring each year to bring light and warmth back into our lives, we also depend on the lessons of life that show up during each season. That’s why on this series of For the Love we are bringing back some of our all-time favorite guests. Not only to remind ourselves of what life was like way back when it was normal, but also to give ourselves the chance to look back on some life lessons that we should always carry with us. And this week, we are bringing you the one and

May 4, 2021 • 33:50

Spring Back Series #1: Courageously Changing with Beth Moore

Spring Back Series #1: Courageously Changing with Beth Moore

Spring is here, and you know what that means! Blossoming, regrowth, cleaning out, all the goodness that comes with a new season. But that doesn’t mean we should leave behind the lessons learned last season. We can be watering what we planted, watching it grow, and trying to become the better humans we’ve always strived to be. There are truths and lessons that come back year after year, reminding us of who we want to be and who we should be. To that end, we’ve gathered some wisdom from a

Apr 27, 2021 • 45:30

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Laura Zigman’s “Separation Anxiety”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Laura Zigman’s “Separation Anxiety”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For March 2021, Jen and the club read Laura Zigman’s Separation Anxiety. Laura shot into superstardom with the publication of her first novel, Animal Husbandry, which was later adapted into the film Someone Like You starring Hugh Jackman and Ashley Judd. So, no big deal for your first book, right? Laura’s latest bo

Apr 23, 2021 • 58:15

Joanna Gaines on Gardening, Ramen, and Bringing Family to the Table

Joanna Gaines on Gardening, Ramen, and Bringing Family to the Table

It’s the grand finale of our For the Love of Food series—and lucky for us, we’ve got someone on today who holds the very high honor of “Most Requested For the Love Podcast Guest of All Time”—Joanna Gaines! Jen and Jo are real-life buddies, and this week they dive into Joanna’s rich family heritage that introduced her to so many cuisines from around the world by the time she could crawl. They dish about how to get a big family to get to the table, let alone connect at the table, how Jo f

Apr 20, 2021 • 49:54

 Jeff Mauro on the “Come On Over” Mentality & Proper Sandwich Protocol

 Jeff Mauro on the “Come On Over” Mentality & Proper Sandwich Protocol

“Come on over.” Talk about three words that promise fun’s on the way! We’re daydreaming of getting back to game nights with our besties, and margaritas with the neighbors, and the great Jeff Mauro is no exception. You may know him as a cohost on Food Network’s The Kitchen, or maybe as a winner of The Next Food Network Star. After getting his start working in a deli when he was 15 and later opening his own, Jeff is the larger-than-life sandwich king who’s just published a cookbook and la

Apr 13, 2021 • 54:22

Cookbooks, Country Music, and Creativity with Martina McBride

Cookbooks, Country Music, and Creativity with Martina McBride

When you’re a kitchen newbie, it can feel a little intimidating—and even overwhelming—to figure out how to put a good meal together, especially if you’re just asking yourself questions like, “What the heck is oregano, anyway?” But we all start somewhere, even world-renowned country music artists. Martina McBride is a 14-time GRAMMY-nominated country singer, cookbook author, and self-taught home chef. Jen and Martina talk through what it’s really like to put a cookbook together, how thes

Apr 6, 2021 • 48:43

Chaat, Chopped, and Culinary Globe Trotting with Maneet Chauhan

Chaat, Chopped, and Culinary Globe Trotting with Maneet Chauhan

We *know* we aren’t the only ones who spend hours on the couch binging episodes of Chopped or Iron Chef. Not only is it super satisfying watching other people cook— we feel like we become friends with the contestants and judges. And this week, we get to hear from one of our favorite Food Network chefs/judges/friends, Maneet Chauhan! Maneet and Jen take a walk through Maneet’s culinary history from her beginnings in India to the leap she took into the NYC culinary scene, and why she deci

Mar 30, 2021 • 51:28

Community Bonding over Anchovy Pasta with Alex Snodgrass

Community Bonding over Anchovy Pasta with Alex Snodgrass

In the past year, many of us have looked at our kitchens and had to flip the Open sign to Closed. We put big holidays dinners on hold. We canceled game nights with our friends. We traded cutting boards for takeout containers because we just. couldn’t. cook. another. meal. But we still need to eat and nourish our bodies and souls, and for that, we turn to Alex Snodgrass of The Defined Dish. Alex shares her unlikely journey to creating a popular food brand and a New York Times bestselling

Mar 23, 2021 • 45:56

[BONUS] Jennifer Garner on the Power of Saying Yes

[BONUS] Jennifer Garner on the Power of Saying Yes

Break out the confetti cannons because today’s guest is someone we’ve wanted on the show since Day 1: the one and only Jennifer Garner! Who didn’t love Alias? Who doesn’t watch 13 Going on 30 at least once a year? Jen Garner is one of our favorite actors ever, and today, the two Jens talk about all things Yes Day, Jen Garner’s brand-new movie on Netflix that’s the *perfect* feel-good watch for your family this spring break. The Jens talk about the phenomenon of Yes Days they’ve shared w

Mar 19, 2021 • 25:31

Thai Food, Traveling with Knives, and Connections at the Table: Bri McKoy

Thai Food, Traveling with Knives, and Connections at the Table: Bri McKoy

We hope all you foodies out there have been enjoying the Food 2.0 series. But we know some of you saw what this series was about and thought, I can’t cook, I’ve never cooked, I will never cook, and you can’t make me! Listen, we get it—cooking isn’t everyone’s bag. It wasn’t Bri McKoy’s either. Bri’s an accidental home cook turned cookbook author, and her foray into the culinary space started when her husband refused to build a home out of their collection of Thai takeout containers. Bri reluctan

Mar 16, 2021 • 59:32

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Jacqueline Woodson’s “Red at the Bone”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Jacqueline Woodson’s “Red at the Bone”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For February 2021, the Jen Hatmaker Book Club read the novel Red at the Bone by four-time National Book Award winner Jacqueline Woodson, and whew, what a story. Jacqueline is a master storyteller who explores all kinds of topics—sexual desire and identity, ambition, gentrification, education, class and status, and the life-

Mar 12, 2021 • 57:55

Great British Bake Off’s Nadiya Hussain on Confidence & Mayo Mashed Potatoes

Great British Bake Off’s Nadiya Hussain on Confidence & Mayo Mashed Potatoes

We’ve got a crush on this series and everyone in it—because FOOD! For the Love of Food, Part 2 is cooking up something new this week as we move into BAKING with a member of the royal family of baking itself—The Great British Bake Off’s Nadiya Hussain! Nadiya is not only the Mary Poppins of baking, she’s also hosting a brand-new show on Netflix that’ll be your brand-new happy place, and it’s called—what else?—Nadiya Bakes. Nadiya reveals why she never turned on an oven or baked anything

Mar 9, 2021 • 48:08

Ree Drummond on Microwaved Ding Dongs and Other Real-Life Cooking

Ree Drummond on Microwaved Ding Dongs and Other Real-Life Cooking

It’s a big day on For the Love, friends—we’re celebrating our 200th episode! We’re kicking off a brand-new series about food! And we’re celebrating it all with an FTL Fan Favorite: The Pioneer Woman herself, Ree Drummond! Ree’s back on the show to talk about the best (or tackiest?) sweatshirt of all time gifted to her by none other than Purveyor of Fine Sweatshirts, Jen Hatmaker. Jen and Ree talk about their favorite pastimes, potato chip sandwiches, what Ree makes when she’s just freak

Mar 2, 2021 • 56:43

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] William Kent Krueger’s “This Tender Land”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] William Kent Krueger’s “This Tender Land”

Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For January 2021, the Jen Hatmaker Book Club read the novel This Tender Land by the author extraordinaire William Kent Krueger. Chock full of intrigue and adventure and drama, this unforgettable story of four orphans who travel the Mississippi River on a life-changing journey during the Great Depression just absolu

Feb 26, 2021 • 46:05

Leaning in to Love Others (Even When We Disagree):  Rozella Haydée White

Leaning in to Love Others (Even When We Disagree):  Rozella Haydée White

Have you ever had a conversation with a friend or loved one where you couldn’t find common ground about something that fundamentally mattered to you? Is it possible for those relationships to continue, even though you don’t see eye to eye? Today we’re wrapping up our For the Love of Reconnecting series and talking about some of the hardest reconnecting of all: how to stay engaged with and even love someone who thinks differently from us. To guide us through this rocky terrain, we have R

Feb 23, 2021 • 1:00:52

Ambition is a Girl's Best Friend: Priyanka Chopra Jonas on Reconnecting with Our Dreams

Ambition is a Girl's Best Friend: Priyanka Chopra Jonas on Reconnecting with Our Dreams

Over the past year, we’ve had to put our dreams on hold. We canceled vacations, missed family gatherings, and constantly wondered, How long will my life look like this? But those spaces in our calendars have given us the margin to think about what’s next for us. And as we continue our For the Love of Reconnecting series, we’re going to go out on a limb and thinking about what it looks like to reconnect with our dreams. And our next guest, Priyanka Chopra Jonas knows all about that. Priyanka’s a

Feb 16, 2021 • 45:09

Communication Drives Connection—and Healing: Dr. Mark Goulston

Communication Drives Connection—and Healing: Dr. Mark Goulston

Get ready for a deep-dive into what it means to listen and connect with those around you with our next guest in the Reconnecting series: psychiatrist and executive coach Dr. Mark Goulston. As a former FBI hostage negotiation trainer, Dr. Goulston knows how to reach out to and connect with just about anyone. After the past twelve months, we’re all living on edge, and Dr. Goulston gives Jen a few communication tips to guide tense conversations toward calm. Plus, Dr. Goulston shows us how

Feb 9, 2021 • 1:00:19

Exploring the Joys and Pitfalls of Online Connection: Chris Stedman

Exploring the Joys and Pitfalls of Online Connection: Chris Stedman

Break out a pen and notebook, because today on For the Love, we’re going back to school with writer and professor Chris Stedman, our next guest in the For the Love of Reconnecting series. A former chaplain at Harvard and founding director of the Yale Humanist Community, Chris just wrote a fascinating book called IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives. He’s a millennial who grew up fluent in the digital world but didn’t have a smartphone that tethered him to t

Feb 2, 2021 • 1:02:30

Reconnecting with God Through Our Wandering with Bunmi Laditan

Reconnecting with God Through Our Wandering with Bunmi Laditan

With so much discussion around finding different ways to connect in a season where literal physical connections are challenging at best, how do we address when our spiritual connections are faltering? How do we “feel seen” by God when things are not okay and our attitudes are washed in more doubt than belief? Writer Bunmi Laditan (also known by her online moniker, The Honest Toddler) joins For the Love to share her lifelong journey of wrestling with God and faith, and ultimately finding

Jan 26, 2021 • 52:16

Making Good Use of Our Emotions: Hilary Jacobs Hendel

Making Good Use of Our Emotions: Hilary Jacobs Hendel

It’s so hard to feel your feelings—especially when you have all of them all at once, and it’s never a convenient time to process them. For the past year, we’ve all been stewing with anxiety, stress, anger, loneliness, grief, and fear. Ignoring our hard feelings might seem like the easiest way to cope and get relief—but it’s not the only option available to us. Our next guest in our For the Love of Reconnecting Series, psychoanalyst and therapist Hilary Jacobs Hendel, reminds us that whe

Jan 19, 2021 • 53:39

How Boundaries Can Save Your Relationships with Nedra Glover Tawwab

How Boundaries Can Save Your Relationships with Nedra Glover Tawwab

Next up in our For the Love of Reconnecting series, we’re touching base with a very important and easy-to-lose-hold-of concept: our boundaries. If 2020 taught us anything, it’s how much setting boundaries impacts our life. So why do we feel guilty when we actually do set them? And when was the last time you took a second to think about what you need and what you have the capacity for? Therapist Nedra Glover Tawwab, author of the book Set Boundaries, Find Peace, walks us through how we draw these

Jan 12, 2021 • 1:01:29

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Allison Winn Scotch’s “Cleo McDougal Regrets Nothing”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Allison Winn Scotch’s “Cleo McDougal Regrets Nothing”

Sneak peek alert! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Look no further, and allow us to welcome you to the Jen Hatmaker Book Club. Want to join us? Visit jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. This month, we read the oh-so-powerful Cleo McDougal Regrets Nothing by Allison Winn Scotch. Allison tells us why the #MeToo and TIME’S UP movements inspired her to write this story, plus we dive into how regrets can impact our lives and how t

Jan 8, 2021 • 47:18

Rewriting the Stories We Tell Ourselves: Lori Gottlieb

Rewriting the Stories We Tell Ourselves: Lori Gottlieb

New year, new series! We’re thinking all about For the Love of Reconnecting, where we’ll try to get back in touch with who we are and what we value, so that we can start to inch forward in this brand-new year. What’s holding you back? Is there a real obstacle standing in the way of your growth—or is it just a story you’re telling yourself? Therapist, author, TED Talk superstar and podcast host Lori Gottlieb knows a thing or two about the stories we tell ourselves. In fact, Lori opens up

Jan 5, 2021 • 54:26

Living While We Wait: Cece Jones-Davis’ Blessing for 2021

Living While We Wait: Cece Jones-Davis’ Blessing for 2021

We made it, you guys—we’re finally turning the corner into a brand-new year and into the hope of a fresh start. And while 2021 will no doubt have its set of challenges, we’ve set our minds to living in the moment while we wait for a post-pandemic world to settle in, thanks to inspiration from minister and activist Cece Jones-Davis. Cece was one of our favorite 2020 guests, and she’s back to lead us through a vigil on what we’ve walked through this year and reflect on all the beautiful t

Dec 29, 2020 • 46:11

Hallmark and Chill: Christmas Movies with the guys from Deck the Hallmark 

Hallmark and Chill: Christmas Movies with the guys from Deck the Hallmark 

It’s the most wonderful time of the year! But let’s be honest: if you’re a Hallmark Christmas Movie addict, it’s been the most wonderful time of the year since October, and you’re *not sorry* about it. And neither are Dan, Panda, and Bran—the 3 dudes behind the smash-hit podcast Deck the Hallmark. These Hallmark movie connoisseurs each have a different perspective: Bran loves them, Panda’s okay with them, and Dan hate-watches with all his might. Jen and the guys break down why these, le

Dec 22, 2020 • 55:45

Winning by Saying Yes to What’s Next: Lori Allen

Winning by Saying Yes to What’s Next: Lori Allen

This week, we’re wrapping up our celebration of small wins amid the 2020 dumpster fire, and we’re asking ourselves two questions: where we go from here, and how do we say yes what’s ahead? Savvy businesswoman and bubbly star of TLC’s Say Yes to the Dress: Atlanta Lori Allen has said yes to many things in her life: launching and running a successful bridal boutique for 40 years, fighting breast cancer, and managing the roles of wife, mom, grandmother, and daughter of aging parents. Lori and Jen b

Dec 15, 2020 • 50:46

✅Clutching onto Faith in the Wilderness Moments: Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart

✅Clutching onto Faith in the Wilderness Moments: Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart

“If my faith cannot offer me something in the wilderness moments, it isn’t worth having,” says Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart. And as we explore the silver linings of this turbulent year, Rev. Naomi’s wisdom is just what we need as we turn our thoughts to how our faith has held us up, stretched our empathy, and asked us to hold suffering and joy with both hands. As Philadelphia’s Director of the Mayor’s Office of Faith-Based and Interfaith Affairs, Rev. Naomi has spent the year trying

Dec 8, 2020 • 54:19

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Abbi Waxman’s “The Bookish Life of Nina Hill”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Abbi Waxman’s “The Bookish Life of Nina Hill”

Sneak peek alert! Are you a bookie? Do you love reading and talking about what you’re reading? Then the Jen Hatmaker Book Club is where you belong. Want to join us? Visit jenhatmakerbookclub.com, become one of the squad. This month, we read the fiercely feminine and delightful novel The Bookish Life of Nina Hill by the oh-so-talented Abbi Waxman. Abbi gives us a peek into her pleasurable work that’s truly the happy ending we need right now, because just like Nina, books are our escape.

Dec 4, 2020 • 45:16

Laughing Through the Ugly Cry with Dawn Barton

Laughing Through the Ugly Cry with Dawn Barton

Joy and pain aren’t mutually exclusive; they mingle together in our stories every single day. That’s probably never been more true than in 2020. In these moments, we reach for guides who have traveled through some dark moments and come out the other side, and we couldn’t have a better teacher than writer, speaker, and self-proclaimed joyologist Dawn Barton. Pain and loss have been familiar companions to Dawn for a long time. She’s lost a baby daughter, and a sister to cancer. She’s suff

Dec 1, 2020 • 48:12

2020 Heroes Build Bridges Over Walls: Combat Vet Diana Oestreich

2020 Heroes Build Bridges Over Walls: Combat Vet Diana Oestreich

2020 has shaken up so many of our beliefs. What’s normal? What’s safe? What does it look like for our families and our communities to thrive? These are life-changing questions, and today’s guest is someone who has been searching for the answers to these very questions for nearly two decades. Diana Oestreich was an American soldier in Iraq who received orders to keep her convoy rolling at all costs, even if children crossed her path. And in that gut-wrenching moment, Diana decided she co

Nov 24, 2020 • 50:18

The Lazy Genius Life with Recovering Perfectionist Kendra Adachi

The Lazy Genius Life with Recovering Perfectionist Kendra Adachi

Do you know who has a PhD in Small Wins? We do, because this week on the show we have The Lazy Genius, AKA the brilliant and delightful Kendra Adachi! Kendra is the woman who brought the Tim Riggins Salad and Change Your Life Chicken to the internet, and she is about to change our lives far beyond the fridge (though fun fact: that chicken is delicious). Kendra’s going to give us a treasure trove of pro tips, like the beauty of 17-minute naps and the stress-reducing way to clean up our k

Nov 17, 2020 • 58:21

Jen's Favorite Things – The 4th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Jen's Favorite Things – The 4th Annual Holiday Gift Guide

It’s the most wonderful time of the year—gift guide time! We're going to go ahead and give 2020 the No, Thank You Award, but we can still try to make the holidays merry and bright. And to help you do that, we bring you the 4th installment of Jen’s Favorite Things! Every year, we shine a spotlight on brands we love that also give back, so we do the most good with the dollars we're already going to spend (and PS: so many of these companies are women-owned!). So grab a cup of cocoa while J

Nov 16, 2020 • 46:08

Matthew McConaughey Catches Life’s Greenlights

Matthew McConaughey Catches Life’s Greenlights

On the road to finding small wins, it’s helpful to watch for the “green lights” in our lives—those signals that indicate we can move forward when we see them—but also recognize and appreciate the yellows and reds that slow us down so we can take a second to absorb what life is teaching us. Academy Award-winning actor, minister of culture, and self-proclaimed pickle expert Matthew McConaughey is a man who’s had a few green lights show up over the course of his career (along with a few re

Nov 10, 2020 • 52:44

Giving Up Guilt, Getting Back Joy with Valorie Burton

Giving Up Guilt, Getting Back Joy with Valorie Burton

Right now, we all need some small wins. And in our brand-new series called—wait for it—For the Love of Small Wins, we’re talking to thought leaders who remind us to look for the ways kindness and resilience has showed up in our lives this year. First up, author and life coach Valorie Burton knows all about something we each struggle with: guilt. She knows what it looks like, how it can disguise itself, and how ingrained it is in our daily lives. Valorie helps us identify the difference

Nov 6, 2020 • 59:31

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Kelly Corrigan’s “Tell Me More”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Kelly Corrigan’s “Tell Me More”

Want a sneak peek into the book club of your dreams? Then allow us to present: the Jen Hatmaker Book Club! From time to time, we’ll drop in with what we’re reading in hopes you’ll join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com—because we *know* you’ll love it. We had to bring this one out of the vault, because we are the biggest fans of NYT bestselling author—and now TV and podcast host—Kelly Corrigan! Kelly’s memoir Tell Me More was the first book we chose to read in the Jen Hatmaker Book Club back in June

Oct 30, 2020 • 1:07:41

Black in White Spaces: Marcie Alvis-Walker on Racial Intersections

Black in White Spaces: Marcie Alvis-Walker on Racial Intersections

To be Black in America means living at several different intersections. Writer and thinker Marcie Alvis-Walker joins For the Love Podcast to share the inspiration behind her beautiful, thought-provoking space called Black Coffee with White Friends. Marcie shares about her experience having to code switch as she grew up—she’d have to adapt her language, her likes and dislikes based on the group she was with—and what it’s like for her family to navigate the world being members of different races.

Oct 27, 2020 • 57:39

[BONUS] Michael Kutcher on “2 Hearts” Film & the Gift of Organ Donation

[BONUS] Michael Kutcher on “2 Hearts” Film & the Gift of Organ Donation

On this bonus episode of For the Love, we’re talking about a heartwarming new movie (based on a true story!) called “2 Hearts” with organ donor recipient and advocate Michael Kutcher. He’s a walking miracle shares his journey of receiving a heart transplant 29 years ago, and the profound ways the gift of organ donation not only gave him life—it impacted generations, as Michael is a proud father today. Michael and Jen talk about the beautiful parallels between Michael’s story and the “2

Oct 23, 2020 • 22:14

Recasting Portrayals of Race, with Brit Bennett

Recasting Portrayals of Race, with Brit Bennett

Stories come in many forms: in the reports we see in the news, the TV shows and movies that light up our screens, from books to toys and so many other places. New York Times bestselling author Brit Bennett is here to discuss the ways that Black stories are told and the ripple effects they have across American culture. She shares insight into her life as a young author and how she’s used her writing as a way to figure out the way she feels about different topics—like what it means to “pe

Oct 20, 2020 • 45:29

Empowering Black Entrepreneurs: Jessica O. Matthews Turns Adversity into Strength

Empowering Black Entrepreneurs: Jessica O. Matthews Turns Adversity into Strength

What does it mean to build the world in a way where every single person, no matter their color, gender, ability or religion has access to security and opportunity? That’s a question inventor and entrepreneur Jessica O. Matthews has spent much of her life asking. Jessica is the CEO of Uncharted Power, a company looking to build sustainable infrastructure in the world—which Jessica launched when she was just twenty-two years old! She shares the legacy of curiosity and hard work her parents passed

Oct 13, 2020 • 48:30

“Education Is Freedom Work”: Dr. Monique Morris on Investing in Black Students

“Education Is Freedom Work”: Dr. Monique Morris on Investing in Black Students

Having access to learning is a portal to opportunity, a key to unlocking your dreams and leaving doors open for those who come after you. That’s what education has been for Dr. Monique Morris, an author, scholar, justice educator and die-hard Prince fan who, in sixth grade, found herself at a fork in the road. She got into a fight with a boy who’d provoked her. And instead of suspending her, expelling her, or arresting her and pushing her away, Dr. Morris’ teachers reconnected her to he

Oct 6, 2020 • 1:04:14

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sejal Badani’s “The Storyteller’s Secret”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Sejal Badani’s “The Storyteller’s Secret”

Want a sneak peek into the book club of your dreams? Then allow us to present: the Jen Hatmaker Book Club! From time to time, we’ll drop in with what we’re reading in hopes you’ll join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com—because we *know* you’ll love it. This month, we read the gorgeous bestselling novel The Storyteller’s Secret by lawyer-turned-writer Sejal Badani. Sejal gives us a behind the scenes look at what it was like to write a fiction story that’s deeply rooted in her own family history, and

Oct 2, 2020 • 56:52

Centering Mental Health & Self-Care in Black America, with Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes

Centering Mental Health & Self-Care in Black America, with Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes

Cultivating a healthy mind is essential for our entire well-being. Psychologist and theologian Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes joins us For the Love of Black Lives series to help us unpack how the anxiety and trauma carried through generations of Black Americans affects the flourishing of communities of every stripe (and newsflash: the trauma we experience can be passed down through four generations after us). For so long, Black women have been praised as “strong,” and they absolutely are. B

Sep 29, 2020 • 59:52

Celebrating the Rich Legacy of Black Culture, Art & Fashion in America, with Dr. Tanisha C. Ford

Celebrating the Rich Legacy of Black Culture, Art & Fashion in America, with Dr. Tanisha C. Ford

Black culture is central to American culture—we simply don’t have America without having the Black experience, born of slavery and systemic racism and white supremacy, of physical and mental and emotional pain. But through generations, Black women and men have passed down stories given from their mothers and grandmothers. They’ve cooked and sang and danced and played the most beautiful music. They’ve wrote and dreamed and created. Black culture has inspired us for hundreds of years as it has wov

Sep 22, 2020 • 1:02:12

The Black Woman’s Fight to Be Well, with Christina M. Rice

The Black Woman’s Fight to Be Well, with Christina M. Rice

Though many of our country’s systems of care desperately need an overhaul, there’s one system in particular that could improve greatly to help Black Americans: healthcare. It might be unimaginable that we might get lesser care, for example, if we found ourselves in a medical emergency or were giving birth to our child. But Black women and men find themselves in these situations often, where healthcare professionals aren’t listening to their needs or taking time to understand their healt

Sep 15, 2020 • 58:01

Going to Church Shouldn't Hurt: Alicia Crosby on Religious Trauma’s Effect on Black Lives

Going to Church Shouldn't Hurt: Alicia Crosby on Religious Trauma’s Effect on Black Lives

God created a beautiful world, filled with people who share love, creativity, friendship and hope in all kinds of ways. For thousands of years, some have tried to use religion to wield power and authority over people around the globe, claiming “their” way was the “right” way to gain access to God. That’s how the seeds of religious trauma are sown. And through generations, we’ve seen members of the white American Christan church push Black and brown people away from the center of the church’s sto

Sep 8, 2020 • 1:07:36

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Nora McInerny’s “No Happy Endings”

[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Nora McInerny’s “No Happy Endings”

Want a sneak peek into the book club of your dreams? Then allow us to present: the Jen Hatmaker Book Club! From time to time, we’ll drop in with what we’re reading in hopes you’ll join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com—because we *know* you’ll love it. This month's book has been an over-the-top experience for all of us. We read No Happy Endings by Nora McInerny, and it’s resonated from top to bottom in our community. Nora makes a living talking to people about life's hardest moments, and sh

Sep 4, 2020 • 51:29

CeCe Jones-Davis: Realigning the Gears of the US Justice System

CeCe Jones-Davis: Realigning the Gears of the US Justice System

As lawyer and activist Bryan Stevenson puts it, slavery never actually ended—it just evolved, and today it looks like mass incarceration. In the past fifty years, we’ve seen the prison population skyrocket from 200,000 in 1970 to 2.2 million in 2020. In fact, America holds just 5% of the world’s population but more than 25% of the world’s prisoners, where the Black population clock in five times the rate of inmates as the white population. It is imperative that our generation abolish th

Sep 1, 2020 • 59:06

Ending Black Oppression and Celebrating Black Dignity with Alencia Johnson

Ending Black Oppression and Celebrating Black Dignity with Alencia Johnson

Today we open a new chapter of For the Love, where we’ll celebrate the beauty, wholeness, and dignity of Black Lives. At the same time, we’ll also explore the roots of the recent growing advocacy and racial reckoning with experts who will guide us through different facets of what it’s like to be Black in America—in education, health, culture, the church. We’ll unpack how the Black experience differs from the white experience, with true understanding of the gaps in these collective exper

Aug 25, 2020 • 1:05:15

[Summer Best Of For the Love] Actually Believing God Loves You Changes Everything: Jeff Chu

[Summer Best Of For the Love] Actually Believing God Loves You Changes Everything: Jeff Chu

Since journalist (and now podcaster!) Jeff Chu came on the show in spring of 2019, we haven’t forgotten his poignant storytelling or his answer to the powerful question he’s asked himself since he was a kid: “Does Jesus really love me?” Jeff grew up immersed in a family of theologians, where knowing and sticking to the Bible’s rules were prized currency. As Jeff approached high school, he realized he was gay. Over time, while he prayed for God to change who he was, Jeff threw himself into his wo

Aug 18, 2020 • 1:11:37

[Summer Best Of For the Love] Small Steps to a Happier Life: Gretchen Rubin

[Summer Best Of For the Love] Small Steps to a Happier Life: Gretchen Rubin

When lawyer-turned-writer Gretchen Rubin first came on the show in 2019, we were dazzled by the wisdom and tools she shared on how to live with more contentment, right where we are. A decade ago, Gretchen fancied herself a happy person. She had a job she liked, a husband and two daughters she loved, a life she enjoyed. But one day she found herself wondering, “Could I be happier?” So she set out to change her life—not in a blow-it-all-up-and-move-across-the-world kind of way, but with s

Aug 11, 2020 • 54:39

[Summer Best Of For the Love] The Glory of God in Our Pain: Kaitlin Curtice & the Power of Lament

[Summer Best Of For the Love] The Glory of God in Our Pain: Kaitlin Curtice & the Power of Lament

When our third Summer Best Of teacher speaks, people listen—and we couldn’t forget the powerful words she shared on For the Love in 2019. Raised a Southern Baptist, as she grew older Kaitlin Curtice began to explore her family’s rich history in the Potawatomi Citizen Band. Kaitlin tells us what life is like as an indigenous woman in the United States today, how she’s teaching her kids about their heritage and how we can rally around teachers of color during their hardest moments. Kaitli

Aug 4, 2020 • 1:00:44

[Summer Best of For the Love] You Are Wholly Good: Osheta Moore and Embracing “Shalom”

[Summer Best of For the Love] You Are Wholly Good: Osheta Moore and Embracing “Shalom”

Our second Summer Best Of guest is a teacher who taught us how to embrace peace with others, but also within ourselves. Osheta Moore is a writer, speaker, podcaster, and a faith groundbreaker. She’s also a powerful leader on racial reconciliation and equality, and through it all, she teaches that God wants each of us to be whole, vibrant, and flourishing. In her book and podcast called Shalom Sistas, Osheta breaks down 12 ways we can turn “shalom” into an action. She shows us how to become peace

Jul 28, 2020 • 1:05:59

[Summer Best of For the Love] Barbara Brown Taylor: Learning to Walk in the Dark

[Summer Best of For the Love] Barbara Brown Taylor: Learning to Walk in the Dark

Ever wish you had a toolkit tailor-made to get you through 2020? Us too. That’s why we pulled together a few of our favorite teachers who have graced the podcast over the years, so we can brush up on the important lessons they taught us and tools they gave us to meet this moment. First up is the matriarch of our favorite “What is saving your life right now?” question—Barbara Brown Taylor! Barbara is a New York Times bestselling author, teacher, and Episcopal priest, and she came on the

Jul 21, 2020 • 58:31

Enneagram Nines - Sarah Bessey on The Peacemakers

Enneagram Nines - Sarah Bessey on The Peacemakers

To close our spectacular Enneagram series, last but certainly not least (we promise, Nines!), we’re diving into the earnest and endearingly sincere Peacemakers with Jen’s wonderful friend and all-around good human, author Sarah Bessey. Fondly called the crown of the Enneagram, Type Nines have the gift to be fully empathetic, to love and accept without judgement because they can see others as made in God’s image. For a Nine, everyone belongs. This type may seem slow to move sometimes—tha

Jul 14, 2020 • 1:03:07

Enneagram Eights - Sarajane Case & Abi Robins on The Challengers

Enneagram Eights - Sarajane Case & Abi Robins on The Challengers

Make way for the Enneagram Eights! On this week’s episode, we get to chat with not one, but two experts about the steely armor and tender insides that make up The Challengers, as they’re sometimes called. Sarajane Case of Enneagram & Coffee helps us unpack the hallmark characteristic of an Eight—their strength—and reveals that an Eight’s strength typically stems from childhood happenings that trigger the notion that they have to take care of themselves, which they can also wrap around their love

Jul 7, 2020 • 1:00:56

Enneagram Sevens - Bob Goff on The Enthusiasts 

Enneagram Sevens - Bob Goff on The Enthusiasts 

Enneagram Sevens! You can’t say it without an exclamation point, right? This week we look at what many consider to be the most “fun” number on the Enneagram—known as The Enthusiasts for good reason! To guide us is a true Seven among Sevens and friend of the podcast, Bob Goff. Bob is a man of many hats—attorney, honorary consul, author, and humanitarian, to name a few. He’s here to share about the power of a Seven’s joy, their ability to have big dreams and ideas, and that a Seven’s enth

Jun 30, 2020 • 45:47

[BONUS] Jen and Sydney Hatmaker On Being Gay and Loved

[BONUS] Jen and Sydney Hatmaker On Being Gay and Loved

On this incredibly meaningful, special bonus episode of For the Love, in honor of Pride Month, a mother and daughter come together to have a frank and beautiful conversation about what it’s like to grow up as the daughter of a popular Christian author and speaker and in a household steeped in the church . . . and realize you’re gay. This is Jen and Sydney Hatmaker’s experience—and in this episode, Sydney and her mom tell their story so that parents, family, and friends of LGBTQ+ kids wh

Jun 26, 2020 • 43:00

✅Enneagram Sixes - Ashton Brye on The Loyalists

✅Enneagram Sixes - Ashton Brye on The Loyalists

On today’s peek behind the Enneagram curtain, we get to learn all about Type Sixes—the Loyalists—and what makes them tick. Graphic designer, Enneagram artist, and Disney cast member Ashton Brye shares how she discovered the Enneagram, applied her own artistic and pop culture spin on it, and voila! Her Instagram following @ashton.creates skyrocketed, all born out of her desire to learn more about all the Enneagram types. As a Six herself, Ashton breaks down for us how Sixes have a deep l

Jun 23, 2020 • 48:40

Enneagram Fives - Dr. Avon Manney & Knox McCoy on The Investigators

Enneagram Fives - Dr. Avon Manney & Knox McCoy on The Investigators

Today we begin a deep dive into the head triad, starting with Type Fives—the Investigators. And because there’s so much to learn about the complex Fives, we have not one but two guests to share their input: Enneagram expert Dr. Avon Manney, and podcaster/author/Enneagram Five Knox McCoy. Dr. Avon (a Nine married to a Five!) shares how she started applying the Enneagram to her osteopathy practice so she could help patients heal emotional issues that were manifesting in her patients’ bodi

Jun 16, 2020 • 1:03:52

[BONUS] White Women’s Toxic Tears, with Lisa Sharon Harper

[BONUS] White Women’s Toxic Tears, with Lisa Sharon Harper

In light of the uprisings of the past weeks, it is not enough to perform wokeness. We need true solidarity. True solidarity requires an understanding of the historical and cultural roots and current-day patterns of white women’s betrayals of people of color. It will also require repair. This is a raw, honest, informative, solidarity-building conversation with author and Freedom Road founder and president Lisa Sharon Harper. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices vi

Jun 11, 2020 • 1:09:55

Enneagram Fours - Ian Cron on The Individualists

Enneagram Fours - Ian Cron on The Individualists

Our Enneagram series continues with another type who rounds out the heart triad: the beautifully complex Type Fours (also known as The Romantics). To lead us on all things Type Four, we have an incredible returning guest: a Four himself, Ian Morgan Cron. Ian wears many hats—Enneagram expert, author of The Road Back to You, host of Typology Podcast, priest and psychotherapist, to name a few—and his Fourness is revealed in his beautiful, open posture toward humanity. He walks us through h

Jun 9, 2020 • 58:29

Enneagram Threes - Lisa Whelchel on The Achievers

Enneagram Threes - Lisa Whelchel on The Achievers

The next stop on the For the Love of The Enneagram train takes us to the land of the Enneagram Threes (also known as The Achievers). Leading us today are two Threes—someone you may know named Jen Hatmaker who’s a Three, and Lisa Whelchel. Lisa’s an actor (you may know her best as Blair from the ‘80s sitcom “The Facts of Life”), author, speaker, and life coach who is not only a Three herself, but who also raised a Three, and she’s just walked through a twelve-year journey of deconstructi

Jun 2, 2020 • 1:01:55

Enneagram Twos - Phileena Heuertz on The Helpers

Enneagram Twos - Phileena Heuertz on The Helpers

Our next installment of For the Love of The Enneagram brings us to wonderful Enneagram Twos (aka The Helpers!). And leading our discussion is Phileena Heuertz, a spiritual director and Enneagram expert who, as a Two herself, knows how it feels to love others and want to help them as much as she can, while at the same time longing to feel accepted for who she is, not necessarily what she does for others. Years ago, after Phileena began to study the Enneagram a bit more and felt deeply se

May 26, 2020 • 49:50

Enneagram Ones - The Reformers with Fr. Richard Rohr

Enneagram Ones - The Reformers with Fr. Richard Rohr

Last week, we launched our brand-new Enneagram series, and today we begin our deep-dive into each of the nine numbers. We’re starting right at the top with Enneagram Ones—and who’s better to talk about Ones than with For the Love favorite, Fr. Richard Rohr? While we’ve been obsessed with the Enneagram for only a few years, Fr. Richard has been studying it for decades, and he has keen insight into the personality assessment. As a One himself, Fr. Richard opens the door into what it’s lik

May 19, 2020 • 52:23

What is The Enneagram? Suzanne Stabile Gives Us a Primer

What is The Enneagram? Suzanne Stabile Gives Us a Primer

Good people of the internet and faithful For the Love listeners—you’ve asked, we’ve listened, and we are *thrilled* to invite you to our brand-new series on one of our favorite topics: The Enneagram personality assessment! Whether you’re a seasoned Ennea-thusiast or a complete newbie, you’re going to want to plug into this deep dive with Enneagram expert (and a Type 2 herself), Suzanne Stabile! Suzanne and Jen walk through the ins and outs of each of the nine Enneagram numbers, while Su

May 12, 2020 • 1:06:09

Elizabeth Gilbert Moves from Fear to Fierce

Elizabeth Gilbert Moves from Fear to Fierce

Who would we be if we weren’t afraid? What would our lives look like if we pushed aside our greatest fears and let curiosity lead the way? Today we’re wrapping the Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire series with one of the world’s greatest teachers on how to live in the beauty of freedom: award-winning writer and all-around good human, Elizabeth Gilbert. Liz has opened her life and poured her lessons generously into masterpieces on creative living like Eat, Pray, Love and Big Magic, plus her

May 5, 2020 • 1:03:37

[BONUS] A “Fierce” Jen Hatmaker Book Club Sneak Peek!

[BONUS] A “Fierce” Jen Hatmaker Book Club Sneak Peek!

Have you ever wanted to be part of an actual book club? One that actually reads the book instead of just providing classy cover for wine drinking? (well, okay, there’s still a *little* wine drinking) Then seriously, you need to join the Jen Hatmaker Book Club! Every month, Jen sends you one of her favorite books (along with a box of goodies!), and sits down with the book’s author for a podcast that’s exclusive for members . . . until TODAY! Because the April author of the month is none

Apr 30, 2020 • 1:23:11

Camila McConaughey: Empowerment to Do What We’ve Never Done Before

Camila McConaughey: Empowerment to Do What We’ve Never Done Before

Fierce women are all around us—we are them, we raise them, we’ve been mentored by them. But lifestyle expert and entrepreneur Camila McConaughey takes that to a new level by cultivating a loving, open, supportive community called Women of Today. The ultimate example of a fierce woman, Camila moved independently from Brazil to the U.S. at only fifteen, determined to take the world by storm. After stumbling into modeling, Camila hustled, and she hustled hard. She lived her life to the ver

Apr 28, 2020 • 45:46

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 11: Paula Faris on Realigning Our Priorities

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 11: Paula Faris on Realigning Our Priorities

Right now, we’re capable of so much more than surviving. We can thrive right now if we dig deep and we put our hand to this work. Award-winning ABC News correspondent Paula Faris, who also hosts the Journeys of Faith podcast, has just undergone an enormous self-transformation, right before all this COVID-19 craziness started happening, so she guides us through the waters here. She tells us how she’s leaning into her true purpose and how we use this season to discover ours. As co-anchor of Good M

Apr 27, 2020 • 32:41

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 10: Sheri Salata on Falling in Love with Change

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 10: Sheri Salata on Falling in Love with Change

Think about the day quarantine is over (dare we dream?). What will our lives look like? Who will we be? Is it possible that maybe, ever so gently, we can start taking a small inventory of what’s been serving us, and what we want to let go of? Leading us through these questions is the wise and witty Sheri Salata, former executive producer of The Oprah Winfrey Show, former co-president of Harpo Network and OWN. One day, Sheri woke up at age 57 and discovered that while she had the career

Apr 24, 2020 • 36:26

Jordan Lee Dooley Chases the Dream and Owns It

Jordan Lee Dooley Chases the Dream and Owns It

Our next “Fierce” guest is coming in hot! The dynamite leader of the Own It Academy, Jordan Lee Dooley, takes the mic to push us to ponder what our true dreams really are and how we can start to own them—even if we have to take steps outside of our comfort zone box (or the box that others have put us in!). And Jordan doesn’t just talk about chasing dreams—she’s a woman who walks behind her words. Jordan reveals how she forged her own path from Etsy shop owner to business educator, autho

Apr 21, 2020 • 58:26

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 9: Blame Scars, Forgiveness Heals: Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 9: Blame Scars, Forgiveness Heals: Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt

We’re all struggling with resentment right now—separation from family and friends, lost jobs and furloughs, cancelled graduations and vacations, and even struggling to come up with grace for the people living right inside our very houses. But our guest today, New York Times bestselling author Katherine Schwarzenegger Pratt, reminds us how healing and freeing it can be to wrap this season—and the rest of our lives—in forgiveness, even when it’s incredibly hard to encounter our pain and try to let

Apr 20, 2020 • 30:02

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 8: When This is Over, We Deserve A Parade: Jim Gaffigan’s Lockdown Life

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 8: When This is Over, We Deserve A Parade: Jim Gaffigan’s Lockdown Life

Quarantine Queens is back with another episode as we continue to muddle through this weird time of isolation and the ongoing search for the elusive “new normal,” including; when is it okay to take a break from the seriousness of it all to have fun and laugh? Enter this week’s guest, best-selling author and award winning comedian Jim Gaffigan. Like Jen, Jim is quarantining with his spouse and 5 kids, but unlike Jen, they literally can’t go one step out the door—as Jim describes it—“takin

Apr 16, 2020 • 41:28

Fierce, Free, & Full of Questions: Melissa Radke Gets Jen to Tell It All 

Fierce, Free, & Full of Questions: Melissa Radke Gets Jen to Tell It All 

The For the Love world is totally upside-down today, y’all. Jen is a guest on her own podcast, and gets interviewed about her new book, Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire, by the ever-so-magical Melissa Radke! Jen reveals the first outlier women who made lasting impressions on her: watching how they lived in her own skins in a way that didn't fit the template Jen had been prescribed from her conservative upbringing. The two talk about growing up in the church and the messaging they received

Apr 14, 2020 • 1:08:44

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 7: Kate Bowler – You Can Be Afraid & Faithful

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 7: Kate Bowler – You Can Be Afraid & Faithful

What do you do when you believe God is good, that He has a plans to give us hope and a future, and yet the reality of what we’re living is . . . well, it’s hard. And sad. So how do we reconcile having hard feelings and holding onto faith? Times like these call for experts who’ve walked hard paths before, and we have that leader in the incredible Kate Bowler, an associate professor at Duke Divinity School and NYT bestselling author of Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved. Af

Apr 13, 2020 • 33:20

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 6: Jessica & Matthew Paul Turner Give Us Pandemic Parenting Hacks

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 6: Jessica & Matthew Paul Turner Give Us Pandemic Parenting Hacks

Parents, we’re trying our best here. Who’d have ever thought we’d find ourselves in the middle of a pandemic, trying to help our offspring navigate a world we don’t really know how to wade through ourselves? Two of our fellow parents, blogger Jessica Turner and children’s book author Matthew Paul Turner, share how they’re managing all the moving pieces, and how they’re trying to balance structure with whimsy to keep kids on track. The Turners also give us the scoop on which tools and resources t

Apr 10, 2020 • 34:50

Queer Eye's Bobby Berk and the Fire Inside Us All

Queer Eye's Bobby Berk and the Fire Inside Us All

Our next guest in our Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire series is—get ready—Queer Eye’s delightful design guru Bobby Berk. Bobby walks us through the backstory we’ve all gotten glimpses of on TV: how he left home at 15, after realizing he was gay and knowing he would struggle against rejection and hatred in his small hometown. This began a tough journey where he worked multiple jobs, slept in his car, moving to Denver then eventually NYC, where he worked his way up at various design retail

Apr 8, 2020 • 59:36

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 5: Anne Bogel Helps Us Escape with Books (for Adults & Kids!)

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 5: Anne Bogel Helps Us Escape with Books (for Adults & Kids!)

More than ever, now’s the time we can dust off the books we’ve been meaning to read for forever and conquer our literary dreams. But what if your dreams of tackling War & Peace are too much right now and you just need a quick escape? What about books that pre-teens and teens stuck at home can pour themselves into—even for the kids who don’t find their noses in a book too often? The Queen of Books, aka Anne Bogel of Modern Mrs. Darcy, graces the podcast once again with some cozy book

Apr 6, 2020 • 37:12

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 4: Your Pantry During a Pandemic with Nom Nom Paleo’s Michelle Tam  

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 4: Your Pantry During a Pandemic with Nom Nom Paleo’s Michelle Tam  

Now that so many of us are figuring out what it looks like to be home all the time, we also find ourselves cooking, cooking, cooking. Whether you’ve got a family of seven like Jen, or are cooking for one, the temptation to stress eat (Doritos anyone? chased by some Haagen Dazs?) is strong. And conversely, so is the pressure to feed yourself and family well during a time of crisis when budgets may be under assault and grocery store trips aren’t as fruitful as they used to be. We have just the per

Apr 2, 2020 • 40:04

Glennon Doyle on What’s True and Beautiful, and the Lies We’ve Been Told

Glennon Doyle on What’s True and Beautiful, and the Lies We’ve Been Told

We’re THRILLED to launch our new “Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire” series, and our first guest lives all three of those traits in such an inspiring way. Glennon Doyle is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Love Warrior and Carry On, Warrior and she’s back with her rawest book yet: Untamed, which explores how women untangle themselves from the lies they’ve been told about their bodies, their voices, their minds and their places in the world. Glennon’s also an activist, and she’s t

Mar 31, 2020 • 56:59

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 3: Dr. John Townsend on Structure, Connection, & Boundaries in a Pandemic

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 3: Dr. John Townsend on Structure, Connection, & Boundaries in a Pandemic

On the best days, people are, well, a lot. They have feelings, they have opinions, they have needs—and as “responsible adults,” we have so many people relying on us at one time that sometimes it can feel like we cannot crumble, because who on earth knows what would happen if we did? Add in a virus, some upended lifestyles, extroverts and introverts forced indoors together, and well . . . let’s just say we need some guidance on how to get through this pandemic with our sanity intact. Thankfully,

Mar 30, 2020 • 30:33

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 2: Dr. Hillary McBride’s 7 Steps to Grasp Big Feelings During Hard Times

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 2: Dr. Hillary McBride’s 7 Steps to Grasp Big Feelings During Hard Times

You’re stuck at home with nowhere to go, with people you loved before you learned you were married to the guy who says, “Let’s take this convo offline,” or discovered your human limit for watching Frozen 2 on repeat is approximately 72 hours. When our normal routines get out of whack, so do our bodies—and our minds are soon to follow. Therapist, researcher, and podcaster Dr. Hillary McBride—guest of our most-listened-to episode of 2019—is back to walk us through the stress we’re feeling

Mar 27, 2020 • 37:41

Jo Saxton Unpacks Women’s Stories to Make the World a Better Place

Jo Saxton Unpacks Women’s Stories to Make the World a Better Place

We’re wrapping our Live Podcast series on a high note with leadership trainer, international speaker, and author Jo Saxton. Jo graced us with her guidance in an early podcast series (one of our favorites) called “ For the Love of Women Who Built It.” And now she’s back to share her invaluable work to help women learn to become better leaders in every facet of of their lives. Jo talks about “the hunger of the how” when we are trying to figure out how to be “unstuck” and encourages us to evaluate

Mar 24, 2020 • 1:23:51

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens (and Kings!) Eps 1: Pete The Planner and Finance Fears

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens (and Kings!) Eps 1: Pete The Planner and Finance Fears

The For the Love Podcast is bringing you a series of special episodes as we all face the Coronavirus Pandemic and all the ways it’s impacting our lives. We’ll bring you inspiration, education, practical tips, humor & hope as we all face potential weeks of isolating due to the pandemic. Look for these episodes on Mondays and Fridays while we’re all hunkered down together.  Many of us are worried about the toll to the economy and to our own personal finances as we face reduced hours, changing wor

Mar 23, 2020 • 32:46

Failing, Learning, Beginning Again: For the Love Live With Shauna Niequist

Failing, Learning, Beginning Again: For the Love Live With Shauna Niequist

We’re on the road again with the For the Love Live Podcast Tour! And this stop reunites us with old friend and New York Times bestselling author Shauna Niequist. Shauna fills us in on her family’s big move from the Midwest to New York, and all the rewards and challenges of creating a life in the Big Apple. Shauna also confesses what it’s like to sit across from Queen Oprah while she asks you questions about words that you wrote in your very own book that Oprah herself has read cover to

Mar 17, 2020 • 1:30:45

Laughter, Our Escape Hatch from the Dumpster Fire: Live with The Popcast’s Knox McCoy & Jamie Golden

Laughter, Our Escape Hatch from the Dumpster Fire: Live with The Popcast’s Knox McCoy & Jamie Golden

In the next stop of the For the Love Live Tour, our TV soulmates return! Knox McCoy and Jamie Golden of the ever delightful show, The Popcast, come back to tell us about more things that entertain but do not matter (and a few things that actually do!).  Jen dives into Knox and Jamie’s back story and how they met on the internet back before our parents were on Facebook and people still asked Jeeves a question from time to time—plus they dish on their best business advice for people who w

Mar 10, 2020 • 1:15:19

“Doing Nothing Is No Longer an Option.” – For The Love Live with Austin Channing Brown

“Doing Nothing Is No Longer an Option.” – For The Love Live with Austin Channing Brown

Join us on a virtual road trip for our very first For the Love Live Podcast Tour as Jen criss-crosses the country to talk to some of our very best leaders, teachers, and entertainers about literally everything under the sun. We couldn’t think of anyone we’d want to kick off this series more than friend of the show, Austin Channing Brown. Austin is a writer, a speaker, and an advocate for racial justice. She helps schools, nonprofits, and religious organizations learn to practice genuine

Mar 3, 2020 • 1:26:24

A Call to Openness & Affirmation: A Panel Discussion with LGBTQ+ Faith Leaders

A Call to Openness & Affirmation: A Panel Discussion with LGBTQ+ Faith Leaders

2020’s Faith series has brought us incredible leaders across decades, generations, denominations, and ideologies. We've listened to what makes them excited to be in the faith right now and what's been challenging. We've talked about ways to build a brighter, more beautiful church. As we wrap this series, we're going to dig in a little deeper to one specific place, and we’ve enlisted three faith leaders to help us navigate through a much-needed discussion. And these faith leaders are mem

Feb 25, 2020 • 1:26:03

Love is the Game Changer of Our Faith: Bishop Michael Curry

Love is the Game Changer of Our Faith: Bishop Michael Curry

Our guest in this continuation of our For the Love of Faith Icons series has conducted his faith leadership through a lens of love, sacrifice and goodness. Bishop Michael Curry is here to share his ideologies behind faith and what it means to live a life looking at Jesus. You’ve probably already heard of him without even knowing it: Bishop Curry had the honor of preaching at Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s wedding. Of course, we had to ask him how he kept calm during that AMAZING moment, and he

Feb 18, 2020 • 1:05:51

Beth Moore Guides Us Through the Rocky Soil

Beth Moore Guides Us Through the Rocky Soil

Our For the Love of Faith Icons series wouldn’t be complete without one of Jen’s longtime inspirations and mentors: Beth Moore. After four decades of leadership as an author, speaker, and teacher, Beth has seen a lot and come through a lot, but she gracefully continues to be a relevant voice to new generations of women, helping them navigate the opportunities that have opened up for them, and leading them to push back against old challenges that persistently remain. It might appear that a faith

Feb 4, 2020 • 1:13:05

Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho’s Guide to Political Conversations

Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho’s Guide to Political Conversations

Our For the Love of Faith Icons series is going strong, and this week we’re diving into an issue we’ve probably all struggled with: how to act like a Christian when we’re riled up about our political views. Without even knowing it, each of us has likely been guilty of having the “I’m-right-and-everybody-who-doesn’t-agree-with-me-is-crazy” attitude when it comes to politics. And today, we’re here to get a little help on how we can engage in politics with civility and openness not only as

Jan 28, 2020 • 1:06:52

How to Create a Politics of Love: Lisa Sharon Harper

How to Create a Politics of Love: Lisa Sharon Harper

Are y’all ready to go to church? Because in this episode of our For the Love of Faith Icons series, author and activist Lisa Sharon Harper graces us once again with her singular wisdom and fire—and we are here. for. it. Lisa shares what’s been going on in her work since she appeared on the award-winning episode in 2018 that everyone is still talking about. She helps us make sense of the innumerable tensions we see in the world right now between different communities and shines a light o

Jan 21, 2020 • 1:11:45

Laughing Through Walls of Fear: Patsy Clairmont

Laughing Through Walls of Fear: Patsy Clairmont

It’s full steam ahead in For the Love of Faith Icons, and listen—grab your pens and your Kleenexes, because Jen’s dear friend Patsy Clairmont is equal parts wisdom and pure sunshine (and we want her to adopt us). A beloved speaker and author, Patsy is a founding member of the Women of Faith conferences, which Jen credits as changing the way she thought about women in ministry (Christian women can be *gasp* funny!). Patsy knows a thing or two about opening up and sharing from her own liv

Jan 14, 2020 • 1:08:40

A Faith That Leaves Room for Questions: Andy Stanley 

A Faith That Leaves Room for Questions: Andy Stanley 

Our “For the Love of Faith Icons” series continues with another leader who hails from a famous evangelical family and has blazed a trail to a new understanding of Christianity and where the Bible fits in: pastor, writer and speaker Andy Stanley. As he grew up as a preacher’s kid of a man who has iconic status in his own right, Dr. Charles Stanley, Andy was encouraged to find his own way to God and to ask hard questions without fear of recrimination. This freedom ultimately steered Andy

Jan 7, 2020 • 1:11:41

Max Lucado: The Beauty of Disagreeing Agreeably 

Max Lucado: The Beauty of Disagreeing Agreeably 

It’s a brand-new year, a brand-new decade—and a brand-new series!  “For the Love of Faith Icons” finds Jen talking to some of the most well-loved leaders in the faith, the kinds of folks who have had a chance to see themselves and the world evolve spiritually, and who can handle our biggest questions while admitting they have their own. We couldn’t be more pleased to start off these inspiring and thought-provoking discussions with none other than the beloved pastor and speaker Max Lucad

Dec 31, 2019 • 1:08:09

A Thrill of Hope: Nadia Bolz-Weber Uncovers the Unlikely Miracles of Christmas

A Thrill of Hope: Nadia Bolz-Weber Uncovers the Unlikely Miracles of Christmas

Christmas holds so many truths all at once, as it has for thousands of years. And today, Jen’s friend, pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber, leads us to look with several new lenses at the story we’ve heard since we were toddling around in snowman footie pajamas. There’s the beauty of a young family shepherding a new life into the world, amid brutal oppression from a power-hungry empire. There’s the unwed teenage girl who’s told she will carry the savior of the world while a disdainful religious cul

Dec 24, 2019 • 55:25

From Disney Exec to Dream Facilitator: Dave Hollis Gets Intentional

From Disney Exec to Dream Facilitator: Dave Hollis Gets Intentional

As we continue the conversation about finishing strong for the year, we tap into a resource who clearly maps out a way we all can live happier and with more intention. Our friend Dave Hollis (husband to our other friend, Rachel!) had his dream job as president of distribution for The Walt Disney Company, where he worked 17 years. At the top of his game, Dave left Disney and moved with his family to Austin to form The Hollis Company, so he and Rachel could continue helping people live be

Dec 17, 2019 • 1:01:24

Running Toward the Goal with Abby Wambach 

Running Toward the Goal with Abby Wambach 

We’re kicking it with a legend today on our series For the Love of Finishing Strong: Olympic gold medalist and FIFA World Cup champ (and Jen’s good friend) Abby Wambach! Abby shares her road to soccer stardom and the lessons she picked up from great leaders along the way—like her coach Pia Sundhage, who showed Abby how powerful and holistic feminine leadership can be. Abby takes us on a journey through her life post-soccer and how she’s using structure and discipline in new ways to help

Dec 10, 2019 • 1:05:37

Letting Go of the Past To Embrace Your Future: Lewis Howes

Letting Go of the Past To Embrace Your Future: Lewis Howes

It’s the first episode of our Finishing Strong series!  With the pressure of New Year’s resolutions and “new year, new you” mandates creeping just ‘round the corner, we’d like to focus on finishing this year (and this decade) with a bang, by giving ourselves time for reflection and the space to better wrap our heads around the future, thus absolving us all of that annoying January 1st deadline to fix everything in our lives (feel better? You’re welcome).  And to help us do just that is our guest

Dec 3, 2019 • 45:14

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things: 3rd Annual Holiday Gift Guide

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things: 3rd Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Podcast Land’s giving-est couple Jen & Brandon are back with a slew of great gift ideas for the holidays on our 3rd Annual Hatmaker’s Favorite Things Holiday Gift Guide! Brennifer’s (we’re gonna get that “Super Couple” name to stick) giving us all the warm fuzzies by featuring 16 companies that not only make great products, but give back in significant ways to our communities, to people in need, and to the world. Our team has done the homework so you can feel good about all your gif

Nov 29, 2019 • 1:10:31

Mister Rogers at The Movies: Writers/Producers Noah Harpster & Micah Fitzerman-Blue 

Mister Rogers at The Movies: Writers/Producers Noah Harpster & Micah Fitzerman-Blue 

Hello, neighbor! Today we start a short holiday series that reminds us there’s still so much good in the world, and so much to be thankful for. Speaking of, is there anyone more iconic, more revolutionary, more kind than Fred Rogers? Today we get a behind-the-scenes look at the new movie, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, starring Tom Hanks (!) as Mister Rogers, who was lightyears ahead of his time—and Jen is joined by none other than the writers and executive producers of the movie,

Nov 26, 2019 • 46:22

Armchair Expert-ise with Podcast Creator and Host Monica Padman

Armchair Expert-ise with Podcast Creator and Host Monica Padman

As we wrap up our For the Love of Podcasts series (insert sad face), Jen’s sitting down with the one and only Monica Padman, co-creator and co-host with Dax Shepard of Armchair Expert—aka THE most-downloaded new podcast of 2018. Monica is a creative powerhouse, and today she and Jen go down memory lane to trace Monica’s path from theater major to LA-babysitter-trying-to-land-an-acting-gig to getting a text from Kristen Bell asking if she wanted to watch her five-month-old baby—which, by the way,

Nov 19, 2019 • 1:14:54

This American Life’s Bim Adewunmi on the Magic of Stories Big and Small

This American Life’s Bim Adewunmi on the Magic of Stories Big and Small

Our next episode of For the Love of Podcasts takes us to the gates of one of the most beloved audio shows of all time, NPR’s This American Life. And here to take us by the hand and lead us through the gates is producer Bim Adewunmi! Bim has had a rich media career, working for the BBC, The Guardian, and Buzzfeed News before starting her own podcast called Thirst Aid Kit then joining the ranks of This American Life. Radio was Bim’s first love (she’s had the same radio in her house for tw

Nov 12, 2019 • 1:01:06

Hardcore History’s Dan Carlin Breaks Down History for Our Ears

Hardcore History’s Dan Carlin Breaks Down History for Our Ears

Today we’re cracking open the history textbooks and learning from OG podcaster—we’re talking, 2005 OG—Dan Carlin! Dan’s had a long career in broadcasting and his podcast, Hardcore History, combines gripping moments in history with Twilight Zone-style twists only a master storyteller could pull off. Dan and Jen examine that while we may be players on the world’s stage, we really have no precedent for today’s society. How do we navigate it when there’s nothing in our experiences we can compare i

Nov 5, 2019 • 1:08:18

Retelling Our Past & Future: Podcasters Propaganda, Dr. Alma & BT Harman

Retelling Our Past & Future: Podcasters Propaganda, Dr. Alma & BT Harman

This 4th episode in our For the Love of Podcasts series speaks to the powerful way podcasts can affect change. In fact, we’ve seen podcasts start important conversations and transport us to moments in history we’d have never encountered otherwise. Jen talks to a few of her podcaster friends who are bringing the heat to their spaces: The Red Couch Podcast’s Jason Petty (aka rapper Propaganda) and his wife, Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty, and Catlick’s BT Harman (Brett Trapp!). First, Prop and A

Oct 29, 2019 • 1:26:30

“How To! with Charles Duhigg Podcast” Gets Answers to Life’s Burning Questions

“How To! with Charles Duhigg Podcast” Gets Answers to Life’s Burning Questions

We’re learning truckloads and having a ridiculous amount of fun in our For the Love of Podcasts series—lifehacks abound in these episodes, and especially in the show of our next guest: How To! with Charles Duhigg. Charles is a Pulitzer-winning investigative reporter and NYT bestselling author (who’s disarmingly charming), and he’s come up with a genius way to answer all of life’s “important” questions. Want to manage your anxiety? He’s your guy. Need tips on robbing a bank? Got you cove

Oct 22, 2019 • 49:51

Manage Your Money Like a Boss: The Rachel Cruze Show

Manage Your Money Like a Boss: The Rachel Cruze Show

One of THE best things about podcasts is how we can instantly connect with wise teachers who change our lives for the better. And that’s 100% true for today’s guest, personal finance expert Rachel Cruze! For some of us, throwing around words like “budget” and “401k” is the verbal equivalent of sticking pencils in our eyeballs. But thankfully, Rachel doesn’t have that effect on us. In her podcast and web series, The Rachel Cruze Show, Rachel takes a warm, practical approach to money that

Oct 15, 2019 • 1:05:21

Behind the Scenes with Podcast Queens: The Secret Lives of Black Women

Behind the Scenes with Podcast Queens: The Secret Lives of Black Women

Calling all podcast nerds: today we’re launching a brand-new series celebrating the shows and hosts we love—that’s right, it’s time to kick off For the Love of Podcasts! And today we’re thrilled to bring you two fresh voices who started a new in the summer of 2019  and are just killing it: Charla Lauriston and Lauren Domino from The Secret Lives of Black Women! Charla and Lauren have created a space where they’re inviting all listeners to join, but they’re carving a space where black women can e

Oct 8, 2019 • 1:08:09

Unlocking Our Kids’ Potential: Teachers of the Year Mandy Manning & Sydney Chaffee

Unlocking Our Kids’ Potential: Teachers of the Year Mandy Manning & Sydney Chaffee

We’re wrapping up the Back to School series as we celebrate the heart of our nation’s classrooms: our teachers. There are so many inspiring teachers that we couldn’t narrow down our conversation to just one guest. We had to talk to two very special teachers: the National Teachers of the Year for 2017 and 2018, Sydney Chaffee and Mandy Manning. Mandy’s classroom is in Spokane, WA, where she teaches immigrants and refugees to the US, and Sydney teaches students in Codman, MA, who find the

Oct 1, 2019 • 1:04:45

Tales From Elementary School - 5th Grader Ryan Hickman Gets A Jump On His Dreams

Tales From Elementary School - 5th Grader Ryan Hickman Gets A Jump On His Dreams

We’re still in full swing with our back to school series, and we’ve saved the best of our academic years for last - Elementary School. If you’ve ever been tempted to lose faith in this upcoming crop of youngsters, we’re here to bear witness that these kids are #killingit. Leading the pack are prodigies like 5th Grader Ryan Hickman, who started his own recycling business when he was just three years old (yes, 3!). Ryan’s now 10, and his business is thriving, and his goal, by the time he

Sep 24, 2019 • 36:03

Remy Hatmaker & BFF Ella on Middle School: Juggling Friends, Homework, & Smartphones

Remy Hatmaker & BFF Ella on Middle School: Juggling Friends, Homework, & Smartphones

We’re winding back the clock and revisiting one of the most pivotal times in our lives: middle school. And guiding us through the junior high hallways of 2019 are Jen’s daughter Remy and her very best friend Ella! These girls have weathered middle school and all its new responsibilities, social commitments, and shifting dynamics with so much grace and heart. And they give us the inside scoop on what’s in (TikTok and Snapchat) and what’s out (*gasp* Instagram!), their best advice to their younger

Sep 17, 2019 • 1:01:18

Ben & Caleb Hatmaker Show Us Around High School & Gen Z’s World

Ben & Caleb Hatmaker Show Us Around High School & Gen Z’s World

Hit up your locker and meet us in homeroom because today we’re going back to high school with Jen’s very own two high schoolers, Caleb and Ben Hatmaker. High school is a formative experience for all, and Ben and Caleb’s journey will likely resonate with each of us: making great friends, getting buried under homework, trying to make our parents proud. But it’s eye-opening to learn about what Gen Z is dealing with that we didn’t have to: paralyzing academic pressure, a laser-focused empha

Sep 10, 2019 • 1:24:46

How’s College Life in 2019? Gavin & Sydney Hatmaker Pull Back the Curtain

How’s College Life in 2019? Gavin & Sydney Hatmaker Pull Back the Curtain

Pull out your notebooks and sharpen your pencils, because today we’re starting a brand-new series called For the Love of Back to School! Ahh, school. Some things never change (football games! clubs! writing your entire term paper the night before it’s due!), but today’s kids are dealing with challenges that weren’t around when some of us were younger. We wanted to get the inside scoop on the ways young folks think about school and the world they’re learning to live in, and we’re start

Sep 3, 2019 • 1:14:10

Deconstructing Fake News with MediaWise’s Heaven Taylor-Wynn

Deconstructing Fake News with MediaWise’s Heaven Taylor-Wynn

Remember when newspapers and 3 TV channels were the only ways you consumed the news? That world will never be a reality for our kids—and it’s up to us to teach them to think critically about where they’re getting information and who may be trying to feed it to them. And get excited, parents, because we have a killer partner in this effort: it’s called MediaWise, and it’s a media literacy project that aims to teach 1 million teens how to sort fact from fiction online by 2020. Jen talks to journal

Aug 27, 2019 • 44:27

“The Truth Is Worth It.” – NY Times’ Elizabeth Dias

“The Truth Is Worth It.” – NY Times’ Elizabeth Dias

When we sat down to plan For the Love of Finding the Truth, one of the first names that came to mind was Elizabeth Dias of The New York Times. And for good reason—Elizabeth is one of our best thinkers right now, giving us context for what’s going on at the intersection of politics and religion in America, all the while searching for underrepresented voices that need to be amplified. A decade ago, Elizabeth started her career at Time, sitting down with heavy-hitters like Pope Francis and

Aug 20, 2019 • 1:11:31

Elle.com’s R. Eric Thomas: Truth Is Funnier Than Fiction

Elle.com’s R. Eric Thomas: Truth Is Funnier Than Fiction

“It’s funny ‘cause it’s true!” said Tina Fey on 30 Rock. As in all things, Tina is 100% correct. In our 2nd episode of For the Love of Finding the Truth, Elle.com humor writer R. Eric Thomas and Jen explore humor as a truth-telling device and how we can use comedy to face some of the greatest ideological battles of our time. Eric has a daily column called “Eric Reads the News” where he breaks down the biggest headlines as only a satirist, brunch enthusiast, and Beyoncé Fan Club Presiden

Aug 13, 2019 • 50:39

Left & Right CAN Be Friends: Searching for Truth with Pantsuit Politics’ Beth & Sarah

Left & Right CAN Be Friends: Searching for Truth with Pantsuit Politics’ Beth & Sarah

In the immortal words of Jack Nicholson, can you handle the truth? We think you can, and we’re excited to start a new series that dives into the murky world of truth-telling in our culture today: For the Love of Finding the Truth! Skewing the truth is nothing new—bias exists everywhere—but in the pre-social media era, it was a smidge easier to parse through what was real and what wasn’t. With the massive growth of online communities, there are more ways to get information than ever be

Aug 6, 2019 • 1:13:15

She Should Run: Erin Loos Cutraro’s Vision for Equal Representation

She Should Run: Erin Loos Cutraro’s Vision for Equal Representation

Erin Loos Cutraro has a vision some may describe as bold, but actually, it should be our reality: half of the people running for office should be women (and spoiler alert: women who run win at the same rates as men!). But often, starting when we’re little girls, women don’t see themselves as qualified leaders, or feel they don’t have enough experience, connections, or time to jump into the political arena. Erin is passionate about removing those perceived obstacles and clearing the path for more

Jul 30, 2019 • 1:01:41

Chef Dominique Crenn: Leading with Love In and Out of the Kitchen

Chef Dominique Crenn: Leading with Love In and Out of the Kitchen

If you’ve seen her on the Netflix series Chef’s Table, you know Chef Dominique Crenn is filled with equal parts talent, love, and creative whimsy. Dominique is the chef-proprietor of Atelier Crenn, the San Francisco restaurant she opened nearly a decade ago. And last year Dominique became the first female chef in America to earn three Michelin stars, the highest honor in the food world, all with an eye toward connecting with her guests and ensuring all feel welcome in her space. Raised in the B

Jul 23, 2019 • 47:53

Real-Life ‘Call the Midwife’ in Haiti: Tara Livesay and KJ Johnson

Real-Life ‘Call the Midwife’ in Haiti: Tara Livesay and KJ Johnson

Our series on Powerhouse Women continues with two strong women who are helping women in Haiti get through the most powerful and vulnerable moments they will ever experience: giving birth. Midwives Tara Livesay and KJ Johnson are best friends who work with Heartline Ministries and, like Melinda Gates, they champion maternal care as a human right. As Enneagram 2s, Tara and KJ became fast friends, and they tell Jen why they decided to become midwives, about the birth story that brought them togethe

Jul 16, 2019 • 1:06:03

The Power to Survive, Heal and Succeed: Facebook’s Nona Jones

The Power to Survive, Heal and Succeed: Facebook’s Nona Jones

Nona Jones (Yes Nona, not Norah!) faced a lot of obstacles on her path to becoming a powerhouse woman and now heads up global faith-based partnerships at Facebook. Growing up with a single mom amid trauma and abuse, Nona struggled to see her value or her place in the world. Nona found a community of love and support in her local church, and being accepted and welcomed there began a path toward healing that would change her whole trajectory. She tells Jen how she joined the executive team of a Fo

Jul 9, 2019 • 1:02:39

Even Winners Fail: Sarah Robb O’Hagan

Even Winners Fail: Sarah Robb O’Hagan

By anyone's definition, Sarah Robb O'Hagan is a winning force. She's a brilliant executive, passionate athlete, and bold entrepreneur who’s worked with some of the biggest corporations around: Apple, Virgin Atlantic, Nike, to name a few. And when Sarah was the CEO of Gatorade, she led a huge turnaround that reinvigorated the struggling company. Sarah talks candidly about her winding road to the top, a journey that included more than one time she was let go from a job. She isn’t afraid t

Jul 2, 2019 • 45:25

theSkimm’s Carly Zakin & Danielle Weisberg: Empowerment Through Knowledge

theSkimm’s Carly Zakin & Danielle Weisberg: Empowerment Through Knowledge

We all know knowledge is power. But the power doesn’t just come from what you know—it comes from acting on that knowledge. And for theSkimm’s Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, their mission is to give that power to millennial women and beyond, to arm them with the tools and confidence to take charge of their lives and conquer the world, and they’re doing it all through the media company they founded called theSkimm. When they left their jobs at NBC News in 2012, Carly and Danielle star

Jun 25, 2019 • 54:43

Melinda Gates: The Power of Lifting Up Women

Melinda Gates: The Power of Lifting Up Women

We’re starting strong in our new series For the Love of Powerhouse Women, because we’re joined by one of our personal heroes: Melinda Gates. Kind and wise, Melinda leads the world largest philanthropy, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, to improve the lives of millions of women and children around the world, and she does it all with a listening ear and an equally fierce and gentle spirit. We’re thrilled to talk with her today about her dynamite new book The Moment of Lift. Melinda

Jun 18, 2019 • 55:26

[BONUS] Love, Learning and Leadership with Stedman Graham

[BONUS] Love, Learning and Leadership with Stedman Graham

In this bonus episode as we begin a new series, which features Powerhouse Women, we’re thrilled to visit with someone close to one of the most powerful women on the planet! Stedman Graham is a brilliant business consultant whose clients range from Microsoft to the US Department of Labor. And after talking with him about his latest book, Identity Leadership, we can see why. Stedman reminds us if you want to lead someone else, you need to lead yourself first—and leading yourself means kno

Jun 14, 2019 • 42:49

[BONUS] Celebrating 100 Episodes! For the Love's Favorite Moments & Memories

[BONUS] Celebrating 100 Episodes! For the Love's Favorite Moments & Memories

Break out the champagne and the streamers because today we’re celebrating our 100th episode! To mark this illustrious milestone, Jen is joined by the women behind the podcast: God-sent angel/assistant Amanda Duckett (who had to be heavily bribed to appear on the show), and producer extraordinaire/lover of stats Laura Neutzling. Together the ladies of For the Love dish on the behind-the-scenes shenanigans that have never left their laptops. Learn the secret identity of the first voiceove

Jun 11, 2019 • 1:30:41

It’s Okay to Be a Late Bloomer: Forbes Magazine’s Rich Karlgaard

It’s Okay to Be a Late Bloomer: Forbes Magazine’s Rich Karlgaard

In our fifth and final installment of For the Love of Health & Wellness, we’re exploring the wide world of career health, a huge part of many of our lives that affects us mind, body, and soul. How we spend our days is how we spend our lives, and if you work full-time, you know how much of your day seems to be dedicated to making a living. But what happens when you’re ready for the next step . . . and you don’t know what it is? Whether you’re a young person trying to break into a career or you’re

Jun 4, 2019 • 1:03:52

You Are Worthy of Great Sex (and so much more):  Dr. Celeste Holbrook

You Are Worthy of Great Sex (and so much more):  Dr. Celeste Holbrook

*Since this episode contains mature themes, we recommend listening where kids can’t hear.* We forge ahead in For the Love of Health & Wellness with an important facet of our health we don’t address as openly as we may care to admit: sexual health. Jen sits down with sexologist Dr. Celeste Holbrook, who has dedicated her life to helping women achieve soul-centered sex, and they broach topics many of us might be too timid to bring up. Ever wonder how much sex is normal? It’s in here

May 28, 2019 • 1:05:22

Practicing Kindness for a Healthier Life: Sebastian Terry

Practicing Kindness for a Healthier Life: Sebastian Terry

Let’s get in the driver’s seat of how we’re living, who we’re investing in, and how we’re spending our time as we head into the third episode of For the Love of Health & Wellness. Today we’re looking at the direct connection between living a life of kindness and improving our mental and physical health. Did you know studies show that helping others can reduce early mortality rates by 22%, diminish depression, and increase our sense of life satisfaction and well-being? Author, TV Hos

May 21, 2019 • 1:08:36

Healthy Connections for a Healthy Life: Dr. Danielle Ofri

Healthy Connections for a Healthy Life: Dr. Danielle Ofri

With the second episode of our For the Love of Health & Wellness series, we’re taking a deep dive into physical health—but this is not a “go get your annual physical” guilt trip. We’re talking with a doctor who’s taking a refreshing “body and mind” approach to looking at health, a physician who started a literary journal and decided to learn how to play the cello because she wanted a little more beauty and learning in her life. Dr. Danielle Ofri is a general physician at Bellevue Hospital in New

May 14, 2019 • 52:58

Pursuing Health at Every Size with Nutritionist Haley Goodrich

Pursuing Health at Every Size with Nutritionist Haley Goodrich

We’re thrilled to begin a new series we hope will spur conversations about our body image, health, nutrition and well-being. During For the Love of Health & Wellness, we’re stepping out of the body-shaming space and giving the mic to experts and clinicians who have wise ways to help us take stock of how we’re doing, and adjust those dials to feel a bit better. In this episode, we’re talking food and body with our first guest, nutritionist Haley Goodrich, who we adore for many reason

May 10, 2019 • 1:02:01

Rachel Held Evans Tribute Episode: 2018 Interview “Loving, Leaving & Finding the Church”

Rachel Held Evans Tribute Episode: 2018 Interview “Loving, Leaving & Finding the Church”

We lost a beloved friend, teacher, and true faith groundbreaker this week. Her teachings, writings, and insight into the Christian faith have quietly revolutionized the lives for many whose religious upbringing imposed limits and yielded scars. Because of Rachel, more women than ever have begun pursuing their place in the pulpit. Because of Rachel, the way has been paved for all of us who struggle with questions, doubts and failings in the faith to speak openly about it. Her passing see

May 8, 2019 • 1:04:49

[BONUS] Chrissy Metz from This Is Us and her Breakthrough Moment

[BONUS] Chrissy Metz from This Is Us and her Breakthrough Moment

We always like to mix it up a little bit here in For the Love Podcast world, and we hope you’ll be the happy beneficiaries of this bonus episode! We got the chance to catch up with one of our faves--the beautiful and talented Chrissy Metz--who plays the role of Kate Pearson on the beloved, boo-hoo-every-week hit television show, This Is Us. Chrissy shares a little about how she got her start, and in the process cheers on the late bloomers among us and those who may be tired of living in

May 3, 2019 • 26:16

Rap Artist Lecrae Navigates Injustice & Trauma with Love & Hip-Hop

Rap Artist Lecrae Navigates Injustice & Trauma with Love & Hip-Hop

Coming in to wrap up our For the Love of Faith Groundbreakers series is yet another guest who challenges us to look at our faith differently, a prolific writer, rapper, activist and voice of conscience (and one that’s bound to get us cool points with our kids): GRAMMY Award-winning hip-hop artist Lecrae. Over the years, Lecrae has discovered the most effective leaders for change do so with vulnerability. He candidly tells us about the blowback he received after raising his voice about s

Apr 30, 2019 • 48:05

Pete Enns Adds Color to Our Black & White View of the Bible

Pete Enns Adds Color to Our Black & White View of the Bible

The Bible means many things to many people, and its passages have been interpreted seven ways to Sunday; in turn those interpretations have spawned countless church denominations that all vary in their beliefs. For some, the Bible is the ultimate answer book for anything that life may present. But for others, there are questions that the Bible doesn’t seem to address, or if it does, it’s difficult to always understand the context of those thoughts and how they apply to our present day w

Apr 23, 2019 • 1:07:28

Sarah Bessey:  Life on the Other Side of Being Broken

Sarah Bessey:  Life on the Other Side of Being Broken

Sarah Bessey is the friend we all need, the one who will welcome you with open arms, tuck you under a blanket she knitted herself, and hand you a cup of tea while you talk about the mysteries of life. As a matter of fact, she’s exactly that kind of friend to Jen—and through this episode, you’ll feel the love too. As a beautiful and insightful writer, her books take us through the deconstruction of her faith, with wonderings and wanderings so many of us have had, or may be experiencing now, back

Apr 16, 2019 • 1:13:50

Live Yourself into a New Way of Thinking: Richard Rohr

Live Yourself into a New Way of Thinking: Richard Rohr

Father Richard Rohr is one of our best teachers, hands down. Whether it’s through his work at the Center for Action and Contemplation (which he founded) in Albuquerque, New Mexico, or the many enlightening books he’s written, Fr. Richard is dedicated to helping people realize their best selves, both inwardly and outwardly. A champion for social justice who’s spent decades fighting for equality, he shows us the way to radical compassion by gently leading us to see the world with new eyes

Apr 9, 2019 • 1:06:25

Actually Believing God Loves You Changes Everything: Jeff Chu

Actually Believing God Loves You Changes Everything: Jeff Chu

“Does Jesus really love me?” Journalist Jeff Chu has asked himself this question countless times since he was a kid. Jeff grew up immersed in a family of theologians, where knowing and sticking to the Bible’s rules were prized currency. As Jeff approached high school, he realized he was gay. Over time, while he prayed for God to change who he was, Jeff threw himself into his work to escape his inner turmoil and realized he was a gifted storyteller who loved talking with people from all walks of

Apr 2, 2019 • 1:07:41

The Glory of God in Our Pain: Kaitlin Curtice & the Power of Lament

The Glory of God in Our Pain: Kaitlin Curtice & the Power of Lament

When Kaitlin Curtice speaks, people listen. Raised a Southern Baptist, as she grew older Kaitlin began to explore her family’s rich history in the Potawatomi Citizen Band. Kaitlin tells us what life is like as an indigenous woman in the United States today, how she’s teaching her kids about their heritage and how we can rally around teachers of color during their hardest moments. Kaitlin reminds us we have a responsibility to incorporate a wide range of voices into our world and remembe

Mar 26, 2019 • 1:00:15

Can Faith Withstand Doubt? Mike McHargue’s Journey to Atheism and Back

Can Faith Withstand Doubt? Mike McHargue’s Journey to Atheism and Back

When Mike McHargue, AKA Science Mike of The Liturgists Podcast, stopped by to visit with Jen, we knew we were in for some mind-bending stuff. After all, you don’t go from a Southern Baptist deacon to an atheist back to a follower of Jesus without gaining some wisdom along the way. But in our next installment of For the Love of Faith Groundbreakers, Science Mike helps us understand the kind of God we believe in, whether he is angry or loving, has a profound effect not only on the way we

Mar 19, 2019 • 1:06:35

You Are Wholly Good: Osheta Moore and Embracing “Shalom”

You Are Wholly Good: Osheta Moore and Embracing “Shalom”

We’re thrilled to enter a new series: For the Love of Faith Groundbreakers. In the vein of last year’s “exploring our faith” series, we’re talking with women and men who are taking a fresh, honest look at their faith experiences and blazing new trails when they find the status quo isn’t feeling quite right. Leading us off in this series is Osheta Moore, a writer, speaker, podcaster, and a faith groundbreaker in her own right. Osheta is also a powerful leader on racial reconciliation and

Mar 12, 2019 • 1:07:38

Lady Antebellum’s Hillary Scott on Grace and Good Friends

Lady Antebellum’s Hillary Scott on Grace and Good Friends

You know that warm, happy glow you get after chatting with your friend all night, favorite beverage in hand and deep conversation shared between you? This conversation is one of those happy moments. Jen had the chance to catch up with Lady Antebellum’s Hillary Scott backstage at the San Antonio Stock Show and Rodeo (the most Texas thing ever), and we get to peek behind the curtain and hear what it was like for Hillary to grow up in Nashville with parents who were country music staples (

Mar 5, 2019 • 1:12:50

Amy Grant: Compassion, Community & the Cycles of Life

Amy Grant: Compassion, Community & the Cycles of Life

Say the words “Amy Grant,” and you launch a generation of music lovers into nostalgia. We’ve grown up alongside Amy, haven’t we? Who didn’t sing “Love Will Find a Way” or “Baby, Baby” into their hairbrush? Who didn’t feel a rush of pride when we saw our favorite Christian songstress—someone even our parents approved of—show up on VH1 and Top 40 radio stations? Amy navigated the whirlwind of success that enveloped her and the inevitable criticism it brought from those who thought she had

Feb 26, 2019 • 1:10:20

The Evolution of Martina McBride: From Country Superstar to Food Network Chef

The Evolution of Martina McBride: From Country Superstar to Food Network Chef

We have country music royalty in our midst today, we’re fangirling and we don’t even care—because Martina McBride is our queen! Since she came on the scene in the early 90s, Martina has been a vocal powerhouse ranked among the all-time greatest female performers in country music with hits like “This One’s for the Girls,” “In My Daughter’s Eyes,” “Concrete Angel,” and so many more. Today Martina tells us how she went from singing in her dad’s band in Kansas and selling T-shirts at Garth

Feb 19, 2019 • 46:17

Jennifer Knapp on Music, God, and Speaking Her Truth

Jennifer Knapp on Music, God, and Speaking Her Truth

When Jennifer Knapp broke into Christian music in the 90s, we’d never heard anyone quite like her before. A soulful voice with lyrics to match, Jennifer took the CCM scene by storm—until she stepped out of the spotlight just a few years into her career, after an unrelenting scheduled left her body exhausted and her creative well drained. After a seven-year hiatus, Jennifer came back in full force with a powerful, courageous confession: she is gay and had been in a relationship with a wo

Feb 12, 2019 • 1:04:02

Sandi Patty: The Legendary Christian Singer Finds Her Personal Voice

Sandi Patty: The Legendary Christian Singer Finds Her Personal Voice

You asked, we listened: this is the kick-off episode of our For the Love of Music series! We’ll hear from artists of all stripes and genres, and find out what inspires them to create songs that touch our hearts like nothing else can. No doubt today’s guest has given you goosebumps a time or two. Whether it was her stunning rendition of “The Star Spangled Banner” that launched her to fame in the mid-80s, or when she belted out gospel classics like “We Shall Behold Him,” Sandi Patty is a

Feb 5, 2019 • 1:11:50

Therapy Is a Gift for Everyone: Onsite’s Miles Adcox

Therapy Is a Gift for Everyone: Onsite’s Miles Adcox

One of the bravest, most impactful good changes we can make is to care for our emotional wellness. Each day we carry so many thoughts, memories and dreams that shape the stories we tell about ourselves. When we’re ready to live a new story, or maybe learn a little more about how to better care for ourselves, therapy can be a long-lasting tool to help us take off our mask, heal our shame, and forge a path toward vulnerability and authentic, joyful living. Miles Adcox is the CEO of Onsite

Jan 31, 2019 • 1:05:02

Stuck? Just Do the Next Right Thing: Emily P. Freeman

Stuck? Just Do the Next Right Thing: Emily P. Freeman

When you have no idea what to do next, it feels like you’re drowning in a lake of neverending to-do lists, homework, laundry, and dreams on hold. In a word, it’s *overwhelming.* How do we begin to take charge and find a way out of the chaos? In the words of our next guest: just do the next right thing (FYI: “NEXT” is the key word here!). Writer and podcaster Emily P. Freeman gives us tools to find out what The Next Right Thing is for each us, which is also the title of her insightful po

Jan 24, 2019 • 59:26

Give Yourself the Gift of Done: Jon Acuff

Give Yourself the Gift of Done: Jon Acuff

With the new year comes new pressure to CHANGE. OUR. LIVES. This is the year we’re finally going to lose the weight, finish the project, clean out ALL the closets. Time after time, so many of us find life gets in the way. And when we can’t attain the lofty goals we set for ourselves, we feel like failures. Jon Acuff joins the show to give us permission to finish, even if we only get part of the way there. Jon is the New York Times bestselling author of 6 books, including Finish: Give Y

Jan 15, 2019 • 1:06:56

Undoing the Shame of Our Body Image Struggles: Hillary McBride

Undoing the Shame of Our Body Image Struggles: Hillary McBride

What would our lives be like if we spent less time thinking and talking about the way we look? What If we stopped comparing our bodies and bemoaning our “flaws”? Researchers report 85–95% of women are extremely dissatisfied with their bodies. How can we change this for ourselves? How can we pass down positive messages about female bodies to the next generation of women? Hillary McBride is a therapist and researcher who writes about these questions in her book Mothers, Daughters, and Bo

Jan 8, 2019 • 1:09:08

Small Steps to a Happier Life: Gretchen Rubin

Small Steps to a Happier Life: Gretchen Rubin

Lawyer-turned-writer Gretchen Rubin fancied herself a happy person. She had a job she liked, a husband and two daughters she loved, a life she enjoyed. But one day she found herself wondering, “Could I be happier?” So she set out to change her life—not in a blow-it-all-up-and-move-across-the-world kind of way, but with small steps over one year. Gretchen documented her experiment to live happier in the blockbuster New York Times bestseller The Happiness Project, and has inspired million

Jan 1, 2019 • 53:04

Best of For the Love: Emily Ley on Simplified Living

Best of For the Love: Emily Ley on Simplified Living

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the For the Love team! This week, we’re previewing our brand-new series for the new year, For the Love of Good Change, and bringing back one of our most downloaded episodes (not to mention one of our favorite guests): Emily Ley, author and creator of The Simplified Planner! A busy mom and head of a flourishing company, Emily found that striving for “all the things” left her with no time or energy to enjoy the good stuff. A champion for helping others organ

Dec 25, 2018 • 1:02:03

Angels & Peacemakers: Mending the Divides

Angels & Peacemakers: Mending the Divides

Susan Ramirez and Jon Huckins are giving their all in some of *the* hardest work: lending voices and love to two communities who are suffering deeply. In our last episode of For the Love of Giving, we’re going to talk with Susan and Jon about the problems their communities face, and how we can give our time and privilege to help solve these complex problems. First up, Susan Ramirez is the CEO of National Angels, an org that walks alongside children and their caretakers in the foster car

Dec 18, 2018 • 1:06:38

Ty Pennington Lives (and Gives!) to the Extreme

Ty Pennington Lives (and Gives!) to the Extreme

People give in all kinds of ways. Some give talent. Others give quality time. Some use their influence to shine a light on struggles we need to know about. Our next guest, Ty Pennington, has given in each of these avenues—and shared a few laughs with us along the way! We’ve loved Ty since he lit up our TV screens in the early-2000s (and newly revived!) design series Trading Spaces as the energetic, fun-loving carpenter. Later, Ty was the host of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, where he

Dec 11, 2018 • 47:31

Charity: Water CEO Scott Harrison’s Thirst for Change

Charity: Water CEO Scott Harrison’s Thirst for Change

“What would the opposite of my life look like?” Today’s guest, Charity: Water founder Scott Harrison, was a Jesus kid turned high-end club promoter, with all the luxury and excess that comes with it. Unfulfilled by his pursuit of “more” and desperate for a change, Scott sold everything he owned and joined a non-profit as a photojournalist. What he saw on his journeys changed his life, as he realized a basic need we take for granted—clean water—wasn’t available in many parts of the world

Dec 4, 2018 • 1:00:24

How to Help the Helpers: Pure Charity’s Mike Rusch and Legacy Collective’s Faitth Brooks

How to Help the Helpers: Pure Charity’s Mike Rusch and Legacy Collective’s Faitth Brooks

When Fred Rogers was a boy (stay with us here) and he would see scary things on the news, his mother would tell him, “Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.” Fret not, dear ones: Mr. Rogers’ mother is still right. For this episode in our For the Love of Giving series, we’re thrilled to bring you two people who are helping the helpers and fueling their dreams to change the world. Our first guest, Mike Rusch, is the CEO of Pure Charity, a nonprofit that provide

Nov 27, 2018 • 1:07:35

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things Returns: 2nd Annual Holiday Gift Guide

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things Returns: 2nd Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Back by popular demand, it’s one of our very favorite episodes: the Hatmakers’ Holiday Gift Guide! Our resident gift-giving champ (and Jen’s husband) Brandon is back to highlight twelve companies creating top-shelf products and making a difference in our world. Jen and Brandon dish about gifts for everyone on your list: ladies, gents, kids, foodies, coffee addicts, coworkers, lovers of all things cozy, nature folks, and so much more. And if you’re in the car or at the gym, don’t worry! For each

Nov 21, 2018 • 1:13:43

The Popcast’s Knox McCoy and Jamie Golden: Binge-Watching with Our TV Soulmates

The Popcast’s Knox McCoy and Jamie Golden: Binge-Watching with Our TV Soulmates

You know those friends who know exactly what to watch and never steer you wrong? The friend who had an actual Smoke Monster terrorize guests during LOST watch parties? That other friend who does 7,000-word recaps of The Bachelor? These are (literally) those kinds of friends: Knox McCoy and Jamie Golden! Knox and Jamie are the hosts of The Popcast, a delightful show that, in Knox and Jamie’s words, “educates us on the things that entertain but do not matter.” Today, these pop culture par

Nov 13, 2018 • 1:02:19

Kimmy Schmidt’s Ellie Kemper Dishes on The Office, Tina Fey, and Her Squirrel Days

Kimmy Schmidt’s Ellie Kemper Dishes on The Office, Tina Fey, and Her Squirrel Days

Between her roles in The Office and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, you knew Ellie Kemper had to be delightful in real life—and we’re thrilled to confirm you’re absolutely right! Today Ellie joins our For the Love of TV series, as we continue to dive into the personalities and the “behind the screens” perspectives of some of our favorite TV people! Come along with Jen as we hear about Ellie’s roots in St. Louis and getting high school improv classes from Jon Hamm (yep, THE Don Draper . . . a

Nov 6, 2018 • 1:04:29

Kimberly Williams-Paisley: Lighting Up Our TV Screens and Her World

Kimberly Williams-Paisley: Lighting Up Our TV Screens and Her World

This week we’re rolling out the red carpet for a woman with a ton of talent and a heart of gold: Jen’s delightful friend, actor Kimberly Williams-Paisley! You’ve seen Kim in TV and movies since the ‘90s when she got her breakthrough role in Father of the Bride as Steve Martin and Diane Keaton’s onscreen daughter Annie Banks. More recently you’ve seen Kim playing bad-girl Peggy Kenter in Nashville and her stints in fun Hallmark movies like Darrow & Darrow. Jen and Kim dish about the

Oct 30, 2018 • 1:03:41

The Good Place’s Jameela Jamil: Loving Your Body, No Filter Required.

The Good Place’s Jameela Jamil: Loving Your Body, No Filter Required.

It’s not every day that you find a hilarious TV show that features moral philosophers and tries to answer “What does it mean to be a good person?” But then again, not every show is NBC’s The Good Place. And today on For the Love, we’re over-the-top thrilled to have Tahani herself, actor Jameela Jamil! Just like the show she works on, Jameela is kind and smart, brilliant and inquisitive. You’ll love Jameela’s humor and wisdom as she traces her journey from growing up in London to working

Oct 23, 2018 • 58:07

Kathie Lee Gifford: Getting Real with a Morning TV Icon

Kathie Lee Gifford: Getting Real with a Morning TV Icon

Put on your yoga pants and grab some popcorn, because today, ladies and gents, we start a brand-new series: For the Love of TV! And there’s no one better to hold court on our first episode than the Queen of Daytime TV herself, Kathie Lee Gifford! Swapping stories with Kathie Lee is a delight, and we hear about it all: Kathie Lee’s roots in the Christian music industry, her road to ratings darling Live! with Regis & Kathie Lee, her marriage with Frank Gifford, and some of Kathie Lee’

Oct 16, 2018 • 46:01

[BONUS] Reaching Across The Aisle: Beto O'Rourke and Pantsuit Politics

[BONUS] Reaching Across The Aisle: Beto O'Rourke and Pantsuit Politics

It’s been bananas in the political sphere the past few years, but you knew that. You may not think you have a voice in any of the chaos, but frankly you do—because We The People get to decide who represents us and our values. Your thoughts, your ideas—they have power. And one of the most effective ways to exercise your power is to vote. 2018 midterm elections are approaching around the country on every level: local, state, and national. Our show doesn’t focus on politics, but if you’re

Oct 11, 2018 • 1:24:49

Ask Jen! All Your Book and Writing Questions Answered

Ask Jen! All Your Book and Writing Questions Answered

What was the hardest book for Jen to write? How’s the new book coming along? How on earth do we dip a toe into the publishing waters? And when is she going to write us a cookbook?! No doubt each of us in the For the Love community has had a question or two for our host. And while Jen normally asks the questions, today we turn the tables and give FTL listeners the mic! We asked you to send your book and writing questions, and you delivered some practical and thought-provoking conversatio

Oct 9, 2018 • 1:19:27

Piecing Shattered Dreams into a Beautiful Story: Shannan Martin

Piecing Shattered Dreams into a Beautiful Story: Shannan Martin

When we’re kids, we each think about the lives we want when we’re older. What if you worked hard for years to make that dream—a loving husband, doting children, a farmhouse with a literal white-picket fence—a reality? And then, all of a sudden, you’re picking the shards of your realized childhood dream off the ground? That’s what happened to Shannan Martin—and she couldn’t be more thankful. Shannan is a writer and speaker from Goshen, Indiana, who is one of Jen’s literal favorite people. Today w

Oct 2, 2018 • 1:09:00

Tell Me More, Kelly Corrigan: A Live Show with the Poet Laureate of the Ordinary

Tell Me More, Kelly Corrigan: A Live Show with the Poet Laureate of the Ordinary

This is a special week in For the Love world, because it’s our very first live podcast! A few weeks ago, Jen and author Kelly Corrigan hosted 150 women in Jen’s backyard in Buda, Texas, and today we get to share this conversation with you, our beloved For the Love listeners. Kelly is the New York Times bestselling author of four books, including The Middle Place and her latest Tell Me More: Stories About the 12 Hardest Things I’m Learning to Say. In this live episode, Jen and Kelly talk

Sep 25, 2018 • 1:30:06

Writing from Opposite Sides: Jodi Picoult Asks the Big Questions

Writing from Opposite Sides: Jodi Picoult Asks the Big Questions

We’re forging ahead in our For the Love of Books series, and today we host one of the most distinctive and decorated novelists of our time, a woman who challenges us to chew on why we believe what we believe: New York Times bestselling author Jodi Picoult. For more than twenty years, Jodi has brought us novels filled with moral questions, and has presented fully-fledged characters we find ourselves having empathy for, even if we don’t agree with their choices. Jodi models this mindset in her own

Sep 18, 2018 • 1:10:32

Books as Mirrors and Windows: Kwame Alexander’s Identity Through Words

Books as Mirrors and Windows: Kwame Alexander’s Identity Through Words

Our book series is in full swing, and we’re loving the conversations about reading and how words help us voice what really matters to us! This week’s guest is author, poet, and educator Kwame Alexander. And if you’ve never been into poetry, Kwame is here to change your view. He believes poetry is powerful enough to change the world, inspire our youth—even woo a spouse (He wrote his now-wife Stephanie a poem a day for a year. Let the collective swooning begin!). Kwame is the New York Tim

Sep 11, 2018 • 56:59

Use Your Words to Raise Your Voice with Kathy Khang

Use Your Words to Raise Your Voice with Kathy Khang

There's never been a time when words matter more. They have the force to spark ideas, to build, to topple the status quo. Words enter the world when you use your voice. But what is your voice? For some of us, we're not even sure what our voice sounds like, let alone how to use it. That’s why we’re pleased to welcome writer Kathy Khang, our second guest in the For the Love of Books series. Kathy has struggled with speaking out for her entire life. And despite having so many things to say

Sep 4, 2018 • 1:10:28

Bringing Your Story to Life: Imperfect Courage with Jessica Honegger

Bringing Your Story to Life: Imperfect Courage with Jessica Honegger

Welcome to a brand spanking new series that we are just tickled to launch—For the Love of Books! It’s not like we don’t talk about books all the time anyway, but now we’re dedicating an entire series to officially having amazing conversations with writers, storytellers, lovers of books, and today’s guest, who’s a first-time author: Jessica Honegger from Noonday Collection! Ever wonder how the writing process takes place? How to go from an idea in your head to holding your book in your h

Aug 28, 2018 • 58:30

Purposeful Parenting: Two Determined Mamas Talk Fostering, Adoption, and Special Needs

Purposeful Parenting: Two Determined Mamas Talk Fostering, Adoption, and Special Needs

Our Parenting series wraps up with an episode that our tribe has requested overwhelmingly. As parents, we are all doing the best we can to raise great kids. But what about the challenges we didn’t expect? What about the kids who have been left behind? This week, we talked to two mamas who gave us insight into a whole other realm of parenting that requires a special resilience. Jami Amerine and her husband Justin have six kids; four biological, and two adopted. Jami tells us about her beautiful b

Aug 21, 2018 • 1:17:07

Working Moms Stretched Too Thin: Jessica Turner On Work-Life Satisfaction

Working Moms Stretched Too Thin: Jessica Turner On Work-Life Satisfaction

Over 70% of moms in America work, and let’s face it: they’re pulled in a thousand directions. More than ever, the pressure is sky high to do All The Things well: birthday parties, presentations, laundry, answering emails. There hardly seems time to keep everyone fed and clothed, let alone investing in self-care and meaningful relationships. As a full-time employee in Corporate America, writer Jessica Turner knows the struggle is real. Today she sits down with Jen to discuss practical ways moms c

Aug 14, 2018 • 1:13:01

Jen’s Parents Tell It All: Real-Time Parenting with Larry & Jana King PART 2

Jen’s Parents Tell It All: Real-Time Parenting with Larry & Jana King PART 2

It’s the second half of the epic interview with Jana and Larry King—AKA Jen’s very own parents! In this part of the chat, Jana and Larry dish parenting gold as they talk about solutions for sibling rivalry, how to make tough parenting calls, how to weather tough storms with your adult kids, and the travesty of Jen not having a cool nickname growing up. And stay tuned ‘til the end for the best part of the interview—and grab your tissues while you’re at it. And if you missed Part 1, go ba

Aug 7, 2018 • 58:09

Jen’s Parents Tell It All: Real-Time Parenting with Larry & Jana King PART 1

Jen’s Parents Tell It All: Real-Time Parenting with Larry & Jana King PART 1

This episode is an important chapter in For the Love Podcast history, because we have the most exceptional parenting experts on the show: Jen’s own parents! Jana and Larry King have been married for forty-seven years and had four children, and they’ve seen a few things!  Jana, a retired teacher and school administrator, and Larry, a retired minister, take listener questions, and dish out the true scoop on Jen, her siblings and real-life parenting. Toddler years, teen years, sibling riva

Aug 3, 2018 • 1:04:30

Parenting Through All Stages: When to Hold On & When to Let Go, with Dr. Jim Burns

Parenting Through All Stages: When to Hold On & When to Let Go, with Dr. Jim Burns

Parenting is a lifelong job, even after our children have flown the coop and are tending their own broods. Throughout the various stages, from the early “no sleep” baby years to the endless carpool years, we barely have the bandwidth to think about next week, let alone the next few decades. But what happens when our kids grow up and start making their own decisions? How do parents lay the groundwork for happy, healthy relationships with their adult children? And how do we, as daughters

Jul 31, 2018 • 1:14:55

TV (and Real Life) Mom Candace Cameron’s Path to Gracious Parenting

TV (and Real Life) Mom Candace Cameron’s Path to Gracious Parenting

From your mouth to Jen’s headphones, we’re starting a brand-new series you requested: For the Love of Parenting! This series will not only speak to those of us who are in the thick of parenting kids at every stage, but for those of us who are learning to honor our parents as adults and come alongside our friends with kids. Our first guest is actor and author Candace Cameron Buré, who was famously parented in the beloved sitcom Full House and is now the one doing the parenting in Netflix’s Fuller

Jul 24, 2018 • 53:17

Making Summer Camp Magic Last a Lifetime: Stacy and Darell Smith

Making Summer Camp Magic Last a Lifetime: Stacy and Darell Smith

Nearly forty years ago, they met at camp. Then they got married. Now they’re running the same camp! This week, we’re closing out For the Love of Summer with our crowdsourced episode, featuring Stacy and Darell Smith. For more than thirty years, Stacy and Darell have been directors at The Firs, a Christian camp organization in gorgeous Bellingham, Washington. And they have seen it all: kid tomfoolery, pet shenanigans, pranks galore. They’ve even rigged dates between their camp counselors

Jul 17, 2018 • 1:00:16

De-Stressing Summer Fashion with ModCloth’s Lizz Wasserman

De-Stressing Summer Fashion with ModCloth’s Lizz Wasserman

School’s out, the pool/beach/lake is calling, and vacation is just around the corner. For many of us, summer fashion means flip flops, sundresses and living in our bathing suits. For others, summer clothing choices, where often “less is more,” can cause a case of the summer blues.  Today’s guest gives us pro-tips that will help EVERY body to make fun, fashionable and affordable summer choices for all the things we love about summer. Lizz Wasserman is VP of Fashion at ModCloth, a forward thinking

Jul 10, 2018 • 49:17

You, A Book & A Beach: Must-Have Summer Reads from Modern Mrs. Darcy’s Anne Bogel

You, A Book & A Beach: Must-Have Summer Reads from Modern Mrs. Darcy’s Anne Bogel

Summertime is book time. Whether you’re by the pool, on a road trip, clutching your pearls in the AC, or on a cruise (#jealous), now’s the time to escape. And there’s no one better for book talk than Anne Bogel, author and founder of Modern Mrs. Darcy, the loveliest reading and lifestyle blog you ever did see. Anne stopped by to tell us a few of her favorite summer reads, and we covered it all: classic beach reads, family sagas, thrillers, nonfiction, books for all the kids, and even An

Jul 3, 2018 • 59:34

Living a Hands Free Summer with Rachel Macy Stafford

Living a Hands Free Summer with Rachel Macy Stafford

Rachel Macy Stafford was missing life. Her planner bulged, her phone buzzed, her calendar constantly full. In a painful moment of realization, Rachel discovered she was choosing distraction over connection with her young family—and she decided enough was enough. In 2010, she started the Hands Free Mama blog, where she documents her journey to slow down and focus on what truly matters. Since then Rachel has become the New York Times bestselling author of three books: Hands Free Mama, Hands Free L

Jun 26, 2018 • 55:39

Travelling the World with Kids Can be Fun: Tsh Oxenreider’s Summer Trip Tips

Travelling the World with Kids Can be Fun: Tsh Oxenreider’s Summer Trip Tips

If there were ever a family travel expert, it’s Tsh Oxenreider. In 2014, Tsh and her husband Kyle sold their house, put all their stuff in storage, and went on an almost year-long trip around the world with their three kids—ages four, six, and nine. Tsh wrote this experience in her phenomenal travel memoir At Home in the World. Today, Tsh kicks off our “For the Love of Summer” series and tells us about her fascinating trip around the globe. She also gives some practical tools to help us

Jun 19, 2018 • 1:04:52

Advocating for Humanity: Blue Babies Pink's Brett Trapp on Reconciling (and Honoring) Who He Is

Advocating for Humanity: Blue Babies Pink's Brett Trapp on Reconciling (and Honoring) Who He Is

It’s the final episode in the “For the Love of Exploring Our Faith” series, and you guys begged to hear from this week’s guest. Not that we blame you—we love him, too! Brett Trapp is a marketing consultant and storyteller who lives in Atlanta’s Cabbagetown neighborhood. The son of a Southern Baptist preacher from small-town Alabama, for more than a decade Brett kept a journal on being Christian and being gay. One morning in 2016, Brett hopped on Facebook and began sharing the story he h

Jun 12, 2018 • 1:05:31

Learning to Walk in the Dark with Barbara Brown Taylor

Learning to Walk in the Dark with Barbara Brown Taylor

What is saving our life right now? Having the matriarch of our favorite question as part of our “Exploring Our Faith” series this week!  Barbara Brown Taylor is a New York Times best-selling author, teacher, and Episcopal priest. Her last book, Learning to Walk in the Dark (2014), was featured on the cover of TIME magazine.  In 2014. TIME also included her on its annual list of Most Influential People.  Long a favorite author of Jen’s, Barbara has a unique way of sharing essential truth

Jun 6, 2018 • 56:27

Loving, Leaving & Finding the Church with Rachel Held Evans 

Loving, Leaving & Finding the Church with Rachel Held Evans 

This week we’re coming in strong in our For the Love of Exploring our Faith series with New York Times bestselling author, speaker and self-proclaimed “Bible Nerd,” Rachel Held Evans. Rachel’s writings have resonated with many of us who have walked through doubts, questions and concerns about faith and religion. Rachel shows how the Bible can hold up to our fiercest questions, our strongest doubts and the most significant of disagreements.  She encourages us that “God is not a God of se

May 29, 2018 • 1:08:06

“Me? Love Them?” Loving Everybody Always with Bob Goff

“Me? Love Them?” Loving Everybody Always with Bob Goff

We’re 5 episodes into our “For the Love of Exploring Our Faith” Series and the Christian guru of love himself, Bob Goff, joins Jen on the show this week. Bob’s journey has been one of taking risks, defying norms, and living by faith. A self-proclaimed “recovering lawyer,” Bob left his practice after 25 years to embark on a path of love. He wrote a book about his journey to and from that point called Everybody Always which became a staple to Christians (and others) about what it means to

May 22, 2018 • 58:52

Knowing Where We’ve Been To Get Where We’re Going: Austin Channing Brown

Knowing Where We’ve Been To Get Where We’re Going: Austin Channing Brown

We continue to explore our faith in Eps 4 of this series with writer and speaker AUSTIN CHANNING BROWN. Austin is a practitioner who helps schools, nonprofits, and religious organizations confront racism and practice genuine inclusion. Her writing has appeared in outlets like Christianity Today, Relevant, Sojourners, and The Christian Century. Austin insists that to make significant strides, “We have to know where we've been—before we can figure out where it is we're going." Austin and

May 15, 2018 • 1:05:23

Politics, Faith & Open Hearts with Joshua DuBois

Politics, Faith & Open Hearts with Joshua DuBois

Our powerful series “For the Love of Exploring Our Faith” continues with author, community leader and story-teller Josh DuBois. Josh has had the unique role of being “The President’s Pastor In Chief” during Barack Obama’s early years of presidency. He spearheaded important work on responsible fatherhood, grassroots community partnerships and foreign affairs. From there, he’s dedicated his life to help companies, individuals and communities navigate tough issues related to race and relig

May 8, 2018 • 1:10:04

Know Thyself:  Faith & The Enneagram with Ian Morgan Cron

Know Thyself: Faith & The Enneagram with Ian Morgan Cron

The Enneagram has surged back into popular culture the last couple of years. This personality test is marked by its unique (and ancient) principles that help us better understand ourselves. Unless you’ve been under a rock, you’ve probably heard “number thumpers” talk in terms of their type; “Oh, that is totally such a ‘seven’ thing to say.’” Therapist, Episcopal priest, speaker and Enneagram expert Ian Morgan Cron joins us for Eps 2 of For the Love of Exploring Our Faith. Ian walks us t

Apr 30, 2018 • 1:06:13

Unequally Saved: The Church's Role in Racism with Lisa Sharon Harper

Unequally Saved: The Church's Role in Racism with Lisa Sharon Harper

We have a powerful start to a brand-new series: For the Love of Exploring Our Faith. Speaker, writer and activist Lisa Sharon Harper comes from a long line of Americans—African-Americans who have been in America since 1687. Slavery existed in her family. Lisa wrestles with the Good News of the Gospel and how that translates to folks who have been victims of race-motivated atrocities—from people who claimed that Gospel as their truth. She walks us through the history of evangelism and wh

Apr 24, 2018 • 1:08:40

Amy Poehler’s Smart Girls Co-Founder Meredith Walker on the Unscripted Path

Amy Poehler’s Smart Girls Co-Founder Meredith Walker on the Unscripted Path

Closing out our For the Love of Women Who Built series, we have Meredith Walker, the Co-Founder of Amy Poehler’s Smart Girls, an organization which is dedicated to helping young people cultivate their authentic selves. They emphasize intelligence and imagination over “fitting in.” Meredith Walker began her television career producing the Peabody and Emmy award-winning Nick News with Linda Ellerbee, and then went on to head up the talent department for Saturday Night Live, where she met

Apr 17, 2018 • 1:08:42

Sara Cunningham Gives “Free Mom Hugs” to LGBTQ Community

Sara Cunningham Gives “Free Mom Hugs” to LGBTQ Community

You spoke—we listened. Sara Cunningham was your nominee from the tribe for the last episode of our “Women Who Built It,” series and we couldn’t be more thrilled to hear about what she is building.  When Sara’s son came to her with the decision that he was going to live as a gay man on his 21st birthday, Sara’s life went into a tailspin. After 20 years in the church and actively “praying the gay away,” with and on behalf of her son, she was at a crossroads. Her search for resources as a

Apr 10, 2018 • 1:06:11

Latasha Morrison: Building Bridges Through Black and White Conversations

Latasha Morrison: Building Bridges Through Black and White Conversations

Our fabulous “Women Who Built It” series continues with the founder of Be The Bridge, Latasha Morrison. Latasha’s mission is to encourage racial reconciliation among all ethnicities, to promote racial unity in America, and to develop others to do the same.  She facilitates “Be The Bridge Groups” that provide a “safe place for white people and a safe place for people of color to communicate and share their hearts.” She and Jen share about the incredible experiences they’ve had by being a

Mar 28, 2018 • 1:00:30

A Time to Lead, A Time to Follow: Nicole Walters on Chasing The Next Thing

A Time to Lead, A Time to Follow: Nicole Walters on Chasing The Next Thing

Episode 3 of the “For The Love of Women Who Built It" series features the feisty and funny Nicole Walters. At just 28 years old, Nicole was a top-selling executive at Fortune 500's and was managing multi-billion dollar business relationships for an S&P International healthcare organization. With a six-figure salary, first-class flights, and fancy hotels, she thought she had arrived. She shares with us that her  real “arrival” came when a family crisis jolted her into the realization

Mar 20, 2018 • 1:04:58

Becca Stevens of Thistle Farms: An Enterprise for Women Built On Love

Becca Stevens of Thistle Farms: An Enterprise for Women Built On Love

Episode 2 in our “For the Love of Women Who Built It” features the fearless and heroic (CNN even awarded her with nomination as a 2017 CNN Hero) Becca Stevens, the president and founder of Thistle Farms. Becca describes her “aha” moment 21 years ago when she no longer could stay quiet about what she was seeing regarding women who were subject to sex trafficking and abuse (before “trafficking” was even a widely-used term). She started the organization with the Magdalene Center which welcomed wome

Mar 13, 2018 • 1:02:02

Leading Where You Live: Jo Saxton on Knowing Your Influence

Leading Where You Live: Jo Saxton on Knowing Your Influence

It’s new series time, and we’re excited about this 6-part series featuring “Women Who Built It.” This series is filled with women who are slaying in their careers. They’re building amazing spaces in business, ministry, and culture, and they’re here to share with us the triumphs, heartaches and leaps of faith it took to build something important. Our first guest is Jo Saxton, one of Jen’s heroes in the leadership space. She’s an international speaker and an author who has a deep passion

Mar 6, 2018 • 1:04:07

Eat Cake and Be Brave: Melissa Radke's Funny Formula for Life

Eat Cake and Be Brave: Melissa Radke's Funny Formula for Life

We close out with a last laugh in our "For the Love of Laughter" series with none other than one of our own. We asked you:  "Who's funny? Who is that funny person we should absolutely have on the podcast?" And you responded--Melissa Radke!  Melissa is that funny friend who wryly observes all the things in life that we face as women and moms, and takes them to task--hilariously head on. Whether it's struggling with "Mom Guilt," or trying to make logical the complexities of "Red Ribbon We

Feb 27, 2018 • 1:00:10

It’s Okay To Laugh: Comedian John Crist

It’s Okay To Laugh: Comedian John Crist

John Crist has a gift for making us laugh at ourselves. John was the middle child in a family of 8 kids and found his comedic sensibilities while growing up in the church. His humor gently pokes fun at some of our religious “sacred cows,” and gives us permission to laugh at our foibles. His videos (which collectively have garnered over 150 million views) around these topics are spot on, including: “Millennial International” and “Church Hunters.” John doesn’t reserve his brand of humor j

Feb 21, 2018 • 59:55

“God Wants Me to Tell Jokes??”: Anjelah​ Johnson’s Divine Comedic Rise

“God Wants Me to Tell Jokes??”: Anjelah​ Johnson’s Divine Comedic Rise

Anjelah Johnson didn’t always want to be a comedian. Her dream was to be an actress, and after a short stint as an Oakland Raiders cheerleader, she followed that path to L.A. With a lot of time on her hands, and no leads in sight, she did a lot of praying and a lot of waiting. Persuaded by a friend to take a free joke-telling class they were offering at her church, Anjelah tried her hand at her first comedy bit called “Nail Salon,” and suddenly found herself to be an overnight YouTube sensation.

Feb 13, 2018 • 55:07

Behind the Laughter with “Chewbacca Mom” Candace Payne

Behind the Laughter with “Chewbacca Mom” Candace Payne

Episode 2 of our “For the Love of Laughter” series features “Chewbacca Mom” herself - Candace Payne! You may remember a little video of a mom in her car who bought a Star Wars Chewbacca Mask (presumably for her kids), but was so entertained by it herself, she couldn’t stop laughing! Candace and her infectious laugh went on to capture America’s hearts (with over 175+million views), and she has since been on a slew of talk shows including Good Morning America, The Late, Late Show with Jam

Feb 6, 2018 • 1:03:02

The Heart of Humor with Kevin Nealon & Susan Yeagley

The Heart of Humor with Kevin Nealon & Susan Yeagley

This week we start a brand new series - For the Love of Laughter! Jen’s love for comedy inspired this series, and with all we have going in our world today, it seemed like the perfect time for a good guffaw. Our guests this week are comedian and SNL alum Kevin Nealon and his wife, Parks & Rec actress Susan Yeagley.  Kevin and Susan discuss how they got into the business of comedy, and the heart behind their love of laughter. We’ll also hear what it’s like when two funny people are m

Jan 29, 2018 • 1:04:03

It’s Never Too Late To Start Over: Donna Cheek & Sheila Lynch From Glory Haus

It’s Never Too Late To Start Over: Donna Cheek & Sheila Lynch From Glory Haus

We’re wrapping up our “For the Love of New Beginnings” Series, and we’ll just warn you, episode 5 may involve a tear or two. Our guests this week, as always for the last episode in a series, are straight from Jen’s tribe. Jen had occasion to meet Donna Cheek, a designer at Glory Haus home furnishings, during a visit to the company a few years ago. Donna’s life had never been easy; from growing up in an alcoholic home, to battling with chronic illness and ultimately facing homelessness. You’ll he

Jan 23, 2018 • 49:54

From Turkey Burner to Entrepreneur: Embracing Your Potential with Rachel Hollis

From Turkey Burner to Entrepreneur: Embracing Your Potential with Rachel Hollis

This week on episode 4 of our “For the Love of New Beginnings” series, Jen talks with the amazing Rachel Hollis, founder of the lifestyle website TheChicSite.com and CEO of her own media company, Chic Media.  Rachel shares the auspicious beginnings of her company that was basically inspired by a moment where her Thanksgiving turkey caught fire. She goes on to detail how she reinvented herself from turkey burner to entrepreneur and the life-changing journey toward believing in herself.

Jan 16, 2018 • 1:07:06

Creating Connection in the New Year: Kristin Schell & The Turquoise Table

Creating Connection in the New Year: Kristin Schell & The Turquoise Table

It’s Episode #3 of our phenomenal “For the Love of New Beginnings” Series. This week, Jen talks to Kristin Schell, the author of The Turquoise Table and leader of the Front Yard People movement. Kristin shares how she was longing for connection and belonging in her community and was struck by the realization that she didn’t know many of her neighbors, their names or much less their stories. This moved her to take a step toward that connection, and she started with a brightly colored tur

Jan 9, 2018 • 55:47

Finding The Way to Your True Self: Enneagram Expert Chris Heuertz

Finding The Way to Your True Self: Enneagram Expert Chris Heuertz

Our “For the Love of New Beginnings” series continues strong with Enneagram expert Chris Heuertz. Are you a 2 (The Helper) or perhaps an 8 (The Challenger)? Or maybe a 3 (The Achiever), like Jen? If you don’t know what the heck we’re talking about, we’re here to help. Chris has written a new book called The Sacred Enneagram: Finding Your Unique Path to Spiritual Growth and shares why The Enneagram is one of the most powerful and insightful tools for understanding ourselves and others. J

Jan 2, 2018 • 1:04:42

Emily Ley: Creating Space for Joy with Simplified Living

Emily Ley: Creating Space for Joy with Simplified Living

Happy New Year and Happy New Series;  For the Love of New Beginnings!  We’re going to dive into the top of the year with guests who have had to start over, re-invent themselves, embrace new seasons, refresh or reset; and we'll learn first-hand how they navigated it. Episode one’s guest is Emily Ley;  author and creator of The Simplified Planner.  A busy Mom (3 kids under 6, including toddler twins) and head of a flourishing company, Emily found that striving for “all the things” was lea

Dec 26, 2017 • 1:01:50

Open Homes and Open Hearts: A Christmas Story From the Tribe

Open Homes and Open Hearts: A Christmas Story From the Tribe

To close out our "For the Love of Fall & Holidays" series, we have a story from one of our own from the Tribe. We asked you to tell us about someone you knew who was opening their hearts, homes and tables to others during the holidays in unique and amazing ways, and Jacob & Peggy Smith were the ones who came shining through. A young couple married for only 2 years, Jacob & Peggy had been raised in environments where fostering children was a huge priority. When they encounter

Dec 19, 2017 • 51:42

Dr. Henry Cloud & John Townsend: Wise Men [and Women] Bring Gifts of Boundaries at the Holidays

Dr. Henry Cloud & John Townsend: Wise Men [and Women] Bring Gifts of Boundaries at the Holidays

It's the most wonderful (and volatile) time of the year and this fourth episode in our "For the Love of Fall & Holidays" series is a can't-miss. If your holiday routine has become a pattern of stretching yourself too thin, tirelessly trying to please relatives and friends, taking care of others at the expense of your own sanity and, thus, turning the holidays into a season of dread, you'll want to carve out some time for this episode.  Before the whirlwind of travel, family gatherin

Dec 11, 2017 • 1:27:39

Must-Have Fall & Holiday Fashion For Every Body with Evereve

Must-Have Fall & Holiday Fashion For Every Body with Evereve

It’s the most wonderful time of the year and amidst the swirl of shopping, cooking, traveling, parties and endless holiday activities—none of us have time to be asking the question…”whatever will I wear?” Looking good while doing all the holiday things doesn’t have to hard! Megan Tamte and Kristina Klockars, founders of the popular retail clothing store Evereve, have built their business on making fashion accessible to all women, catering specifically to moms who may struggle with a fas

Dec 6, 2017 • 45:07

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things: 1st Annual Holiday Gift Guide

[BONUS] The Hatmakers' Favorite Things: 1st Annual Holiday Gift Guide

Jen and her husband Brandon, who she dubs as the “heavyweight champion of gift giving,” record a special podcast together to discuss their favorite gift giving ideas for 2017!  PLUS hear behind-the-scenes stories about Jen’s many earnest attempts to compete with Brandon in the gift giving department -- with hilarious results. Whether you are an amazing gift giver or if you suffer from gift-giving anxiety, we've got so many incredible gift ideas for the people you care about this year. The produc

Nov 30, 2017 • 1:04:03

Football, Fashion & Fun with Melanie Shankle

Football, Fashion & Fun with Melanie Shankle

Jen has an epic chat with one of her favorite fellow fall football fans--New York Times bestselling author, Melanie Shankle. You won't want to miss their school song sing-off, their thoughts on game day foods, and learning why Melanie actually stayed in college longer than she had to [next level football fandom].  They'll also discuss fall fashion and how some trends elude them (just say "no" to Mom Jeans). They'll also discuss how teens now are different than their teen selves in the 8

Nov 28, 2017 • 55:24

Dishing with The Pioneer Woman: Ree Drummond

Dishing with The Pioneer Woman: Ree Drummond

What’s more fun than perusing fall recipes from a Pioneer Woman cookbook on a chilly fall day? Actually talking with the Pioneer Woman!  Ree Drummond, the Pioneer Woman herself, joins the show this week! She and Jen dish about fall football, ranch life, kids going off to college (single tear), and the one food item that will never be included in a Pioneer Woman recipe. Ree also shares the joys and challenges of managing all things "Pioneer Woman” (The cookbooks! The restaurant! The TV show! The

Nov 21, 2017 • 1:08:21

The Tribe at The Table

The Tribe at The Table

We’re wrapping up our “For the Love of Food” series with stories from you--Jen’s Tribe--of how you're gathering with food in the best possible ways!  Tanorria Askew quit her corporate job and followed her cooking dreams—she made it to the final 4 of Master Chef (with big kudos from Gordon Ramsay, no less) and now has established Tanorria’s Table, a personal chef company with a heart for community and a soul for diversity. Elyse, Suzanna and Lauren are friends who have found the secret of life ar

Nov 15, 2017 • 1:16:16

Shipt CEO Bill Smith Makes Our Grocery Dreams Come True

Shipt CEO Bill Smith Makes Our Grocery Dreams Come True

Bill Smith had us at, “hello, may I deliver your groceries right to your home??” He’s the CEO and founder of Shipt, a membership-based grocery marketplace that delivers fresh foods and household essentials straight to people’s houses. He basically invented a service for those of who us who haaate setting foot in a grocery store (herding 3 children under 5 in a store while buying groceries for the week? Byeeeeee!). We’ll learn how Bill came up with this idea—and yes, it actually was whil

Nov 7, 2017 • 45:37

Melissa D’Arabian – The Gift of Food

Melissa D’Arabian – The Gift of Food

Our food series is ramping up with beloved celebrity chef, best-selling author, and mom of four, Melissa D’Arabian. Melissa was launched into the world of celebrity chef-dom by winning season 5 of “The Next Food Network Star” and started her first show, Ten Dollar Dinners. From there Melissa has gone on to write cookbooks, weekly columns, host webshows for the Food Network and so much more. Melissa is driven to show people that the preparing of food for others shouldn’t be a performance

Oct 30, 2017 • 1:07:20

Danielle Walker - The Healing Power of Food

Danielle Walker - The Healing Power of Food

Danielle Walker is the author and photographer of the New York Times Best Selling cookbook Against all Grain. Danielle battled an autoimmune disorder that baffled doctors. Convinced it had everything to do with what she was eating, Danielle started experimenting in the kitchen to to regain her health through the medicine of food.  She is dedicated to helping others find wellness without sacrificing flavor or fun. Not only does she have amazing recipes for those of us who have committed

Oct 24, 2017 • 1:02:03

Aarti Sequeira -The Life Behind the Party

Aarti Sequeira -The Life Behind the Party

Welcome to our all new series on (wait for it) FOOD!  We kick off this series on one of our most FAVORITE topics with the amazing cookbook author and host of Food Network’s Aarti Party, Aarti Sequeira! Aarti got her start as a journalist and working CNN, dreaming of becoming the next Oprah. Always a lover of food, she began blogging about cooking and she and her husband started a YouTube cooking-variety show in their tiny L.A. home kitchen. Eventually Aarti competed on and won Season 6

Oct 18, 2017 • 1:17:40

Chrissy Kelly: How to Survive When Your Dreams Dissolve

Chrissy Kelly: How to Survive When Your Dreams Dissolve

When Jen's Tribe speaks, we get the most incredible guests, and for the wrap-up of our Moxie series, Chrissy Kelly is no exception.  We asked you to tell us who you knew that had the most “moxie” – someone who epitomizes grit, determination and perseverance--and Chrissy’s name came up a hundred fold. Chrissy shares her journey as a “Type A” mom, an introvert, a writer, a blogger on her new site "lifewithgreyson.com," and a compulsive photographer.  Her “check the box” life was turned up

Oct 9, 2017 • 1:05:31

Discovering That YOU Are Good Enough with Amena Brown

Discovering That YOU Are Good Enough with Amena Brown

Jen meets up with her feisty and funny friend, Amena Brown. Amena is an author, spoken word poet, speaker and event host.  Amena shares some of the story of how she came into her own; which she also recounts in her new book "How To Fix a Broken Record." She describes the freedom of what's it like when you are finally true to yourself. She also shares how she discovered the power of 'yes' and 'no,' what it's like to go to a Tall People's Club, how she "kissed dating goodbye (but not fore

Oct 2, 2017 • 1:06:05

Nichole Nordeman – Music, Motherhood & Moxie

Nichole Nordeman – Music, Motherhood & Moxie

Jen interviews her “ride or die” friend; musician, songwriter and author, Nichole Nordeman. Nichole and Jen will be taking off together for the “Moxie Matters” tour (coming to a city near you starting October 2017 - moxiematterstour.com ). They share their hearts behind taking "moxie" on the road and share highlights/hijinks from their previous times on tour.  Nichole also talks about her latest album (that should include a pack of Kleenex with purchase, btw) called “Every Mile Mattered,” and th

Sep 26, 2017 • 59:29

Glennon Doyle – Finding Beauty In the Mess

Glennon Doyle – Finding Beauty In the Mess

Jen and Glennon have a conversation about the flip side of moxie—the mess that usually precedes it. Glennon is the wildly popular curator of the online community “Momastery.” She is a best-selling author of the book “Carry On, Warrior,” and her latest book is called “Love Warrior.” Glennon speaks candidly of what it looks like to let go of trying to be perfect, of trying to fit in, and how embracing your pain leads to transformation and beauty.   To learn more about listener data and o

Sep 18, 2017 • 1:11:31

Anna LeBaron & Ruth Wariner - Unyielding Courage

Anna LeBaron & Ruth Wariner - Unyielding Courage

We asked Jen’s tribe to submit stories of women they knew who defined “moxie” like no others. Overwhelmingly, Anna LeBaron and Ruth Wariner, authors of The Polygamist’s Daughter and The Sound of Gravel, respectively, were at the top of the list.  Anna & Ruth share how they overcame the worst of circumstances in their childhoods as part of a polygamist cult, and how later they discovered the tragedy that bound them, but didn’t define them.   To learn more about listener data and our

Sep 12, 2017 • 1:17:02

Business With Purpose - Jessica Honegger of The Noonday Collection

Business With Purpose - Jessica Honegger of The Noonday Collection

In our continuing series featuring women with "moxie," Jen visits with fellow Austinite and good friend Jessica Honegger, who built her company, Noonday Collection, as a socially responsible fashion brand to help artisans who live in vulnerable communities all over the world. Since growing the company to its presence in over 13 countries, along with a network of 2000 ambassadors across the U.S, Jessica gives insight into the challenges of building a business and the rewards of helping c

Sep 6, 2017 • 1:05:10

Melissa Hartwig - Food, Freedom & The Whole30

Melissa Hartwig - Food, Freedom & The Whole30

The Whole30. You've done it. Jen's done it. Someone you know is on it right now. Melissa Hartwig is the co-founder of this wildly successful dietary program that has helped millions of people transform their health, habits and relationship with food. Melissa tells the story of how her personal 30-day dietary and lifestyle experiment provided the basis for the Whole30 movement, and shares with Jen her journey from the lows of drug and alcohol addiction to the heights of becoming a health

Aug 29, 2017 • 58:45

Getting Vulnerable With Dr. Brené Brown

Getting Vulnerable With Dr. Brené Brown

Researcher & storyteller Dr. Brené Brown brings us her thoughts on shame, suffering, courage and vulnerability during this week’s conversation with Jen; drawing from her many years as a research professor, and as a woman who is seeking her most authentic life. She discusses true vulnerability and our craving for connection. She also flips the script on suffering; reframing it as a catalyst for being overcomers in our lives by asserting: “’moxie’ doesn't come from all the good stuff

Aug 22, 2017 • 1:11:46

Luvvie Ajayi – Authenticity in a Branded World

Luvvie Ajayi – Authenticity in a Branded World

Kicking off the new “For the Love of Moxie” series is Luvvie Anjayi, a hilarious writer and blogger who epitomizes what “moxie” is all about. Fierce and funny, Luvvie’s blog, awesomelyluvvie.com, has a massive following, and her new book I’m Judging You: The Do Better Manual, is a New York Times bestseller and has been picked up by producer extraordinaire Shonda Rhimes (Grey's Anatomy, Scandal). for the creation of a new TV show. In the book, she covers a host of topics, serious and fun

Aug 14, 2017 • 48:57

Real Girlfriends Stories from The Tribe

Real Girlfriends Stories from The Tribe

Jen asked YOU, her Tribe, to tell us your best friendship stories. After hundreds of responses on Facebook, we ended up with two sets of friends sharing their amazing stories with Jen—probably the most touching friendship stories you will ever hear!  Vivian and Nancy recount the story of Nancy’s friendship with her friend Denise and the promise she made to her that altered the course of her life. Ann and Anne became “mother and daughter” after a series of events that will bring tears to

Aug 7, 2017 • 1:09:47

Friendship = Fun with Annie Downs

Friendship = Fun with Annie Downs

Nobody has more fun with their friends than Annie F. Downs (the “F” stands for “fun!”). Author of 100 Days to Be Brave, Annie is a national speaker and lover of banjos, boiled peanuts, and Westward expansion (???) --we promise; it will all make sense. You’ll love getting to know Annie, plus you’ll learn some tips for navigating online dating, how to be a “show-er-upper” for your girlfriends, and ways just to have more fun generally in life.

Aug 1, 2017 • 53:21

Shasta Nelson - Girlfriends Can Save the World

Shasta Nelson - Girlfriends Can Save the World

Did you know that there is a science around “girlfriendhood?” Shasta Nelson, a noted “friendship expert” and author of a book series on friendships, does. Shasta’s life work is to help women make and keep great friendships, and she has studied the actual science of why having girlfriends makes us stronger, smarter and healthier!  Plus, you’ll find out what kind of friend Jen is, when you hear the results of her taking Shasta’s “friendtimacy” quiz (don’t worry, she passed). To learn mor

Jul 24, 2017 • 45:20

Vicki Iovine - The Girlfriend’s Guide to…Girlfriends!

Vicki Iovine - The Girlfriend’s Guide to…Girlfriends!

When talking about girlfriends, no one has more insight than the original “best girlfriend” herself – Vicki Iovine! Author of the “Girlfriends Guide” series, Vicki has guided a slew of women through pregnancy, motherhood, toddlers, and even getting their groove back! She shares how she started writing for girlfriends from a practical standpoint, peppering her stories with her hilarious take on all the things women face. She also shows us her perspective on how “lifetime” girlfriends bring us joy

Jul 17, 2017 • 43:39

Shauna Niequist – Savoring Your Friendships

Shauna Niequist – Savoring Your Friendships

In our debut podcast, Jen talks with her good girlfriend Shauna Niequist, author of Present Over Perfect. Jen and Shauna swap stories about their friendship and how their circle of girlfriends give them life, laughter and encouragement. They also discuss how good girlfriends will stand by you through everything from wardrobe malfunctions to family crises; plus they always know exactly when to whisk you away for a girls' trip when life gets stressful. Shauna also shares some great tips o

Jul 12, 2017 • 50:32

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