Inside the Life

Inside the Life

The Mob Museum

Season Two is in production! Inside the Life is a podcast produced by The Mob Museum, the National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement. It is hosted by two former elite undercover agents, Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin. Their stories of infiltrating everything from the American Mob and outlaw motorcycle gangs to the cartels will leave you stunned. This podcast will give listeners a one-of-a-kind look into the inner world of organized crime, featuring guests who have lived on both sides of the law, risked it all and emerged to tell the tale. Inside the Life promises to be...

Jay Dobyns – ATF Agent Responsible for Infiltrating Hells Angels Motorcycle Club

Jay Dobyns – ATF Agent Responsible for Infiltrating Hells Angels Motorcycle Club

In this episode, retired Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agent Jay Dobyns sits down with Giovanni and Dutch to share how he went from getting shot on his fourth day on the job to successfully infiltrating the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club under the alias Jaybird Davis, the gunrunner. Having previously worked on outlaw motorcycle club cases themselves, Giovanni and Dutch share their own insights into just how violent and dangerous these organizations can be. Dobyns also talks about his other c

Aug 1, 2024 • 1:18:59

Lew Rice – Former DEA SAC on His Time in NYC, Miami, Jamaica and with Kingpin Frank Lucas

Lew Rice – Former DEA SAC on His Time in NYC, Miami, Jamaica and with Kingpin Frank Lucas

Long inspired by his father, a Harlem NYPD detective, and confronted by the 1970s heroin epidemic in New York City which affected many of his young-adult peers returning from the Vietnam War, Lew Rice found his calling with the Drug Enforcement Administration in 1974. In this episode, Rice describes his journey with the DEA, highlighting his undercover experiences and how he worked his way through the ranks to supervisory roles, all while sharing the best advice he received along the way. He als

Jul 25, 2024 • 1:08:05

Vincent Pastore – “Sopranos” Star Talks Career, Nightlife Industry and Experience with Wiseguys

Vincent Pastore – “Sopranos” Star Talks Career, Nightlife Industry and Experience with Wiseguys

Best known for his role as Salvatore “Big Pussy” Bonpensiero on HBO’s hit series “The Sopranos,” Giovanni and Dutch welcome actor Vincent Pastore to Inside the Life. In this episode, Vincent, Giovanni and Dutch chop it up, discussing everything from Pastore’s career in the music and nightlife industry, his experience living and working around New York Mob-types, how he landed his role on “The Sopranos” to Giovanni’s infiltration of the “real Sopranos,” New Jersey’s DeCavalcante crime family. Aft

Jul 18, 2024 • 53:47

Patricia Naughton – Outlaw Bikers, the Mafia and Clandestine Labs with One of DEA’s First Female Undercover Agents

Patricia Naughton – Outlaw Bikers, the Mafia and Clandestine Labs with One of DEA’s First Female Undercover Agents

One of the DEA’s first female undercover agents, Patricia Naughton sits down with Giovanni and Dutch to talk about her experience inside the life. While bonding over the risks they were all willing to take, Naughton describes how she went from small narcotics buys as a city police officer to infiltrating outlaw motorcycle clubs and the Detroit Mafia as a woman in the 1980s. During an incredibly violent era in Detroit's history, Naughton had the unique experience of crossing paths and fostering r

Jul 11, 2024 • 55:12

John Gleeson – The Prosecutor Responsible for Convicting “The Teflon Don” John Gotti

John Gleeson – The Prosecutor Responsible for Convicting “The Teflon Don” John Gotti

In a rare interview, John Gleeson, the former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, shares his experiences as a prosecutor in the government’s 1986 and 1992 cases against Gambino crime family boss John Gotti. Sitting down with co-hosts Dutch and Giovanni, Gleeson gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look into how he and the government crafted the case against Gotti and his co-defendants, why they risked indicting him after losing the first trial and how Gleeson secured his

Jul 4, 2024 • 57:32

Salvatore “Sally Ubatz” Polisi – Ex-Colombo Crime Family Associate and Organized Crime Expert Witness

Salvatore “Sally Ubatz” Polisi – Ex-Colombo Crime Family Associate and Organized Crime Expert Witness

Power, money, greed and image – Sal Polisi’s firsthand experience as a Colombo associate during the Mafia’s height in 1970s New York City is a testament to the Mob’s violence and disregard for public safety. In this episode, Polisi tells host Giovanni Rocco how after years of committing crimes with the Colombo and Gambino crime families, he became disillusioned during a stint in the Lewisburg Penitentiary. Though he was never a made man, he also describes how he became one of the government's st

Jun 27, 2024 • 1:06:54

Chris Brancato – Showrunner, Writer and Producer Best Known for "Narcos" and "Godfather of Harlem"

Chris Brancato – Showrunner, Writer and Producer Best Known for "Narcos" and "Godfather of Harlem"

In this episode, co-hosts Dutch McAlpin and Giovanni Rocco speak with television and film creator, writer and producer Chris Brancato. As the showrunner of organized crime television dramas “Narcos” and “Godfather of Harlem,” Brancato explores the unique influence of organized crime on popular culture. In this episode, Brancato shares how he strategically combines real events with his own creative liberties to shape the alluring dichotomy of well-known crime figures, showcasing both their person

Jun 20, 2024 • 1:00:09

Kathrine Narducci – Famed “Sopranos,” “Alto Knights” Actress Talks Life, Art and Mob Films

Kathrine Narducci – Famed “Sopranos,” “Alto Knights” Actress Talks Life, Art and Mob Films

Actress Kathrine Narducci offers hosts Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin a firsthand look into the world of Mob television and film. Exploring her work as an actress, Narducci shares how she beat out more than 2,500 women for her first role, the backstory she created for her character on “The Sopranos,” the surprise of her “Euphoria” character’s viral look and details about her upcoming projects.   About Kathrine Narducci: Narducci is best known for her series regular role as Charmaine Bucco on t

Jun 13, 2024 • 33:19

Javier Peña – DEA Agent on the Case of Colombian Narco Kingpin Pablo Escobar

Javier Peña – DEA Agent on the Case of Colombian Narco Kingpin Pablo Escobar

Javier Peña, the retired Drug Enforcement Administration agent whose fight to take down Medellín Cartel kingpin Pablo Escobar was dramatized in Netflix’s “Narcos,” sits down with hosts Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin to share the real story of his career. After starting his law enforcement career in a Laredo, Texas jail, Javier Peña never expected the world’s most violent drug trafficker would know him by name and put a $300,000 bounty on his life. In this episode, Peña details his work as a DE

Jun 6, 2024 • 1:06:54

Frank Calabrese Jr. – The Reformed Chicago Outfit Associate Behind Operation Family Secrets

Frank Calabrese Jr. – The Reformed Chicago Outfit Associate Behind Operation Family Secrets

Reformed mobster and son of notorious Chicago Outfit enforcer and hitman Frank Calabrese Jr. sits down with former undercover agents Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin to share his story of family, violence, addiction and life inside the Chicago Outfit. In this candid conversation Calabrese Jr. shares the intimate details surrounding his decision to leave the world his father pressured him into and how he risked his life to escape.   About Frank Calabrese Jr.  Frank Calabrese Jr. is a former membe

May 30, 2024 • 1:26:29

Frank Panessa – DEA Agent Behind the Takedown of the Pizza Connection

Frank Panessa – DEA Agent Behind the Takedown of the Pizza Connection

Narcotics trafficking is a global problem. Agents who are sent to fight it can find themselves deep undercover on foreign soil. In this episode, hosts Dutch McAlpin and Giovanni Rocco sit down with retired Drug Enforcement Administration agent Frank Panessa. Frank was at the center of the case known as the “Pizza Connection," during which he infiltrated the Mafia. As former undercover agents themselves, Giovanni and Dutch are able to ask Frank all the right questions. Frank talks about his start

May 23, 2024 • 1:09:57

The One With the Hot Dog: Giovanni and Dutch on Working Together

The One With the Hot Dog: Giovanni and Dutch on Working Together

Who can you trust? In this captivating episode, hosts Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin discuss how their undercover work intersected at the most opportune and dire times, including an unforgettable Las Vegas dinner with a DeCavalcante crime family caporegime.  Produced by The Mob Museum. Season One of Inside the Life is presented by Levy Online and Levy Production Group. To watch episodes of this podcast, visit YouTube For behind-the-scenes photos, merchandise and exclusive content, visit insid

May 16, 2024 • 47:21

Meet Dutch McAlpin

Meet Dutch McAlpin

Welcome to Inside the Life, a podcast produced by The Mob Museum, the National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement. In this episode of Inside the Life, we introduce host and former elite undercover agent Dutch McAlpin. Dutch’s harrowing accounts offer a rare glimpse inside law enforcement, from his early years as a beat cop to the top-clearance, confidential world of undercover work.  About Dutch McAlpin: Often working in extremely dangerous, life-threatening scenarios, Dutch McAlpin l

May 16, 2024 • 1:18:15

Meet Giovanni Rocco

Meet Giovanni Rocco

Welcome to Inside the Life, a podcast produced by The Mob Museum, the National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement. In this episode, meet host and elite undercover agent Giovanni Rocco. Through Operation Charlie Horse, Rocco was responsible for infiltrating and taking down the DeCavalcante crime family now recognized as “The Real Sopranos.” About Giovanni Rocco: During his decades-long career working undercover for the federal government, Giovanni Rocco successfully infiltrated outlaw

May 16, 2024 • 1:33:17

Inside the Life Trailer

Inside the Life Trailer

Inside the Life is a new podcast produced by The Mob Museum, the National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement. It is hosted by two former elite undercover agents, Giovanni Rocco and Dutch McAlpin. Their stories of infiltrating everything from the American Mob and outlaw motorcycle gangs to the cartels will leave you stunned. This podcast will give listeners a one-of-a-kind look into the inner world of organized crime, featuring guests who have lived on both sides of the law, risked

May 2, 2024 • 1:00

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