By Little

By Little

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On the By Little podcast, we interview the social impact leaders and change agents addressing society's thorniest issues. From climate change to homelessness, and from the mental health crisis to social inequity, the problems our episodes confront are formidable, but so are the guests on our show. New episodes every other week. bylittle.substack.com

Uniting To Upend the School Status Quo

Uniting To Upend the School Status Quo

Is education really the great equalizer it's supposed to be? No, but this episode's guests are working to fix that. Marsha Davis is the co-founder and CEO of Davis Squared Consulting, an organization that helps schools provide equitable educational experiences for all. Combining comprehensive data analysis and deep compassion for the challenges school leaders face, Marsha helps faculty and staff understand the ways they can better serve students with marginalized identities. Then, she and her te

Sep 29, 2023 • 37:28

Students Get Ahead when Mentors Have Their Backs

Students Get Ahead when Mentors Have Their Backs

Can we fix the K-12 opportunity gap? Andy Bobowski, co-founder of Backrs, thinks so. He joins us on today's episode to explain how his company makes financial and social capital accessible for the young people who need it most. After sharing the ways that his experiences as a Memphis teacher, principal, and charter school founder inspired the development of the Backrs app, Bobowski tells us why empowering kids with a diverse network of invested adults can change the lives of students and mentors

Sep 13, 2023 • 35:51

Second Chances Change the World

Second Chances Change the World

How long should a person be made to pay for the worst thing they’ve ever done? Not forever, if Coop and Laura have anything to say about it.On this episode of the By Little podcast, Coop shares the story of his life leading up to his imprisonment. He explains how this experience led him to founding Operation Gateway, an Asheville, NC-based nonprofit aimed at reshaping the futures of formerly incarcerated people. Dr. Laura Chavez, Director of Research and Data at Clean Slate Initiative, join us t

Aug 30, 2023 • 30:06

Love Letters to the World from Prison

Love Letters to the World from Prison

How can a person spend 25 years behind bars for a crime they didn’t commit—10 of which were in solitary confinement—and still find it in their heart to love the world that put them there?On this episode of the By Little Podcast, Leon Benson, also known by his stage name El Bently 448, tells us. He shares the story of his two wrongful convictions, the prison and solitary confinement sentences he’s endured as a result, the impact all these experiences have had on his mental health, and what life’s

Aug 17, 2023 • 46:25

Trailer: By Little Podcast

Trailer: By Little Podcast

Welcome to the By Little podcast. We’re you’re hosts Thamarrah (pronounced: tuh-mair-uh) and Courtney (pronounced: kort-nee).On the By Little podcast, we interview the social impact leaders and change agents addressing society's thorniest issues. From climate change to homelessness, and from the mental health crisis to social inequity, the problems our episodes confront are formidable, but so are the guests on our show. New episodes are released every other Wednesday.After listening, head over t

Aug 11, 2023 • 0:59

30: Change Narratives, Shift Society with Rinku Sen (she/her)

30: Change Narratives, Shift Society with Rinku Sen (she/her)

Rinku Sen joins Thamarrah to get into what it means to build narrative power and how changing dominant narratives can reshape society. Rinku is the Executive director of Narrative Initiative an organization that engages in the work of deep narrative change by equipping social justice leaders with the knowledge, resources, and skills necessary to harness narrative power and create durable social change. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Find more As It Should Be

Dec 14, 2022 • 41:42

29: Support Black Business with Melvin Graham (he/him)

29: Support Black Business with Melvin Graham (he/him)

Melvin Graham (he/him) is in conversation with Thamarrah about the unique challenges of Black owned businesses and the role Black entrepreneurship has played in building America. Melvin is a filmmaker and director of the docuseries Black Business LA. In this series he follows entrepreneurs in the Los Angeles area building businesses despite a growing economic crisis.  ------------------------------------------------------------------- Find more As It Should Be at asitshouldbepod.com Support the

Nov 30, 2022 • 44:37

28: Support LGBTQ+ Youth with Elise Schuster (they/them)

28: Support LGBTQ+ Youth with Elise Schuster (they/them)

What if we raised an entire generation of young people to live freely and authentically as themselves? This is the question that Elise and Thamarrah explore in today's episode.  Elise Schuster is a sexuality educator with 15 years of experience in youth development and sexual health education. They spent years teaching workshops and having thousands of one-on-one educational pleasure-based sexual health conversations before co-founding the nonprofit OkaySo. OkaySo is on a mission to help young p

Nov 17, 2022 • 56:10

27: Make Music Not Prisons with Fury Young (he/him) & BL Shirelle (she/her)

27: Make Music Not Prisons with Fury Young (he/him) & BL Shirelle (she/her)

In today's episode Thamarrah (she/her) is joined by Fury Young & BL Shirelle to discuss how Die Jim Crow Records is dismantling stereotypes of incarceration impacted people through music.  Fury is DJC’s founder and Co-Executive Director and Under his leadership, Die Jim Crow Records has recorded over 60 incarcerated artists and over a dozen formerly incarcerated artists and gained access inside 5 different prisons. BL Shirelle is and the Co-Executive Director of DJC and a phenomenal songwriter/r

Oct 21, 2022 • 44:59

26: Protect Your Family Online with Joe Miller, Esq. (he/him)

26: Protect Your Family Online with Joe Miller, Esq. (he/him)

In today's episode Thamarrah (she/her) and Joe (he/him) discuss the role legislators play in protecting us online and how we can stay informed about the policy changes that dictate what tech companies can and cannot do with our data. Resources mentioned: 5 Easy Steps to Keep Your Kids Safe Online Joseph Shepherd Miller, Esq. is the Founder of The Washington Center for Technology Policy Inclusion (WashingTech). Through his work at WashingTech, Joe advocates for diversity and inclusion in technolo

Oct 1, 2022 • 27:55

[REPLAY] 05: Building Space for Neurodiversity to Thrive with Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her)

[REPLAY] 05: Building Space for Neurodiversity to Thrive with Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her)

In this episode, Co-Founder of Social Cipher, Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her) joins the show to discuss how her company is creating space for Neurodivergent youth to thrive through their space pirate-themed social-emotional learning games. Social Cipher is led by a team of Neurodivergent Founders, including Vanessa herself. Vanessa and Thamarrah (she/her) talk the importance of autistic youth failing safely, challenges faced by neurodivergent people caused by inequity in the workplace and in th

Sep 14, 2022 • 46:00

25: Facing our history to shape our future with Kimberly Latrice Jones (she/her)| Part 2

25: Facing our history to shape our future with Kimberly Latrice Jones (she/her)| Part 2

In part 2 of this 2-part episode, author and activist Kimberly Jones (she/her) joins Thamarrah to discuss taking advantage of the work that’s already being done in your city right now so that we can build thriving communities together. In her book How We Can Win, Kimberly explores the influence America’s history with racial disparity has on our lives today and delivers strategies for how we can effect change while nurturing ourselves in the process. You can buy the audiobook from Libro.fm using

Aug 31, 2022 • 38:10

24: Self-improvement is a revolutionary act with Kimberly Latrice Jones (she/her) | Part 1

24: Self-improvement is a revolutionary act with Kimberly Latrice Jones (she/her) | Part 1

Kimberly Jones (she/her) reminds us that the future we have tomorrow is decided by the actions we take today. In this episode Kimberly joins Thamarrah to discuss self-reflection as a community service and how learning from the pursuits and strategies of our ancestors can help guide our path towards justice today. In 2020, a video of Kimberly speaking on an Atlanta Street went viral after the murder of Ahmaud Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd ignited civil unrest. In just 6 minutes she cap

Aug 17, 2022 • 29:45

23: My Culture's Not Your Punchline with Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her)

23: My Culture's Not Your Punchline with Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her)

Culture is so deeply personal that when you see it reflected back at you in a way that’s gimmicky or stereotypical or just downright racist it's impossible to not take that personally. Which is why we expect creators of these productions to actually care enough to try to get it right. Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her) joins the show to discuss what it looks like to get cultural inclusion right. Today's episode is brought to you by the Reframeables and TwentyTwice podcasts Find more As It Should Be on

Aug 3, 2022 • 40:38

22: Check the Impact of Stuff You Buy with Fatimah Walee (she/her)

22: Check the Impact of Stuff You Buy with Fatimah Walee (she/her)

Do you know where the products you own come from? Not where you bought them, but was the person who picked the tomatoes in your tomato paste given fair wages, regular breaks, and adequate water? Was child labor used to create anything you own? It's impossible to answer those questions when companies just won't supply the info. In this episode, Fatimah Walee (she/her), Founder & CEO of Neuterra, joins to help us get some answers. Support Neuterra: Donate as little as $15 to help Neuterra bring su

Jul 20, 2022 • 26:41

21: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Pt. 2

21: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Pt. 2

This is part 2 of a two-part episode with Resmaa Menakem (he/him). In this segment, we discuss the origin of Resmaa's book The Quaking of America and how we can be cultivating joy and healing in community. Support Resmaa: His new book The Quaking of America is out now Support the show: Buy audiobooks from Libro.fm using code ASITSHOULDBE at checkout to get 2 books for the price of 1.

Jul 6, 2022 • 27:32

20: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Part 1

20: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Part 1

Resmaa Menakem (he/him), author of NYT best seller My Grandmother's Hands, joins me in conversation experiencing the overturning of Roe v wade and its effect on Black bodies. We discuss how anti-democratic elements in America are inciting widespread chaos and a collective trauma response in tens of millions of bodies in America. We also talk about our body's response to trauma and go through exercises of somatic practices to mobilize our healing towards the fight for justice. This is part 1 of a

Jul 1, 2022 • 31:06

Best Of | 01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

Best Of | 01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

This is a replay of the very first episode of the As It Should Be podcast recorded in Nov 2020. In this episode, Thamarrah and Susie discuss how the makers of K12 education content are pushing the industry towards more inclusivity by decentering the white experience. Susie Berg (she/her) is a writer, change agent, and co-conspirator for racial justice. Susie is a Senior Digital Solutions Strategist and Global Diversity and Inclusion Advocate at Pearson, the world’s learning company, an organizat

Jan 5, 2022 • 47:14

19: Support Women of Color in Business with Olivia Owens (she/her)

19: Support Women of Color in Business with Olivia Owens (she/her)

It's well documented women of color founders face both gender & racial inequities when it comes to building and growing their businesses. What I want to know is, what's being done about it? Olivia Owens and iFundWomen of Color are giving WOC founders the capital, coaching, and connections they need to kill the game. We discuss the unique barriers women of color founders face in building sustainable businesses, the best funding resource to kick start your business, and the role corporations play

Nov 22, 2021 • 29:12

18: Democratize the Workplace with Farzin Farzad (he/him)

18: Democratize the Workplace with Farzin Farzad (he/him)

In today's episode, I'm talking with Farzin Farzad (he/him) about why hierarchy in the workplace is more harmful than helpful, the strength that lies in reimagining power distribution, and how people around the world are building new models of work that shares power, wealth, and responsibility to all. Today's Question: How does power affect your work? And is there a such thing as healthy hierarchy? Submit your response on thamarrahjones.com/18 Become a Patron If you want to support the show go t

Nov 10, 2021 • 36:18

17: Your Story Matters. Here's Proof.

17: Your Story Matters. Here's Proof.

If you're reading this take this as your reminder that no matter who you are, where you come from, or who the world tells you you are, your story is important and you deserve to share it. In this episode, we meet a person who didn't believe that. But today, we're gonna see if we can work through that a little. Today's Question: Do you share your story in public? Why or why not? Submit your response on thamarrahjones.com/17 -------------------------------------------- If you want to support the s

Oct 6, 2021 • 44:03

16: Critique the Stories that Shape Us with F.D Signifier (he/him)

16: Critique the Stories that Shape Us with F.D Signifier (he/him)

We don't take the critical eye to our film and tv as often and as deeply as is needed. The level of influence that they have on how we not only see ourselves but the stories we believe about other people, requires that we take a step back. In today's episode, Thamarrah is joined by F.D Signifier (he/him). During our conversation I learned so much about Fiq's upbringing and how that shaped him, but we also get into a conversation about how the portrayal of Black men specifically has impacted how

Sep 22, 2021 • 48:46

15: Embracing Curiosity and Discovering Each Others Stories with Abhi Nangia (he/him)

15: Embracing Curiosity and Discovering Each Others Stories with Abhi Nangia (he/him)

What would happen if we were all genuinely interested in wondering about each other and our stories? Today we meet Abhi Nangia (he/him), the Executive Director of Better World Ed, a 501c3 nonprofit on a mission to humanize learning. In this episode, Abhi and Thamarrah (she/her) go on their own journey of exploration and curiosity about each other, how we see (and don't see) people in our communities, and whether curiosity could be a path to equity. -------------------------------------------- If

Sep 8, 2021 • 47:30

14: Build Brands Where People Are Seen, Heard, and Understood with Tameka Bazile (she/her)

14: Build Brands Where People Are Seen, Heard, and Understood with Tameka Bazile (she/her)

Thamarrah is joined by Tameka Bazile (she/her) to discuss creating marketing strategies that reflects your audience's stories and building a brand where people feel seen, heard, and understood. Tameka is helping entrepreneurs whose identities have been ignored by the girlboss-chic business coaches of the world. She's giving you the tools to build impactful brands and create conscious content that both empowers and serves your communities. -------------------------------------------- If you want

Sep 1, 2021 • 35:15

13: Accelerate Social Innovation Through Stronger Ecosystems with Anika Horn (she/her)

13: Accelerate Social Innovation Through Stronger Ecosystems with Anika Horn (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In today's conversation we dive into the world of ecosystem building. What it is and how ecosystems are giving social innovators around the world th

Aug 25, 2021 • 31:25

12: Fight Anti-Blackness in Banking with Asya Bradley (she/her)

12: Fight Anti-Blackness in Banking with Asya Bradley (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions!  --------------------------------------------  In this episode, Asya Bradley (she/her) & Thamarrah (she/her) discuss predatory practices in the financial system stifling the Black community and

Aug 18, 2021 • 24:31

[BONUS] Coming Soon!

[BONUS] Coming Soon!

As It Should Be returns with new episodes next week. If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions!

Aug 11, 2021 • 4:10

11: Create Communities Where The Fullness of Who You Are Matters with Grace Ouma-Cabezas (she/they)

11: Create Communities Where The Fullness of Who You Are Matters with Grace Ouma-Cabezas (she/they)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Grace Ouma-Cabezas (she/they) & Thamarrah (she/her) discuss managers helping employees thrive, centering diverse people and experie

Mar 10, 2021 • 52:36

10: Innovating Technology to Enable Equity and Justice with River Bunkley

10: Innovating Technology to Enable Equity and Justice with River Bunkley

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- River Bunkley (he/him) is a Product Specialist at Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and a Co-Founder of The Black Renaissance Group. River has made it his

Feb 26, 2021 • 51:39

09: Navigating Culture as an Immigrant with Anya Cherrice (she/her)

09: Navigating Culture as an Immigrant with Anya Cherrice (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Thamarrah (she/her) and Anya Cherrice (she/her) discuss Anya's experience navigating through America as an immigrant, finding commu

Feb 17, 2021 • 33:24

08: Giving Kids the Space to Question in K12 Education with Mike Yates (he/him)

08: Giving Kids the Space to Question in K12 Education with Mike Yates (he/him)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Thamarrah (she/her) and Mike Yates (he/him) discuss how he is reimagining the future of education as one where students love school

Feb 10, 2021 • 41:54

07: Embracing 'Lived Experience' in Inclusion Practices with Patrice M. Palmer (they/them)

07: Embracing 'Lived Experience' in Inclusion Practices with Patrice M. Palmer (they/them)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Thamarrah (she/her) and Patrice Palmer (they/them) discuss how to deal with gaslighting, creating a culture that validates and embr

Feb 3, 2021 • 53:54

06: Building a Spirit of Equity in Children and in the Workplace with Serian Strauss (she/her)

06: Building a Spirit of Equity in Children and in the Workplace with Serian Strauss (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode Serian (she/her) and Thamarrah (she/her) discuss how to talk to kids about diversity, white supremacy in the workplace, and facilita

Jan 20, 2021 • 38:27

05: Building Space for Neurodiversity to Thrive with Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her)

05: Building Space for Neurodiversity to Thrive with Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Co-Founder of Social Cipher, Vanessa Castañeda Gill (she/her) joins the show to discuss how her company is creating space for Neuro

Jan 13, 2021 • 45:56

04: [BONUS] The Haitians Have Entered the Building | Haitian-American Experience in Corporate & Beyond

04: [BONUS] The Haitians Have Entered the Building | Haitian-American Experience in Corporate & Beyond

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this very special bonus episode of the podcast Thamarrah is joined by Elizabeth Goeuti, Nagela Dales, and Ralph Desmornes to reminisce on their e

Jan 1, 2021 • 1:21:35

Issa Holiday Break

Issa Holiday Break

See y'all in 2021. Until then if you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- Want to connect with Thamarrah? Email her at hello@thamarrahjones.com or follow her LinkedIn https://linkedin.com/in/t

Dec 21, 2020 • 3:27

03: Curating Experiences That Create Systemic Change with Neal Ludevig (he/him)

03: Curating Experiences That Create Systemic Change with Neal Ludevig (he/him)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode Neal (he/him) and Thamarrah (she/her) discuss curating spaces that foster conversation to enable systemic change and how to shift yo

Dec 18, 2020 • 52:38

02: Amplifying BIPOC Consumer Experiences with Nagela Dales (she/her)

02: Amplifying BIPOC Consumer Experiences with Nagela Dales (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- Nagela Dales (she/her) is the Founder of SLCo & Agency as well as Idea Trust, the research arm of SLCo & Agency. Through her companies she’s on a mi

Dec 9, 2020 • 47:36

01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

If you want to support the show go to patreon.com/thamarrahjones and become a patron for $3 per month. Get episodes 3-5 days early, videos of the interviews, and access to the interview schedule to know what guests are coming up next; submit questions or watch live to call into the show and ask questions! -------------------------------------------- In this episode, Thamarrah (she/her) and Susie discuss how the makers of K12 education content are pushing the industry towards more inclusivity by

Dec 2, 2020 • 44:31

Welcome to As It Should Be with Thamarrah Jones

Welcome to As It Should Be with Thamarrah Jones

As It Should Be with Thamarrah Jones is a mix of solo episodes and conversations with the people remaking the world as it should be. We’ll discuss the role of inclusion, belonging, and equity in facing the challenges shaping our society today. I’ll be talking to changemakers and culture-shakers in every industry from education to entertainment and everything in between to learn how they are using their industry to help build a society where belonging is at the center of everything we do. “Hope i

Nov 30, 2020 • 1:27

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