Lisa Donovan, Founder of the eerily accurate Astrology app, The Pattern, was unknowingly a part of Jason’s secret proposal plan because she was scheduled as a guest on the podcast for that day and then cancelled without Kaitlyn knowing so that he could fulfill his proposal master plan. If you haven’t listened to the proposal episode, you need to so you hear how Lisa was worked into it! But FINALLY Lisa joins Kaitlyn and Jason to read their individual charts using only their birth date, birth location and birth time… and the discoveries have both Kaitlyn and Jason (no longer a skeptic after this interview) speechless to the point that they have to remind themselves they are recording a podcast! Lisa also reads their relationship compatibility and discovers they are a very “rare couple” with “interesting compatibility” - one of them is a “wild card” and the other one is a “healer”.  You can find The Pattern on IG at @thepattern and download here: https://app.thepattern.com/otv CROCS - If you want to be comfortable all day long, head to crocs.com to get your pair today. APARTMENTS.COM - Go to apartments.com. The most popular place to find a place. BOLL & BRANCH - Listeners get an exclusive 15% off your first set of sheets with promo code VINE15 at bollandbranch.com EUROPEAN WAX CENTER - Visit waxcenter.com and book your reservation today. All first-time guests get their first first wax free! GEICO - Go to geico.com... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.