We know by now that the old system is crumbling, that the old paradigms are no longer fit for purpose and we need to take part in the birth of something new: this is what this podcast is for. But what are the tools and how can we begin actually to build something relevant and useful within the strictures of a system that is still trying to cling onto legitimacy and power? Michael Haupt was a key figure in the widespread introduction of mobile telephones to South Africa ahead of the first all-race elections in 1994.  He was head-hunted soon after and the next decade saw him working around the globe in 16 cities on 6 continents.  He was in Thailand, taking a year out when he had a vision - an actual not-expected, not-planned, not-drug-or-meditation-mediated set of visions - that showed him how the world could look and feel like if we manage to craft a route through to what he calls the Transition Phase of our evolution. This moment was pivotal in his life. Now he's a 'Resilience Strategist' bridging between those businesses that are switched on enough to know that corporate greenwashing is no longer useful, and agile enough to find what is. He's building mycelial links to others who are working in this area and he's thinking deeply - so deeply - about where we could go and the actual logistics of how we might get there. I've been holding a lot of conversations on the back of launching Any Human Power about how we could build a future that is fit for purpose, where the human and More-Than-Human worlds flourish on a thriving planet. Thanks to Audrey Tang and Glen Weyl, I can see some of the routes through to political and technological change. Thanks to the Gaia Foundation, the Sustainable Food Trust, the million and one permaculture organisations around the world, I can see a way to mending our totally broken food and farming system. I can see ways to shift transport and power generation and city design.  What I have lacked, until now, is the ideas that might bring the great behemoth that is the corporate world on board in a way that's useful.  And this is what Michael is doing. As ever, this was a wide, deep conversation and it pushed the edge of my thinking, but it brought me to a place where I can more clearly see a few more steps forward. I hope it does the same for you. 00:00 Introduction: Reconnecting with Nature01:19 Welcome to the Podcast01:40 Michael's Journey to Resilience Strategy02:14 Load Shedding in South Africa03:49 Understanding Resilience Strategy04:52 Michael's Life Journey and Worldview07:40 The Vision on the Beach12:15 Potential Futures and Human Coordination15:22 Cycles of Civilisations18:12 Class-Based vs. Values-Based Societies20:19 Emerging Consciousness and Systemic Change22:01 The Role of Currency and Mutual Credit27:25 Coordinating for Systemic Change28:55 South African Elections and Corporate Responsibility32:10 Legal Personhood for Natural Entities35:12 The Mycelial Network and Future Coordination38:28 Encouraging Systemic Change39:13 Resilience Strategies and City Exclusion40:12 Rural Experiments and Human Purpose41:12 Challenges of Implementation45:27 Local Currencies and Community Commitment50:50 Ownership vs. Stewardship53:22 Rediscovering Connectedness57:26 Emerging Incentive Mechanisms01:09:35 Forking Governance and Parallel Systems01:16:25 The Power of NarrativeMichael on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhaupt/A blog past about the Thai beach experience: https://michaelhaupt.com/the-beach-4b6e60e407e8Michael - Liminal School liminalschool.org Cycle of Civilization: https://bit.ly/7-Phases-Glo Interstructure: https://bit.ly/Int-Struct Roger Briggs, Emerging World - explains the shifts in consciousness: https://bit.ly/Em-World Will Ruddick, Commitment Pooling: https://bit.ly/CommPool Joe Brewer Bioregional Movement: https://bit.ly/JBrewerClare Graves' Momentous Leap: https://bit.ly/MoLeap GaiaNet: https://www.gaianet.earth/Dark Matter Labs: https://darkmatterlabs.org/