Fatima El-Assaad lost her daughter Aya in 2021 after she was born still at 27 weeks, but felt like she wasn't given the appropriate support to navigate her grief. It wasn't until Fatima started speaking to other Muslim parents, that she began to recognise a gap in culturally safe bereavement support. In fact, Fatima's advocacy group The Still Nest, contributed one of thousands of submissions to a world-first New South Wales birth trauma inquiry earlier this year - in which the government pledged support for all 43 recommendations. I'm your host Catriona Stirrat and in this episode of 'Hysterical' Fatima shares what she believes needs to change when it comes to healthy conversations around pregnancy loss.