Today I'm joined on the show by Don Phin, speaker, advisor, and mental fitness coach for executives. Don Phin has been a California employment practices attorney since 1983. He litigated cases for 17 years, figured out how ridiculous it all was, and decided to help employees and companies avoid destructive dramas. In 2002 Don launched his business HR That Works which he sold to ThinkHR in 2014. After two years as a VP on the ThinkHR executive team, Don left as planned to begin his newest work on his most recent program, Great HR. Don has written 6 books on the workplace, created dozens of training programs, and presented to hundreds of CEO, HR, and insurance groups. His goal is to help companies build powerful employment relationships that grow careers and the bottom line. His book, 'The 40/40 Solution: Mastering Emotional Energy in Leadership and Sales' is 'the solution to ending painful and destructive dramas, whether in the boardroom, coaching session, sales meeting, at home, or in conversations with yourself. Unlike most emotional intelligence books that focus on thinking your way through emotional problems, this book helps you learn how to feel your way through them. So that you can feel good about yourself afterward.' Don has created 10 courses for LinkedIn Learning. He recently finished recording and producing the LinkedIn Learning program on Transferable Skills. LinkedIn has asked him to do a new program about Building a Skills-Based Organization.  In a wide-ranging discussion, Don and I talked about: Transitioning from law attorney to the HR world. Don has presented over 600 times -two-thirds of which have been to Vistage CEO groups - this has created a unique opportunity to understand the needs & wants of top leaders.  How to run an HR hotline with 3500 clients by yourself! The decision to sell your business and move on. Using white labeling to add extra value through your consulting service. Don's book, 'The 40/40 Solution - Mastering Emotional Energy in Leadership and Sales'? How the LinkedIn learning programs started. And much more! Thanks, Don! For show notes and to see details of my previous guests, check out the podcast page here: www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast WANT MORE CUSTOMERS OR CLIENTS? Want more clients for your HR-related consultancy or HR Tech business? Check out: www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Services. WANT TO START AN HR BUSINESS? Want to launch your own consulting business in the broad Human Resources sector? Visit www.getmorehrclients.com for resources.