Lauren Drain Kagan (IG: @LaurenDrainFit) is a New York Times Best Selling Author with her book Banished: Surviving My Years in Westboro Baptist Church. She’s a registered nurse, certified personal trainer and mother. She’s a WBFF pro and currently has almost 4 million followers on Instagram. Learn more about Michael’s Men of Action Mentoring Program: https://go.moamentoring.com/i/2 Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelSartain Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-michael-sartain-podcast/id1579791157 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2faAYwvDD9Bvkpwv6umlPO?si=8Q3ak9HnSlKjuChsTXr6YQ&dl_branch=1 Filmed at Sticky Paws Studios: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UComrBVcqGLDs3Ue-yWAft8w 0:00 Intro 0:58 First time meeting Lauren 1:21 Making influencers three-dimensional 2:20 *Amazing story getting out of a cult 4:32 Inconsistencies with the Bible 6:09 Purpose for writing the book 7:09 Sexual improprieties, Alcohol use 8:41 Confusion about sex after marriage 9:17 Misogyny, arranged marriages and control 12:05 Margaret Atwood and the Handmaid’s Tale 13:15 *Westborough Baptist Church protests 15:50 *Getting media attention 16:31 *They were the only people going to heaven 18:20 Nothing was forgivable 19:16 Other hypocrisies 22:11 Definition of a cult 24:53 Physical abuse 27:07 Different ethnic groups and Revelations 29:27 The death of Pastor Phelps 34:53 More discrepancies with the Bible 36:45 Beliefs that stay with you after you escape 41:53 *Deprogramming yourself 46:07 Sex in the Bible 46:36 Evolution 48:51 Vladimir Putin 50:13 Oppression against Jews 52:36 Moonlanding conspiracy 53:00 Going to public school while being part of a cult 56:00 Sharpied out of family photos 57:23 Narcissistic supply 59:05 Lubyanka prison and the KGB 1:00:53 Defecting from the cult and feeling suicidal 1:02:15 PTSD and therapy 1:03:52 Forgiveness 1:06:17 *My father’s death 1:08:15 Aria Sky Kagan 1:09:50 Transitioning out of the cult 1:11:53 Ex best friend 1:13:54 Lauren’s mom 1:15:05 Transition back into dating 1:18:01 Meeting your husband on Match.com 1:21:15 *You’re not girlfriend material 1:23:06 *A relationship in Las Vegas 1:24:29 California is a terrible place to live 1:26:14 Signs that David was the one 1:29:16 Preventative side of healthcare 1:31:03 When did you realize you could get this ripped? 1:33:09 Competing in the northeast 1:36:30 Transition away from nursing 1:38:28 What is the thing most trainers are getting wrong? 1:40:43 @TheNurseMary: Coworkers judgmental about OnlyFans 1:44:00 Huge influencers who don’t do nudes on OnlyFans 1:47:22 Instagram is like an abusive boyfriend 1:48:55 Complications during pregnancy, sciatica 1:50:30 Post baby workout routine 1:51:43 Posting your relationship on Instagram 1:56:15 *Not available during my growth on Instagram 1:57:45 Jamie Villamor: When are you going to work out with me? 2:00:23 Testosterone and estrogen 2:02:56 *I’d like to f$&k my wife once in a while 2:05:30 *Test is the reason for this podcast 2:07:50 *UNLV study 2:10:40 What charities do you support? 2:11:28 How many people have left Westboro Baptist church? 2:13:01 Living in Las Vegas 2:14:40 Favorite people to work with, Mike Tang 2:16:47 *Monogamy 2:19:00 Anyone you don’t like to work with 2:22:49 *Jamie Villamor 2:24:03 Book advance 2:25:09 Legal ramifications of the book 2:28:21 How do you know you’re in a toxic situation? 2:31:07 Outro