Welcome to episode 25 of Conversations Late at Night. In this episode, we touch upon what it means to approach and deal with the difficult work that life often throws our way. We discuss the two types of perfectionism and how important it is to move past the unobtainable kind, the hidden joys of repetitive and zen-like jobs, the reflective practice of writing your future self a letter and we spend some time reflecting on Nike's ubiquitous mantra—Just Do It.  We also talk about how our Wander the Night Japan vinyl project is in its final days of wrapping up. Please enjoy. ••• Head to www.conversationslateatnight.com for more episodes. ※ All music composed by SJF. Photography by Cody Ellingham. If you like the podcast and want to support it, please share it with a loved one, subscribe and leave a review. SJF's Patreon • Cody's Patreon Chat with us, ask questions or let us know your thoughts in our Signal group; a place where creatives of all mediums are coming together to share work and offer support.