In this conversation with Paul Kingsnorth, we discuss his main takeaways from his Substack series on The Machine, technology, artificial intelligence and silicon valley, civilization, principalities, the act of creation and desiring to be God, yet also creating the space for our annihilation. We also touch on environmentalism, storytelling, and art, including Tolkien and The Matrix. Enjoy.Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/BCIRA9wRkIAHis Substack: https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/Join me and Richard Rohlin for the Symbolic World course on Dante's Inferno: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses-pages/dantes-infernoPrevious conversations with Paul Kingsnorth:- Civilization and Control: https://youtu.be/QetAHfg7w8s?si=mVSI0fOTFiroIwTb - Environmentalism, the Tower of Babbel, and the Disintegration of Culture: https://youtu.be/uqDWGdJJx1Y?si=At5HMZaDohzgAFvmTimestamps:00:00 - Coming up01:01 - Intro music01:26 - Introduction02:11 - What are your main insights?07:19 - Can this serve God?10:53 - Become dependent on tools13:05 - The god of economy14:44 - The short history of progress16:05 - No conspiracy needed19:35 - A desire to supplant us22:12 - Theosis24:27 - Making vs giving birth27:02 - Creation myths28:09 - The environmental narrative35:54 - How has your perception on story changed?39:33 - Changing Paul's writing41:47 - Language and AI in Writing45:32 - The Influence of art53:19 - Tolkien and a simple ending56:54 - New stories💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageauOur website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.