Sam Sethi is the CEO of the Podfans progressive web app, cohost of Podnews Weekly Review and the owner of the 'River Radio' radio station. In Conversation #86, Sam and I discuss: participating actively during the birth of the internet, how digital money will change the world, his 4 focuses whilst creating Podfans, the cool new features in the PWA, why he is going all in on the 'Value For Value' model, technology he think will be important in the next 10 years and books/people he finds fascinating.Hope you're having a fantastic day wherever you are in the world, Kyrin out!Timeline:(0:00) - Intro to Sam(0:59) - Sam's adoption story(4:12) - The army & Microsoft(9:10) - Web 3 vs The Internet(12:52) - The hype cycle is similar(16:45) - Micropayments & fractional banking(21:33) - The origins of Podfans(25:55) - What is Podfans?(27:36) - Discovery, interactivity, gamification & monetisation(33:10) - The 3 value levels(37:07) - Soft manipulation vs hard technical limits(43:21) - Boosting/streaming & Alby transactions(47:15) - Oscar Merry & Fountain(52:18) - Banks making payments hard(55:09) - Targeting early adopters(58:16) - V4V philosophy(1:03:50) - Free walking tours(1:07:24) - The innovative 'support' feature(1:10:35) - Monetising & success(1:15:45) - Value for value is more than just money(1:19:12) - Voice still has a long way to go(1:25:09) - Sam's book recommendations(1:31:12) - The Second Curve: Charles Handy(1:33:50) - Great men of history vs inevitable progress(1:37:40) - BTC & Michael Saylor(1:40:19) - Online vs In Person(1:42:51) - AR Yes! VR No!(1:45:54) - Help make Podfans better(1:49:27) - Check out Podnews(1:50:19) - Probably no more Sam Talks TechnologyConnect With Sam & Podfans:Website: https://podfans.fm/Twitter: https://twitter.com/joinpodfansPodcast: https://weekly.podnews.net/Connect with Mere Mortals:Website: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/Discord: https://discord.gg/jjfq9eGReUInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/meremortalspodcast/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@meremortalspodcastSupport the show