This week I’m joined by Julia Samuel MBE, who is one of the UK’s leading psychotherapists, specialising in grief and loss. You may already know Julia from her brilliant book ‘Grief Works’ and through her work as Founder Patron of Child Bereavement UK, which teaches authorities how to support families to rebuild their lives after loss. We had a beautiful conversation about transition and change. We talk about the change of becoming a mother, which is far more complex and challenging than ever before. We also talk about the constant change of family dynamics and how we can use these moments of transition to help us grow.  Julia’s new book ‘This Too Shall Pass - Stories of Change, Crisis and Hopeful Beginnings’ is released in March and is all about the challenge and power of dealing with change. I really enjoyed our conversation - it’s such a privilege to sit with people like Julia who are doing such profound work in the world. My focus right now is trying to reach more mums and parents with the podcast – if this episode resonates with you, I’d love it if you could share it with a friend or loved one. For the full episode show notes, please head over to motherkind.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices