In Episode 13 of Anthropological Airwaves, producer Diego Arispe-Bazan introduces two interviews, one between Penn grad student Josh Franklin and Professor Carolyn Sufrin. They discuss her recent book Jailcare: Finding the Safety Net for Women Behind Bars (2017), interspersed with news clips and testimonials on the topic. After a rare recorded quote by Sigmund Freud, Diego returns in the second half of the episode to talk with Xochitl Marsili-Vargas to discuss the ways that psychoanalytic discourse circulates outside of the clinic through questions such as "what you really mean is," the kinds of conversations one might have with strangers, and reflect on the differences between mental health care in Argentina and the United States.  Episode Transcript Featured Audio: Bajofondo Tango Club - "Perfume" Shaka Senghor - "How Prison Sets Inmates Up for Failure: Racism, Mental Illness, Poverty" Healthcare in America's Prison System ABC15 Arizona - "Arizona's prisons boss found in contempt over inmate care" Credits:  Producer, Editor, and Interviewer: Diego Arispe-Bazán  Interviewer: Josh Franklin  Co-Editor: Kyle Olson Thumbnail Image