In a world in existential crisis, deep within what Joanna Macy called The Deep Unravelling, we have a critical need for road maps to help us navigate a way forward to a future we can't yet imagine.  Rupert Read, originator of the Thrutopia concept, discusses how he came to coin the term, what it means - and, crucially, how we get there.Nobody can doubt now that we're in the midst of the climate and ecological emergency: doom scrolling is now a national sport.  But if we think about doom, that's what we'll get and most of us would prefer that we had a way through to a future we'd be proud to leave behind. It's up to us to make this happen and Professor Rupert Read, with his long history of climate action through the Green Party, Extinction Rebellion and his writing, is well placed to make this happen. He's also the originator of the name, 'Thrutopia' - laying out the need for a Thrutopian genre in the Huffington Post back in 2017.  As we head towards the Thrutopia Masterclass and endeavour to make this happen, Rupert and Manda discuss the need for this genre and how it might look and feel. Thrutopia Masterclass: https://thrutopia.life Rupert's Website: https://rupertread.netRupert's Paper: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rupert-read/thrutopia-why-neither-dys_b_18372090.html/IPCC report: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg2/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGII_SummaryForPolicymakers.pdfUrsula le Guin: The Dispossessed: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-dispossessed/9781473228412Lawyers for net zero https://www.lawyersfornetzero.comClimate Emergency Centres network https://climateemergencycentre.co.ukMothership https://mothership.sg/2021/09/climate-crisis-halimah/Guardian article on fish: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/17/trawling-for-fish-releases-as-much-carbon-as-air-travel-report-finds-climate-crisis