On this episode of the Utterly Moderate Podcast, host Lawrence Eppard is joined by University of Texas historian Jeremi Suri to discuss his new book, Civil War by Other Means: America’s Long and Unfinished Fight for Democracy.

In addition to helping listeners understand the failures of reconstruction, their discussion focused on topics such as:

• How Nazi Germany used Jim Crow as a model for their own policies
• The important ties between the election of 1876 and today
• Just how fragile American democracy really is, both then and now

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Episode Music:

• “Please Listen Carefully” by Jahzzar (creative commons)
• “Draw the Sky” by Paul Keane (licensed through TakeTones)
• “Star Blessed Night” by Ketsa (creative commons)
• “Last Dance” by Jahzzar (creative commons)
• “Happy Trails (To You)” by the Riders in the Sky (used with artist’s permission)

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