In this episode of Swan Signal we’re joined by Matt Odell cohost of the Tales from the Crypt podcast  - and John Carvalho, recently of Bitrefill and now working on his own thing to be announced soon. We talk coin mixing, Tor and other privacy topics, we get into lightning and finish up with some macro and financial discussion.   LinksSwan Bitcoin - the best place to buy and invest in BitcoinSwan Signal PodcastSwan Bitcoin on TwitterMusic: When We Stare at the Moon by Donovan HikaruMatt on TwitterJohn on Twitter Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private.   Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.