Beyonce appeared on Oprah’s show multiple times — as a singer, wife, mother, and mogul. We discuss how the relationship between these two icons evolved and reflected the larger culture. Special Guest: Treva Lindsey, Associate Professor in the Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Department at Ohio State University. Find lots more and subscribe to our newsletter on our website — Oprahdemics.com Producer Nina Earnest, Executive Producer Jody Avirgan. Artwork by Jonathan Conda. Oprahdemics is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. Your support helps foster independent, artist-owned podcasts and award-winning stories. If you want to support the show directly, you can do so on our website: Oprahdemics.com