We talked to Daley who went from being unhappy as a strategy consultant to working at the zoo. He talks about the dark side of being a strategy consultant, how he discovered his passion for animals and how working at the zoo feels more aligned to his purpose, which ultimately makes him much happier. Daley opens up about how being a "nice guy" worked against him and how he strives to become an "integrated male", embracing all his different components of self: Emotional, physical and psychological. In his time off and when he's not taking breathtaking photos of animals with his camera, he has a steady running routine to support his physical and mental health. He is also a serial marathon runner and raises awareness and funds to help save the endangered painted dogs. Follow Daley here: ⁠⁠@daleyvandesande.photography⁠⁠ ⁠⁠@daley_running⁠⁠ Donate ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ to help save the painted dog Finished this episode and not done yet? Listen to an episode where Soroosh talks about his longest run ever: ⁠⁠#11 Running And Mental Health - How I Experienced My Longest Run Ever Physically And Mentally⁠⁠ Want to join our online men's circle? You can put yourself on the waiting list by getting in touch with us (see below). We're launching soon! Have a question, a guest in mind who should be on our podcast or a topic that you think we should cover related to men's mental health? Send us a voice message on Spotify, DM us via our Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hearts_wide_open_podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or simply mail us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠contact@heartswideopenpodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you're enjoying the podcast, your 5-star review really helps us amplify the voice for men's health and motivates us to lead by example in showing that men can open up space where it's okay to be vulnerable and authentic.