The First Minister of Wales shares his personal experience of leading a country through a crisis, covering the practical, personal and political elements of the crisis as well as of what comes after. The FM also ponders the differing political forces within the UK, particularly of what makes the experience of Labour in Wales so different to that of Labour in Scotland. This is a packed hour of top-level leadership insight and political wisdom. Follow Mark on Twitter here: @MarkDrakeford Follow Matt on Twitter: @mattforde For the latest Welsh Government advice on coronavirus go to: https://gov.wales/coronavirus For the latest UK Government advice on coronavirus go to: https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus *** IMPORTANT TOUR UPDATE *** NEW REARRANGED DATES INCLUDE: 2 October - Corby Cube 4 October - Brighton Komedia 9 October - Chorley Little Theatre 18 October - Leeds Hyde Park Book Club 25 October - Newcastle Stand 3 November - Camberley Theatre 13 November - Alnwick Playhouse 15 November - York Crescent 19 November - Cardiff Sherman Theatre 29 November - Glasgow Stand 3 December - Southend Dixon Studio 6 December - Sheffield Leadmill Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.