"The payment network has no value if your asset is not desirable. Like this is not, you cannot have this, like I'm just gonna build all of this stuff on top of it. And if none of the assurances of the underlying, those things don't matter because its value is in the quote unquote utility of payments.

Money is its own utility. Money is its own utility because where on earth do you hold value in something that can hold enormous amounts of value that has no counterparty risk, that has nobody in charge, that has nobody that can rug pull you. You do not understand that is a $100 trillion problem.

That is the biggest problem on earth."

~ Guy Swann