On today's episode, Chuck talks with Christopher J. Williamson, Assistant Secretary for Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA). Secretary Williamson leads the federal agency in charge of keeping all miners safe and healthy, and was a key figure behind rule changes that help protect miners from silica dust exposure.  We're thrilled he joined the show!Plus, Chuck and Big John breakdown the presidential debate. Learn more about the Chris Mack story at the DOL https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/michael-lewis-chris-marks-the-canary-who-is-government/Timestamps02:10 — Intro and discussion about presidential debate24:42 — Interview with Secretary Chris J. Williamson28:15 — Secretary Williamson's Appalachian roots and background39:00 — Black lung and the silica dust exposure rule changes48:55 — Reaction to the rule from miners, industry, etc. 01:01:05 — Other priorities at MSHA01:14:30 — Profile about Chris Mack01:17:10 — Big John's got beef with….you?Transition Music: “Leave it to Me” by Corduroy Brown https://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $5/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!Red Rooster Coffee! Use our promo code “DOLLY” for free shipping!https://www.redroostercoffee.com/CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code “BANJO” for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/DISCLAIMER: None of the views expressed in this show represent the views of either Chuck or John's employers, and they never willSend us a textThe Secret Story of Nutmeg - A hidden historyMysteries and Histories of a seed that shaped the world...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the show