Frank Gavin, the Giovanni Agnelli Distinguished Professor and inaugural director of the Henry A. Kissinger Center for Global Affairs at Johns Hopkins SAIS and contributor to War in Ukraine: Conflict, Strategy, and the Return of a Fractured World, joins the show to talk about nuclear strategy and the war in Ukraine.▪️Times     •      01:36 Introduction     •      01:53 What are nuclear weapons for?    •      04:15 Pervasive but not used    •      09:53 Invasion insurance    •      17:58 Better to be near-nuclear      •      22:26 How might Putin use nuclear weapons?     •      26:04 Learning by doing    •      33:48 “It’s all happening at once”    •      41:31 Rattling the saber works      •      48:04 “We will get them back”        •      50:07 History and StrategyFollow along  on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War SubstackFollow the link to buy the book - War in Ukraine: Conflict, Strategy, and the Return of a Fractured World