**Trigger warning**This episode comes with a warning about birth trauma and recovery. Please give it a miss if you think it might be hard to listen to.Welcome to this week's moment episode, where I speak with the incredible Illiyin Morrison. Illy is an author and mother of two. She is also a midwife, specialising in postpartum recovery and care, facilitating birth debriefs. Illy supports couples and birthing parents as well as non-birthing parents with an awareness that perinatal trauma affects all parties. I hope you enjoy this episode. Continue the ConversationCome engage with Zoe and our community over on Instagram for inspiration, tips, and sometimes a bit of humour to get us through our day - @zoeblaskeyJoin our mailing list to receive news, updates and new episode releases: https://mailchi.mp/motherkind/motherkind-mailing-list Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices