Francis Collins is the director of the NIH and former head of the Human Genome Project. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Ten Thousand: https://www.tenthousand.cc/ and use code LEX to get 15% off – Allform: https://allform.com/lex to get 20% off – SimpliSafe: https://simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera – NI: https://www.ni.com/perspectives – Magic Spoon: https://magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off EPISODE LINKS: Francis’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/NIHDirector NIH: https://www.nih.gov Human Genome Project: https://www.genome.gov/human-genome-project PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:44) – Lab-leak theory (10:51) – Gain-of-function research of viruses (23:00) – Bioterrorism (27:30) – Tony Fauci (37:41) – COVID Vaccines (43:46) – Joe Rogan (50:49) – Variants (55:31) – Rapid at home testing (59:44) – Animal testing (1:05:09) – Stepping down as director of the NIH (1:09:03) – Barack Obama (1:11:06) – Accelerating Medicines Partnership (1:21:44) – Faith (1:27:12) – Fear of death (1:30:15) – Meaning of life