On this episode of The Vonu Podcast, I release a special conversation I had with Smuggler, Max Hillebrand, & others at the Hackers Congress 58+ hour digital live event this year (2020). We began the discussion on vonu (including Smuggler’s take!), the Second Realm, shipping container TAZ’s, and much more.… The post TVP #98: Vonu & The Second Realm [Hackers Congress 2020 w/ Smuggler, Max Hillebrand, & More] appeared first on The Vonu Podcast.