Dave and Chris Ying catch up with Lisa Donovan, author of the riveting new memoir ‘Our Lady of Perpetual Hunger,’ about what it's like to lay one's entire life out for people to see. The guys marvel at Lisa's strength and her expertise at deploying swear words, while discussing the future of the restaurant business and debating whether or not world-class pastry chefs ever buy pies from a store. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices