Donald Trump and his 18 co-defendants prepare to turn themselves in to Fulton County jail. Jen Psaki joins to preview the first debate, laugh about Ron DeSantis’s ongoing struggle to appear human, and talk about how Joe Biden and Democrats should handle Trump’s courtroom campaign. And later, Jon, Dan, and Jen play a round of 2 Takes and a Fake. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.