Today the boys sit down with Lisa Eldred, a staff writer with Covenant Eyes, to chat about her new book Hobbies and Habits. Lisa is passionate about helping folks find joy and life during the walk towards sobriety. If you've felt like your struggle against the flesh has been one big dark hole, this week's episode is for you.  You can download Lisa's book for free at: https://learn.covenanteyes.com/hobbies-and-habits/ and there are many more books available from covenant eyes, including Lisa's book More Than Single at: http://www.covenanteyes.com/e-books/