Is meat killing us? Diving deep into one of the most important and polarising debates in the environmental movement, Lily tackles what we eat. Speaking to the co-founder of Linda McCartney foods Paul McCartney and founder of Impossible Foods Pat Brown,Lily explores the ethical and environmental arguments driving the boom in faux meat products. On the other side of the fence, Lily wonders if there is a version of animal agriculture that restores soil health, speaking to the author of Wilding, Isabella Tree, as well as the author and activist Alice Waters who advocates regenerative farming, local, organic and seasonal produce.You can find out more in Lily's book, Who Cares Wins, which is out now in hardback, ebook and audiobook.Waterstones: https://bit.ly/30OsUtrAudible: https://bit.ly/3jwS8UHAmazon: https://amzn.to/30PxNmjApple: https://apple.co/2XT7TvMMusic featured in the episode by Cosmo Sheldrake: Wriggle and Wake Up Calls, featuring recordings of endangered birds in Britain. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.