Rusty drops by to tell us about why privacy and robustness should be prioritized in Lightning. We discuss: LN symmetry (04:39) Do we want LN Symmetry to be symmetrical? (05:12) Listen to the conversation with instagibbs Peer to peer protocol (13:30) CTV (16:54) Pushing privacy and robustness to the front of the line (20:33) The dynamics of developing a spec with commercially associated implementations (22:19) Expecting new implementations (26:22) Privacy revisited (27:02) What broke when fee rate spiked? (31:21)