I learn so much doing this podcast, and getting the insight in to the scene in different countries and cities has been so illuminating to me.  As you probably know one of my favourite things to talk about - one of the things that fascinates me most - is the evolution of language, and concepts and how they're applied and how they're enforced within different communities. And, one of the most fascinating (and, constantly, constantly changing) concepts that keeps getting discussed is this one of butch and femme within the lesbian community.  As an outsider it seems that, at certain points in time, there has been a stringent, unwavering commitment to upholding the roles of butch and femme, with relationship roles and dynamics adhering to this heteronormative standard, and then, at other times, there seems to be a complete and utter rejection of those roles and the expectations that come with them. Why am I telling you this?  Well, this week we are headed to the small US city of Spokane, and visiting their lost lesbian bar, JS Pumps. And, to tell us all about it is TikToker and host of the podcast Lesbian Speaking, Li Isaacs, who first went there when she came out in the late 80s. We talk about her experience of being dubbed butch and what that meant for her dating life.  Do you have any memories of JS Pumps, or clubbing from your own queer scene that you want to share? Well, if you have please get in touch - I want to create the biggest online record of people's memories and stories - go to www.lostspacespodcast.com and find the section 'Share a Lost Space' and tell me what you got up to! Bonus points for embarrassing photos! You can also find me on Facebook (www.facebook.com/lostspacespod), Instagram (www.instagram.com/lostspacespod) and Twitter (www.twitter.com/lostspacespod) Find out more about Li by listening to her podcast Lesbian Speaking, or following her on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lesbianspeaking