There are a lot of challenges that come with relationships, and one of the biggest is when a relationship comes to an end. This is obviously a subject Cam and Ali aren't too familiar with, so they bring in relationship experts Simone Milasas and Brendon Watt. They tell Cam and Ali about their remarkable separation, how we are conditioned into wanting relationships when we might not need them, and the 'right' way to break up. LINKS  Follow Simone Milasas on Instagram @simonemilasas Find out more about Simone on her website Follow Brendon Watt on Instagram @accessbrendonwatt Find out more about Brendon on his website Buy the book 'Relationship - Are You Sure You Want One?' Find out more about the 'Relationships Done Different' program Follow Cam @camerondaddo Follow Ali @alidaddo Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au CREDITS  Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. Guests: Simone Milasas and Brendon Watt.Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball.  Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.  Separate Bathrooms would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the First Peoples of the land on which we work. We acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded, and recognise their enduring connections to country, knowledge and stories. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all First Nations people listening. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.