In this week's pod we discuss the encouraging yet ultimately disappointing defeat at Sale which leaves us without a Premiership win in six games and staring down the barrel of being bottom at Christmas. The returning big guns certainly fired a few shots but a lack of precision when it really mattered dogged us again. With a fired up Tigers visiting the Gate next Saturday we finally get organised with a Pete's Premiership Preview and talk to Mike Cooper of the Rolling Maul podcast to get his take on their season so far and what we might expect to see in BS3, and if you're sitting in the Dolman you know it won't be fireworks! As well as rounding up the other Premiership games at the weekend and the shambles that was England's non-display at Twickenham, we also comment on a recent tweet that explains why Downsey hasn't been seen at the Gate for a while and speculate as to whether we might be stuck with that other random dude for the rest of the season as a result! All this and more with Pete and Miles and in spirit, Tony and Lee.Let us know what you think!