Today I got the chance to catch up with a former colleague and friend Scott Safford. Scott is a licensed psychologist who works as a behavioral health consultant in Central Oregon. He works in primary care meaning that he is part of a health care team that helps manage the whole patient's wellbeing. This is a perspective that I have been anxiously waiting for in these interviews. As a mental health expert with a wealth of experience, but also a brilliant scientific thinker, I really appreciated Scott's perspective. Our conversation went longer than anticipated, but we also got onto some novel constructs that I hadn't yet considered. We discussed the ideas of comorbidity factors and the effects on mental health, some of the issues that have arisen in the health care system and how we provide care, a historical perspective, and on how the public opinions have shifted and their resistance to change.  ***DISCLAIMER*** The views expressed in this episode are solely individual and those interviewed are not speaking as representatives of their mentioned institutions and businesses. Any information shared here is public knowledge and from individual perspectives.