Susan talks with Jon Kabat-Zinn, PhD and Myla Kabat-Zinn about the opportunities for mindful presence that come with raising children. Jon is known for his work as a scientist, writer, and meditation teacher engaged in bringing mindfulness into the mainstream of medicine and society. He is the author of many books including Full Catastrophe Living and Wherever You Go, There You Are.  He and his wife Myla are the authors of Everyday Blessings: The Inner Work of Mindful Parenting. https://susanstiffelman.com/podcast-episode-kabat-zinn/