Today the guys talk with certified mentors Jay and Lori Pyatt who get raw and vulnerable in sharing their redemptive story about God pulling them back from the brink of divorce, the impact of shame and deflection in marital communication, their ongoing recovery walk, and how their journey led them to helping others avoid the pitfalls along these rocky paths. Resources mentioned on the podcast: Bonds that Make Us Free, C. Terry Warner   To learn more about Jay and Lori's work, please visit: https://thecouplecure.com/     Music on this podcast: Scars, I Am They Sirens, The Gray Havens Burden, Foy Vance