Oh you are in for a treat! This is a masterclass in cool-headed political judgement. Gisela's story is impressive enough anyway - coming to the UK from Germany, winning an unwinnable seat and holding it for 20 years and now sitting in the House of Lords - but it's the way she tells that story which will have you engrossed. You've probably never heard a politician talk about themselves the way Gisela does. This is one of the most honest interviews you'll ever hear. Order Matt's debut book 'Politically Homeless' here: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/2100000262618 Follow Matt on Twitter: @mattforde Follow Gisela on Twitter: @GiselaStuart Email the show: politicalpartypodcast@gmail.com For the latest UK Government advice on coronavirus go to: https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.