In this episode, Amir Bormand speaks with Vikas Kumar, the Head of Data, AI, and ML at CNA Insurance. Vikas discusses the importance of a holistic approach to data transformation in moving from legacy to cloud systems. He emphasizes the need to tie this journey to business value, starting with small KPIs, metrics, and OKRs, and involving the business from the beginning to get the best value from the journey. 00:00:12 Productize data with business value. 00:07:44 Data product needs stakeholder trust. 00:13:31 Build based on customer needs. 00:19:34 Crawl, walk, run philosophy. 00:21:34 Leadership style adapts to situations. 00:27:30 Always be learning. Guest: Vikas Kumar is the Head of Data, AI & ML at CNA Insurance. He is a customer-focused visionary, an accomplished executive, technologist, change agent, innovator, inquisitive, and entrepreneur with over 20+ years of building software, data products, and platforms with solid leadership/technical/product management experience. Deep knowledge in data, AI/ML, on-premises to cloud transformations, and analytics space. Intentional, methodical, and progressive track record at C-level in building and growing teams from start-up to large enterprise with ownership of overall data transformations and product strategies and delivery functions. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vksnov9/ --- Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Tech Trek, and we would appreciate it if you would take a minute to rate and review us on your favorite podcast player. Want to learn more about us? Head over at https://www.elevano.com Have questions or want to cover specific topics with our future guests? Please message me at https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand)