"It’s the people who receive Bitcoin as payment for something who decide what Bitcoin is." gsovereignty & Gigi take a walk. Listen on sovereignengineering.io Recorded in May 2026. They explore what it would take to separate business from the state, why a Bitcoin economy still depends on fiat imports, and how Nostrocket might route human energy into Bitcoin-native production. Along the way they get into circular economies, merchant adoption, stablecoins, organizational design, application-specific agent harnesses, and the trade-offs behind merit-based equity, minimal governance, and forkable ventures. In this dialogue: why merchant adoption alone does not create a sovereign Bitcoin economy why registered businesses remain exposed to state control how Nostrocket reframes proof of work as human coordination around useful production what minimal governance, merit issuance, and forkability might look like in a Bitcoin-native venture why open source projects, DAOs, and Bitcoin itself keep surfacing the same authority trade-offs why application-specific agent harnesses, formal specs, and peer review may be the right proving ground for these ideas People mentioned: Saifedean Ammous Michael Saylor Frederic Laloux Vitor Pamplona Pablo Projects & tech mentioned: Bitcoin Nostr Nostrocket Bitcoin Jungle Soap Miner isolabellart The Leathermint Reinventing Organizations Holacracy Amethyst Bitcoin Core Claude stablecoins BlackRock Recorded at 951,874.