Many of the Church Fathers talk about the notion that angels have what we call "subtle bodies", that angels are not completely incorporeal (God only is completely incorporeal) but their bodies are also not circumscribed in flesh, but in mind.In this formerly patron video, I explain what the Church means with this description of angels and how it's something we can relate to in the general human experience.Original YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/MTuDl7o-1bEThe discussion with Rafe Kelley I mention near the end: https://youtu.be/06Osa0EmJVc----Timestamps:0:00 // Introduction0:43 // Intro music1:08 // What are subtle bodies?2:13 // St. John Damacene6:32 // Perelandra by C.S. Lewis9:19 // Our subtle bodies and the hierarchy of angels14:06 // True analogies15:23 // Jesus prayer18:13 // Continue: True analogies20:17 // Examples---💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageauOur website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.