The A Better HR Business podcast looks at how consultants and tech firms in the broad Human Resources field grow their business; and how they help employers get the best out of their people. In this week's episode of A Better HR Business, we are kindly joined by Suzanne Lucas, better known as the Evil HR Lady  :) In a wide-ranging discussion, Suzanne and I talked about: ✅ How Suzanne became an HR consultant (an American based in Switzerland serving mostly US-based clients). ✅ Leadership training via lessons from improv comedy - "Improv Your HR". ✅ The challenge of shifting the clients' mindsets to perceive the value of advisory services. ✅ How Suzanne gained exposure and an audience (first via blogging, then writing articles for news media, then conference speaking). ✅ Suzaane's amazing "Evil HR Lady Facebook Group". ✅ And much more. Thanks, Suzanne! For show notes and to see details of our previous guests, check out the podcast page here: www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Podcast WANT MORE CUSTOMERS OR CLIENTS? Want more clients for your HR-related consultancy or HR Tech business? Check out the HR Business Accelerator: www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Services. WANT TO START AN HR BUSINESS? Want to launch your own consulting business in the broad Human Resources sector? Check out: www.GetMoreHRClients.com/Start for resources.