American comedian Dave Smith and British cultural critic Douglas Murray recently joined Joe Rogan for a much-discussed episode of The Joe Rogan Experience. Murray confronted Rogan and criticised him to his face for platforming non-experts to discuss historical and political subject matter. Murray also claimed criticizing such figures was like “punching jelly” because they would fall back on an “I’m no expert” or “I’m just a comedian” defense. Yet when questioned about just who should be allowed to speak on which topics, Murray (who, by the way, has very limited credentials of "expertise") himself turned to jelly, arguing that he hadn’t said that only experts should be “platformed,” at which point he pivoted to arguing with Smith for referring to the United States as “we” when discussing the myriad wars the US has fought around the globe. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the series of semantic arguments Murray brought up throughout the show rather than debate the substance of even the subjects he brought up. Plus segments on the recent SCOTUS ruling that the Trump administration must facilitate the return of a Maryland man wrongfully deported to an El Salvador prison and RFK Jr.’s prediction that we will know the real cause of the autism epidemic by September. Also featuring Mike MacRae and Stef Zamorano. And a phone call from JD Vance!