In HRchat  274, we talk about learning leadership lessons through adversity and how to tap into your “firm yet kind” side. Bill's guest this time is Laila Tarraf, Chief People Officer at Allbirds, a global footwear and apparel brand on a mission to show the fashion industry why it needs to focus less on flash and more on thoughtfulness.In addition to being CPO at AllBirds, Leila is a trusted advisor to entrepreneurs and investors, a regular guest lecturer at Berkeley Law School, and most recently, author of the April 2021 book Strong Like Water: How I Found the Courage to Lead with Love in Business and in Life. In her book, Laila shares her journey of awakening and transformation as a mother, a woman, and a leader.Support the showFeature Your Brand on the HRchat PodcastThe HRchat show has had 100,000s of downloads and is frequently listed as one of the most popular global podcasts for HR pros, Talent execs and leaders. It is ranked in the top ten in the world based on traffic, social media followers, domain authority & freshness. The podcast is also ranked as the Best Canadian HR Podcast by FeedSpot and one of the top 10% most popular shows by Listen Score. Want to share the story of how your business is helping to shape the world of work? We offer sponsored episodes, audio adverts, email campaigns, and a host of other options. Check out packages here. Follow us on LinkedIn Subscribe to our newsletter Check out our in-person events