In this episode, Amir sits down with Zach Barney, Co-founder and CEO of Mobly, the system of record for event marketers. Zach’s story takes us from his early ambitions of joining the NSA to a career-altering injury, a serendipitous fall into sales, and eventually the founding of Mobly. This episode explores not only the career pivots that led Zach to entrepreneurship, but also the mental, financial, and strategic challenges he faced along the way.If you’ve ever thought about switching paths or launching your own thing — especially from a non-technical background — Zach’s journey is proof that drive, vision, and grit can get you there.🔑 Key Takeaways:Pivot Points Can Define You: A severe knee injury and life changes redirected Zach’s path from NSA hopeful to tech founder.Sales is Entrepreneurship Training: Zach views sales as the most entrepreneurial job short of being a founder — giving him the skills and mindset for startup life.Solve Real Problems: Mobly was born from Zach’s own pain points in the field — and customer validation made the case.Execution Over Everything: Despite the harsh fundraising climate, Mobly thrived by focusing on product and market fit.Founding Doesn’t Require Code: Zach’s non-technical background didn’t stop him — and his story encourages others in the same boat.⏱️ Timestamped Highlights:00:20 – Intro to Zach Barney and Mobly — from spreadsheets to sales tech for event marketers.01:50 – Zach’s drive to control his financial destiny, inspired by his upbringing as the oldest of 8.03:23 – The “spy-to-startup” journey: NSA offer, Russian fluency, and a career-altering knee injury.06:15 – How a devastating injury forced Zach to pivot, finding a sales job that set the foundation for his future.08:29 – Falling in love with sales: the accidental career path that turned into a calling.10:20 – Constant learning: how podcasts, books, and early-stage exposure prepared him for founding.12:07 – Making the leap: risks, fears, and financial tradeoffs of starting Mobly with five kids to support.14:07 – Co-founder chemistry: 30 years of friendship becomes a business partnership16:20 – Building the MVP without a CTO and the power of scrappy execution.17:48 – Navigating the economic downturn and fundraising panic attacks in a tough VC market.20:12 – Why Zach is bullish on execution over economic prediction — and how Mobly is thriving.💬 Quote to Share:“Sales is the most entrepreneurial job you can have without being an entrepreneur.” – Zach Barney🔗 Connect with Zach:📱 Find him on LinkedIn (just don’t automate your message — he can sniff it out instantly!)