Some of what Swarna talks about: Understanding DevOps maturity prior to starting a new position Defining separation between backend and DevOps teams DevOps maturity impacts the skills you need to hire for Meet: Swarna Mani is the Head of DevOps at Datavant. She formed and led the DevSecOps team at Guidewire. Swarna started her career in telecom software as a developer. Her passion is problem-solving. Her experience as a developer helps her to enable DevOps and approach it with a mindset to solve Ops issues using software. Swarna holds a BS in Electronics and Communications from the University of Madras, MS in Software Systems from BITS, Pilani, and a Diploma in Management Essentials from Harvard Business School. If you have any questions for Swarna, please feel free to reach out via: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swarna-mani-a815402/ I hope you enjoyed the episode, the best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you would like me to cover certain topics with future guests.