Pasquale "Pat" Russo, is our guest. Pat is a retired N.Y.P.D. Sergeant. During his career he became heavily involved in the N.Y.P.D. Boxing Program for at risk youth. He was also part of the first group of Community Patrol Officer Program (C-POP) in NY. Pat talks about how he got involved in the N.Y.P.D. Boxing program that was designed to help at risk youth. In addition to talking about the importance of these programs, Pat also discusses how the nationwide trend of defunding police can effect these important special programs.

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