For episode 56 we are joined by the incredibly talented Art Director and Illustrator Flavia Amaral, in our first anti-podcast for Series 2. Flavia shares starting out in the industry. Working hard, developing her skills to become an Art Director but also returning to her creative beginnings, drawing, and how vital it was she nurtured this too. She talks about her love / hate relationship with being outside her comfort zone and completely surprised me, reeling off a list of unpredictable challenges she has done  to ensure she pushes herself. One of those being 'clown lessons' - yikes! Her illustrative work is absolutely stunning and what a treat to have her share and design a bespoke element for our catch up. You can locate the anti-podcast on our Insta channel @greaterthaneleven - it will be in our Story and then saved to our Highlights. If you would like to find out more about Flavia and her work you can do so here or search for her on Insta @flamaral. 🛎 We need your help pushing for change: a more diverse creative industry within years, not decades. Please share the podcast with others who you think may be interested or benefit! 💓Leave us a review/rating and we will love you forever: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/greater-than-11/id1435811372  Be sure to follow us: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greaterthaneleven/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/Gre4terThan11 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/greater-than-eleven/