In this episode of 1050 Bascom, we talk to 2016 Badger grad, Phoenix Rice-Johnson. Phoenix, who majored in PS and International Relations, was awarded both the prestigious Marshall and Truman Scholarships, and received her MA in Public Policy at King’s College in London. Phoenix, who is interning this summer at the Office of the Public Defender in San Diego, will start her second year at Yale Law School in the fall. Phoenix offered her insights on applying to top law schools and prominent scholarships. We appreciated Phoenix’s down-to-earth honesty and insights into why she thinks top law schools like Yale are increasingly looking for students with nontraditional pathways as well as those who have taken gap years to grow personally and professionally and reflect on their motivation for pursuing post-graduate education. We thoroughly enjoyed our conversation with Phoenix, and hope you will too. Listen here.